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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #135 on: December 31, 2020, 01:51:34 AM »
Question #15: The Yellow Messenger landed on a dark space. As a result, Yellow receives the message shown by
The Grinch. How many points does Yellow score for this message when applied to this feature?





Answer #15: after receiving this message, Yellow will have to score the city as if after the game and remove the meeple.

Yellow will the score 5 points for the city:
- The city itself is worth 0 points ( 5 tiles x 0 points for the cathedral)
- The Mage bonus is 5 points ( 5 tiles x 1 point per tile for the mage )

Yellow will also receive 3 points for the fairy next to their meeple.

Notes:
* The German castle bonus is not applicable during final scoring.
* The Mage bonus is applied during the game and after the game for incomplete features, even if the incomplete feature scores 0 points due to an inn or a cathedral, like in this case. The Mage bonus is applied after the inn or cathedral.

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 8 points in two scoring events (5 points for the city with the mage + 3 points for the fairy)

Final note: Yellow could also renounce to score any points for the feature and receive 2 points for the message instead. However this case is not the answer expected for this question.
« Last Edit: December 31, 2020, 05:34:23 AM by Meepledrone »
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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #136 on: December 31, 2020, 02:31:19 AM »
Question #16: The Snowman places this abbey on behalf of Blue. How many points does each player score?

PS: There are no large meeples in this question.





Answer #16: They abbey placed is incomplete so Blue scores no points for it.

The completed city has 5 tiles and 2 coats of arms. Note that the bridge on the Spiel'19 tile connects both city segments. Additionally, Yellow has the majority in the city thanks to their mayor and the two coats of arms. So only Yellow scores for the city, which is worth 14 points ( (5 tiles + 2 coats of arms) x 2 points = 7 x 2 = 14 points)

Bottomline:
- Blue scores 0 points, since the abbey is not complete.
- Red scores 0 points.
- Yellow scores 14 points.
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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #137 on: December 31, 2020, 03:03:43 AM »
Question #17: Santa Claus places this tile. How will manage Red and Yellow to be robbed the least points possible? How many points will each player score?





Answer #17: The tile placed completes:
- A city occupied by Red worth 6 points (3 tiles x 2 points)
- A road occupied by Yellow worth 3 points (3 tiles x 1 point)
- A castle occupied by Red worth 3 points, as the scoring is triggered by the road.

So Red has to score the city and the castle and Yellow has to score the road. The field is not scored so Blue receives no points for it.

As a result of the configuration on the scoreboard...
- The Red Robber will steal 0 points from Yellow if Yellow scores with their messenger.
- The Yellow Robber may steal points from any of the Red Scoring Figures. So Red has to score both features with the same scoring figure starting by the one with the least points to minimize the points stolen by Yellow Robber.

Note that scoring with robbers has to be planned ahead, not per feature scored. If Red decides to score each feature with a different scoring figure, Yellow Robber would be able to choose which one to steal from, since it would have visibility over the first scoring of each scoring figure used. So the key point here is to move only one of the scoring figures to allow the Yellow Robber no choice but the least evil for Red.

So the scoring sequence would be as follows, assuming Red decides to score with their scoring meeple only (it would have the same effect if Red would decide to use their messenger for both scorings instead):
1. First features scored:
  - Red scores 3 points for the castle with the Red Scoring Meeple
  - Yellow scores 3 points for the road with the Yellow Messenger.
2. If possible, robbers steal points and they are removed:
  - The Yellow Robber steals 2 points from the Red Scoring Meeple (3 points / 2 rounded up)  and is then removed from the scoreboard and returned to its owner.
  - The Red Robber cannot steal from Yellow so it stays on the scoreboard.
3. The remaining feature is scored.
  - Red scores 6 points for the city with the Red Scoring Meeple so no more points can be stolen.
 
Notes: If it was Yellow's turn and the 2 points stolen by the Yellow Robber were scored by the Yellow Scoring Meeple, Yellow would receive a message. That would mean a separate scoring or 2 points.
 
Bottomline:
- Red scores 9 points in two separate scoring events (3 points for the castle + 6 points for the city)
- Yellow scores 5 points in two separate scoring events (3 points for the road + 2 stolen points)

Final note: When playing with robbers, the order followed to evaluate each feature may not match the order used to score them. In this case, the castle is evaluated last (due to its dependencies) but it has to be scored first to minimize the points stolen from Red.
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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #138 on: December 31, 2020, 03:11:11 AM »
Question #18: Danisthirty places a tile that completes two road networks. How many points does each player receive?





Answer #18: The tile completes two road networks with several tunnels.

The road network with blue tunnels is occupied by Red. The road has 5 tiles so Red scores 5 points (5 tiles x 1 point per tile).

The road network with yellow and red tunnels is occupied by Yellow and Blue. Each of them score 9 points (9 tiles x 1 point per tile).

Note: Don't be fooled by tiles that participate more than once in a road because they contain a printed road segment and a bridge, or two printed road segments belonging to the same road network (roads looping back, road connected by tunnels,...). You only count each tile once no matter if it contributes more than once in a road network.

Bottomline:
- Blue scores 9 points
- Red scores 5 points
- Yellow scores 9 points
« Last Edit: December 31, 2020, 05:35:36 AM by Meepledrone »

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #139 on: December 31, 2020, 04:45:41 AM »
Question #17:
[...]
- The Yellow Robber may steal points from any of the Red Scoring Figures. So Red has to score both features with the same scoring figure starting by the one with the least points to minimize the points stolen by Yellow Robber.
[...]

Aaw, I thought the two robber and meeple lines on the scoreboard were on two separate spaces (one on 3, one on 4)  :'(
Stupid mistake, I should have looked more carefully ! :o

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #140 on: December 31, 2020, 05:03:27 AM »
That's not a big deal... You're still first... But you surely give us some points !  >:D

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #141 on: December 31, 2020, 05:04:32 AM »
 :( :( I had the same mistake,eheh

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #142 on: December 31, 2020, 08:17:37 AM »
My case with Q17 was worst, I got the right score (Same as Meepledrone reports) but apparently something in my explanation makes my answer invalid :( that mini expansion is tricky  :)

happy to see how it goes in the following questions hehe
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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #143 on: December 31, 2020, 09:35:31 AM »
Question #19: The Grinch completes this road. How many points does Red scores if the Fairy was placed next to the meeple this turn? The Fairy was by the scoreboard previously.





Answer #19: The fairy is placed during the current turn, so Red scores no fairy bonus at the beginning of this turn.

The completed 5-tile road will be affected by the following elements:
- An inn
- A German cathedral
- A German castle
- The Witch

Red will score for the road 11 points, according to the following steps:
1. The road core feature scoring is 15 points (5 tiles x (1 point per tile + 1 point for the German cathedral + 1 point for the inn) = 5 x 3 = 15 points)
2. The Witch penalty is applied on top of these points, so the road is worth 8 points at this point (15 points / 2 for the Witch = 8 points after rounding up)
3. The German castle bonus is applied after the Witch, so the road is worth 11 points (8 for the road + 3 points for the German castle)

Note that the German castle bonus is scored only once even if two legs of the road end at the same German castle.

Additionally, Red will score 3 points for the fairy next to their meeple.

Bottomline:
- Red scores 14 points in two separate scoring events (11 points for the road + 3 points for the fairy).

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #144 on: December 31, 2020, 09:38:25 AM »
Question #20: Gingerbread Man and Dorothy are also intrigued with this monastery just completed on the border. How many points does Red score for it?





Answer #20: The monastery on the border is completed although it is not fully surrounded by tiles. Red will score 7 points for it.

Note that you have to consider normal tiles and printed tiles but printed semicircular segments on the border are not considered. In this case there are 6 normal tiles and 1 printed tile featuring "München".

Bottomline:
- Red scores 7 points for the monastery.

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #145 on: December 31, 2020, 09:45:49 AM »
Question #21: The Snowman places a tile that completes the road occupied by Yellow. How many points does each player score?





Answer #21: As soon as the tile is placed, the road is completed. Since the road is connected to the Solovei Razboynik tile, the Yellow Meeple is trapped right away by Solovei Razboynik and moves to that tile. As a result, the completed road is left unoccupied. As a result, Yellow scores no points for the road.

However, the completion of the road triggers the scoring of the nearby castle occupied by Red. The player will score the same points the road is worth, that is, 7 points (7 tiles x 1 point per tile).

Notes:
* The road segment on the Solovei Razboynik tile passes behind the tree and is not interrupted.
* The Bogatyr tile features a stone that delimits two separate road segments:
   - One with three connected legs, which is part of the road being scored in this case
   - Another separate road segment, connected to the monastery in this case, which is not part of the road being scored

Bottomline:
- Red scores 7 points.
- Yellow scores no points

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #146 on: December 31, 2020, 10:16:32 AM »
Question #22: The game ended. How many points does each player score in this scenario Santa Claus has put together for you?





Answer #22: In this after the game scenario we have two features:
* A German monastery occupied by a Yellow Meeple placed as an abbot
* An incomplete German castle occupied by Blue

There are two possible outcomes depending of the ruleset applied to Halflings and German castle tiles.

C1 rules for Halflings and German castles

In this case, we apply the C1 rules as clarified in 10/2015:
* Two Halfling tiles in the same square are counted as 2 individual tiles.
* German castles are considered as 1 tile.

Yellow will score 7 points (1 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 2):
* 1 point for the monastery tile
* 2 points for the Halfling tiles on the column above it
* 1 point for the tile on the column below it
* 1 point for the tile on the row to the left
* 2 points for the tiles on the row to the right, the Halfling tile and the German castle tile.

Blue will score 7 points (2 points for the German castle tile + 1 point per tile adjacent to it). Note that Halflings are counted individually.

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 7 points.
- Blue scores 7 points.



C2 rules for Halflings and German castles

In this case, we apply the C2 rules as clarified in 1/2021:
* Two Halfling tiles in the same square are counted as 1 tile (one occupied space).
* German castles are considered as two occupied spaces.

Yellow will score 7 points (1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 3):
* 1 point for the monastery tile
* 1 point for the Halfling tiles on the column above it, counted as 1 tile
* 1 point for the tile on the column below it
* 1 point for the tile on the row to the left
* 3 points for the tiles on the row to the right, 1 for the Halfling tile and 2 for the German castle tile (2 spaces).

Blue will score 6 points (2 points for the German castle tile + 1 point per occupied space adjacent to it). Note that it does not matter if the space is occupied by a regular square tile, one Halfling tile or two Halfling tiles.

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 7 points.
- Blue scores 6 points.



EDIT: Updated to consider the latest C2 rules for Halflings.
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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #147 on: December 31, 2020, 10:26:32 AM »
Question #23: Danisthirty put together this final-scoring scenario for you. How many points does each player score?





Answer #23: In this scenario there are two fields to be scored: one occupied by Red and the other has the Yellow Barn
 
Red will score the field with the besieged city, taking into account the pig. Red will score 8 points (1 city x ( (3 points for the city + 1 point for the pig) x 2 for the siege) = 1 x (4 x 2) = 8 points)

Yellow will score the barn taking into consideration the 2-tile city and the same city as Red. Note the city bridge on the Spiel'20 tile touches the field with the Yellow Barn.

Yellow will then score 12 points:
- The 2-tile city is worth 4 points for the barn
- The besieged city is worth 8 points (4 points x 2 for the siege)

Bottomline:
- Red scores 8 points
- Yellow scores 12 points

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #148 on: December 31, 2020, 11:39:30 AM »
Question #24: The Wizard of Carcassonne places the tile with the Yellow Wagon, and asks the following questions:
1) How many points does each player score? The Wizard of Carcassonne is only interested in the highest score for each player. [1-5 points]
2) What feature(s) did Red complete to get the Orange Teacher? [1 point]
3) What is the least points Red can receive from the Orange Teacher? [1 point]
4) After scoring, what happens to the Blue Meeple and the fairy? [1 point]
5) After scoring, what possible features can the Yellow Wagon be moved to? [1 point]
6) After scoring, which player gets the Orange Teacher? [1 point]





Answer #24: This scenario includes two official PnP Expansions: The City Gates and the Fortune Teller.
* The Red Phantom occupies the road just completed leading to the school.
* The Yellow Wagon occupies the 1-tile city completing the road leading to the school and the fortune teller tent.
* The Blue Meeple occupies the fortune teller tent just completed

The answer to the questions is as follows:

1) Points scored per player

Yellow will score 4 points for the 1-tile city. This is a special case from The City Gates. Yellow will also score 3 points for completing the fortune teller tent.

Blue will score 0 points for the fortune teller tent itself. However, Blue will receive the 3 points for the fairy next to the fortune teller.

Note: Remember that it is Yellow's turn so Blue does not get the 1-point bonus for the fairy.

Red will score 5 points for the road (5 tiles x 1 point per tile).

Additionally, Red is in possession of the Teacher. Red may choose which completed feature to receive points from:
- The completed fortune teller tent worth 0 points (note that points for the completion of the tent or the fairy bonus are not considered part of the feature scoring)
- The completed city worth 4 points
- The completed road worth 5 points
Red will then score 5 points for the Teacher, in order to get the most points as requested.

Bottomline:
- Blue will score 3 points for the fairy.
- Red will score 10 points in two separate scoring events (5 points for the road + 5 points for the teacher).
- Yellow will score 7 points in two separate scoring events (4 points for the city + 3 points for completing the fortune teller tent).

2) Feature(s) completed by Red to get the Teacher

Red completed the first road to the right of the school with a City Gates tile. At that point this tile could be the first tile placed for that city or the second, completing it.

3) Least points the Teacher can score in this scenario

The Teacher may decide to score 0 points for the fortune teller tent.

4) What happens to the Blue Meeple and the fairy

The Blue Meeple on the fortune teller tent will be removed and returned to its owner's supply, since it is completed. The fairy stays on the tile.

As an additional note, Blue will not be able to draw an additional tile in next draws without this fortune teller.

5) Where the Yellow Wagon can move

The Yellow Wagon will be returned to its owner's supply in C1 and C2:
- In C1: the wagon cannot drive through the school to an unoccupied incomplete road. The school is a special area that can only be occupied by a Teacher.
- In C2: there is no incomplete unoccupied feature on any adjacent tile. 

6) Who gets the Orange Teacher

After scoring, Yellow will get the Teacher for completing a road leading to the school.

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
« Reply #149 on: December 31, 2020, 11:42:05 AM »
- Meeple Council: Congratulations, corinthiens13!!! You are the winner of the Advent Calendar Quiz MMXX.  ;D
- Meepledrone: I would also like to thank all the participants, who worked so hard answering all the questions.
- Meepledrone: I hope that everyone enjoyed it as much as I did running it.   ;D
- The Grinch: (to Meepledrone) What's up with you? You love the spotlight, huh?  >:(
- Meepledrone: Er... I was just...
- The Grinch: Will you shut up for once and for all?
- Santa Claus: Come on, he's been working really hard!
- The Grinch: Have any proof?
- Meepledrone: I can show you...
- The Grinch: You show me what? Shut up and do your thing... quick!
- Meepledrone: I just wanted to remind the winner to send me his address by PM so I can send him the prize...
- The Grinch: And?
- Danisthirty: (whispering something)  :-[
- The Grinch: And?
- Fir Tree: (a branch bends in the winds)  :o
- Snowman: (muttering) ...participants...
- Meepledrone: Ah yes... and also those participants who want a little something... please send me your address by PM too.
- The Grinch: Shoo, shoo! Go back to your box! If you send them something other than a toothpick, I will...
- Wicked Witch of the West: (shouting from the distant) Grinchieeee? Don't forget your bad deed of the day!!!
- The Grinch: (squealing back) YEEEESS, MOTHER!!! I'M ON IT!!!
- Wicked Witch of the West: Otherwise you will...
- The Grinch: ...have to smile for 10 seconds! (to himself) Yes, I know  :(
- Santa Claus: (to the Grinch) Go to your mother and tell her the bad news... We have a winner!  ;)
- Meepledrone: May I... go?
- The Grinch: Why are you still here? You have some stuff to mail >:(
- Easter Bunny: Will you shut up?
- The Grinch: (leaving) I'm just warming up for 2021...
- Danisthirty: (thinking out loud) I'm so happy the issue with the tile was not my fault...
- Fir Tree: (making a fart) >:D
- Danisthirty: Are you implying something?  :o
- Easter Bunny: (whispering) Well... This is a never ending story... ???
- Easter Bunny: Happy 2021 to everybody!
« Last Edit: December 31, 2021, 01:04:30 AM by Meepledrone »


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