Author Topic: The Spell Cirlces – Rules (Read 722 times)

NGC 54 · « **on:** October 18, 2023, 08:36:00 AM »

https://wikicarpedia.com/car/The_Spell_Circles#2a._Placing_ghosts

What happens if, with the same tile, you expand and limit a mist with spell circles? You add 1 ghost from the supply to another player, 1 ghost from a spell circle to another player, 1 ghost from the supply to yourself, and the remaining ghosts in the spell circles of that mist to yourself, isn't it? The rules are not explicit on this matter.

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Meepledrone · « **Reply #1 on:** October 20, 2023, 10:31:05 AM »

Yep, they extend the same mechanics with more ghosts to distribute in both cases. If you limit and extend the mist, both cases apply and you have to proceed as you say.

NGC 54 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 11, 2023, 12:01:11 PM »

How many fields are on this tile? 2 or 3?

Scott · « **Reply #3 on:** November 11, 2023, 12:24:00 PM »

Three. The mist has no impact on feature separation.

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NGC 54 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2023, 01:30:32 PM »

Translating https://wikicarpedia.com/car/Carcassonne_Order_of_Play, the following question came in my mind:

Can the dragon eat ghosts placed on spell circles? When playing with Exp. 11, but without The Spell Circles, the all ghosts placed on tiles are assigned to meeples, and the ghosts were removed as a side effect due to the meeple being eaten by the dragon. But when playing with The Spell Circles, you can have ghosts on tiles that do not have any meeples on them... what happens if the dragon lands on such a tile?

Bumsakalaka · « **Reply #5 on:** November 26, 2023, 12:53:49 AM »

Quote from: NGC 54 on November 25, 2023, 01:30:32 PM

Translating https://wikicarpedia.com/car/Carcassonne_Order_of_Play, the following question came in my mind:

Can the dragon eat ghosts placed on spell circles? When playing with Exp. 11, but without The Spell Circles, the all ghosts placed on tiles are assigned to meeples, and the ghosts were removed as a side effect due to the meeple being eaten by the dragon. But when playing with The Spell Circles, you can have ghosts on tiles that do not have any meeples on them... what happens if the dragon lands on such a tile?

I think nothing happened to ghosts. As there are no associated meeple, they can not leave, when it's meeple is gone.
So ghost as is is not in dragon diet plan. So ghosts placed on spell circles will be left there when dragon will visit tile with them.

NGC 54 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 26, 2023, 05:50:29 AM »

Whatever, the following pages have to be updated accordingly:

Meepledrone · « **Reply #7 on:** November 26, 2023, 01:37:00 PM »

Here we have a dilemma:

Even if ghosts are supposed to be spirits, should be scared of the dragon?
* Should ghosts be treated like any other neutral figures in the dragon's meal plan even if not assigned to any meeple: such as the Mage, the Witch and the Gingerbread Man?
* Should ghost follow the lead of phantoms and be removed by the dragon?

Or should ghosts be the only exception as a figure defining a character (not cosidering other pieces such as bridges or tower pieces, to name a couple of them) and ignore the dragon when on the same tile?

A tile with the dragon and several ghosts can become very crowded...

NGC 54 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 26, 2023, 06:34:44 PM »

Before the release of the The Spell circles expansion, the following really crowded scenario was already possible: 1 regular tile with meeples + dragon + fairy + bridge + castle token + shepherd with sheep tokens + big top + ghosts + gold ingots + mage + witch.

So what harm do a little dragon and 1–4 very, very small ghosts on 1 tile?

Of course, you can replace the big top with a Burj Meeplifa with a skydiver meeple on its top, if that tile is a tile with a tower foundation, not with a circus space!