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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #270 on: January 08, 2024, 10:56:45 AM »
@Meepledrone please, why is phase 2 in Scoring during Turn sequence called: 'Round 2 - End of "move wood" phase' when it's written above
'Step 2A: Move the Wood (Prologue) - Before any figure or token placement action'

Isn't this correct name 'Round 2 - Start of "move wood" phase'?

https://wikicarpedia.com/car/Scoring_During_Turn_Sequence
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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #271 on: January 08, 2024, 12:15:39 PM »
And while we're at it:
The tile distribution only shows 29 tiles: one dragon is missing

@kelderek: :(y) Done.
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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #272 on: January 08, 2024, 12:20:34 PM »
@NGC 54 Thank you, this satisfies my CDO
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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #273 on: January 08, 2024, 03:59:24 PM »
@Meepledrone please, why is phase 2 in Scoring during Turn sequence called: 'Round 2 - End of "move wood" phase' when it's written above
'Step 2A: Move the Wood (Prologue) - Before any figure or token placement action'

Isn't this correct name 'Round 2 - Start of "move wood" phase'?

https://wikicarpedia.com/car/Scoring_During_Turn_Sequence

This step didn't exist before The Barber-Surgeons (buying back a meeple right before placing it) was released. Later Exp. 11 & The Spells (placing ghosts) joined the team. Therefore its generic name to accommodate anything that might come. So far, it has served us well.

Step 2A: Move the Wood Prologue or Step 2A: Move the Wood Preamble could work just fine to finally remove the parentheses. I used "Prologue" for not using "Phase 0" back in the day without further infomation. ;)

The description of the phase could be Preliminary actions. So we talk about actions and not about phases. Before any figure or token placement action falls a bit short since Exp. 11 & The Spells perform numerous actions affecting ghosts and meeples in this step now. This would match the scope of Step 2C: Resolve Move the Wood - Rest of actions as well.

Whatever decision is made, we should then update both Scoring_During_Turn_Sequence  and Order_of_Play accordingly.
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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #274 on: January 15, 2024, 02:48:52 AM »
Whatever decision is made, we should then update both Scoring_During_Turn_Sequence  and Order_of_Play accordingly.

Please @Meepledrone can you added it to the Scoring During Turn Sequence because I'm working on it. And you know what and where to set.

But I have another question.

In Scoring During Turn Sequence, each feature have "Feature Scoring row which indicate, which scoring rules affect value of feature. And also icons which scoring can be made when this feature is scored - Robbers / Castle / Teacher / And Ringmaster (added for now just for Vistas).

But this information is missing for Cemeteries and Haunted Castles. Should it be added also? I suppose then yes. Fortune teller scores 0 points for owner, which can fire Castle scoring. So it can be also for Exp 11 features, right?

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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #275 on: January 16, 2024, 01:36:14 PM »
For Scoring During Turn Sequence:

For roads there are several types of tiles and one Land surveyor tile on which depends final length of the road.

When we know the length of road, then we can consider it's scoring.

So my suggestion is to move these rules on beginning of Feature scoring to define final count of tiles and after them, define scoring of this road like 1 point / tile except German Cathedrals etc.

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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #276 on: February 09, 2024, 10:21:08 AM »
There are equal signs at the "1. Placing a tile" sections. Examples: https://wikicarpedia.com/car/The_Flier#Gameplay.

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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #277 on: February 12, 2024, 03:03:45 AM »
Hello,

I haven't noticed the Lucca map on WiCa, shouldn't it be added? :)

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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #278 on: February 18, 2024, 12:35:43 PM »
Yes, we will add it. Hope I have some time for it soon.

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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #279 on: February 19, 2024, 03:20:02 AM »
On this page: https://wikicarpedia.com/car/Scoring:_A_Historical_Perspective_(1st_edition)

The first diagram is labelled "1st score, 2nd score, 3rd score". For consistency with the main text it should be labelled, "1st edition, 2nd edition, 3rd edition".

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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #280 on: February 19, 2024, 06:03:01 AM »
This might cause some confusion, as the three "editions" refer to different rules releases of the First Edition game release (artwork by Doris). It needs changing, yes, but maybe other terminology used throughout? "Release" or "Version"? It may have been based on the original CAR.
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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #281 on: February 19, 2024, 06:05:02 AM »
On this page: https://wikicarpedia.com/car/Scoring:_A_Historical_Perspective_(1st_edition)

The first diagram is labelled "1st score, 2nd score, 3rd score". For consistency with the main text it should be labelled, "1st edition, 2nd edition, 3rd edition".

Well, when usually C2 is marked as 2nd edition and C3 as 3rd edition of Carcassonne, then it will be better to name as 1st version rules, 2nd version rules and 3rd version rules.

It better than confusing 1st edition rules of 1st edition of Carcassonne, 2nd edition rules of 1st edition of Carcassonne, etc.

This have no impact to Editions (C1/C2/C3), but to rules adaptation in specific Cx edition.

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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #282 on: February 19, 2024, 06:05:28 AM »
Same time @wolnic - release is good :)

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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #283 on: February 21, 2024, 03:17:56 PM »
On this page: https://wikicarpedia.com/car/Scoring:_A_Historical_Perspective_(1st_edition)

The first diagram is labelled "1st score, 2nd score, 3rd score". For consistency with the main text it should be labelled, "1st edition, 2nd edition, 3rd edition".

Well, when usually C2 is marked as 2nd edition and C3 as 3rd edition of Carcassonne, then it will be better to name as 1st version rules, 2nd version rules and 3rd version rules.

It better than confusing 1st edition rules of 1st edition of Carcassonne, 2nd edition rules of 1st edition of Carcassonne, etc.

This have no impact to Editions (C1/C2/C3), but to rules adaptation in specific Cx edition.
I'm not really following ... If there is a better wording than the one I suggested, I am completely happy to be corrected and see that implemented. The current wording definitely does need changing though, so that the main body of the text and the diagram labels are consistent.
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Re: WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here
« Reply #284 on: February 21, 2024, 03:20:12 PM »
On this page:
https://wikicarpedia.com/car/Icons

The final paragraph reads as follows:
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Old rule which is not valid yet, because was changed or removed from newer editions or releases.

If I have understood the intent correctly, I would suggest rewording this as follows:
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Older rules which are no longer valid because they were changed or removed in later editions or releases.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2024, 03:32:22 PM by cicerunner »


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