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Title: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Meepledrone on July 23, 2021, 09:55:03 AM
Dear all,

Spielbox 2021/4 features Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition. Sorry, no mini expansion is included in this issue.  :-[

(https://nostheide.de/webshop3/images/product_images/popup_images/752_0.jpeg)

Here you are a description of its contents:

spielbox 2021/4 - English edition
Release: middle of August but you can order from now on!

add-ons:
New tableau for "New York Zoo" (Feuerland)
2 new exclusive bonus cases for "Micro Macro - Crime City" (Pegasus)

The issue includes the cover story: 20 years of Carcassonne. An interview with the still acting CEO of Asmodee Germany, Alexis Desplats. 25 reviews (including City of Angels, Cryptid, Flotilla, Marvel Champions. The Card Game, Santa Monica and Sprawlopolis) as well as 5 children's games. The complete table of contents will be available here at beginning of August

8,00 EUR

( 7 % VAT incl. excl. Shipping costs )

Shipping time: 6-14 days




Here you can find the links to the spielbox eShop:

English version:

https://www.nostheide.de/webshop3/product_info.php?products_id=752 (https://www.nostheide.de/webshop3/product_info.php?products_id=752)

German version:

https://www.nostheide.de/webshop3/product_info.php?products_id=751 (https://www.nostheide.de/webshop3/product_info.php?products_id=751)
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Willem on July 23, 2021, 02:39:18 PM
Thanks!
I think I will be getting this one, even though it doesn't have any tiles  ;D
Am quite interested in what they'll have for the 20th anniversary
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Decar on July 24, 2021, 02:31:50 AM
I've got a subscription, so if anyone would rather wait and find out, my English copy will be here soon.

I've quite enjoyed receiving Speilbox over the last year.  They often have very accurate reviews, the time and analysis of games has been excellent, and helped me pick and choose a few games of interest.  I like their interviews, rule variants, and kid's game reviews too.
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Meepledrone on July 24, 2021, 02:37:53 AM
Yes, please, keep us posted!  :(y) :(y)
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: DIN0 on July 24, 2021, 05:59:55 AM
I bet some people reding the title thought the entire box was included with the issue  >:D
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Meepledrone on July 24, 2021, 06:41:48 AM
I said featured, not included... Click bait was not my intention... :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: DIN0 on July 24, 2021, 07:25:12 AM
I know  :D

Random question: Is there any specific reason why we don't see Spielbox expansion for Carcassonne anymore? The last one was Halflings seven years ago and since then any magazine expansions came from SPIEL DOCH!.
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Weetek23 on July 24, 2021, 01:51:00 PM
This is my question, too. I must admit that I was a bit expecting some Spielbox extras, eve though the cover is actually very nice..
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Meepledrone on July 24, 2021, 02:14:04 PM
No clue about any businness decisions that this type of collaboration may entail.

I actually was expecting the same as you... A tiny promo that would cellebrate the 20th Anniversary...

Was it due to lack of time or production issues? Do HiG have some other plans?

For me it was a missed opportunity entirely. Imagine the magazine had included a few more 20th Anniversary Expansion tiles (a 4th action as a homage to the Tower) or an official version of The Land Surveyors... It would had been awesome!!!!

Note: Example of homage to the tower: 5 new tiles featuring an arrow symbol with tower and a number. When activated, the tile allows you to capture any meeple emulating a tower with the range given by the number (a tower symbol with a number 2 emulates a tower with 2 floors placed on the symbol tile). 
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Mr Meeple on July 24, 2021, 02:33:07 PM
I was pretty sure about a mini expansion after such a long time. Maybe it is a question of rights, but I'm still hoping that they'll include an exclusive mini expansion in the near future. Fingers crossed  :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: DIN0 on July 24, 2021, 04:02:46 PM
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or an official version of The Land Surveyors... It would had been awesome!!!!
That would indeed be awesome! Of course nothing wrong with the current version, but I would like an officially printed physical product.
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Willem on August 27, 2021, 05:57:16 AM
The English version is now also available at bgextras
https://www.bgextras.co.uk/spielbox-magazine-04-2021-including-promos-for-new-york-zoo-and-micro-macro-crime-city-i5213.htm

And Cundco has both the German and English version of the edition
https://cundco.de/zeitschriften-buecher/
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Decar on August 29, 2021, 03:02:13 AM
This only includes a short double page interview with KJW. There's a large image too showing a Carcassonne collection that takes up half a page.
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Bumsakalaka on August 30, 2021, 04:36:56 AM
Maybe it's rule of publisher of magazine. It's 20 years old game. They want to get minis for new games. This reason why there was so long no Carcassonne mini. I guess (this if my point of view as part of publishing house years ago).

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Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Meepledrone on August 30, 2021, 12:34:54 PM
Maybe HiG were just caugth up in the middle of too many issues and had to prioritize...
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Bumsakalaka on August 31, 2021, 12:13:05 AM
Maybe HiG were just caugth up in the middle of too many issues and had to prioritize...
This is not about HiG this is about publisher of Spielbox which is not HiG.
Title: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: DrMeeple on August 31, 2021, 03:40:56 AM
This only includes a short double page interview with KJW. There's a large image too showing a Carcassonne collection that takes up half a page.
Sad… Carcassonne deserves another special almanac because his 20th anniversary…


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Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Weetek23 on August 31, 2021, 08:10:04 AM
The more I look at the gorgeous front page of the recent Spielbox issue, the more I regard this as a missed opportunity. I know that both almanachs were published ages back (2005 and 2008, correct?) and I actually never had a chance to read through any of them. It may bee nowadays too much to devote a special issue to a single board game, even though a really famous and successfull one. But something little more to commemorate an anniversary that maybe not that many games celebrate at such a good shape would may not be too much to wish. The possibilities are so many. Just yesterday we, albeit perfecly at home, played a quick game of Carcassonne für zwei. This travel iteration of C2 base game never saw any expansion so far, right? Could have been a neat possibility to introduce few tiles of a right size with 20th anniversary themes through Spielbox... And we may think of so many little extras. Pitty.
Title: Re: Carcassonne 20th Anniversary Edition featured in Spielbox 2021/4
Post by: Bumsakalaka on September 01, 2021, 02:40:48 AM
The more I look at the gorgeous front page of the recent Spielbox issue, the more I regard this as a missed opportunity. I know that both almanachs were published ages back (2005 and 2008, correct?) and I actually never had a chance to read through any of them. It may bee nowadays too much to devote a special issue to a single board game, even though a really famous and successfull one. But something little more to commemorate an anniversary that maybe not that many games celebrate at such a good shape would may not be too much to wish. The possibilities are so many. Just yesterday we, albeit perfecly at home, played a quick game of Carcassonne für zwei. This travel iteration of C2 base game never saw any expansion so far, right? Could have been a neat possibility to introduce few tiles of a right size with 20th anniversary themes through Spielbox... And we may think of so many little extras. Pitty.

This is not bad idea. But you have also to look to publisher. Publisher add this "minis" to increase of sale of his magazine. Image, how much of us, bought some of issues just for included mini. In these days, all of informations are on internet. So why to buy printed media. I has to have something unique, and those minis are. Maybe is problem, that previous minis was published by SpielBox and they were also available on cundco. Than (availability on cundco) it looses it's uniqueness.

Another point of view is: Will be this mini interesting for most of readers and buyrs of magazine? Imagine, that they has to produce that mini which means, print tiles, print rules, sleeve it. This mini can be bought on cundco for 4.50 - 5.00 EUR. When you add it as "ad" to magazine, it just brings costs for HiG as included ad. (And in huge numbers of copies).

For this case, previous minis included in magazines was printed by publisher with some cooperation with HiG. But most of costs I guess was paid by publisher. And by way of were are back to publisher?

Will include publisher mini for game which is:
1. old (20 year) - carcassonne
2. most of players of game buys only official expansions and not all of them
3. maybe some jung player are not interested in old games
4. there are plenty of new games which is interesting for readers and can increase sell of game if they are in hype (Micro/Macro)
5. you will never add mini for game, which is sold out (travel carcassonne)

So it's very expensive and risky business for both sides - publisher and HiG.

I wrote it elsewhere - HiG got big profit of minis sold on cundco
1. He not pay to other language publishers for this sell
2. Costs of delivery is bigger than they pay for postage
3. They don't care on rules interactions on mini and other expansions (large or mini) -> this means, it's more cost free like large expansions where thay care about rules interactions at least on large-large expansions

Howk :D Or as somedy said on big funky animal tausend year (-1 * ago) "I have spoken."