Author Topic: 4 Pack Expansion box (Read 2815 times)

chris6507 · « **on:** February 22, 2022, 05:52:01 AM »

On Facebook Marketplace someone is selling an expansion box with Inns & Cathedrals, Traders & Builders, Princess and Dragon and River 2 (With count, king & robber symbol). They are all in one box seperate from the base game and has Rio Grande Games in the corner. Does anyone know what this is? Cant find it on the wiki and I was under the understanding that the crown symbol did not exist on English copies of river 2 outside the Z-man games release. Quite puzzled by this. Never seen it before.

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Willem · « **Reply #1 on:** February 22, 2022, 06:33:12 AM »

Hmm...
Could you maybe share a picture of the box?
I'm not aware of any such bundle; it can be of course that they are separate expansions that the seller has just bundled together

chris6507 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 22, 2022, 11:43:58 AM »

Here's the picture. Wanted to add it ast noght, but i was on my phone in bed and it was too hard to add.

chris6507 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 22, 2022, 11:46:42 AM »

And the inside.

Willem · « **Reply #4 on:** February 22, 2022, 12:35:17 PM »

Interesting, never seen that before.
The inlay looks ok, but still I think this is a fake box.
Maybe not made by the seller, but not an official Carc release.
For 1, the logo on the box says Sur Knight Kings, but in the font of Rio Grande Games.
The only thing I could find on that, is this BGG post, where someone asks if it's legit, and even our own Decar outing suspicion that its probably fake.

The box looks nice, but the knock-off from the RGG logo makes me think it's fake.
Perhaps a good print over the front cover of a base game?

If the tiles look ok, you can of course buy it, and I'd be interested in seeing more from the box to see how it's made, but I highly doubt it's a licensed release

chris6507 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 22, 2022, 01:00:49 PM »

Haha I only saw the picture on my phone where it was small. So I just assumed it was the Rio Grande Games logo as I couldn't see it properly. :-D

Scott · « **Reply #6 on:** February 22, 2022, 01:12:51 PM »

The base games published by Ventura Games is from Australia or New Zealand.

I did some Googling for "Sur Knight Kings" and found some base games being sold out of the Phillippines. English is one of the two official languages of the Phillippines, so I suspect this would have been Rio Grande's territory in the past, and currently ZMG's territory. I found RGG and ZMG versions of the game for sale from Phillippines-based merchants. I agree that "Sur Knight Kings" is probably a well-made knock-off, because I can find very little info about them, and the logo looks too similar to Rio Grande's.

Den Ozzy · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2022, 04:21:19 AM »

I saw a box like this for sale in my neighborhood a while ago, I live in Belgium.
I wanted to buy it but it was already sold.
But I did ask where they bought this box.
Apparently these people had lived in china for a while and they had bought it new from a store there.

Scott · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2022, 10:36:43 AM »

The Chinese are masters of knock-offs, so that definitely fits.

Willem · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2022, 10:42:07 AM »

Interesting, thanks Den Ozzy for sharing that!

Looking at the base games for sale from the Philippines as Scott said, they look even more knock-off. Over saturated colours, etc
The RGG-style logo is a big giveaway, even though this 4 expansion box is well made it seems.
There's quite a few knock off versions of Carcassonne around, but you don't often see such unique ideas