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An abbot placed on a garden should be counted as...

A monk
0 (0%)
An abbot (a different role other than a monk)
7 (36.8%)
A gardener (a different role other than a monk)
12 (63.2%)
Another role (please explain)
0 (0%)

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The Abbot - Role on a garden
« on: December 07, 2021, 09:35:57 AM »
AB01. An abbot placed on a monastery is a monk, but what is the role of an abbot placed on a garden?


Example: Placing the abbot on a garden. We don’t know its role.

Notes:
* This is relevant for the Inquisition event of the Wheel of Fortune whereby players receive 2 points for each monk they have.

Current understanding:
* An abbots placed on a garden should not be considered a monk since the feature is not a monastery.

Proposals:
* Community role indicating the abbot placed on a garden is not a monk but a gardener (or an abbot).
* Avoid any confusion with meeples placed as abbots on special monasteries (if the abbot role is also considered)

EDIT: Included proposal summary

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Re: The Abbot - Role on a garden
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2021, 09:51:43 AM »
Clearly isn’t a monk. I see that intention of HiG is to do a same system of a monk but without a monastic building. An Abbot in a garden= gardener. But Abbot is a religious role even in a garden… If the rules talking about monks (on a religious building) Abbot on a garden doesn’t count I think…
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Re: The Abbot - Role on a garden
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2021, 12:23:07 PM »
I agree, not a monk.
When you would have any interaction with monastaries, i think Abbots would not be included, as they are not on monastaries, or monastary-like features. The scoring of the gardens work similarly, but that does not mean they are the same.
A meeple on a road connected to a German Cathedral doesn't count as a knight in a city, even though they score the same (i know, vague example, but still)
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Re: The Abbot - Role on a garden
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2021, 12:30:16 PM »
Gardens are not monasteries so they are not affected by vineyards or challenges! There is no garden placement restrictions around shrines for example.  ;)

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Re: The Abbot - Role on a garden
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2021, 12:48:58 PM »
Gardens are not monasteries so they are not affected by vineyards or challenges! There is no garden placement restrictions around shrines for example.  ;)

Exactly, gardens and abbots is something apart…

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Re: The Abbot - Role on a garden
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2021, 05:40:33 AM »
I guess if you're playing with someone and you can't agree, it'll come down to a friar fight.   8)


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