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Will the C2 rules for Halflings consider the clarifications provided by Georg Wild in 10/2015?

Yes, HiG will solve all the issues
6 (27.3%)
No, a layout upgrade of the C1 printed rules is good enough
5 (22.7%)
No clue, HiG will surprise us once more
11 (50%)

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Author Topic: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)  (Read 16759 times)

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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #45 on: April 11, 2020, 11:28:22 PM »
Regarding to the crop circles:

Each must decide between option a and b.
A) they can place a meeple from their supply to an already placed meeple and nowhere else
Or
B) remove a meeple

So from my point of view the translation make Sense, but I’m not a native speaker and understand sometimes not the nuances

It is a tiny change but what HiG did in the English rules was this:

Each must decide between option a and b.
A) they can place a meeple from their supply to an already placed meeple and nowhere else
Or
B) remove a meeple

So the can (or may) par of option A) was removed so they told players: you must add a meeple or remove a meeple. This was in contrast with the German rules: you may add meeple or you must remove a meeple.
That doesn't seem to make sense to me.

The point of the expansion was surely that it was a little bitter sweet. Sometimes you could win a feature with an extra meeple and sometimes you could rescue a meeple from a dead feature BUT if these positives were not possible you would have to waste a meeple by adding one to a feature pointlessly or remove a meeple from a good feature you were likely to score.  Therefore the rule only really make sense if it is "must A or B."

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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #46 on: April 12, 2020, 03:29:49 AM »
You can see here that the rules were like that in C1 (you may place a meeple or you must remove a meeple):

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Crop_Circles_(1st_edition)#Playing_the_Game

The wording comes from the CAR, that matches the German rules for C1 and C2 as well.

Don't ask me why but the C2 rules in English failed to reflect the original meaning correctly:
* The Big Box 6 rules in English by ZMG mistranslated the wording and changed the meaning to must/must.
* The C2 Halflings rules by HiG mistranslated the wording again and changed the meaning to must/must

So in the original rules you must choose between two options:
* A) Placing a meeple optionally:
   - Each player places a meeple...
   - or does nothing
* B) Removing a meeple mandatorily:
   - Each player must remove a meeple

This means option A) allows each player to decide what to do: if placing a meeple does not help or it is preferable to save the meeple for later, it is possible to skip the action. Option B) is mandatory and everyone is forced to do it unless the player has no meeples on the feature type required by the action.
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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #47 on: April 17, 2020, 03:02:33 AM »
I ordered this a while ago, but unfortunately I just received this email from cundco:

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we are very sorry, but the current information from the mail service says, that due to the Corona crises, no goods will be delivered in the moment to Australia as usual.

The dispatch of goods and parcel shipments to Australia will no longer be offered until further notice

We have tried to send your order #[removed], but it returned to us today. So we will keep your order until the situation will go back to normal. So sorry for that. Please inform you by web about that situation. Thank you!

Still, if this is the worst that happens I'm doing pretty well I guess...

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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #48 on: April 17, 2020, 05:28:20 AM »
I ordered this a while ago, but unfortunately I just received this email from cundco:

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we are very sorry, but the current information from the mail service says, that due to the Corona crises, no goods will be delivered in the moment to Australia as usual.

The dispatch of goods and parcel shipments to Australia will no longer be offered until further notice

We have tried to send your order #[removed], but it returned to us today. So we will keep your order until the situation will go back to normal. So sorry for that. Please inform you by web about that situation. Thank you!

Still, if this is the worst that happens I'm doing pretty well I guess...

At least they hold it for you, hope they don't forget it :)
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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #49 on: April 17, 2020, 05:46:03 AM »
Pheeew! I got my order with C2 Halflings last Monday... However HiG got confused and left some items out by mistake. I wrote to them the same day, sending even pictures, but no answer yet.  :-[

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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #50 on: April 17, 2020, 07:48:57 AM »
I wrote to them the same day, sending even pictures, but no answer yet.  :-[

They've been pretty good about sending replacements for damaged items on a few occasions for me; I'm sure they'll fix the error!  :black1-meeple:
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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #51 on: April 17, 2020, 03:41:20 PM »
Finally I got a reply this evening so I sent some clarifications back. It seems we are closer to solve the pending issues.  ;D

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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #52 on: April 18, 2020, 02:42:33 AM »
Can I use a mexican sauce with my halflings?? Do you think that HiG will solve this issue? They seem so delicious.... I want to eat halflings!!  ;D  :))
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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #53 on: April 18, 2020, 07:51:32 AM »
Be careful, the Grinch taught us tiles can be delicious!  ;)


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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #54 on: April 18, 2020, 10:21:34 AM »
Be careful, the Grinch taught us tiles can be delicious!  ;)
Hahahahaha this picture is sooo funny hahahaha Missing mexican sauce on that dorito... I mean... Halfling!! emoji code28]emoji code23]

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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #55 on: October 21, 2020, 12:48:06 AM »
Sorry for the gravedig but am I the only one bothered that in halfling II, it is not possible to play with all 12 tiles and have 6 perfect squares during the game ?

There are 3 diagonal sides with Cities and 3 with fields.

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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2020, 01:00:06 AM »
Why need to create nice 6 squeres?
This expansion is for:
1. helping player to escape from trap made by another players
2. solve issue that required tile was placed by another player elsewhere
3. made a trap for another player

Nice squares are not requested.

Specially for Halflings II, there is only one Hill, only one Sheep and only one Corn Place. None if perfect, and it's about luck in play ;-)
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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2020, 02:39:43 AM »

Why need to create nice 6 squeres? BECCAUSE IT LOOKS NICE ;)

This expansion is for:
1. BURN DOWN ALL CARCASSONNE EXISTING RULES

Nice squares are not requested. But a triangle hole is even uglier than a square one !

Specially for Halflings II, there is only one Hill, only one Sheep and only one Corn Place. None if perfect, and it's about luck in play ;-)

I corrected your post ;)

And I have to admit, the rule of picking just 2 or 3 per player creates awful looking maps

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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #58 on: October 21, 2020, 02:52:41 AM »
Ok. Understand.
In mega carcassonne usually all gaps can be filled. Because exapsions brings tiles which solves spesial situations on board.

Anyway, for me, any expansion which change rules is welcome. I don't like expansions without changes of rules.

Expansion without rules are for me just "yet another tiles".

Good selection and specialy random selection of expansions brings always new game and new experience from this amazing game.

And when you thing, OK. I'm Boss in Carcassonne, then become different selection of expansions and your strategy is totaly ruined ;-)

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Re: Carcassonne - Halb So Wild (neue Edition)
« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2020, 06:56:38 AM »
Why do Halflings always provoke such mood swings?  >:D

There are enough tiles to create chaos but too few to solve all issues they create... So this tension between collaboration and confrontation is good for the game... in my humble opinion.


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