Clarification of rules (Cemeteries) - with HiG - 15 11 2022

[Meepledrone]

I sent another questions about Exp. 11 - Ghosts, Castles & Cemeteries to Johannes Natterer (HiG) and we got the following clarifications.

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[Meepledrone]

The rules for cemeteries in Exp. 11 - Ghosts, Castles & Cemeteries read:

German: "2a. Geister einsetzen
In der Erweiterung setzt du beim Friedhof keine zusätzlichen Geister ein."

English: "2a. Place ghosts
Don’t add ghosts to the cemetery when playing the expansion."

...while the rules for castles read:

German: "2a. Geister einsetzen
Geister spielen auch beim Schloss nur beim Anlegen des Nebels eine Rolle (siehe S. 2)."

English: "2a. Place ghosts
Ghosts only get added depending on mist placement (see page 2) when placing a castle."

We have the following questions:

[Q1.a] Do the rules mean that you cannot add ghosts to a meeple placed on a cemetery (Friedhof) unlike a meeple placed on a castle (Schloss)?

[A1.a] Both statements are referring to the placement or function those features had before in the spin-off.
In the expansion, you add ghosts to meeples, not to features.
Therefore it is possible to add ghosts to a meeple placed in a castle or cemetery.

You may add ghosts to cemetery keepers (ot in castles) if they are not guard meeples.


[Q1.b] Would this mean that a player will score negative points for a completed cemetery with a meeple with ghosts (in addition to receiving one extra guard meeple, if applicable)?

[A1.b] Yes.

This then means you can score negative points for a completed cemetery if the cemetery keeper has one or two ghosts added to it.

When the cemetery is completed surrounded, the cemetery will grant a new guard meeple, if possible, and the player will score negative points for the ghosts added to thee cemetery keeper, if any.


[Q1.c] Would this mean that a player will not score negative points for ghosts added to a meeple on an uncompleted cemetery after the game?

[A1.c] You do not lose any victory points during final scoring with ghosts added to meeples on cemeteries. Those meeples do not get scored.

At the end of the game, uncompleted cemeteries are not scored, so players do not receive negative points for any ghosts added to their cemetery keepers.