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News and Events / Re: Carcassonne Central's New Owners
« on: Today at 12:52:05 AM »
Thanks Kirk!

News and Events / Re: Carcassonne Central's New Owners
« on: January 23, 2022, 12:33:08 PM »
Regarding the financial expense of running the site, might it be possible to setup some kind of Patreon or similar so that users can contribute? So the financial weight can be shared rather than borne by just one which seems to have been the case in the past/currently?

Thanks for your kind and thoughtful words cicerunner. We have considered a few things in this vein, but since it's conception Carcassonne Central has always been free for anyone to be part of, and we've never segregated our community (except those few who know of the secret forums.... ssssh). I think if we were to accept donations, or patronage, we would have to offer something in return, and we're not entirely sure what that would be as of yet.  We're very grateful for the consideration though!


I should also add, and reiterate what I said above. The enuthisam of this forum is really what drives us. So seeing people's contributions, however small, even the occasional thank you, is often more than enough to keep us happy  :D

Anything Else / Re: Other Hobbies than board games
« on: January 23, 2022, 01:16:02 AM »
Very nice to see that you've been busy kettlefish!
DecarJr has a sock-snake that holds his bedroom door open. They have great character. Your snake is great and much longer! Your rat is nice too.

The Bazaar image does not have the American Flag, just some covered tables, and the garden is missing from one of the tiles, but everything else is the same and you can download the English rules from the web.

Just for completeness here should anyone stumble across this in the future.

You images aren't displaying. But the copy from "Italy" is from the first version of Carcassonne. Also the 2nd version doesn't have an American flag on it, and it's inaccurate to say so. Yes it does have some red and white stripes, but they appear on pavilions, a type of tent, which were a common occurrence throughout history. The white would be typically not dyed, or natural, cheaper, fabric, while colours like red were commonly used too due to their ease of manufacture. I'm not aware of any significance of red and white specifically, but papal pavilions were often yellow and red.

News and Events / Re: Carcassonne Central's New Owners
« on: January 21, 2022, 02:59:04 PM »
This is wonderful news!
Tom, Hector and Dan, please accept my sincere congratulations on your new role in this community. I wish you all the best and I'm sure that Carcassonne Central and Wikicarpedia will benefit greatly and continue to thrive. Although I am fairly new to the the world of Carcassonne and this forum, I would like to thank all of you (and your predecessors) for your commitment, energy, knowledge, initiatives and willingness to help other members. I can't imagine how much time and energy (and money?) is required to keep this small "universe" up and running smoothly and you are doing an excellent job. This is a wonderful place and an invaluable source of information for everything related to our favourite game and I'm grateful for it all.

Thanks for your kind words JohannesD. It means an awful lot to hear words like these. The most satisfying part is seeing so many people come together to enjoy Carcassonne with one another, and in so many different and unique ways.

Congratulations Tom, Hector and Dan! This site and others like it were a big part of my life some years ago, it’s great to see it’s still in such safe hands after all this time!

Wonderful to hear from you meepleater, I really appreciate you stopping by and saying wish you best.

Cool to hear that the site is back up.
Although I haven't been active for several years and hardly even get the chance to play nowadays.
I did make quite a few fan-made expansions myself.
This is the first time I have logged in for a couple of years.
Thanks for taking the time to pop in and wish us well Wicke!

Thanks to Dan, Tom and Hector for taking on the ownership of the website! I'm glad to hear that the future of Carcassonne Central is in safe hands. :green-meeple:

Great to hear from you too JT Atomico. It's been far too long, hope you're safe and well.

General / Re: Is C2 or C3?
« on: January 21, 2022, 05:51:21 AM »
Also this is on the side of the v3 box which helps to classify how HiG sees it:

General / Re: Is C2 or C3?
« on: January 21, 2022, 05:48:40 AM »
The Jubilee rules and the v3 rules contain:
Illustration: Anne Pätzke & Marcel Gröber

Safe to my contribution here has been totally useless.  Sorry Scott, good luck tracking it down. Z-man printing seems ridiculously slow at the moment, a lot of people have been waiting ages and ages for reprints of expansions to get shipped.

Gah sorry, didn't see that on amazon.

This was the one I saw, but I think it might be one of those dodgey chinese sites, not sure:

Couple of shops in the UK have it, including Amazon, if I'm of any help shipping let me know.

General / Re: Tile Counting Apps/ Programs
« on: January 20, 2022, 03:12:07 AM »
I don't think their use should be encouraged.  But I can see that their existence may help people learn the tile distribution or be able to play the game more fairly.

Some players will have an almost magic ability to track tiles and photographically recall information, you can't ask them to NOT tile count. None of the information is hidden, the state of the draw deck (or bag) is always known, and can always be calculated.

When I first started to tile count, I would start keeping tabs on the RRRR and CCCC tiles.  Then I started to do checks on the city tabs of each type. And then look and count the 8 and 9 road tiles.  The expectation isn't to learn and memorize ALL of the tiles in one go, nor track them during the game.  I'd start simply, or sometimes just get a feel if there were 2 or 3 of a certain tile remaining.  Knowing what's in the deck isn't quite the same skill and tracking the remaining tiles of certain types either.

Having said that, for some people memorizing and finding the played tiles is extremely difficult; and I'm not entirely convinced that it's fair that one person with good mental recall should be advantaged over a player with another.  But if you're incredibly good at visualizing all of the possible permutations and shape of the board, you'll probably play better than someone who can't.  As Dan said in his first post, there's a mental discipline being developed through the play of Carcassonne.

I think having a machine automagically tell you everything you need to know, doesn't develop player's ability to map out areas and shapes with the remaining tiles, which I think does develop with tile counting.

I do think if you're playing with more than one expansion that remembering all the nuance of tile distributions is pretty hard. I dread to think how Mega Carcassonne players cope.

General / Re: Is C2 or C3?
« on: January 19, 2022, 05:49:15 AM »
I think that 2x2 frame (on BGG) is cropped. Remember that one year 2 consecutive years were given out by mistake, and sold on ebay.  If I remember, a 2015 tile was available in 2014, the following year 2x2016 and 2017 tile was available in 2015. Suggesting they were all printed at the same time.

General / Re: Is C2 or C3?
« on: January 19, 2022, 05:38:03 AM »
And if I recall correctly, 2014, 15,16 and 17 were printed at the same time on the same tile sheet. So it would make sense for a noticeable change to occur for 2018.

General / Re: Is C2 or C3?
« on: January 19, 2022, 05:36:26 AM »
Thanks to the flash you can see the paper type, and the linen finish, changing too.

General / Re: Is C2 or C3?
« on: January 19, 2022, 05:33:47 AM »
Here's 2017 and 2018. 2018 looked more rounded than 2017

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