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Title: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Gunho on January 01, 2021, 01:17:42 PM
What do you think this means ?

https://www.facebook.com/Brettspiele/posts/10159111054877299 (https://www.facebook.com/Brettspiele/posts/10159111054877299)

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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 01, 2021, 01:20:58 PM
11th expansion ?

Or... CIII design  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: gabrielgeek on January 01, 2021, 01:21:48 PM
Ultimate Railroads!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 01, 2021, 01:25:08 PM
11th expansion ?

Or... CIII design  >:D >:D >:D
CIII design! Finally! Better than C2 even C1

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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on January 01, 2021, 03:07:39 PM
Judging by the logo, it is the anniversary edition, which is planned to be rreleased around spring 2021.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 01, 2021, 03:30:45 PM
Judging by the logo, it is the anniversary edition, which is planned to be rreleased around spring 2021.
Of course is the 20th anniversary edition but maybe with a CIII design...

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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 01, 2021, 03:38:51 PM
They updated the font for sure, but releasing everything again in a new artwork would be an overkill for them after only 6 years...

Would you store away all your C1 collection and start to a new one?  :o

Will they publish a Mega Big Box with everything included? Would they release a 100-page book with all the interactions documented down to the tiniest detail?  :))
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: inigomartinez on January 02, 2021, 11:12:41 AM
Here in Italy we're still waiting for the C2 versions of exp. 5 and 8. If HiG released a new C3 edition it would be beyond ridiculous.
Here in Spain didn’t released exp 10 in C2 style by Devir... But you can buy exp 5 and 8 on cundco... Rules you can always translate on internet... Not a big deal...


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We (in Spain) are also missing expansion 6  :-\

I also hope that they don't move to a newer design (CIII).
It is funny, because in Czeck rep. And Slovakia some of large C2 expansions was released again because they free sold out.
Maybe Devir has still on stock this expansion in C1. who knows :)

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Expansion 6 was never released in Spain, not even in C1. I hope that they release it someday in C2 design along with expansion 10  ::)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: supertopix on January 02, 2021, 11:43:07 AM
Here in Italy we're still waiting for the C2 versions of exp. 5 and 8. If HiG released a new C3 edition it would be beyond ridiculous.
And 6.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: gabrielgeek on January 02, 2021, 11:44:06 AM
Here in Italy we're still waiting for the C2 versions of exp. 5 and 8. If HiG released a new C3 edition it would be beyond ridiculous.
And 6.
No, the new Italian edition of 6 was published in 2020. It's the last one I bought.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 02, 2021, 11:53:10 AM
Here in Italy we're still waiting for the C2 versions of exp. 5 and 8. If HiG released a new C3 edition it would be beyond ridiculous.
Here in Spain didn’t released exp 10 in C2 style by Devir... But you can buy exp 5 and 8 on cundco... Rules you can always translate on internet... Not a big deal...


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We (in Spain) are also missing expansion 6  :-\

I also hope that they don't move to a newer design (CIII).
It is funny, because in Czeck rep. And Slovakia some of large C2 expansions was released again because they free sold out.
Maybe Devir has still on stock this expansion in C1. who knows :)

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Expansion 6 was never released in Spain, not even in C1. I hope that they release it someday in C2 design along with expansion 10  ::)

True!
If you plan to buy everything from Devir or want to have everything from the same publisher, I recommend buying directly everything from HiG because Devir, as you imagine other publishers don't usually edit everything from Carcassonne...
I think this 20th anniversary edition will be a prelude to C3 but I don't think they will now change everything to C3 more than something apart... Maybe later they will change it but now I see it very hasty ... It will be something exclusive or I hope so ... .
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: supertopix on January 02, 2021, 11:54:24 AM
Here in Italy we're still waiting for the C2 versions of exp. 5 and 8. If HiG released a new C3 edition it would be beyond ridiculous.
And 6.
No, the new Italian edition of 6 was published in 2020. It's the last one I bought.
Really? I missed it, I already have HiG edition, bought in some airport :-).
On Giochi Uniti website I can’t see it.

Edit (ok, there are actually 2 pictures and one is CII).
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: gabrielgeek on January 02, 2021, 11:56:56 AM
Here in Italy we're still waiting for the C2 versions of exp. 5 and 8. If HiG released a new C3 edition it would be beyond ridiculous.
And 6.
No, the new Italian edition of 6 was published in 2020. It's the last one I bought.
Really? I missed it, I already have HiG edition, bought in some airport :-).
On Giochi Uniti website I can’t see it.
You can buy it fairly cheap on Amazon.

https://www.amazon.it/dp/B007K82KB2/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_z-m8FbHSY0TT2(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210102/8ab018efa3b11b230a7dfe31556faf3b.jpg)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 02, 2021, 12:10:46 PM
Here in Italy we're still waiting for the C2 versions of exp. 5 and 8. If HiG released a new C3 edition it would be beyond ridiculous.

As I wrote before about Devir, in eshop of italian publisher Giochi Uniti, there is still Expansion 8 in C1 available. Expansion 5 in C1 not, so maybe they will publish C2 version this year.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 02, 2021, 12:19:19 PM
Don't pay any attention to the info about Carcassonne on Devir's website. They don't update it since the release of BB6 around 2017... at least the Spanish one  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: gabrielgeek on January 02, 2021, 12:24:59 PM
Here in Italy we're still waiting for the C2 versions of exp. 5 and 8. If HiG released a new C3 edition it would be beyond ridiculous.

As I wrote before about Devir, in eshop of italian publisher Giochi Uniti, there is still Expansion 8 in C1 available. Expansion 5 in C1 not, so maybe they will publish C2 version this year.
Giochi Uniti has already a history of late localization for expansions. They once had so many leftover copies of the wooden edition of Catan Cities and Knights that only recently they managed to get rid of and now they are finally offering the new plastic edition. All other expansions were offered in the new edition since years. The same is happening with Carc expansions, apparently.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Gunho on January 02, 2021, 10:48:48 PM

Congrats Gunho for your first post!

You help us start the year with hope in what's to come! Thanks!

Have you being playing Carcassonne for long? A C1 or a C2 fan? Small games or Mega Carcassonne?

Happy New Year!

Yes I have been playing Carcassonne for a while, probably about ten years. I started out on the old app for iPad, and then purchased Big Box 3. It is one of my family's favorite games. I recently got Hills and Sheep as well, and am trying to start playing a little more competitively on Asmodee's digital version. I picked it up when it offered for free on the Epic Games platform a little while back.

I prefer C1 as that is what most of my collection consists of, but I don't mind C2 either. I don't like really long games, so I prefer playing with 2 expansions maximum.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 03, 2021, 01:07:05 AM

Congrats Gunho for your first post!

You help us start the year with hope in what's to come! Thanks!

Have you being playing Carcassonne for long? A C1 or a C2 fan? Small games or Mega Carcassonne?

Happy New Year!

Yes I have been playing Carcassonne for a while, probably about ten years. I started out on the old app for iPad, and then purchased Big Box 3. It is one of my family's favorite games. I recently got Hills and Sheep as well, and am trying to start playing a little more competitively on Asmodee's digital version. I picked it up when it offered for free on the Epic Games platform a little while back.

I prefer C1 as that is what most of my collection consists of, but I don't mind C2 either. I don't like really long games, so I prefer playing with 2 expansions maximum.
I think this is the begining of a good friendship hahaha

Enviado desde St. Meeple Hospital

Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 03, 2021, 01:15:12 AM

Congrats Gunho for your first post!

You help us start the year with hope in what's to come! Thanks!

Have you being playing Carcassonne for long? A C1 or a C2 fan? Small games or Mega Carcassonne?

Happy New Year!

Yes I have been playing Carcassonne for a while, probably about ten years. I started out on the old app for iPad, and then purchased Big Box 3. It is one of my family's favorite games. I recently got Hills and Sheep as well, and am trying to start playing a little more competitively on Asmodee's digital version. I picked it up when it offered for free on the Epic Games platform a little while back.

I prefer C1 as that is what most of my collection consists of, but I don't mind C2 either. I don't like really long games, so I prefer playing with 2 expansions maximum.
I think this is the begining of a good friendship hahaha

Enviado desde St. Meeple Hospital

You can establish a game club called C1 Rick's Cafe!  ;)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 03, 2021, 09:43:52 AM
Here in Italy we're still waiting for the C2 versions of exp. 5 and 8. If HiG released a new C3 edition it would be beyond ridiculous.

As I wrote before about Devir, in eshop of italian publisher Giochi Uniti, there is still Expansion 8 in C1 available. Expansion 5 in C1 not, so maybe they will publish C2 version this year.
Giochi Uniti has already a history of late localization for expansions. They once had so many leftover copies of the wooden edition of Catan Cities and Knights that only recently they managed to get rid of and now they are finally offering the new plastic edition. All other expansions were offered in the new edition since years. The same is happening with Carc expansions, apparently.
It's problem of only one language edition of games.
But sometimes it helps if somebody are looking for brand new old game where game material is language independent (like carcassonne).
Good example are still available minis C1 expansions on Slovak page (Mini 1-2) or Finland page (Mini 1-6)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 03, 2021, 10:00:07 AM

Congrats Gunho for your first post!

You help us start the year with hope in what's to come! Thanks!

Have you being playing Carcassonne for long? A C1 or a C2 fan? Small games or Mega Carcassonne?

Happy New Year!

Yes I have been playing Carcassonne for a while, probably about ten years. I started out on the old app for iPad, and then purchased Big Box 3. It is one of my family's favorite games. I recently got Hills and Sheep as well, and am trying to start playing a little more competitively on Asmodee's digital version. I picked it up when it offered for free on the Epic Games platform a little while back.

I prefer C1 as that is what most of my collection consists of, but I don't mind C2 either. I don't like really long games, so I prefer playing with 2 expansions maximum.
I think this is the begining of a good friendship hahaha

Enviado desde St. Meeple Hospital

You can establish a game club called C1 Rick's Cafe!  ;)

Good idea! But I will call it C1 Meeple's Cafe hhahaah
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 04, 2021, 03:35:34 AM
I'm expecting a Big Box with some exclusive expansion in it.

Probably like the proto-big box Gold version.

I'm more interested in Ultimate Railroads.  Will this include both German and Russian Rail roads?  One has been out of print for quite a while.  I've been hoping to play it online.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 04, 2021, 06:46:13 AM
Maybe it will be some collectible version of Carcassonne, like Gold/Leather book version years ago.
I have one collectible bible with very nice pictures in big format (larger than A4 / Letter).
Event it is protestant bible, and it was very educative for me (to see differences). I have some interesting books in bookshelf with different point of view of everything ;-) But those collectible  Carcassonne "Book" is obviously missing ;-)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: gabrielgeek on January 04, 2021, 06:53:26 AM
I'm expecting a Big Box with some exclusive expansion in it.

Probably like the proto-big box Gold version.

I'm more interested in Ultimate Railroads.  Will this include both German and Russian Rail roads?  One has been out of print for quite a while.  I've been hoping to play it online.
Rumors have it that Ultimate Railroads will contain everything released so far for RRR: base game, German RR, American RR, DSP mini-expansion, Juri Dreigleisky engineer. Maybe even more, who knows?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 04, 2021, 07:39:36 AM
I hope so, but maybe it isn't.  It's not too uncommon for things to not be quite perfect  ;)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on January 04, 2021, 06:24:27 PM
I'm expecting a Big Box with some exclusive expansion in it.

Probably like the proto-big box Gold version.

I share your expectations.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Carcassonne King on January 06, 2021, 02:49:26 AM
I'm personally hoping that the Carcassonne 20th anniversary edition is like the Catan 25th anniversary edition - pieces with unique paint jobs and some helpful things like sleeves and trays, but no exclusive expansions.  It's bad enough that I had to get second copies of the base game and first and second expansions when I got the big box just to get the 7 mini expansions.  Don't do this to me again!  Also, I really hope it's not Carcassonne 3.0.  2.0 looks great and doesn't need to be updated, plus it hasn't been out for very long.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Weetek23 on January 06, 2021, 05:18:19 AM
I also hope that there will be no Carcassonne 3.0 release any time soon. I think there would be few who would genuinly appreciate it now.
What I wish the so far mysterious release to contain: new version of Wheel of Fortune, two brand-new miniexpansions, one Festival 20 years edition (after two issues, this is also a bit of a tradition now, right?), two hard-to-find CC1 minis in the new artwork (my preffered choices would be Besiegers and Tunnels).
What I expect it to contain: basic game, Festival 20, one new and one remade miniexpansion.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: gabrielgeek on January 06, 2021, 05:31:48 AM
When can we expect some news?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 06, 2021, 11:22:34 AM
I expect to know more on Tuesday  :(y)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 06, 2021, 11:30:49 AM
Any particular event that day?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PurpleMeeple on January 12, 2021, 12:05:02 AM
I expect to know more on Tuesday  :(y)

I'll be checking back on this thread all day so please don't keep us waiting :)   ;)

What if they release a Catapult Gold Edition?  >:D

I also hope that there will be no Carcassonne 3.0 release any time soon. I think there would be few who would genuinly appreciate it now.
What I wish the so far mysterious release to contain: new version of Wheel of Fortune, two brand-new miniexpansions, one Festival 20 years edition (after two issues, this is also a bit of a tradition now, right?), two hard-to-find CC1 minis in the new artwork (my preffered choices would be Besiegers and Tunnels).
What I expect it to contain: basic game, Festival 20, one new and one remade miniexpansion.

20 year edition with every remaining expansions converted to CII (WoF, tunnel, plague, wind roses, school, Darmstadt, catapult  ;D , Games quarterly, Cathars, tunnel, little buildings,  why not city gates and easter in carcassonne  ;D )

Just kidding  ;D

My thoughts:

Exp. 7 is the only major unreleased CII expansion :)) Not that it's what I'm hoping for, perhaps they could 'improve' it for CII though  :P

I am firmly in the 'please not CIII' camp. 

I also would not like to be buying a pricey set of mostly repeats just to get one otherwise unavailable expansion or a few tiles, if it is a big box then I'd really like it to be one that compliments BB6 rather than repeats most of it, much like Weetek23's wish. 

Even better O0 corinthiens13's suggestion, however unlikely, would actually be perfect for us CII collectors of course and would be a specifically ideal addition for my collection as it is now, however like Dacar said:

...  It's not too uncommon for things to not be quite perfect  ;)

Into the realm of Carcassonne daydreams  ;D :

The back of the tiles could be replaced with QR codes with the Carcassonne 'C' still there in the middle, QR link could open the specific tile's entry in an online database that would provide tile details like the expansion it comes from and highlight the minor details on the tile that might go missed but effect the game or scoring while playing certain expansions.  (if you get, or already have your next tile while previous player taking their turn then you can scan the back of tile using your phone without revealing the face, good for new players and little played expansions I think :) )

NFC equipped tiles that work with an App that could also use image recognition to identify your non NFC tiles could be even quicker possibly and potentially help facilitate over-the-web games of 'physical' Carcassonne or help find that last elusive expansion tile that is hiding amongst what is otherwise just the base set left to pack away..  (normally an Inn and Cathedrals tile for me - one without either on it of course ::) - anybody else experience this too?)

Of course if they did either of above then I would really want all my tiles/expansions to have it, so in that case I would be wishing for a Mega Big Box that contained all released CII content (including a 'last chance' to catch up with Spiel promos, why not  :P this is fantasy at this point lol) plus something new or at least converted from CI and new to CII. Surely they could do all this and keep it within the cost of that last Collectors Edition?  :P   Not asking much is it?  :)) :)) :))  If this happened then my concerns about CIII artwork and repeated expansions would be moot.. :)


Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: cicerunner on January 12, 2021, 02:13:26 PM
We do all know that it's not going to be interesting don't we?

The fantasies are fun of course. Mine is probably some kind of value for money bundle that includes small but interesting minis and a streamlined insert that fits the base game box perfectly. But it's so obviously fantasy I can't even summon the energy to consider what those minis might be.

In reality? It'll be base, (Abbot, River) plus Inns & Cathedrals. Or, at a different price point, all that plus Traders & Builders and a limited edition copy of The Festival 20 and something else small and unique to the package.

If there's much, if anything, not mentioned above I'll be significantly surprised.

The aim is to generate publicity, boost market presence and generate sales. Not necessarily in that order. Whatever it is, it'll be conservative and will be aimed at the mass market - not any of us.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 12, 2021, 02:17:22 PM
Maybe Wheel of fortune edition:with festival 20?

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That'd be amazing!  :D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Carcassonne93 on January 13, 2021, 09:26:59 AM
Not C3 : https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/carcassonne20/jubilaeums-produkte.html#content.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 13, 2021, 10:12:50 AM
Not C3 : https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/carcassonne20/jubilaeums-produkte.html#content.

The fact that it's not C3 is great!  :D

But by looking at the size of the box (comparing the text's size with the box's width), I'm afraid it may be only the base game (maybe with abbot and river, or another mini instead but not much), in an expensive nice looking box, and an expensive nice looking rulebook...  :'(
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 13, 2021, 10:16:48 AM
Maybe with a golden meeple coin inside  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: oldbonz on January 13, 2021, 12:11:05 PM
maybe, however let's stay vigilant, anything can happen
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 13, 2021, 12:19:46 PM
Not C3 : https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/carcassonne20/jubilaeums-produkte.html#content.

Big stone fall down fron my harth ;-)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 13, 2021, 12:27:56 PM
Anyway, it's good. All of aour official tiles and fan expansion tiles can be calm the we don't replace them for a while ;-)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 13, 2021, 12:37:21 PM
maybe, however let's stay vigilant, anything can happen

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4957.0;attach=13567)

Ha ha ha!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: oldbonz on January 13, 2021, 12:37:36 PM
a little humor in these difficult times is always good
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 14, 2021, 12:41:01 AM
Not C3 : https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/carcassonne20/jubilaeums-produkte.html#content.

The fact that it's not C3 is great!  :D

But by looking at the size of the box (comparing the text's size with the box's width), I'm afraid it may be only the base game (maybe with abbot and river, or another mini instead but not much), in an expensive nice looking box, and an expensive nice looking rulebook...  :'(
Are you afraid? Don’t be afraid you are right, normal C2 game with a mini expansion sure... 20th festival? This confirms my suspicious... They do again like 10th annyversary.. basic game with a mini expansion and only change the box... bravo HiG... I will not expect nothing more of HiG... Hype 0


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 14, 2021, 03:14:22 AM
By Netherland publisher 999 games
https://www.999games.nl/blog-preview-bordspellen-eerste-maanden-van-2021 (https://www.999games.nl/blog-preview-bordspellen-eerste-maanden-van-2021)
Anniversary edition is planed to May 2021 (language intedepend from 999 games or worldwide)?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Fritz_Spinne on January 14, 2021, 03:49:03 AM
I think only the box will be language independant (for latin-letter-readers!) and without any further text, perhaps with a banderole or a sticker on the foil. The rules should be language dependent.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PurpleMeeple on January 14, 2021, 07:09:38 AM
Yeah, Translated to English from the 999games link: "The packaging gets a beautiful, completely new design and becomes completely language-free."

The image of the rule booklet on the Hans Im Gluck linked page shows German language, so unless they are trying to say it will contain instructions for multiple languages (i.e. Will not need each country's publisher to translate before going on sale in each country), it does seem to be suggesting no text on the box.  Apart from Title and Author as can already clearly be seen..
 
I do at some point want to get a second set of base tiles so this set may well be the way I do it.  Especially if it does contain 'Festival 20' or something new.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 14, 2021, 11:08:01 AM
Rules in multiple languages would be an overcost... and HiG would probably get in the way of local publishers...

I'm wondering if the box contains more extras beyond the the Base Game, The Abbot and The River? The 20th festival tile would be a must... But something more daring would be awesome.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 14, 2021, 11:50:28 AM
Wooden meeples, currently nothing special, except "brown colored" rules and new box.

We will see ;-)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 14, 2021, 12:51:07 PM
Rules in multiple languages would be an overcost... and HiG would probably get in the way of local publishers...

I'm wondering if the box contains more extras beyond the the Base Game, The Abbot and The River? The 20th festival tile would be a must... But something more daring would be awesome.
Sad times for Carcassonne if finally they do it in this way


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 14, 2021, 02:05:26 PM
Yeah, Translated to English from the 999games link: "The packaging gets a beautiful, completely new design and becomes completely language-free."

The image of the rule booklet on the Hans Im Gluck linked page shows German language, so unless they are trying to say it will contain instructions for multiple languages (i.e. Will not need each country's publisher to translate before going on sale in each country), it does seem to be suggesting no text on the box.  Apart from Title and Author as can already clearly be seen..
 
I do at some point want to get a second set of base tiles so this set may well be the way I do it.  Especially if it does contain 'Festival 20' or something new.

The rules aren't part of the packaging.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PurpleMeeple on January 14, 2021, 03:22:08 PM
Yeah, Translated to English from the 999games link: "The packaging gets a beautiful, completely new design and becomes completely language-free."

The image of the rule booklet on the Hans Im Gluck linked page shows German language, so unless they are trying to say it will contain instructions for multiple languages (i.e. Will not need each country's publisher to translate before going on sale in each country), it does seem to be suggesting no text on the box.  Apart from Title and Author as can already clearly be seen..
 
I do at some point want to get a second set of base tiles so this set may well be the way I do it.  Especially if it does contain 'Festival 20' or something new.

The rules aren't part of the packaging.
Yeah that was part of my point. The other bit was speculation based on the likelihood of it being a poor translation..


Edit: That's probably still not very clear.  What I mean is I was agreeing with Fritz_Spinne that the wording appears to be referring to the box specifically and that the pictured instructions are clearly not 'language-free' or 'language independent' adding weight to that.   I was also speculating what 'language-free' or 'language independent' might possibly mean, if - as is often enough the case -  the original meaning of text was quite different to the web browser translation.

Ultimately I do think the wording is probably just implying that the box will have very little text on it but I cannot read the original Dutch. I only bothered speculating because either 'language-free' or 'language independent' are - in English anyway - odd ways to promote a game even if just talking about the box.  And while a clean looking back of the box may well be important to some, particularly on a special edition, having rules in more languages is possibly a slightly more important selling point ultimately.

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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 14, 2021, 04:47:56 PM
I compared the readable texts in the rules shown in the third picture with the German rules of the Base Game from 2014. They are the same word by word, also the page distribution and the layout of the images. HiG just updated the formatting style for example for the headlines and framed boxes.

Let's see if we get more pictures to see if it is more than a C2 base game in a box.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Willem on January 14, 2021, 11:54:04 PM
Language independent box is fairly easily accomplished.
Like with the wooden box for The City, just only have the title Carcassonne on it, and you're done.
Maybe a paper wrapper like the City had, but you can even leave that out.
(Just like how the €600+ euro Collectors edition is language independent)

With the rules shown being the normal base game rules, my hopes would be to have something more in there than just a nice box and new font for the headers...
But we all know we'll end up buying it anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 14, 2021, 11:55:23 PM
But we all know we'll end up buying it anyway  ;)


:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Vital Pluymers on January 15, 2021, 12:26:41 AM
But we all know we'll end up buying it anyway  ;)


:D

Not all of us  ;)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 15, 2021, 12:34:02 AM
Yeah, Translated to English from the 999games link: "The packaging gets a beautiful, completely new design and becomes completely language-free."

The image of the rule booklet on the Hans Im Gluck linked page shows German language, so unless they are trying to say it will contain instructions for multiple languages (i.e. Will not need each country's publisher to translate before going on sale in each country), it does seem to be suggesting no text on the box.  Apart from Title and Author as can already clearly be seen..
 
I do at some point want to get a second set of base tiles so this set may well be the way I do it.  Especially if it does contain 'Festival 20' or something new.

The rules aren't part of the packaging.

Yeah that was part of my point. The other bit was speculation based on the likelihood of it being a poor translation..

I don't think I was very clear that I was merely agreeing with you. Didn't want to sound like one of "those internet guys"! Apologies if my message wasn't taken as intended ;)

But we all know we'll end up buying it anyway  ;)

Very true. Despite having our hopes crushed with each "new and exclusive" edition of the game in terms of what isn't included, our disappointment is never enough to stop us from buying them!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 15, 2021, 01:27:33 AM
I wonder if there will be any writing on the back of the box  :o. Will that be language independent too.

Also if the packaging is language independent, how will they put my address label to ship it too me.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 15, 2021, 03:00:11 AM
Appart to 10th Anniversarry edition with Festival 10 mini expansion, which was available later as mini expansion...
Appart to Japanese buildings included in Carcassonne J version, which was available later as mini expansion...
Appart to Gingerbread included in Winter Edition Engish version, which was available as mini expansion...

I think, if there will be something special, it will be than available as mini expansion (if it will be mini expansion).

Appart to Big Box 2017 included Mini 1-7 in C2, which are still not available without big box...
Appart to Wheel of Fortune Carcassonne editional, which was published long time ago, which special tiles were not availalble separatelly...
Appart to Winter River which will not be available as mini expansion, due to last Winter edition was published 2012, so for HiG is better to sell New reedition with Winter River like publish separately River as mini...

I'm not sure, if possible exclusive content in 20th Anniversary edition will be available also as mini expansion or other separated product.

Anyway, if there will be Festival 20 with same titles as Festival 15 only with changed logo, it's not enough. Festival 15 is anyway still available on cundco.de and bgg and other eshops selling mini expansions.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Weetek23 on January 15, 2021, 04:25:18 AM
The details, albeit still scarce, that unveil about the Anniversary Edition, come to me with a dissapointment. It seems likely now that the big box will probably contain C2 basic game plus ... Anniversary 20? We may still exercise our fantasy but it seems to me now quite likely. Fancy language-independent edition does not thrill me at all - we are a very international bunch here but I guess that geographically specific editions are a concern to few. So not a great benefit to make an "international" box, albeit it looks "classy".
Depending on the extra content, I may be reluctant to buy this edition. I did not hesitate to buy the 1Oth anniversary editon that was released also in the Czech Republic for the sake of the beautiful box, attractive meeples and the Festival mini but already at that time, while I could justify this purchase to myself perfectly, it was much less obvious to my girlfriend who is absolutely not a collector mind. To gain a third basic game set would seem a nonsence now.
A fool I may be, I still hope that this will not be the whole thing and HiG will in the end commemorate such an important milestone as 20 years with something magnificent. The plural in the heading of the Anniversary products on their webpage still gives hope that there will be more.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 15, 2021, 09:35:36 AM
Well.
I checked rules for 10th anniversary edition.
In part with rules was used standard wooden meeples, but in game was transparent meeples.

Maybe this game will have extra meeples, maybe frozen meeples included whole 19 meeple set?

This would be nice ;-)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PurpleMeeple on January 15, 2021, 10:08:10 AM
Well.
I checked rules for 10th anniversary edition.
In part with rules was used standard wooden meeples, but in game was transparent meeples.

Maybe this game will have extra meeples, maybe frozen meeples included whole 19 meeple set?

This would be nice ;-)
Special meeples is a reasonable possibility given 10th anniversary set had them.  And the frozen meeple are quite new so that is also a possibility I guess but I would not hold my breath for them to include all the meeple from expansions that not in the box.

But yes it would be nice :)


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Gagoune on January 15, 2021, 04:05:36 PM
What about the base game with a mini 20th anniversary that are all the Spiel '14 to Spiel '20 Tiles ?  O:-)
Valuable present for collectioners, don't you think ?  :))
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 15, 2021, 04:44:49 PM
If the included the Spiel'21 tile, even better!  ;D

You would then have 8 Spiel tiles...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Gagoune on January 16, 2021, 03:53:34 AM
If the included the Spiel'21 tile, even better!  ;D

You would then have 8 Spiel tiles...
Yes, you're right !
It Will become the most useless expansion for Carcassonne !  >:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 16, 2021, 04:34:00 AM
That would mean HiG would not release the new box until October... >:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 16, 2021, 04:34:55 AM
Yes, you're right !
It Will become the most useless expansion for Carcassonne !  >:D

After Halflings, German Castles, and SpielDoch tiles maybe  >:D  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 16, 2021, 05:02:57 AM
Yes, you're right !
It Will become the most useless expansion for Carcassonne !  >:D

After Halflings, German Castles, and SpielDoch tiles maybe  >:D  ;D

Whaaaat? German castles useless???  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 16, 2021, 05:04:35 AM
I know you despise Halflings for their flaky rules... So I understand it.  ;)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 16, 2021, 05:06:38 AM
Spiel Doch! is everyone's favorite for the deep conceptual work involved and the seamless use of a watermark/symbol on their tiles.  >:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Gagoune on January 16, 2021, 09:35:08 AM
In the other Thread, Meepledrone suggests that the anniversary box could contain scoring tiles. I think it could be good to !

To decar : I've not played enough with Halflings yet, but I like it !  ^-^ The same for the German castles, with their bonus points !  O0 I don't get the "Spiel Doch" starting tiles...  ::)

What we know is that this box will get the base game, the River (I), and I assume the Abbot... But I don't think it will be enough for a 20th anniversary...  O:-)

If the are preparing an 11th exp., why not !  :))

And why not the russian promo ?  :))

But I would really like to get more C1 mini exp. in C2 style !  ;)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 16, 2021, 11:29:59 AM
Time for The Besiegers...  >:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Gagoune on January 16, 2021, 11:42:06 AM
Yes, why not ! And Little buildings, the Tunnel, the plague, etc.  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 16, 2021, 01:50:48 PM
Personally, what'd make me the happiest is WoF converted to C2!  :D
It's a really interesting game, a beautiful starting tile, and C2 would mean villages and so more compatibility with the tollkeepers (as WoF replaces the base game).
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Carcassonne93 on January 16, 2021, 01:57:02 PM
It would be a good ideea to be released as the 7th expansion, with 16 starting tiles (with the Wheel of Fortune itself), 16-20 new tiles with Wheel symbol and the big pink pig.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: cicerunner on January 16, 2021, 01:58:39 PM
Time for The Besiegers...  >:D
I just came here to say this!

Had a fun game* with my wife tonight and it prompted me to review all the expansions, C1 & C2, on WikiCarpedia. I've read them all before and so it didn't take long. Still very happy with my limited collection but if it existed in C2 there's just enough space for the six tiles of Besiegers. I like the way it messes with cities and farms. (Which the game I just played had a bit of too with the Barn.)

So, yes, back on the fantasy train. Besiegers in C2 please!! (Available later as a mini obviously, I'm not buying a pretty box.)

* base, start tile, Abbot, Abbey & Mayor (no abbeys, no wagons), Watchtowers
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 16, 2021, 01:58:52 PM
It would be a good ideea to be released as the 7th expansion, with 16 starting tiles (with the Wheel of Fortune itself), 16-20 new tiles with Wheel symbol and the big pink pig.

Poor catapult  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 16, 2021, 02:47:05 PM
Wheel of fortune as large expansion.
It is great idea.
But large expansion except Tower have usually three of four new mini expansions
WoF had just one.

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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 19, 2021, 05:26:31 AM
I expect we'll know some more next week.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 21, 2021, 03:06:47 AM
On Discord server by HiG was announced on question by @danisthirty
[cite]Hi! I'm really looking forward to seeing the new 20th anniversary edition of Carcassonne. Are you able to share if it will include any special content rather than just the basic game? If not, when will more news be available? Thanks :slight_smile:[/cite]

Freddy | HiG Spiele answered:
[cite]Maybe we will have some news at the end of January on https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/special/brandnew (https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/special/brandnew)[/cite]

For english speakers
https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/en/special/brandnew (https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/en/special/brandnew)

And another important information: From 25th January

So we will see ;-)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: inigomartinez on January 21, 2021, 05:02:55 AM
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The premium box contains the base game, as well as the mini-expansions “the river” (with 5 brand new river tiles), “the abbot” and an “anniversary-mini-expansion” (consisting of 15 never-before-seen tiles).
All tiles are adorned with UV-print and detailed easter-eggs are a special asset for all fans. On top of it all, we gave also added Meeple costumes in sticker form, and improved the inlay as well as the rules.
Nevertheless, all contents are completely compatible with the existing and future world of Carcassonne.

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Available since/from:
28.05.2020

(https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/var/site/storage/images/_aliases/1024w/9/5/2/0/350259-1-eng-GB/Jub_Plaettchen_Preview.jpg)
(https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/var/site/storage/images/_aliases/1024w/0/6/2/0/350260-1-eng-GB/Meeple_Sticker_Preview.jpg)
(https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/var/site/storage/images/_aliases/1024w/1/6/2/0/350261-1-eng-GB/CC_JUB_Regel_800x533.jpg)

Source: https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/en/brandnew2/carcassonne-anniversary-edition
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 21, 2021, 05:07:26 AM
As I did already say here:
https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/en/brandnew2/carcassonne-anniversary-edition

Wow, the new tiles are looking really good, but... AGAIN they did cut buildings at the edge of city tiles?  >:(

Those tiles looks really nice, but how did they forget how to make tiles without cutting the design?  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 21, 2021, 05:10:20 AM
You were checking the same thing as me... Chopped buildings on the edges seems a trend now...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 21, 2021, 05:20:49 AM
You were checking the same thing as me... Chopped buildings on the edges seems a trend now...

That's a shame...

But at least, this edition may be interesting and added to my wishlist, as it has new things:

Also meeple costumes and new rulebook, but I'm not interested in that...

And the fact that "all contents are completely compatible with the existing and future world of Carcassonne" tends to think they're not going to release CIII soon !  :D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 21, 2021, 05:37:53 AM
Haha.
It seems, that it will hava same problem like Peasant revold, that tiles will not have correct side with cutting space.
Those tiles was not redesign of Festiva 10/Festival 15.
So it can be
1. Brand new expansion with new rules - working 3D generated tiles used for Peasant revolt didn't have expansion mark
2. It will be graphical addition to existing tiles in some subset of stanrard 72 tiles (so some subset of 6k tiles from 6 to 72)
3. Just new tiles with 20-th Anniversary design like it was in Winter edition which has 12 tiles with animals without any rules.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 21, 2021, 05:39:05 AM
  • 5 brand new river tiles.

Why 5? It has to be 6 or 12 (when printing 6 tiles per sheet like standard tile distribution) or 4 or 8 (when printing 4 tiles per sheet like 10th anniversary)
Depends on tile printing ;-)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 21, 2021, 05:41:30 AM
It's look like they lost original DTP files.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: davide on January 21, 2021, 06:03:22 AM
You were checking the same thing as me... Chopped buildings on the edges seems a trend now...

That's a shame...

But at least, this edition may be interesting and added to my wishlist, as it has new things:
  • 5 brand new river tiles.
  • anniversary-mini-expansion (consisting of 15 never-before-seen tiles)
  • Every tiles adorned with UV-print and detailed easter-eggs

Also meeple costumes and new rulebook, but I'm not interested in that...

And the fact that "all contents are completely compatible with the existing and future world of Carcassonne" tends to think they're not going to release CIII soon !  :D
Hi,corinthiens13,where are you seen those tiles?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 21, 2021, 06:03:32 AM
inigomartinez - Thanks for posting here so clearly.  :(y)  +1 merit from me.

Looks like a great addition to the Carcassonne family.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 21, 2021, 06:07:34 AM
Hi,corinthiens13,where are you seen those tiles?

Here  ;)
https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/en/brandnew2/carcassonne-anniversary-edition (https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/en/brandnew2/carcassonne-anniversary-edition)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 21, 2021, 06:08:04 AM
And another important information: From 25th January

So it was today (21.1.2021) nice date.

Anyway publishing date is 258th May 2021 (not 2020 as mentioned before ;-D)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 21, 2021, 06:13:12 AM
Looks like a great addition to the Carcassonne family.

I agree. The content certainly sounds worthwhile. Looking forward to hopefully getting my hands on this as long as it isn't too limited and is available in the UK!

Anyway publishing date is 25th May 2021 (not 2020 as mentioned before ;-D)

Very good of them to publish something on our kittens' first birthday! :) :(y)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Fritz_Spinne on January 21, 2021, 06:18:22 AM
Maybe the five brand new river tiles and the 15 20th anniversary tiles are on 1 sheet - together these are 20 tiles. I think the 5 river tiles should also be anniversary tiles ...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 21, 2021, 06:18:45 AM
I've always thought that UV/gloss tiles would be nice, uplifting the roads and buildings.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Vital Pluymers on January 21, 2021, 06:40:01 AM
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...and detailed easter-eggs are a special asset for all fans.

What do they mean with detailed easter-eggs?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 21, 2021, 06:42:20 AM
Looking at the images, I'm hoping for more Wimmelbilder style components. As opposed to references to Stone Age and other HiG games.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 21, 2021, 07:40:32 AM
20 years of carcassonne wasted in an edition that surely the box is very beautiful but the interior is not remarkable ... They have also released the festival 20 hahaha Everything completely predictable. Stickers for meeples again?
I still have some hope for the rest of the 20th anniversary stuff ... Will I have to wait for a really special 100th anniversary limited edition? Or will it remain the same with festival 100?


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 21, 2021, 07:45:48 AM
Seems like you're on the wrong forum DrMeeple.  HiG is very aware of people's financial burdens and the value for money that their games provide.  I see this as a very nice set for those who collect everything, and potentially families or new comers to Carcassonne.  It's a shame you feel so negatively about it.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: oldbonz on January 21, 2021, 08:22:42 AM
I have the impression that for some it smacks of disappointment
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 21, 2021, 08:27:36 AM
20 years of carcassonne wasted in an edition that surely the box is very beautiful but the interior is not remarkable ... They have also released the festival 20 hahaha Everything completely predictable. Stickers for meeples again?
I still have some hope for the rest of the 20th anniversary stuff ... Will I have to wait for a really special 100th anniversary limited edition? Or will it remain the same with festival 100?

I have the impression that for some it smacks of disappointment

Admittedly I've only been playing Carcassonne since July 2012, but compared to most other special releases I've seen over that time I'd say that this one is actually quite remarkable if the contents list we've seen so far are as described. It would be unremarkable if it was just a special edition of the basic game with no additional content, or maybe a re-release of something we already knew about.

It might not meet some of the expectations that some people had, but most of those were never going to happen for various reasons that you can find if you explore back through some of the previous threads we've had here whenever anything new is released. With this in mind, I'm quite surprised that it includes a new version of the River ("River 4" or "River 1c"?) with extra tiles AND a new mini expansion. The special meeples are a bit of a novelty, maybe not worth much to those who are looking specifically for new content but a nice touch nonetheless. And the special finish on the tiles and hidden easter eggs? Hmm. I don't know. But I'm intrigued!

To say that it's 20 years of Carcassonne wasted is quite a big thing, and potentially quite hurtful to the people who have worked on bringing this new box to market. We all had/ have different expectations; just because yours weren't met doesn't mean it wasn't a worthwhile venture or something that the majority of fans might enjoy owning.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: cicerunner on January 21, 2021, 08:37:49 AM
  • 5 brand new river tiles.

Why 5? It has to be 6 or 12 (when printing 6 tiles per sheet like standard tile distribution) or 4 or 8 (when printing 4 tiles per sheet like 10th anniversary)
Not exactly sure why 5 specifically but together with the 15 tile anniversary-mini-expansion that makes 20 in total and 10. Under The Big Top was also 20 tiles.

I can't remember now what the punch board arrangement was for that when I opened it. Can anyone else?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 21, 2021, 08:40:05 AM
20 years of carcassonne wasted in an edition that surely the box is very beautiful but the interior is not remarkable ... They have also released the festival 20 hahaha Everything completely predictable. Stickers for meeples again?
I still have some hope for the rest of the 20th anniversary stuff ... Will I have to wait for a really special 100th anniversary limited edition? Or will it remain the same with festival 100?

I have the impression that for some it smacks of disappointment

Admittedly I've only been playing Carcassonne since July 2012, but compared to most other special releases I've seen over that time I'd say that this one is actually quite remarkable if the contents list we've seen so far are as described. It would be unremarkable if it was just a special edition of the basic game with no additional content, or maybe a re-release of something we already knew about.

It might not meet some of the expectations that some people had, but most of those were never going to happen for various reasons that you can find if you explore back through some of the previous threads we've had here whenever anything new is released. With this in mind, I'm quite surprised that it includes a new version of the River ("River 4" or "River 1c"?) with extra tiles AND a new mini expansion. The special meeples are a bit of a novelty, maybe not worth much to those who are looking specifically for new content but a nice touch nonetheless. And the special finish on the tiles and hidden easter eggs? Hmm. I don't know. But I'm intrigued!

To say that it's 20 years of Carcassonne wasted is quite a big thing, and potentially quite hurtful to the people who have worked on bringing this new box to market. We all had/ have different expectations; just because yours weren't met doesn't mean it wasn't a worthwhile venture or something that the majority of fans might enjoy owning.

And we may like it or not, but apparently, the tiles have a really nice look with a lot of details !  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: oldbonz on January 21, 2021, 08:45:55 AM
to be or not to be a meeple, that is the question
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 21, 2021, 08:59:39 AM
All these additions and new treats sound awesome, even if it is a tweaked base game with a new mini expansion. HiG has always tried to innovate with Carcassonne since its inception. Starting with the the gameplay and the invention of the meeple. A board game without a proper board. All this turned it into an instant classic  ;)

Some later additions have been memorable and some others Razzie Award winners (The Catapult anyone?)... But if you don't take risks and try new things, you'll never learn or improve.

Eveyone has their preferences, but I agree with Dan about separating personal taste from the appreciation of the hard work HiG are doing in order to celebrate their huge hit with so much anticipation and great care.

DrMeeple may be dissappointed because he was dislikes C2 (although I think he likes the Spiel tiles >:D) and he was hoping for a C3 version with an artwork closer to C1... Sorry, too soon for an artwork update.

But I think that everyone will appreciate the results of all these efforts in the end. I just wish HiG the best and hope that they keep us happy and gladly surprised with their new Cacassonne releases for many years to come.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: carlium on January 21, 2021, 09:15:42 AM
Yeah those tiles look pretty nice, I want to see the new details in River 4  >:D >:D  I hope ZMan will be able to distribute it in the U.S.

About new cutting issues, I think those are minor issues that do not diminish the work of all people involved in HiG. BTW, after talking with Freddy and Johannes, they let me know that people in HiG are aware of those issues and they are discussing about them.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: oldbonz on January 21, 2021, 09:19:08 AM
we can be sure that the tiles will be successful
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: cicerunner on January 21, 2021, 09:29:10 AM
Reflecting on the content as a whole I'm actually pleasantly surprised at the level of appeal for the niche end of the market that we represent as a community. If I remember correctly I anticipated something like, "Base game, River, Abbot, Festival 20 and perhaps a small mini expansion at best." when posting previously in this thread.

So relative to that, on a scale from -5 "thoroughly disappointed" to plus 5 "absolutely amazed!" I'm feeling like:

Base game, River, Abbot : 0
'Festival 20' : +1 - it has 5 tiles more than both previous iterations
'River 1c' : +3 - 5 new tiles which presumably will integrate nicely (artwork and gameplay features) with the standard River ... Maybe a fork, a lake and 3 others?
'special finish' : -1 and that's generous. If it makes the tiles somewhat aesthetically incompatible with other content that seems like a shame. If a new mainstream player starts with this edition - and to my mind, that has to be the primary goal of the publisher here - they are going to be disappointed when they buy an expansion and it's different.
stickers : (-3) because for me they are awful and totally go against the aesthetic strength of the meeple as an iconic design
'Easter eggs' : 0 - these don't bother me either way. I'll pay no more attention to them than I do highwaymen hiding in bushes or pigsties.

Overall it's a break even on what I was expecting. And if I ignore the stickers, which I could if I bought* a copy by just throwing them away, it's a slight net positive; Slightly more appealing to our niche community than I hoped.

* I won't, and never did intend to, buy a copy. If the River & mini turn out to be interesting and later appear at cundco they'll be useful to put a Spiele tile qualifying order together. ;)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 21, 2021, 09:37:51 AM
And more importantly:

https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/de/brandnew2/ultimate-railroads
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 21, 2021, 11:59:54 AM
HiG is very aware of people's financial burdens and the value for money that their games provide.

And that's why they don't risk and do the same as always. I understand the business mentality but we are talking about 20 years of carcassonne. Honestly with what is known about the edition:
Sincerely, do you think it's something that has completely surprised you? or is it not familiar to the above edited?
I understand that there are people who like to buy the same or very similar with little margin of variation over and over, but understand that there are people who expect something truly amazing when it comes to such important dates. If you think that everyone loves this new edition except me, I think you haven't read other comments...
Many people aren't going to buy it directly. In my case, I probably bought it for what these 20 years mean, rather than for the edition itself.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 21, 2021, 12:04:39 PM
20 years of carcassonne wasted in an edition that surely the box is very beautiful but the interior is not remarkable ... They have also released the festival 20 hahaha Everything completely predictable. Stickers for meeples again?
I still have some hope for the rest of the 20th anniversary stuff ... Will I have to wait for a really special 100th anniversary limited edition? Or will it remain the same with festival 100?

I have the impression that for some it smacks of disappointment
Admittedly I've only been playing Carcassonne since July 2012, but compared to most other special releases I've seen over that time I'd say that this one is actually quite remarkable if the contents list we've seen so far are as described. It would be unremarkable if it was just a special edition of the basic game with no additional content, or maybe a re-release of something we already knew about.

It might not meet some of the expectations that some people had, but most of those were never going to happen for various reasons that you can find if you explore back through some of the previous threads we've had here whenever anything new is released. With this in mind, I'm quite surprised that it includes a new version of the River ("River 4" or "River 1c"?) with extra tiles AND a new mini expansion. The special meeples are a bit of a novelty, maybe not worth much to those who are looking specifically for new content but a nice touch nonetheless. And the special finish on the tiles and hidden easter eggs? Hmm. I don't know. But I'm intrigued!

To say that it's 20 years of Carcassonne wasted is quite a big thing, and potentially quite hurtful to the people who have worked on bringing this new box to market. We all had/ have different expectations; just because yours weren't met doesn't mean it wasn't a worthwhile venture or something that the majority of fans might enjoy owning.

There are still things to be announced ... Maybe some really exclusive limited edition?
In my case, I've been collecting carcassonne since it came out in 2001. For dates as important as a 20th anniversary, at least I ask for something really memorable, it's not asking too much ...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 21, 2021, 12:12:54 PM
HiG is very aware of people's financial burdens and the value for money that their games provide.

And that's why they don't risk and do the same as always. I understand the business mentality but we are talking about 20 years of carcassonne. Honestly with what is known about the edition:
Sincerely, do you think it's something that has completely surprised you? or is it not familiar to the above edited?
I understand that there are people who like to buy the same or very similar with little margin of variation over and over, but understand that there are people who expect something truly amazing when it comes to such important dates. If you think that everyone loves this new edition except me, I think you haven't read other comments...
Many people aren't going to buy it directly. In my case, I probably bought it for what these 20 years mean, rather than for the edition itself.

Too bad they didn't release golden tiles and sell them for free with a 20 euros order  ;D

Honestly, for me, having every tiles with a much more detailed design, easter eggs, a lot of small added details (like the ribbons on the walls, different scenes inside the tiles...etc), but still CII compatible is something truly amazing! And an awesome work!

Some may not like it, but that's not a reason for spending time to complain... After all, if we all complained about everything we do not like in this world, we'd never stop!
Enjoy and keep the fun in the things where we find it, and leave the rest, that makes a much happier life  ;)  :yellow-meeple:

And thanks HiG for your work and this amazing game that provided a lot of enjoyable family and friends time, congratulations for keeping the good work so long! (well, apart from cutting buildings at the tile's edges  ;D )
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 21, 2021, 12:28:44 PM
There are still things to be announced ... Maybe some really exclusive limited edition?
In my case, I've been collecting carcassonne since it came out in 2001. For dates as important as a 20th anniversary, at least I ask for something really memorable, it's not asking too much ...

I believe there are still some of these (https://cundco.de/fanartikel/241/limitierte-sonderedition-carcassonne-im-mittelalterlichen-buch-design-alte-edition-de?c=29) left if you're looking for something exclusive and limited edition?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Willem on January 21, 2021, 01:08:00 PM
I quite like it.
The box looks a bit fancier, and the contents are ok.
They seem to always try to make sure new people can get into the game, and something extra for collectors like us. And it becomes more and more difficult to come up with something like that.
Remember some exclusive expansions that were first only available in like a box with a base game (Besiegers, CC1, even the minis in the new art)

I'll be buying it (unless they price it like the Special Limited edition, but I doubt that), and look forward to it  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 21, 2021, 01:09:18 PM
Well said Willem  :(y)

We may want to consider bundling a shipment to the UK  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on January 21, 2021, 01:21:24 PM
There are still things to be announced ... Maybe some really exclusive limited edition?
In my case, I've been collecting carcassonne since it came out in 2001. For dates as important as a 20th anniversary, at least I ask for something really memorable, it's not asking too much ...

I believe there are still some of these (https://cundco.de/fanartikel/241/limitierte-sonderedition-carcassonne-im-mittelalterlichen-buch-design-alte-edition-de?c=29) left if you're looking for something exclusive and limited edition?
Does anyone remember the 15th anniversary edition of catan? To give an example of a really spectacular special edition. Carcassonne would have to have his edition in a wooden box, with the wooden tiles, some meeples with some cool engravings on them, all in a kind of deluxe edition in a handmade way that transports you to the medieval age ... Is it too much to ask? I don't think I'm saying anything impossible to do ...


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 21, 2021, 03:19:20 PM
Well said Willem  :(y)

We may want to consider bundling a shipment to the UK  ;D

Yes please. I'll put myself down for two copies! O:-)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 21, 2021, 11:29:10 PM
Anyway publishing date is 25th May 2021 (not 2020 as mentioned before ;-D)

Very good of them to publish something on our kittens' first birthday! :) :(y)

Sorry to disappoint you, but thst site says it will be available 28th May 2020. We missed it!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 21, 2021, 11:31:49 PM
Anyway publishing date is 25th May 2021 (not 2020 as mentioned before ;-D)

Very good of them to publish something on our kittens' first birthday! :) :(y)

Sorry to disappoint you, but thst site says it will be available 28th May 2020. We missed it!

WHAT?! Why would they publish something new like this when the kittens were only 3 days old? That's just stupid...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Willem on January 21, 2021, 11:38:08 PM
It was all on purpose!
They distracted you with 3 day old kittens, and now the anniversary edition is all sold out....
It even worked on all of us, as we've all missed the chance
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 21, 2021, 11:54:16 PM
So cunning... :'(
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 22, 2021, 12:10:18 AM
Yes, Moritz has devised an evil master plan.  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 22, 2021, 12:11:08 AM
  • 5 brand new river tiles.

Why 5? It has to be 6 or 12 (when printing 6 tiles per sheet like standard tile distribution) or 4 or 8 (when printing 4 tiles per sheet like 10th anniversary)
Not exactly sure why 5 specifically but together with the 15 tile anniversary-mini-expansion that makes 20 in total and 10. Under The Big Top was also 20 tiles.

I can't remember now what the punch board arrangement was for that when I opened it. Can anyone else?

Tihs is true, but 4 place for tiles was used for animal tokens (4x4 = 16 tokens), right?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 22, 2021, 12:37:20 AM
I suspect someone bought them all, will sell half on ebay for reasonable price and cut the other half into halves and bury half the halves in the desert.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 22, 2021, 12:41:54 AM
I suspect someone bought them all, will sell half on ebay for reasonable price and cut the other half into halves and bury half the halves in the desert.

And half of the half that sell on eBay will be resold here for unreasonable prices...

I do wonder whether the half that are halved will still be considered whole if they're used to complete a cloister though? ???
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on January 22, 2021, 12:59:37 AM
Not on my watch Dan... not on my watch
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Willem on January 22, 2021, 01:07:28 AM
Carcassonne scalpers!  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 22, 2021, 03:47:46 AM
Sorry to disappoint you, but thst site says it will be available 28th May 2020. We missed it!

I've checked the forum calendar to see if I could find anything that this special date coincides with and it does make me wonder whether they're deliberately releasing it then to recognise jcronin72's 49th birthday? He hasn't visited the forum since October 2015, and he's never posted anything either, but this might be because he doesn't appear to own the game or any expansions (according to his profile) so he wasn't the obvious choice by any means. I can see their logic though.

It's also some guy named "Decar"'s birthday on the same day, so it's a good day for Carcassonne whatever the reason...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PurpleMeeple on January 22, 2021, 03:50:34 AM
While not quite what many of us were hoping it could be, it is I think roughly the equivalent of what most of us actually expected.

Personally I'm quite pleased in fact, while I have an almost complete CII collection, I currently still only have 1 base set of tiles so with the 20 new tiles this is definitely on my want to buy list. Though I will also be keeping an eye out for the "further announcements" just in case there is an even more limited/special set that might be of interest.

Well said Willem  :(y)

We may want to consider bundling a shipment to the UK  ;D

Yes please. I'll put myself down for two copies! O:-)

If this happens I'd really like to be in on that too please!


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...all tiles are adorned with UV-print...
 

This bit intrigued me, although as far as I can tell after some quick googling they are essentially referring to the printing technique.

What it does though is give me another idea for quick tile sorting that makes my previous ideas - while still cool - seem well over engineered  ::)   The new idea simply requires some clear/invisible UV/Black light ink,  a UV/Black light torch (so far so good I already have on of those and the ink not difficult to get) and - for the best look - around 35 to 40ish custom rubber stamps in the shape of the expansion icons (natch :o but maybe the cost of them could be off set by offering a stamping service or hiring them out  :)) ).  That way to quickly pick out the expansion tiles that do not stand out on their own for whatever reason you simply need to shine the UV torch over the tiles!

This is something HiG could potentially do quite easily if they wanted, pre-print the invisible-unless-under-UV expansion icons on the tiles and recommend a UV torch or even include a little one in a future Big Box bundle.  Of course if they did that now I do hope they'd credit me accordingly - despite their public disclaimer to the contrary!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 22, 2021, 05:18:51 AM
I sent an email to HiG about the wrong availability date... They replied that they will update the date shortly.

Fear not... No one has a copy hidden in a time capsule yet.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 22, 2021, 10:23:15 AM
Availability date updated already!  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: MeepleFan on January 27, 2021, 12:11:27 PM
News from HiG: https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/news/brandnew-neuheiten-2021.html?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Grafik-Post&utm_campaign=Somengo&utm_content=210127-FBGrafik-News-2021-PPA&fbclid=IwAR01O-WApzjsvbXYj-5f7pX2ta-qfZMClYfZL4udlFv3fdGpHenHqr0RAa4

Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on January 27, 2021, 12:25:03 PM
English version also avialable:

https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/news/brandnew-neuheiten-2021.html (https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/news/brandnew-neuheiten-2021.html)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: supertopix on January 27, 2021, 12:42:13 PM
I want both :-)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on January 27, 2021, 12:54:35 PM
I want both :-)

The German details AND the English details?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Whaleyland on January 27, 2021, 02:42:48 PM
Ugh. There's a good chance that I will be buying the anniversary edition and the new Winter Edition (with River). Shipping alone will be a fortune from Europe, though, and I hope they package it all well. I bought a Big Box 6 for my work last year but I still don't have a copy of Carc 2.0 for myself yet, so this seems like as good a time as ever.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: supertopix on January 27, 2021, 03:07:14 PM
I want both :-)

The German details AND the English details?
UR & CAnniversary
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: t2k on January 30, 2021, 10:59:17 PM
Proceed to the link below.  It shows details of the box art and rule sheet somewhat changed with scrollwork.  But the tiles on the rule sheet look the same as the 2014 version.  Could this be a packaging change only.  Someone tell me if I am missing something.

https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/carcassonne20/jubilaeums-produkte.html#content
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 30, 2021, 11:21:23 PM
Hi,

We had more informations here:

https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/en/product-preview/games/carcassonne-anniversary-edition (https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/en/product-preview/games/carcassonne-anniversary-edition)

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The premium box contains the base game, as well as the mini-expansions “the river” (with 5 brand new river tiles), “the abbot” and an “anniversary-mini-expansion” (consisting of 15 never-before-seen tiles).
All tiles are adorned with UV-print and detailed easter-eggs are a special asset for all fans. On top of it all, we gave also added Meeple costumes in sticker form, and improved the inlay as well as the rules.
Nevertheless, all contents are completely compatible with the existing and future world of Carcassonne. 
  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 30, 2021, 11:22:00 PM
Have a look at the picture of the new tiles  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Dkmvs on February 02, 2021, 04:49:41 AM
Except the new tiles, I miss something that makes it a collectors item. Stickers are funny but no extra worth imo. The box.. Yeah most of us have combined all expansions in one big box, so nothing to gain there. They should’ve added another ‘special’ meeple, and use the 15 cards as a new expansion to go with it. It is because of their 20th anniversary!

So for me, unless the price is right, there’s too little to make it worth buying. Sadly.

I do hope they’ll announce more but as it’s now, there won’t be anything ‘special’ that’ll convince me, else they would’ve already announced it.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on February 02, 2021, 08:19:34 AM

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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on February 02, 2021, 03:53:18 PM
Hi,

We had more informations here:

https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/en/product-preview/games/carcassonne-anniversary-edition (https://www.spielwarenmesse.de/en/product-preview/games/carcassonne-anniversary-edition)

 :yellow-meeple:

Nice, release date May 28, 2021. That's a Friday. This is my first rodeo. Is Cundco the best place to buy?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on February 02, 2021, 03:59:10 PM
Nice, release date May 28, 2021. That's a Friday. This is my first rodeo. Is Cundco the best place to buy?

I don't think anyone knows for sure yet where it will be available, but Cundco certainly seems like a safe bet until we know more.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on February 02, 2021, 04:06:54 PM
Except the new tiles, I miss something that makes it a collectors item. Stickers are funny but no extra worth imo. The box.. Yeah most of us have combined all expansions in one big box, so nothing to gain there. They should’ve added another ‘special’ meeple, and use the 15 cards as a new expansion to go with it. It is because of their 20th anniversary!

So for me, unless the price is right, there’s too little to make it worth buying. Sadly.

I do hope they’ll announce more but as it’s now, there won’t be anything ‘special’ that’ll convince me, else they would’ve already announced it.

I understand, but you are looking for craftsmanship and quality of yesteryear. These days, business models are all about selling more. So, they can sell the 20th Anniversary Edition in May and then another Big Box that incorporates some of the new features a few months later...that way people buy 2 instead of 1. Because those who are likely to buy the anniversary edition are likely to buy both anyways. Big boxes buyers are less likely to buy both. It's just business. Sadly.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on February 02, 2021, 04:10:51 PM
English version also avialable:

https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/news/brandnew-neuheiten-2021.html (https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/news/brandnew-neuheiten-2021.html)

For the meeples...I understand the red knight. I understand the yellow farmer/herder. I don't get the blue lumberjack. Maybe a new twist?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on February 03, 2021, 09:10:57 AM
A little discussion about the UV-print on the tiles. I did not know what this meant beforehand, and had to look it up.
If I understand it correctly, UV-printing is a printing method utilizing ultra-violet light source as means of curing the ink instantly after appliction. This should result in much finer detail and sharpness, because the applied ink dots do not have enough time to spread out too much and get blurry.

If anyone is well familiar with UV-printing and has some useful or interesting information to share, feel free to let us know!

PS: When I first read the sentence: "All tiles are adorned with UV-print and detailed easter-eggs are a special asset for all fans", I thought there would be hidden easter-eggs on the tiles, only visible under UV-light  ;D Well too bad :-[
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: carlium on February 03, 2021, 01:10:15 PM
When I read that, I thought that was something like this:
https://www.primoprint.com/blog/what-is-spot-uv-printing-2/

Marks with different gloss levels.  I found pretty interesting examples when I  googled "uv spot business cards"

Nevertheless, I am not sure if that is what they call UV-printing.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on February 03, 2021, 01:20:49 PM
I think this is referring to UV-spot printing. It's usually done on box covers or book covers, to make some of it shiny.

Given tiles are already shiny, I suspect it'll be applied across the whole service, making them more durable:

For example from this site, there's a video:
https://www.boardgamesmaker.com/customized/custom-game-tiles.html

Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on February 03, 2021, 03:50:49 PM
Hmm... perhaps it is both  ??? More durable tiles and greater detail.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Whaleyland on February 03, 2021, 05:14:59 PM
Spot UV is great visually. It can really make features pop. But assuming they spot UV treat cities and roads and monasteries, you may be able to actually feel the UV spots if using a draw bag. They usually are smooth areas compared to the linen style of a normal Carcassonne tile. I am certainly intrigued to see what these actually look and feel like. But I'm much more interested in the new tiles.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on February 17, 2021, 12:00:04 AM
I'm having a thought about the 15 new tiles for the special expansion...beyond the extended river tiles. So, the picture shows that it looks like there will be some festival tiles. The last two festivals both added 10 tiles each, but the description says 15....so maybe 10 festival plus something else??? -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on February 17, 2021, 04:43:52 AM
For anybody in the UK interested in the 20th anniversary edition (or Ultimate RailRoads) from Z-Man games, I messaged them via Facebook.

Above all I wanted to get some idea of whether their release schedule is likely to match what's expected from HiG, as I'd hate to miss out because I'm waiting for a UK release or find out that it's only available in America as we do seem to be a bit of a blind spot for them lately.

I asked:
"Hello. Do you guys have an anticipated release date/ price for the Carcassonne 20th anniversary edition and Ultimate Railroads boxes in the UK yet?"

They replied:
"We're still working on files for both and don't have a specific release time. Carcassonne 20th should release sometime this summer and Ultimate Railroads will be sometime this fall. We'll post on social when the inventory is available!"

Hope this is of interest.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Willem on February 17, 2021, 07:17:46 AM
Ok, it would be good if there is a UK release!
So sometime this summer and fall... It's a bit unclear, but I guess it saves us the stress of looking whether or not to get a version from mainland Europe
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on February 18, 2021, 06:11:29 PM
Well finally, I would say. We didn't have a proper anniversary edition, nor new anniversary content since 2011.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on February 19, 2021, 01:03:16 AM
I've moved speculations into:

http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=5068.0
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on February 26, 2021, 10:05:50 AM
Some new images
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 26, 2021, 10:24:17 AM
Some new images

With new tiles  :D

And the river with city is a new configuration  :yellow-meeple:

Where are these images from?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PurpleMeeple on February 26, 2021, 10:25:47 AM
Some new images
That is quite nice actually, I like it.


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on February 26, 2021, 10:25:58 AM
Came from Mobius's Twitter feed

Apparently the design is 'common' in all countries.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on February 26, 2021, 10:55:30 AM
Looks awesome! Hey, new river tile on the right!!!  ;D

They wanted a language neutral box, right?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: oldbonz on February 26, 2021, 11:03:28 AM
the river is the river "l'Aude" which passes at the foot of Carcassonne
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on February 26, 2021, 12:58:10 PM
That looks amazing! Every single tile seems to be slightly updated!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: totec55 on February 26, 2021, 02:13:40 PM
I like the subtle differences with the flags and banners. Looking forward to seeing the other four new river tiles!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Whaleyland on February 26, 2021, 02:24:50 PM
Some passing observations:
* The soldiers, Robbers (?), and Monastery all have banners with 20 on them
* The farm has a meeple banner on it
* There seems to be some new embankment details on the left River tile, as well as a fountain or well
* All of the city tiles have new blue banners hanging from the walls (some with a City symbol)
* The two large Cities and the new River/City tile also seems to have banquet tables
* The Carcassonne logo on the back is the normal font
* None of the tiles (including the new one) have watermarks
* The tiles have rounded corners, which is slightly odd
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on February 26, 2021, 02:30:45 PM
Yes, that is what I meant. Thanks for writing it out Whaleyland  :(y)
Those are no doubt the easter eggs they told us about. Though it is somewhat ridiculous for the robbers to announce their hiding spot witha flag  :))
No matter. I am just happy I was right about it not being just another festival.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on February 26, 2021, 02:33:11 PM
Love the poll! -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Gagoune on February 26, 2021, 03:16:31 PM
Thanks for the pictures Decar !  :(y)
I think the banner on all tiles is to identify them when playing with a standard edition...  ;)
But the new river corner has 3 separate fields !
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DaFees on February 26, 2021, 07:54:54 PM
So…. Because there will be at least one new River tile will we as a community begin referring to this as the River IV (4)?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Willem on February 27, 2021, 01:32:52 AM
Little video on Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=930748717733353
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on February 27, 2021, 02:23:17 AM
HiG have also updated their 20th Anniversary Edition pages to include the video...

https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/carcassonne20/jubilaeums-produkte.html#content (https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/carcassonne20/jubilaeums-produkte.html#content)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on February 27, 2021, 05:28:14 AM
I guess now we see which parts of the box are shiny.
And while it is only the box so far, the video would imply that certain features of the tile are also highlighted by UV-print, just like we suspected!
Specifically: the River, the 20 flags, the easter eggs added to this version.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on February 27, 2021, 09:25:05 AM
Now we know what they think about UV print.
UV paint used on river or some parts of cities.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on February 27, 2021, 09:49:03 AM
Any chance that the backs of the cards will be the royal blue and gold lettering in the center of the diamond rather than grey? -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on February 27, 2021, 09:51:49 AM
We don't know, but I doubt it. They wouldn't compromise compatibility.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on February 27, 2021, 10:17:24 AM
Any chance that the backs of the cards will be the royal blue and gold lettering in the center of the diamond rather than grey? -  :pink-meeple:

It's 99% sure they won't, as we know that "all contents are completely compatible with the existing and future world of Carcassonne". :yellow-meeple:

Changing the back of the tiles would totally break compatibility with other expansions (unless playing with a bag, but with a bag, the UV print would make the tiles recognizable).
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on February 27, 2021, 10:26:33 AM
They kept the tiles compatible for v1 and v2. Would be surprising if they did change the backs!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on February 27, 2021, 11:48:07 AM
Very wise, very wise.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: totec55 on March 03, 2021, 02:11:20 PM
I received my Z-Man "Hunters and Gatherers" in the US today. Talk about a tease ;D:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Miwe1966 on March 03, 2021, 03:52:19 PM
Brilliant, I'd frame that 8)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 04, 2021, 06:35:07 PM
From CarcF:

(https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/download/file.php?id=11706&t=1)

"This is what a double card with the source of the river will look like!"

- :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 04, 2021, 07:50:25 PM
Can you provide a link to the source?

Good to see the gloss spot in action on tiles...oooh
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 04, 2021, 07:52:58 PM
Can you provide a link to the source?


https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=5262&p=72058#p72057
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Whaleyland on March 04, 2021, 09:26:08 PM
I hope that's just an overly stylised image because the river water looks like a really bad Photoshop embossing filter. And I'm not a fan of the huge 20 on top of the hill. I like the concept, though. If this is real, it seems to suggest that one of the new River tiles will be a second lake tile (or something equivalent). The real question is: does this count as one or two tiles in the "5 new River tiles" number?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on March 05, 2021, 12:59:40 AM
What do you think? Those cities are very full of houses, aren't they?

Yes indeed... City segments are bursting with houses... An overpopulation problem all of a sudden?  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on March 05, 2021, 01:08:46 AM
What do you think? Those cities are very full of houses, aren't they?

Yes indeed... City segments are bursting with houses... An overpopulation problem all of a sudden?  :o

Everybody moved there to play Carcassonne.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 05, 2021, 01:18:16 AM
Seems like the catapult has made a return too..

And also an elephant, a reference to Safari no doubt.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: coldhands on March 05, 2021, 01:46:31 AM
Oh my.....

I take a few month break and Hell froze over....

Sticker for the Meeple.... Could get some new younger child to play the game. (but I will not use it, if I buy it)
New river tiles.... Ouias...

A new mini expansion.... Could be interresting

I will have to wait and see how much this special edition will cost
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DrMeeple on March 05, 2021, 01:46:42 AM
What do you think? Those cities are very full of houses, aren't they?
Seems a neutral green?? Hope so... Then I will start to love C2 if this neutral beautiful green.. Not more green flubber please...


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Dugrand1 on March 05, 2021, 06:21:39 AM
News from 999Games ; in May the Dutch version will be released  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on March 05, 2021, 06:42:43 AM
Also Slovak rules will be printed.

Odoslané z SM-A202F pomocou Tapatalku

Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on March 05, 2021, 08:18:16 AM
Anywa rules are those:
1. Arrow means, that if arrow is connected to already placed tile, symbil is activated. Otherwise, symbol is not activated until any tile is placed to this arrow.
2. Double meeple - you are able to place meeple to you already placed meeple (crop circles)
3. Put meeple to any uncuppied and unfinished place = magic portal
4. Double turn = after finish turn, you can take another card from stack.

When placed tile and symbol is not activated, player gets 2 points.
Only one symbil can be activated per turn (also per double turn).
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on March 05, 2021, 08:21:39 AM
And there are 15 tiles in 20's expansion and 17 tiles in River 2021 (one is double tile)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Snearone on March 05, 2021, 09:04:34 AM
Little more perpendicular view of the tiles.
It looks like the easter eggs may be related to the expansions, hence catapult or elephant.

I really don't like how crowded cities are right now.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 05, 2021, 09:13:53 AM
You wild and crazy people that have access to the good stuff are great! I won’t ask where you got them from  ;) -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on March 05, 2021, 09:16:30 AM
Those are really only easter eggs without any "rules". Anyway @Snearone, nice resize of image!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 05, 2021, 09:21:22 AM

I really don't like how crowded cities are right now.

I don’t mind the cities. It can make for nice variety when combined with C1 and C2 tiles ....because they really are so different from C2 that they look like a C2.5, if not C3.


I’m not into the stickers on meeples though. To each their own, I suppose   -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on March 05, 2021, 09:22:40 AM
Quote
I really don't like how crowded cities are right now.
They are celebrating!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 05, 2021, 10:15:30 AM

It seems like they're addressing some of the issues with rivers creating large farms too.

My wife will love this. It's one of the reasons that she likes playing with the GQ11 pieces...she loves the road spitting the fields on both sides of the source. She'll be giddy over this one with splitting the fields on the source and one of the lakes. At least I still get one lake with a rounded field to use my farmers and piggies! -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 05, 2021, 03:06:14 PM
Czech instructions as linked to from CarcF

https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=5262&sid=c5449613f3deb614fdb62ebe7d97d343&start=30#p72061
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on March 05, 2021, 03:13:00 PM
Oh great, thanks Allograft!
Something to read.

Hmm, so both lakes are at the bottom of the River stack, a.k.a. no premature stopping of the river.
The double-tile is a single tile.
There are easter eggs refering to games other than Carcassonne family.
Even the score track has updated graphics.

Jubilee Expansion rules:

there are 5 tiles for each arrow symbol. Each refers to one already released expansion.

1) Placing the tile

-if you place a tile with an arrow NOT pointing to any tile, it does not activate and the player who placed it recieves 2 points.
-if it is placed so that the arrow points to an adjacent already placed tile, the symbol activates.
-if a normal tile is placed next to a tile with an arrow symbol, so that it points to it, the symbol activates.

2) Placing a follower


You place the follower as normal, but if the symbol was activated then:

double-meeple symbol = instead of normal placement, you can place a follower next to one of your followers already in play. (just like crop circles) you cannot exceed 2 followers per tile in this way.

meeple arrows symbol = instead of normal placement, you can place a follower on any incomplete, unclaimed feature (just like magic portal)

3) Scoring

two-tile symbol = after scoring you draw another tile and get another whole turn. No chain reactions (just like builder) If you activate the other two arrow symbols in the extra turn, you can use those.

---
If you activate multiple symbols on your turn, you can only choose one of them. 
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Whaleyland on March 05, 2021, 06:23:38 PM
I don't think anyone's mentioned it: confirmation that the watermark for the new tiles will be a plain semi-opaque "20". It's visible on all of the tiles with the blue arrows. However, it's not on the new River tiles, suggesting HiG considers those a part of the base game and it also may imply that the "20" tiles will be made available separately but the new River tiles will not be.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 05, 2021, 06:26:52 PM
Also, the new river tiles don't have the same wavy lines as Big Box 5 and 6 rivers. -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Whaleyland on March 05, 2021, 07:58:48 PM
Also, the new river tiles don't have the same wavy lines as Big Box 5 and 6 rivers. -  :pink-meeple:
That makes sense, though. In both of those Big Boxes, Hans im Glück advertises the River I as an expansion rather than a part of the core set, while in all of the new base game boxes, River I is considered a core part of the base game (albeit one with additional rules). Since this anniversary edition is still the base game and not a Big Box, it wouldn't make sense for HiG to add watermarks for the River tiles. The Jubilee 20 tiles, on the other hand, are likely to be sold separately (like they were in the 10th Anniversary Edition) and will probably be on their own punch sheet in the box.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on March 06, 2021, 01:04:08 AM
double-meeple symbol = instead of normal placement, you can place a follower next to one of your followers already in play. (just like crop circles) you cannot exceed 2 followers per tile in this way.

As far as I understood this part of the rules, the limit imposed is that you cannot place more than two meeples together in this way. That is, you cannot group 3 o more meeples in this way. However, the rules do not imply this affects the whole tile.

So you may have one meeple placed directly and another one placed by a symbol tile. Then you could add another meeple next to each meeple with other symbol tiles, ending up with 4 meeples on a tile in this case.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on March 06, 2021, 01:08:59 AM
Yes, that is what I meant.
Quote
you cannot exceed 2 followers per tile in this way.
You can add more, using effects outside of the Jubilee Expansion (i. e. an actual Crop Circle)

Quote
So you may have one meeple placed directly and another one placed by a symbol tile. Then you could add another meeple next to each meeple with other symbol tiles, ending up with 4 meeples on a tile in this case.
If you mean adding more than two meeples purely by symbol tiles from this Jubilee Expansion, then no you cannot do that.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on March 06, 2021, 01:22:23 AM
Yes, that is what I meant.
Quote
you cannot exceed 2 followers per tile in this way.
You can add more, using effects outside of the Jubilee Expansion (i. e. an actual Crop Circle)

Ooops! My sleepy brain tricked me and I read in this tile... My bad.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 06, 2021, 01:59:57 AM
Speculation has be moved to another thread.

Let's use this thread to share news for people who want to receive updates about the Jubilee edition.

Speculation and potential rule discussions can go on elsewhere  :(y)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: carlium on March 06, 2021, 10:18:09 AM
hmmmmm, badly cut cities became the new standard  :-\

Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 06, 2021, 11:11:33 AM
hmmmmm, badly cut cities became the new standard  :-\

In your perspective, is it that the cities now have too many buildings? What makes you assess them as being badly cut? -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on March 06, 2021, 11:24:49 AM
hmmmmm, badly cut cities became the new standard  :-\

In your perspective, is it that the cities now have too many buildings? What makes you assess them as being badly cut? -  :pink-meeple:

Peasant revolt and now this 20 anniversary edition have houses that are cut at the edge of city tiles. This did never happen before  :'(
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 06, 2021, 11:29:30 AM
Ah ha. I understand after looking closer.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on March 06, 2021, 11:30:33 AM
This must be caused by inflation affecting housing costs...

IMHO mismatching cluttered city edges are not very pleasing to the eye...  :-\
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 06, 2021, 11:45:10 AM
Ya, in looking at C2 tiles, even though they have more structures than C1, everything is still nicely in each tile. Thus, it does seem like the sloppiness of Peasant Revolts and 20th is, unfortunately, a C2.5. Perhaps C3 will mark a return for more clean lines and being aesthetically pleasing rather than the confusion of a casino. -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on March 06, 2021, 12:28:18 PM
Ya, in looking at C2 tiles, even though they have more structures than C1, everything is still nicely in each tile. Thus, it does seem like the sloppiness of Peasant Revolts and 20th is, unfortunately, a C2.5. Perhaps C3 will mark a return for more clean lines and being aesthetically pleasing rather than the confusion of a casino. -  :pink-meeple:

I thing if there will be C3, then will be more "eye candy". Check Hunters & G. 2020 edition with original...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 06, 2021, 12:34:02 PM
I don't mind more eye-candy, but I also agree with our peers that clean art would be nice without the eye-candy being so stuffed into spaces that it gets cut off. -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 17, 2021, 11:19:41 AM
Courtesy of CarcF https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?p=72099#p72099

Quote from: Ozzy post_id=72099 time=1615978937 user_id=600
Für die Leute, die neugierig auf den Preis waren

20th-anniversary-edition (https://milleetunjeux.fr/products/carcassonne-20th-anniversary-edition-limitee)

20ème anniversaire  (https://www.ludum.fr/jeux-de-societe-famille/carcassonne-20eme-anniversaire-edition-limitee-1468?fbclid=IwAR2JLh8_7xLCKtN8o6u912stCZs3i7R25M51syZT7NueqB0PTqiZ2r56TL4)

Here's some pre-orders with prices from €31.59 and €59.90.

Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: corinthiens13 on March 17, 2021, 02:03:16 PM
Courtesy of CarcF https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?p=72099#p72099

Quote from: Ozzy post_id=72099 time=1615978937 user_id=600
Für die Leute, die neugierig auf den Preis waren

20th-anniversary-edition (https://milleetunjeux.fr/products/carcassonne-20th-anniversary-edition-limitee)

20ème anniversaire  (https://www.ludum.fr/jeux-de-societe-famille/carcassonne-20eme-anniversaire-edition-limitee-1468?fbclid=IwAR2JLh8_7xLCKtN8o6u912stCZs3i7R25M51syZT7NueqB0PTqiZ2r56TL4)

Here's some pre-orders with prices from €31.59 and €59.90.

Nice! 31.59 Euros seems to be a fair price  ;)

But I'll order on Cundco, who knows if they'll add some other promotional stuffs with 20 anniversary orders  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 17, 2021, 02:09:40 PM
But I'll order on Cundco, who knows if they'll add some other promotional stuffs with 20 anniversary orders  :yellow-meeple:

promo stuff  :(y) .... (drooling) -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Dkmvs on March 21, 2021, 01:20:05 AM
Pre-order on a Dutch site (June);

for €30,- (https://www.spelspul.nl/nl/spel/17181-carcassonne-20-jaar-jubileum-editie-nl.html)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 21, 2021, 10:49:50 AM
That's the best price yet
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PolPolsNose on March 25, 2021, 08:07:48 AM
Pre-order on Z-Man Games' site is now up for $50: https://www.zmangames.com/en/products/carcassonne-20th-anniversary/
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on March 25, 2021, 12:15:17 PM
Pre-order on Z-Man Games' site is now up for $50: https://www.zmangames.com/en/products/carcassonne-20th-anniversary/

"Z-Man Games: ignoring the English-speaking world outside of America since... forever"

>:(
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 25, 2021, 12:43:13 PM
Wow The United Kingdom isn't even listed as a country.  They're licensed to sell to the UK and it's not listed as GB either.  But based on shipping to Ireland being $60.55 I'll probably give them a miss.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on March 25, 2021, 01:30:50 PM
Is this a Brexit thing?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 25, 2021, 01:32:37 PM
I don't know, but I have asked them.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: cicerunner on March 26, 2021, 12:47:45 AM
I stumbled upon this on Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Carcassonne/comments/md5j2r/a_leak_on_the_20th_anniversary_rules_and_tiles/

It seems odd that the rules image has "continue the conversation at CarcassonneCentral" on it but I have yet to see it here. Unless I missed it somewhere?

Here's the image:

(https://i.imgur.com/MaspSHB.jpg)

Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 26, 2021, 01:04:06 AM
Glad I added that at the bottom, in case people started copying it and posting it on their own social media platforms.  What on earth is reddit, looking at the comments they're a grumpy lot.

Still we know everything in this image, so didn't bother posting it here. Is on our twitter thing and maybe the facebooks
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 26, 2021, 01:14:30 AM
Should have said, was hoping to reach out to the typical Carcassonne fan. There were quite a few people who had asked about rules, hopefully this provides them some more information.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on March 26, 2021, 01:15:29 AM
Should have said, was hoping to reach out to the typical Carcassonne fan. There were quite a few people who had asked about rules, hopefully this provides them some more information.

Great work Decar. This is excellent.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: cicerunner on March 26, 2021, 01:20:20 AM
Glad I added that at the bottom, in case people started copying it and posting it on their own social media platforms.
Ah hah!

What on earth is reddit, looking at the comments they're a grumpy lot.
You're not wrong!

Still we know everything in this image, so didn't bother posting it here. Is on our twitter thing and maybe the facebooks
I don't know everything. Perhaps it's buried in this thread somewhere? This image seems to concisely sum up all that is currently known.

For interest, what is the source?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 26, 2021, 01:23:17 AM
The Czech rules, that are posted somewhere up there ^

They decided to release their rules about 3 weeks ago. No sign from anywhere else yet.

It's only a brief summary, but would be funny if these aren't the rules at all.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: cicerunner on March 26, 2021, 01:26:12 AM
So, to clarify, this is your translation of the Czech rules and you posted this image just to Facebook and Twitter?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on March 26, 2021, 01:26:58 AM
The summary matches the available rules. It omits the edge cases...  ;)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 26, 2021, 01:45:46 AM
So, to clarify, this is your translation of the Czech rules and you posted this image just to Facebook and Twitter?

It's just a summary of a translation of the Czech rules. The actually rules span about 7 pages and cover some of the edge cases (Meepledrone has others).  For a layperson it should provide enough details to know if they'd be interested.

Still some unknowns though, like how much extra detail do the new tiles provide compared to originals.

PS: Thanks for checking meepledrone  :(y)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Bumsakalaka on March 26, 2021, 01:49:32 AM
So, to clarify, this is your translation of the Czech rules and you posted this image just to Facebook and Twitter?
These rules are published direct on mindok (publisher) web page. So I guess it's in print and will not changed. But as some "old C1 stuff" still in rules, their translator uses previous transations and not check rules ganes by HiG :( So there is issue, that player has to show tile to other players when he take if from stack. In C2 rules is not required (read: it is not written anywhere that player has to show).
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 26, 2021, 01:56:39 AM
Like I said, it's a summary that doesn't go into the level of detail that affects no one,  that would require several hundred images and provide no concrete answers.  People want to know what's in the box, and what the expansions are about.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: danisthirty on March 26, 2021, 02:17:37 AM
The summary matches the available rules. It omits the edge cases...  ;)

For good reason I imagine. As an introduction to this new edition of the game for beginners/ newer players it's better if they can get a likely idea of how the expansions can be played without having to spend 6 days reading every conceivable interaction with expansions they probably don't own or care about.


These rules are published direct on mindok (publisher) web page. So I guess it's in print and will not changed. But as some "old C1 stuff" still in rules, their translator uses previous transations and not check rules ganes by HiG :( So there is issue, that player has to show tile to other players when he take if from stack. In C2 rules is not required (read: it is not written anywhere that player has to show).

I think this "issue" is going to be of little concern to casual Carcassonne players. It's hard to imagine anyone losing any sleep or having a game ruined over whether they should or shouldn't show their tile to their opponents before placing it. It's not like they're not going to see it anyway.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: MeepleFriend on March 26, 2021, 09:16:23 AM
Great couple of points, danisthirty. At the end of the day, I see this new summary as ensuring new players + casual players just being able to play the game in the way new players/ casual players play games (not like us OCD, completionist, thorough-treatment-of-every-conceivable-interaction folks! I’m on board with your description of the intent of the new summary, and what it will mean in practical terms for its intended audience.

That being said, I love the shout out to Carcassonne Central! It’ll be a great segue for the players that are interested in more—that was me at one point!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on March 26, 2021, 09:41:24 AM
OCD? What OCD?  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: MeepleFriend on March 26, 2021, 12:42:46 PM
OCD? What OCD?  ;D

Haha, we are our own support group here at CC, right?  ;) Except we never get “better”... just manage our condition!  :))
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: treyoshi on March 27, 2021, 05:21:50 AM
I browsed the forums some, but I apologize if this is cleared up somewhere else.  The anniversary tiles appear to have new artwork, but still be in the C2 style - is that correct?  As background, I don't currently own Carcassonne, and I am debating if the better move would be to pick up the Big Box with Minis and Exp 1/2 for basically the same cost as this will retail.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PurpleMeeple on March 27, 2021, 08:36:14 AM
Hi treyoshi, welcome to the forums!

The Big Box 6 (2017) is currently the only way to get the minis 1-7 in C2 format so is worth considering for that reason anyway.  Especially if there is any chance you are likely to become a ‘collector’..

I think the jury is still out on whether the UV printing and new artwork count as C2, C2.5 or C3.. I guess it’s up for debate at least until people have chance to compare tiles side by side.


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on March 27, 2021, 08:53:27 AM
Quote
The Big Box 6 (2017) is currently the only way to get the minis 1-7 in C2 format so is worth considering for that reason anyway.  Especially if there is any chance you are likely to become a ‘collector’..
Well actually  :D I would for that exact same reason advise to buy Jubilee 20th Edition, because the exclusive contents of that are way less likely to be reproduced in any other way, and it may dissapear faster than BigBox 6 (If Jubilee 10th was any indication)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Decar on March 27, 2021, 09:03:34 AM
WELCOME to the forum Treyoshi!

You are correct, they 20th anniversary edition will be compatible, but the tiles has been refreshed to celebrate 20 years. For example: Some nice flags have been added to the castles, and one tile has a Hans Im Glueck statue in the middle. These embellishments serve no additional function, only decoration.  The UV coating, may be somewhat different to regular tiles, but it's currently an unknown. I suspect HiG will aregue they're compatible.

Comparing Big Big 6 (BB6). Both have exclusive content.  The minis and the 20th anniversary expansion and river tiles. BB6 certainly has more content and configurations for game play. Depending on where you buy it, you'll find The anniversary edition is a similar price.

HiG has cleared out some shelf space for the 20th anniversary edition. Given BigBox6 has been available for quite a while now, I suspect it may become unavailable sooner than the 20th anniversary edition.  But you've got plenty of time to decide!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PurpleMeeple on March 27, 2021, 09:07:17 AM
Good point Dino... I am hoping though that as it appears to be available for preorder from all countries -  except the U.K. so far, natch (slight exaggeration but still) - that it will not be it *too* short on availability.. 


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PurpleMeeple on March 27, 2021, 09:17:27 AM
WELCOME to the forum Treyoshi!
...

But you've got plenty of time to decide!

I’ve noticed treyoshi that you are actually not that new to the forum and you appear to have been considering Big Box 2017 since before it came out... That is some thorough consideration  :) time to buy it dude (or dudette), get addicted, then also buy 20th anniversary and start collecting expansions.. ;D


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: treyoshi on March 27, 2021, 02:11:25 PM
Haha yes, I guess my first post was some time ago. I have been able to play other copies for the past few years, but at a point that might want to get my own. My hesitation on the big box was if a new art style was coming I would be starting out downlevel. I suppose big box plus anniversary would allow for double base games!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: DIN0 on March 27, 2021, 04:04:42 PM
Well buying both is the most safe (and most expensive) option.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: PurpleMeeple on March 27, 2021, 04:12:34 PM
I suppose big box plus anniversary would allow for double base games!

You know it


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Allograft on March 27, 2021, 06:19:34 PM
My hesitation on the big box was if a new art style was coming I would be starting out downlevel.

Really, C1 and C2 are both better than the 20th anniversary art (C2.2). The C2.2 art is a little too busy with cities overcrowded and spilling over the edge of the tiles.

I suppose big box plus anniversary would allow for double base games!

Agreed, you're looking at good 2 hour games once you get all the components interacting. You'd have a lot of fun and topics without getting anything else.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck
Post by: Meepledrone on March 28, 2021, 01:33:10 AM
Besides the overcrowded cities, the Easter eggs on every tile will help you separate base games when mixed. I should confess I committed a terrible sacrilege by drawing a black dot on the tiles of my second base game so I could easily separate them after combining them in large vanilla games.  :o

Now it should seem easier... Let's see if the colors match and all that and if the UV-printing makes them glossier... All those things that may set off the OCD alarms.

For River 1 it was easier, since the base game version has no symbol and the BB6 version has a river symbol. Let's see if the Jubilee River tiles can be separated easily when mixed with the base game version.

Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: PurpleMeeple on April 03, 2021, 03:17:11 PM
First U.K. preorder I’ve come across: https://www.board-game.co.uk/product/carcassonne-20th-anniversary-edition/ (https://www.board-game.co.uk/product/carcassonne-20th-anniversary-edition/)
 
£42.99 instead of rrp of £49.99...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on April 03, 2021, 03:22:58 PM
There are others such as Boardgameguru, which is cheaper, chaoscards, thirstymeeples.

and Zatu doesn't provide great service
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: PurpleMeeple on April 03, 2021, 03:27:29 PM
Yeah seen some others now, nothing on offer in U.K. a couple of days or so ago though.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on April 08, 2021, 02:25:55 AM
For UK residence I've published a list of preorders I've found with rough costings. Hope it's useful.

http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=5187.0
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: supertopix on April 08, 2021, 11:43:44 AM
What about Italy? My salesperson is telling me that the game will be released in every country, simultaneously, probably in June, at 35€...
I’ve preordered it.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on April 08, 2021, 12:11:17 PM
I'm still waiting for anything from Devir in Spain... They only announced they will release a version in Spain, but no website is offering a preorder yet...  :'(

I'm also thinking of getting a second copy from HiG...  >:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on April 08, 2021, 12:32:55 PM
Italian pre order sites:

https://m.uplay.it/gioco-da-tavolo-Carcassonne--20--Anniversario.html

Release date is 28th May, although I have seen 31st May.

Suspect with postage and delivery variance it will fluctuate a few days.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: MeepleFan on April 08, 2021, 04:44:35 PM
I'm still waiting for anything from Devir in Spain... They only announced they will release a version in Spain, but no website is offering a preorder yet...  :'(

I'm also thinking of getting a second copy from HiG...  >:D

Same like you. Waiting for news from Devir that never comes.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on April 09, 2021, 01:33:40 AM
We should continue to check Devir Spain's website, always up to date as we all know... with Expansions 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9 in the old artwork... and no Big Box 6  :o
http://devir.es/categoria/juegos-de-mesa/carcassonne/ (http://devir.es/categoria/juegos-de-mesa/carcassonne/)

Tha name of the game is "Carcassonne: When Time Stood Still."  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: inigomartinez on April 09, 2021, 01:58:15 AM
We should continue to check Devir Spain's website, always up to date as we all know... with Expansions 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9 in the old artwork... and no Big Box 6  :o
http://devir.es/categoria/juegos-de-mesa/carcassonne/ (http://devir.es/categoria/juegos-de-mesa/carcassonne/)

Tha name of the game is "Carcassonne: When Time Stood Still."  >:D >:D >:D

Note also that we never had the "Count, King and Robber" expansion, neither in old nor new atwork, and we are still missing "Under the Big Top" expansion. There is almost no sign that we are going to have them either.  :(
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on April 09, 2021, 02:08:43 AM
Nope... No sign of any of them yet...

As HiG released some parts of C1 Exp. 6 bundled with other expansions, maybe they don't feel the need or urge to publish it in C2. If you pay attention, the boxes don't the expansion number, so they have no issues in skipping some of them.

Remember HiG released C2 Exp. 9 a couple of years ago... so no hurry either.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Bumsakalaka on April 11, 2021, 04:29:42 AM
Czech/Slovak version confirmed by Mindok with release not later than June 2021. Price not yet set.

That Mindok is also publisher for Poland it will be same for this country which market is 4 times bigger than Czech one (and I not count Polish people live outside of Poland)

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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on April 17, 2021, 01:31:17 AM
New teaser video

https://youtu.be/Y0DVSQVlrzY
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on April 17, 2021, 01:32:21 AM
I cannot stop looking at that new river source tile!  >:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on April 17, 2021, 01:33:21 AM
How is it possible the tile backs are still the same?  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: DrMeeple on April 17, 2021, 01:35:14 AM
I hope the green is like the shared photos... more neutral and not a radioactive green ...


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: DrMeeple on April 17, 2021, 01:41:33 AM
How is it possible the tile backs are still the same?  :o
I hope there is a really limited exclusive edition for the 20th anniversary ... there is still time ...


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on April 17, 2021, 01:46:21 AM
Devir also posted the teaser in Spanish... but no signs of possible pre-orders yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cihyz_GHLE
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on April 17, 2021, 02:25:16 AM
We have confirmation that UV spot is applied to 20th anniversary features. The river, Marco polo, the mammoths, mini expansion symbols etc.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: corinthiens13 on April 26, 2021, 10:57:36 PM
For all of us that are editing rules (WICA and other ressources stuffs), here are some logos, taken from the teaser video. Quality isn't very good, but I'm not sure we can do better for now...  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 03, 2021, 07:22:06 AM
Benny from CarcF shared this from the latest edition of Spielbox magazine. I'm still waiting for the English edition to arrive. Hopefully Benny doesn't mind me sharing!

looks like there is a twitch Birthday event in June
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Bumsakalaka on May 12, 2021, 01:19:20 PM
Cool

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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 14, 2021, 03:43:06 PM
HiG has posted yet another teaser, this time describing the contents of the box. They mention revised rules and an inlay.

The teaser also mentions that the three actions of the Jubilee expansions are an homage to the first three major expansions...

(https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/_Resources/Persistent/e8f97e286eb44f45da95e45bc4ddfb92f2103bf7/20_years_expansion_tiles_3D_backsheet-1506x866-1280x736.png)

* Exp 1: Placing a second meeple next to a previous one (turning a normal meeple into a large meeple)
* Exp. 2: getting a new turn (similar to a double turn but not the same)
* Exp. 3: placing a meeple on any tile (similar to a magic portal)

See the teaser here:
https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/news/CC20-inhalt-en.html (https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/news/CC20-inhalt-en.html)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Dkmvs on May 14, 2021, 11:10:12 PM
104 tiles, I missed that:

Basegame 72
17 river tiles including a dual spring tile.
mini-expansion consisting of 15 tiles (combined with the 5 new river tiles that makes a total of 20 additional tiles).
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: The-Edge on May 15, 2021, 12:57:56 AM
Official release date 7 June

https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/news/CC20-inhalt.html
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Allograft on May 15, 2021, 11:48:55 AM
Nice find boss! -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 18, 2021, 03:17:57 PM
Let's not give them any more support for selling a 22€ game :(
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 18, 2021, 03:18:53 PM
Official release date 7 June

https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/news/CC20-inhalt.html

Bum, this means the delayed release misses my birthday  :'(   :'(
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: bonusDucks on May 22, 2021, 05:45:19 AM
The 'Anniversary Event' seems to have been postponed to 2022 ????
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Carcassonne93 on May 22, 2021, 07:53:25 AM
Who cares about those useless events? I want complete official rules for all (mini)expansions.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 22, 2021, 09:24:24 AM
While I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not trying to be obnoxious, I will say that the 16th Anniversary event that members of this forum was the most unique evening. We were lucky enough to hear Klaus Jurgen Wrede play a 6 piece piano performance of songs and melodies that were significant to his life. it was an incredible performance.  I was lucky enough to meet Bernd Brunnhofer and his lovely wife. I also got to experience world class Kartoffelklöße. And wrap up the evening playing prototype card games with Cristoph Tisch and Carcassonne fans from all over the world.  I suspect a 20th anniversary gathering would be even more remarkable!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Allograft on May 22, 2021, 10:29:46 AM
Holy Smokes Batman! There's a freaking party? NICE!

Where do people think it will be? How much were tickets last time? How does one get tickets? Is there a sign-up? What's the dress code? I wonder if it's in a country that I'll need a visa for?

This is gonna be great. -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 22, 2021, 10:37:38 AM
You forgot to ask if there will be Spiel tiles sets for everyone...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 22, 2021, 10:40:31 AM
Who cares about those useless events? I want complete official rules for all (mini)expansions.

This events are great to meet interesting people who are hiding the details about the clarifications yet to be released...  :o

Don't be so impatient!  ;)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Allograft on May 22, 2021, 10:42:38 AM
You forgot to ask if there will be Spiel tiles sets for everyone...

I find it's better to enjoy the event for whatever it brings :-) -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 22, 2021, 10:45:58 AM
All the dishes will contain crunchy meeples and everyone will use the secret Carc20 handshake...  ;D

Of course attending a unique event like this must be so amazing.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Allograft on May 22, 2021, 11:00:44 AM
All the dishes will contain crunchy meeples and everyone will use the secret Carc20 handshake...  ;D

Of course attending a unique event like this must be so amazing.

Meeple-shaped Chex Mix?

Meeple-shaped canapés?

Meeple-shaped sushi?

Meeple-shaped stuff mushrooms?

Meeple-shaped tapas?

Meeple-shaped baklava?

Meeple-shaped Swedish meatballs with savory shrine glaze?

-  :pink-meeple:




Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 22, 2021, 11:16:47 AM
All served on meeple-shaped plates...  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Allograft on May 22, 2021, 11:58:26 AM
All served on meeple-shaped plates...  ;D

OMG, it could be Meeple-shaped, Ethiopian style sponge bread for plates. -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 22, 2021, 12:27:07 PM
Now we are talking...  :neutral-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 23, 2021, 02:31:28 AM
ZMG made available part of the rules in English on their website. The Supplementary Rules are not available for download yet.

https://images.zmangames.com/filer_public/4e/26/4e26ad7b-d907-4dca-879e-585fe170e41c/zm7870_rulebook_web.pdf (https://images.zmangames.com/filer_public/4e/26/4e26ad7b-d907-4dca-879e-585fe170e41c/zm7870_rulebook_web.pdf)

As you may see, the wording has been reviewed slightly (it is closer to the BB6 approach than to the standalone base game rules), and they introduced some small changes in terminology:

* Meeple: they define what a meeple is and make the use the same word for singular and plural.

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Finally, let’s take a look at the MEEPLE (“meeple” comes from “my people”, so “meeple” is both singular and plural). The meeple represent your followers who will help you score points during the game. [...]

* Travelers: Highwaymen are renamed as travelers, so no negative connotations derived from the meeples placed on roads. This change is not present in the Czech version of the rules, so this must be a ZMG-only change.

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After placing the tile, you may place 1 meeple as a traveler on one of the road segments on this tile. [...]

* Nuns and abbesses: Now monks can also be called nuns, and abbots can be called abbessess. I assume these changes are due to political correctness only present so far in the ZMG version of the rules for the time being. The Czech rules still use monks and abbots as usual.

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After placing the tile, you may place 1 meeple as a monk (or nun) on a monastery.

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There are also 5 abbots (and abbesses) in the same 5 colors.

In this regard, I assume the Czech rules are closer to the original German rules, which are not available yet.

What do you think?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 23, 2021, 02:39:51 AM
As an additional note, in the final scoring section they included the field scoring for the sake of completeness (as they clarify), although field scoring is explained in the supplement rules.

A few typos got their way into the PDF rules, for example in the rules summary. Hope they make another proofreading pass before printing to make them perfect, since the occasion deserves it.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 25, 2021, 03:31:50 AM
A video review of the 20th Anniversary Edition in German, including some comments on the rules for the base game and the mini expansions included.

You wull fully enjoy it if you understand German. In my case I just tried to pick some German words here and there and enjoy some pictures of the actual box and the game included in the video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6brRvlXk-g

Have fun!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: corinthiens13 on May 25, 2021, 04:07:27 AM
Understanding German has been useful only a very few times. Now I'm happy to understand it :yellow-meeple:

Thanks for sharing Meepledrone !
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Willem on May 25, 2021, 04:35:15 AM
Its a good video yes. If you dont understand German well enough; there's  nothing really said that we didnt already know, but it is still a nice review/first look of the game
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Weetek23 on May 25, 2021, 06:39:41 AM
Noch wieder sehe ich, dass ich auf Deutch mehr verstehe als ich sagen kann...  ;D or somehow like this. Twenty plus years off the highschool, I finally see a point in German classes  ::)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: DrMeeple on May 25, 2021, 09:41:13 AM
This green field again…. Here we go again… :(


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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 28, 2021, 05:30:02 AM
One step closer... as can be seen on Instagram @hig_games:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CPV4xjfC_5v/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/CPV4xjfC_5v/)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: oldbonz on May 28, 2021, 06:19:01 AM
oh, the beautiful boxes!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 28, 2021, 06:39:32 AM
My precioooousssss!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Willem on May 28, 2021, 07:17:51 AM
I'll have 4 of those boxes please!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 28, 2021, 07:39:19 AM
You can order lots of 5 boxes only...  >:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Willem on May 28, 2021, 08:48:32 AM
Looks like there's 6 Carc20's per box, so order per 5 boxes, is 30 Carc20's.
For about £40 each, that's a nice investment....
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 28, 2021, 10:32:03 AM
6 x 20s could be good to reopen in the 120 year anniversary!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 28, 2021, 10:35:49 AM
A time capsule?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: DIN0 on May 28, 2021, 10:50:14 AM
But what about the time capsule of 10th anniversary versions? Who made that?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 28, 2021, 11:06:27 AM
I'm sure Dan and Decar buried one!  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Allograft on May 28, 2021, 11:21:33 AM
I got seven, one for each collection that I'm building out for family :-) -  :pink-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: DIN0 on May 28, 2021, 01:21:23 PM
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I'm sure Dan and Decar buried one!
I hope they marked the coordinates well  >:D
This actually gives me an idea - imagine someone truly hiding and burying a stash of rare Carcassonne stuff and then let people figure out where  it is. What an exciting treasure hunt that would be!  :gray-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: corinthiens13 on May 28, 2021, 01:26:28 PM
That'd be too dangerous! Too many people could kill for such a treasure  >:D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 29, 2021, 01:52:41 AM
Unboxing vid on the intagrams:

https://www.instagram.com/hig_games/
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: corinthiens13 on May 29, 2021, 02:22:56 AM
With a view of the scoreboard and its 20 anniversary design on the back  :yellow-meeple:

Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 29, 2021, 03:15:05 AM
Cool video! Thanks!

We also get to see the new insert finally!  ;D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 29, 2021, 03:21:11 AM
I know, I thought they were going to keep that secret for longer :D
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 29, 2021, 03:41:58 AM
Next week they will announce the Companion Guide with more than 1200 clarifications about interactions...  :o

Ha ha ha!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 29, 2021, 03:44:12 AM
Think of the rainforests ;(
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 29, 2021, 03:46:02 AM
I would prefer a PDF you can search...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: BigBoss on May 29, 2021, 07:59:33 AM
CundCo´s updated tile list  :)
https://cundco.de/media/pdf/cb/b5/7e/Plattchenliste-27-05-2021.pdf

Happy Jubilee  ;)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 29, 2021, 08:15:58 AM
Awesome! I didn't expected the updated file so soon!

It will save me a lot of work for WICA!

I was scavenging for 20th Anniversary tile images this very morning....
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Willem on May 29, 2021, 08:27:44 AM
Quick! Order the 20th anniversary expansion and double river starting tile from the spare tile service!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: KBellon on May 29, 2021, 10:06:49 AM
Unboxing vid on the intagrams:

https://www.instagram.com/hig_games/

It's a shame I can't watch it without logging in.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: KBellon on May 29, 2021, 10:10:50 AM
CundCo´s updated tile list  :)
https://cundco.de/media/pdf/cb/b5/7e/Plattchenliste-27-05-2021.pdf

Happy Jubilee  ;)

Awesome, I can see they added multiple roads to the river. I think it'll better the gameplay as I am always annoyed at the 1 giant field thats created by the river (although a GQ11 river tile already offers a partial solution).
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 29, 2021, 10:20:17 AM
I don't have an account, but can view on my phone.
Maybe this will work for you:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CParLL1Ceie/
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Willem on May 29, 2021, 10:53:19 AM
the latest link works fine on desktop as well, without logging in (i don't have instagram either)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Sinscerly on May 29, 2021, 11:28:15 AM
Awesome! I didn't expected the updated file so soon!

It will save me a lot of work for WICA!

I was scavenging for 20th Anniversary tile images this very morning....
Be fast, before they are not there anymore  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: corinthiens13 on May 29, 2021, 11:50:32 AM
Awesome, I can see they added multiple roads to the river. I think it'll better the gameplay as I am always annoyed at the 1 giant field thats created by the river (although a GQ11 river tile already offers a partial solution).

That is great!  :yellow-meeple: I'm really annoyed by those big fields too, same problem with the WoF and also with the City of Carcassonne...

20 anniversary river still has a FFF lake though (the one with the abbey)  :'(
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Dkmvs on May 29, 2021, 01:04:34 PM
Awesome, I can see they added multiple roads to the river. I think it'll better the gameplay as I am always annoyed at the 1 giant field thats created by the river (although a GQ11 river tile already offers a partial solution).
20 anniversary river still has a FFF lake though (the one with the abbey)  :'(

Guess we’ll take a run for the 20JEF-P tile  :P
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 30, 2021, 12:07:14 AM
Today on CarcF you will find a couple of  posts showing more pictures of the contents of a 20th Anniversary Edition box (by maik63) by maik63. Two posts latter some interesting pictures of KJW and PresetM with the 20th Anniversary Edition box and others that illustrate how the game and the box are built, including an exclusive signed printing-test tile sheet before the tiles were punched.

The posts can be found here:
https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=5262&p=72476#p72453 (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=5262&p=72476#p72453)

And some teaser pictures (you can click them to zoom in)...

(https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/download/file.php?id=11818&mode=view)

(https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/download/file.php?id=11820&mode=view)

So impatient to see one copy in my hands!!!  :o
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: KBellon on May 30, 2021, 05:52:43 AM
I don't have an account, but can view on my phone.
Maybe this will work for you:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CParLL1Ceie/

Thanks :D It worked.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 30, 2021, 06:32:11 AM
Glad that worked for you! Instagram is very strange regarding access. It seems to limit the number of things you can see.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 30, 2021, 06:43:25 AM
Carcassonne93 - This isn't the place to make your entitled claims for clarifications. No wonder HiG are in no rush to answer questions posed by 'fans' in this manner. I know I wouldn't if I was working for them. But I'm not. Regardless, it's also the 2nd time on this thread, that I've said this to you.  This time I've deleted your post.

To be clear you're welcome to post your concerns elsewhere on the forum, where it can be ignored. This thread is currently being seen by a large number of members here and not for this purpose.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: carlium on May 30, 2021, 07:10:14 AM
Thanks for sharing the news Meepledrone!

There is still confusion in my mind.
I know that any change may be very interesting for some fans but hated by others. That is totally normal, I think, like the green "issue" some years ago, just to mention one example.

However, the badly cut cities detail certainly decreases the aesthetic of the game itself. Even people at HiG considered some months ago, that the badly cut cities was a production problem when I contacted them when Pleasant revolts mini was launched.

I know this detail does not undermine all the cool new stuff presented in this release (seriously, I love the new river double tile!), but why they cut it in that way? is it easy to produce if they cut houses in half? I can see that I am not the only one that complains about this, even Benny in the last post shared by Meepledrone mentioned this, and there is some complains about this in this forum.

Are you, fans, happy with this? Maybe this is our new green dichotomy! I don't know hehehehe

Stay safe!

 :red-meeple:

Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 30, 2021, 08:18:20 AM
The cut cities are interesting.  It really doesn't sound like a production issue any more does it.  I think it was deliberate change.

One issue with the old style is that there are one or 2 houses per tile, and in larger cities there are large gaps, or clusters between houses.
A bit like this:
(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/GhcLI4Sb5JGjD0vvXnngMA__imagepagezoom/img/_qrMQ_G7xJE4ubBFkDhPbskG5xw=/fit-in/1200x900/filters:no_upscale():strip_icc()/pic4490446.jpg)
Image from Richard Ware on BGG

This new style supports a busier, more consistent distribution of houses, but on closer inspection there are these half buildings.

I think this base game will be the first time that there are enough tiles to see the effect.  Although Mike's image on CarcF does help.

What I would say is that I wished they chose to do something like Cable Car:

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/dU5FCdv--cO3WMn-53uglg__imagepagezoom/img/DtqLomRp3sMd2qWcI0lRoowRvD8=/fit-in/1200x900/filters:no_upscale():strip_icc()/pic1445822.jpg)
(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/gIldzxjCk7zySScGFiO2Wg__imagepagezoom/img/kFTf8E1d-FP-xQvPUsAAJxY107s=/fit-in/1200x900/filters:no_upscale():strip_icc()/pic1448217.jpg)
Image taken from EndersGame BGG

This repetition is a little boring, but I think something like this could have worked for Carcassonne.

Carcassonne20 is clearly meant to have a lot of stuff, and Easter Eggs woven into the art, so hopefully this way of doing it supported that decision.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: DIN0 on May 30, 2021, 08:21:57 AM
i would have preferred if they kept "whole houses". C1 cities were empty, yes, but uncut C2 solved that problem already. Cut-off houses are more problems than they're worth.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: corinthiens13 on May 30, 2021, 08:37:10 AM
My point of view is the same as Dino. I didn't like C1's cities having big walls to protect empty wasteland... But C2 corrected this problem with art !  ???

But at least the 20 anniversary edition is still beautiful!  :D

+1 Merit to Decar for managing the forum, thanks!  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 30, 2021, 12:16:02 PM
Thanks corinthiens13, though I don't accept it too lightly.
Carcassonne is a lot of things to a lot of people.

Some of us like to play, some like to collect, others like to work of expansions and use their creative skills. Others like to analyze interactions so that all cases are covered.  I'm grateful to everyone in this community for their great enthusiasm for the game, even if they don't play that frequently (or even if you're one of those players that likes filling in holes).

It really goes to show how great Carcassonne is; to have developed and supported so many people's passions.  This is why I think this particular rendition is a fantastic way to celebrate 20 years of this awesome game.  A way to celebrate all the things we have (and some of HiG's other great achievements), rather than focusing too much on what we don't have or in this case what we expect to receive.

Not too long to wait now (hopefully), until we have a box of two in our own hands!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Meepledrone on May 30, 2021, 01:05:01 PM
Don't get too impatient... The wait is coming to an end. ;D

I'm wondering what other stuff will be released, since HiG tagged on of the sections as Anniversary Products...

Therefore the 20th Anniversary Edition shouldn't be the only product to be released.

This is becoming a huge effort we should thankful for... no matter some clarifications got stalled in the process (@Carcassonne93).
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Bumsakalaka on May 30, 2021, 11:30:56 PM
But this heading's gone now

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Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: corinthiens13 on May 31, 2021, 01:01:44 AM
D-6, I'm thrilling to order the 20 anniversary edition on Cundco !  :D

As well as a few other stuffs  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Whaleyland on May 31, 2021, 02:16:00 AM
A few questions for the well-informed:

1) Is the English edition going to be available on Cundco?
2) Will the English edition be available at the same time as the German edition?
3) When will the Winter-Edition with River be available from Cundco?

In case it's not clear, I want to order the 20th Anniversary Edition at the same time as the new Winter Edition since shipping for one or two full games from Germany to New Zealand is a fortune either way and hardly a different price, so why pay for shipping twice?
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Willem on May 31, 2021, 03:36:16 AM
I don't know everything for sure, but from what i understand:
1. No, Cundco haven't even really announced the German edition, but it is likely to be available there very soon. There seems to be some exclusive time for Asmodee partner shops, but not sure how Cundco is planning to release.
2. Unlikely. I've been checking the sites for English editions, and they actually seem to have a release date later in June, or some even July (or nothing). So i expect the English version to be a bit later.
3. Cundco have said they will have it available, "later this year", so no real indication as to when. But as i think it is unlikely that Cundco will have the English Anniversary, it might be tricky to find both in 1 place
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: corinthiens13 on May 31, 2021, 04:45:12 AM
The winter edition will probably arrive later, between october and December, when winter arrives. Now is not the time for a winter edition, summer hasn't even started  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Whaleyland on May 31, 2021, 05:20:11 AM
The winter edition will probably arrive later, between october and December, when winter arrives. Now is not the time for a winter edition, summer hasn't even started  :yellow-meeple:
From where I’m looking in New Zealand, it’s looking pretty wintry.  :))
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: corinthiens13 on May 31, 2021, 05:41:05 AM
Sure, sorry I forgot Earth's basic physic laws :yellow-meeple:

But it isn't winter in Germany. And HiG's sales are probably at least 90% in the north hemisphere  ???
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 31, 2021, 05:48:28 AM
Hmm.

Zman owns the licence in Australia, and probably do ok. But Devir does a fantastic job supporting South American countries!

I think it's unlikely that Cundco will have English copies, but they did have limited English editions of Paleo at Essen last year, so it could happen!
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Whaleyland on May 31, 2021, 06:01:37 AM
I think it's unlikely that Cundco will have English copies, but they did have limited English editions of Paleo at Essen last year, so it could happen!
In a sense, the language doesn't really matter, I suppose. I mean, the box appears to be almost entirely language-free and I hardly need the rules except for the new mini expansion.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Decar on May 31, 2021, 06:59:08 AM
I tend to agree, it looks like HiG will publish rules as pdf on their website. The first half are there already. Hopefully the expansion will too.  I would say that given the special printing and description added to the rulebook, it might be one for native language.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: MMike on May 31, 2021, 03:18:43 PM
Somebody posted on Facebook photos of the box and components  :(y) enjoy
https://facebook.com/groups/Carcassonne999Games/permalink/1183522678728214/ (https://facebook.com/groups/Carcassonne999Games/permalink/1183522678728214/)
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Willem on May 31, 2021, 03:37:54 PM
And another review/live playthrough of the game here:

https://youtu.be/IiFy6UPoQlM

Note, it's in Dutch, however they don't really say much news for us hahaha.
They review the game for the casual user, and comment that it is a very nice version to have for any fan of Carcassonne
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Dkmvs on June 04, 2021, 09:23:44 AM
Spelspul.nl just send a mail that my order is announced for sending..  ;D curious when it’ll arrive!
It says tomorrow, but I expect next week tbh.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Willem on June 04, 2021, 09:28:06 AM
Same here! They have a countdown timer on their website, which counts down until tomorrow, so looks like it was actually (fairly) accurate!

I got a DHL tracking code, so within a few days that one will be delivered! (At my parents where I can't get it yet, but ah well  ;D )
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Whaleyland on July 20, 2021, 01:38:31 AM
I was holding out hope for an English edition but complaints and then the Z-Man announcement a month or so ago finally convinced me to buy a French version, and I don't regret it at all. This game is BEAUTIFUL! My copy did have a minor scratch on the front of the box, which is unfortunate, but the contents are perfect and this was one of my least regretted games in a couple years, to be honest (Kickstarter is always more about the hype than the results, I've come to find).

Until now, I have been mixing my old art and new art tiles, but now that I have my own new art base game, I've finally separated them out. The 20th Anniversary box fits all of my new art stuff including Under the Big Top, all the Cundco promo expansions, a sixth set of meeples, and the Spiel and Spielbox tiles. It's pretty much perfect until another large expansion comes out. Meanwhile, my old art tiles are now snugly stored in a tin that's mostly out of sight, ready to be used if I'm feeling like playing older expansions.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: unclewill on July 20, 2021, 06:49:24 AM
I was holding out hope for an English edition but complaints and then the Z-Man announcement a month or so ago[...]
Hi there, I am struggling to find out what is going on with this release.
I'd really appreciate it if someone could briefly shed some light on it.
The company I pre-ordered from (Tritex in the UK) have no idea and their supplier seems to have no idea either. Part of me is tempted to cancel the order as I already have plenty of Carcassonne and who needs more, right? At least I have the sophisticated simplicity of C1 to soothe my nerves...
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Willem on July 20, 2021, 07:05:08 AM
I have contacted Zman Games about it directly a few weeks ago.
I asked if they could give any update on the expected release date of Carc20 in english.

They told me they had some (and i quote) "unexpected production delays due to the pandemic".
Currently, they are hoping/aiming to have Carc20 out in September, but did also say they have minimal updates on it's status.

It's not saying much in terms of knowing something certain, but i don't expect anything before September, based on Zman's response
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: unclewill on July 20, 2021, 07:13:44 AM
Thanks Willem.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Mikeagan on July 22, 2021, 08:54:05 PM
I also posted about the delay on BGG (https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2693834/us-release-date-delayed-possibly-september) a few days ago myself.
Title: Re: Announcement from Hans Im Gluck - 20th Anniversary edition
Post by: Allograft on August 21, 2021, 11:22:12 AM
While I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not trying to be obnoxious, I will say that the 16th Anniversary event that members of this forum was the most unique evening. We were lucky enough to hear Klaus Jurgen Wrede play a 6 piece piano performance of songs and melodies that were significant to his life. it was an incredible performance.  I was lucky enough to meet Bernd Brunnhofer and his lovely wife. I also got to experience world class Kartoffelklöße. And wrap up the evening playing prototype card games with Cristoph Tisch and Carcassonne fans from all over the world.  I suspect a 20th anniversary gathering would be even more remarkable!

Any updates on when the party might be scheduled for? I'm currently schedule to give a lecture at legal conference in France in July and it'd be great to stack events together