Author Topic: Builder's Double turn + Message #4 (Add a Landscape Tile) doubts (Read 1759 times)

ac1982 · « **on:** March 10, 2022, 11:48:31 AM »

Ok let's say I expand a city, and my builder is in it. I perform my action, score some points and I end up on a dark tile on the scoreboard. So I get a message and it's the "Add a Landscape Tile" one. So I draw a new tile out and I again expand the same city.
Did I just earned another turn on top of the one I already earned at the beginning?
Rules say "The builder can only ever grant one double turn at a time (no chain reaction)". But I didn't use the builder to expand the city again, it was the message.
Is this correct? I am honestly a little bit confused about the correct order of play in this rare but possible case. I couldn't find precise info on the web.

Expand a city with builder in it = EARN A NEW TURN
Score points and read a message => Get message #4 = EARN A NEW TURN

And now I'm lost. I do the red turn first (but can I earn new turns, as per previous question?) and then the blue turn, and I can end up on a dark tile again and earn a new message... and so on?
I'm lost.

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corinthiens13 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 10, 2022, 12:54:18 PM »

See footnote #21 on https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Messages

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If a tile is added to a feature with a builder and triggers the drawing of Message #4, The Message extra tile comes before the builder extra turn. If the extra tile from the Message is put on the builder's feature, this will create another builder extra turn. Thus, the events would be: initial turn => Message #4 turn => Message #4 builder turn => original tile's builder turn. (11/2013)

Hope this helps

ac1982 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 10, 2022, 11:27:56 PM »

Thank you so much I use that wiki every day but I miss so many things! Problem, solved.

corinthiens13 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 10, 2022, 11:31:49 PM »

You're welcome

Meepledrone · « **Reply #4 on:** March 11, 2022, 08:30:51 AM »

Quote from: ac1982 on March 10, 2022, 11:27:56 PM

Thank you so much I use that wiki every day but I miss so many things! Problem, solved.

Let me know what things you are missing so we can add them.

All your suggestions will be most welcome.

ac1982 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 11, 2022, 11:21:46 AM »

Quote from: Meepledrone on March 11, 2022, 08:30:51 AM

Let me know what things you are missing so we can add them.

No, *I* miss things, as in "I still have to learn a million rules!"

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Meepledrone · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2022, 01:10:04 AM »

Ah! Okay... You don't need to learn everything by heart. If you have a general view of the mechanics, you just need to know how to find the answers to particular issues...

Happy exploring and learning!