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Title: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: KBellon on May 26, 2021, 03:57:06 PM
Hello everyone,

I was wondering if anybody had any experience with sleeving their Carc tiles?
And if yes, which sleeves you prefer.

I would like to use my spiel tiles, Darmstadt, Plague tiles etc. in game, but I would hate it if they would take any damage.
I don't think they will wear off as I only play each specific expansion a few times a year.

But anyways, do you think it's necessary or helpful to sleeve your tiles?
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Allograft on May 26, 2021, 04:23:17 PM
On the positive side, sleeves protect tiles from shuffling, spilled drinks, and greasy fingers.

On the negative side, the tiles don't fit together as easily and your family will tease you.

Also, sleeves do not protect against being chewed by dogs.

I like Swan -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Drodo on May 26, 2021, 05:45:49 PM
I ordered 3200 sleeves. Not delivered yet but they're coming. I'm using them on the whole collection. Should be enough for every single Carcassonne game I own.
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Meepledrone on May 26, 2021, 11:06:25 PM
Here you are a topic covering sleeving techniques for non-square tiles, just in case you are interested...

http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4941.0 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4941.0)

As you can see, you can find some hard-core sleevers around.  ;D
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Willem on May 27, 2021, 12:13:02 AM
Normally, all my tiles/expansions are for playing, and as I can't be bothered to sleeve everything, sleeving for me means to take those tiles out of the running for playing.
In the beginning, I only sleeved my spiel tiles and russian promos. I've got some home-made copies of the first Russian set, which I use to play with, and the others... Ah well..

But I recently saw some expansions shoot up in prices and have been thinking about sleeving more. For some expansions I do have extra copies, so if mine become damaged, I can replace, but some I don't. But I haven't done it yet, as I want to keep playing with them, and still don't feel much for sleeving a whole set.
For the base game for example I find it pointless to sleeve; I've got over 20 (old art) base games, so why would I go through the trouble of sleeving 1 set (that is already showing signs of wear) when I like to see them being used, and I got them to play, not to look at (got other tiles for that hahahaha)

So yeah, tricky question that I'm not sure about myself, but for now I am still very selective with sleeving
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: KBellon on May 27, 2021, 01:57:17 AM
Thanks for the answers!

I would only sleeve the expensive expansions as well. Just in case for example The Plague gets damaged.
No idea how much it would cost in the future to buy it again.

The reason is because I did buy everything to play it and not to sit around in a closet and to look at it from time to time. It does bother me that the sleeved tiles would leave some space between the tiles.

On the other hand, I am thinking to maybe print some of the most expensive expansions and use them for playing as well. I think I might go with that, something to do this summer ;)

Anyways, I already have some rules concerning carcassonne safety -> no drinks on the table (we got a little extra table ready for that) and no potato chips or snacks while playing :p
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: KBellon on May 27, 2021, 09:33:03 AM
Another question, do you actually see any damage to your tiles?

I got my basegame in 2009 and the tiles still look exactly the same as some of my newest tiles.
I can imagine maybe after 20 years some changes are visible.
However, would not mind it in the base game, you can just buy another. And most mini expansions will not be included in every game, making them wear off a lot slower I would think.
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Willem on May 27, 2021, 12:09:09 PM
Yes, I can definitely see some wear on my standard play game.
Picture for comparison:
(https://i.ibb.co/smwNcHg/IMG-20210527-194647.jpg) (https://ibb.co/smwNcHg)

So those are a few random tiles from the base game I usually play with (BB5 game), next to one of the unpunched games I have.
You can see some wear on the tile, and I can tell by the corners/sides of the tiles as well.

These are not too bad, but I have seen a really worn out game that has seen many many plays at the board game cafe in Oxford a few years back.
It also depends a bit on how you play. We always use a bag, which leads to more wear on the tiles than a tile tower for example
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Allograft on May 27, 2021, 01:59:49 PM
For the base game for example I find it pointless to sleeve

I sleeve the base game so that things fit together nicely. Do you find that sleeved and unsleeved work well during actual gameplay together? -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Willem on May 27, 2021, 02:36:49 PM
I haven't played with any sleeved tile so far, so also haven't tried to mixed sleeved and non-sleeved.
The one thing with that is that you then can tell if you're getting a sleeved tile, and with that can predict more what tile (or at least from which expansion) you're getting, so I would expect to play with all sleeved or all non-sleeved in a game
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: KBellon on May 27, 2021, 03:53:26 PM
It also depends a bit on how you play. We always use a bag, which leads to more wear on the tiles than a tile tower for example

Yeah thats why I only use 2 towers to stack the tiles. And before playing we dont really slide them over each other onto the table, we just randomly place expansion tiles in between little stacks of the base game on the table and then place the stacks into the tower. All to avoid rubbing the tiles.
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Allograft on May 27, 2021, 04:42:06 PM
Indeed, the bag can definitely wear the tiles. Jelly beans are polished by basically putting a whole bunch in a large front loading clothes dryer. They are spun, like shaking the bag, and the friction of the jellybeans against one another wears down edges and makes them all smooth. Great for candy. Not so good for Darmstadt. -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Dkmvs on May 28, 2021, 10:08:28 AM
We use a bag and I’ve got it all sleeved. And I wouldn’t like to play without it. I’d definetaly recommend sleeving. Swan sleeves btw.
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Meepledrone on May 28, 2021, 10:25:35 AM
I haven't sleeved my tiles yet... I shuffle them by making small stacks combining base game tiles and other expansions tiles and then mix the stacks and place them in a tower dispenser...
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Allograft on May 28, 2021, 11:22:24 AM
We use a bag and I’ve got it all sleeved. And I wouldn’t like to play without it. I’d definetaly recommend sleeving. Swan sleeves btw.

Merit! for basically doing what I do -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: PurpleMeeple on May 28, 2021, 11:51:46 AM
Swan sleeves.. ( are even any others for Carcassonne tiles? )

All sleeved, use tower or bag depending on number of players, 2 or 3 tower, bag generally if more.

In case of H&G, also sleeved, have just put shuffled piles on table..

Negligible gap between tiles has not come up as an issue..

:)

:violet:meeple:


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Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: DrMeeple on May 28, 2021, 12:33:19 PM
Hello Kbellon,

I highly recomended to sleeve all your carcassonne stuff. In my case, I tried to be careful with my collection before the sleeves but sleeving tiles you don’t have to care anymore about liquids and dirty hands touching cathars or crop circles I for example.
I only know about swan panasia sleeves… I think that it doesn’t exist another sleeves than that. Actually I think sleeves are out of stock… perhaps in a near future sleeves will come back via cundco or asmodee??
Any doubt about sleeving tiles you can ask here.

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Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: KBellon on May 29, 2021, 01:31:18 AM
I've only seen Swan sleeves as well, but it seems to be sold out everywhere as you said.
Maybe I could contact Cundco and ask them if they're planning to release sleeves.
I'd certainly buy it.
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Dkmvs on May 29, 2021, 10:28:19 AM
Queen of Games (https://www.queenofgames.be/product/sleeves-swan-panasia-card-sleeves-47-x-47-160-thin/) has them in stock. A site from Belgium; every time I buy all they have, but they seem to restock every time I buy them. Did it thrice btw.
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Drodo on May 29, 2021, 01:17:58 PM
Queen of Games (https://www.queenofgames.be/product/sleeves-swan-panasia-card-sleeves-47-x-47-160-thin/) has them in stock. A site from Belgium; every time I buy all they have, but they seem to restock every time I buy them. Did it thrice btw.

Why?
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: Willem on May 29, 2021, 03:03:24 PM
I'm gonna guess it was to sleeve all tiles?

Bgextras in the UK have them in stock as well. I bought them from there years ago, and now they have them in regular stock again
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: corinthiens13 on May 29, 2021, 10:24:39 PM
Swanpanasia has them in stock too, I bought 320 sleeves yesterday, after sleeving almost all of my collection  :yellow-meeple:
https://www.swanpanasiasleeves.com/products/swan-prem-adhesive-sleeves-47x47-mm?_pos=1&_sid=85999761a&_ss=r (https://www.swanpanasiasleeves.com/products/swan-prem-adhesive-sleeves-47x47-mm?_pos=1&_sid=85999761a&_ss=r)
Title: Re: To sleeve or not to sleeve
Post by: KBellon on May 30, 2021, 05:15:40 AM
Queen of Games (https://www.queenofgames.be/product/sleeves-swan-panasia-card-sleeves-47-x-47-160-thin/) has them in stock. A site from Belgium; every time I buy all they have, but they seem to restock every time I buy them. Did it thrice btw.

Thank you, since I am living in Belgium I am going to buy these ones :D

+1 Merit for the help everybody