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Maximizing Use of the Abbot (Carcassonne II)

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Sinscerly:

--- Quote from: t2k on January 08, 2020, 03:30:39 PM ---The Abbott is great for its ability to be returned to the meeple-group you have an still score points.  In the game "Carcassonne: The Discovery" by Leo Colovini, he used the rule that a follower could be removed before a structure was yet completed, and that predates the CarII by some years.  I am not sure if you could score partially also - will check on that and update this post with what I find.

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Yes, one of the things you may do in the Wood phase is to:

* Put one Meeple on a tile
* Return one to your supply and you will get points for that
* Do nothing.Although, I learned Carcassonne through Carcassonne the Discovery. I cannot even remember (I was 10 / 12 at that age, so for me a decade ago) that I even knew at that time that I was allowed to pull a meeple back.

Carcassonne The Discovery
Scoring unfinished:

* Grass: 1 point for each tile
* Mountains: 1 point for each mountain city and 1 point for each connected grassland city
* Sea: 1 point for each harborcity.Scoring when finished:

* Grass: 2 point for each tile.(if 2 tiles big, score 1 point each)
* Mountains: 2 point for each mountain city and 21 point for each connected grassland city.(if 2 tiles big, score 1 point each)
* Sea: 1 point for each sea tile and 1 point for each harbor city.(if 2 tiles big, score 1 point for each harbor city)

Sinscerly:

--- Quote from: obervet on January 16, 2015, 09:34:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: CarcinFool on January 13, 2015, 07:04:39 PM ---The Abbot and the Portal

When playing with Princess and the Dragon, a magic portal can enable you to send the Abbot through to a garden/cloister (NOTE: I didn’t not see this in the CAR, so this is unconfirmed, but the rules and CAR indicate that he is a follower). There are almost always uncompleted cloisters/gardens on the board, so sending the Abbot on an inter-dimentional ride through the portal is a great way to boost your point total. And since the Abbot doesn’t have to stay on the board until the cloister/garden is completely surrounded you can grab him back shortly and take the points.

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I also believe this is legal. The C II rules don't refer to "followers" as such, just meeples and abbots. Thus, they don't really address the question of whether the abbot is truly a follower per the older versions of the rules. However, since it is a point-scoring entity which is analogous to the mayor (i.e. a follower with certain restrictions), I would also treat it as a follower. (I know, the barn is a point-scoring entity that isn't a follower, but it's kind of an odd duck anyway.)

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Yes, it is true. In the Dutch version of the BB6 it is a follower, there is a diagram on the back of the rulesheet. Thus it can go through a portal, be a flyer and so on.

Also in the WICA: http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Princess_and_The_Dragon#Other_expansions. We addressed this under The Princess and the Dragon expansion. That a abt is allowed to go through a portal.

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