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Thanks Willem, that's a great write up.

As I commented on BGG:

Something that I find particularly important, is that these games, for the most part, remain accessible to the public, allowing them to live on beyond their intended years. Tony explained that for a vast number of games in his collection there is simply no record they ever existed. When you compare that to the forums and designer notes that seem to accumulate around every modern game, the importance of this collection is even more apparent. Each box has a small story to tell, whether it's an innovative parlor game, or a reskin of the previous year's successful roll-and-move. Often collections remain private, or permanently sealed inside a glass cabinet; so it's wonderful to see the range of items available to inspect up-close. Tony's work isn't simply filling shelves with games, but carefully pulling the pieces together and developing the historical context around each game.

I'm quite happy to donate £3 pm to his Pateron: as it's quite a local venue; and the café opposite is pretty good good.

+1 for Willem for his write up

+1 to Dan for wearing the same shirt!

General / Re: Mega Game and Tile Organization
« on: April 18, 2023, 10:45:06 AM »
Seems like Scott's already explained how the publishers work. The thing to bear in mind is that if HiG sold it's stock to the USA, then their license wouldn't be so profitable for Z-Man.

This applies to countries and their languages. Their license allows them to do as they wish with Carcassonne. Normally that means keeping in step, but there are lots of times were things get out of sync.

Zman is particularly rubbish at getting releases out. If it's any consolation, there was an old Carcassonne Shoppe in the USA, but there were some unfavorable terms for them and they eventually had to close.

General / Re: Mega Game and Tile Organization
« on: April 18, 2023, 04:26:50 AM »
I'd stick with the newer stuff. In principle C1, C2, and C3 tiles are all compatible with each other. Their tile backs are the same.

Having said that, I think given a large print run you'd be able to distinguish tiles printed at the start and end of the run. There will always be variation in shades of grey and inks and printers for a game that's 20 years old.  The question is whether the variation is acceptable for you. I am fairly pragmatic and after a few different expansions and versions I can't really tell the difference. This is why the tile bag and the tile tower was introduced, to reduce people gaming the difference in tiles.

Some C2 sets have rounded corners. Some C3 sets have square corners. This isn't a helpful differentiator, it varies by run and publisher globally.  It was something someone noticed in C3, but had actually occurred sooner in some locations. I try not to let this myth propagate.

You'll be able to tell C3 and C20 apart very easily, all the C20 tiles have spot gloss on them, making key features and art shiny under light. It's a very nice set. I'd recommend getting it, and if you're going to be playing Mega Carcassonne an additional base game, like C3, won't be wasted.

I'd not rule mixing C1 and C3 together. Sure the art is a bit different, but there are some promos and expansions that are only available in one form or another. I'd much rather experience the mechanics than worry about consistent art.  But that's something you'll have to answer for yourself.

The reality is that C1 things are becoming hard to find and the publisher's interests are in the new version. I'd recommend using the latest version unless you're truly drawn to the old style, happy with the lack of official support, and, realistically, know you'll probably never find some of the earlier forgotten expansions.

...But you can probably tell I'm quite pragmatic, and it's easier for me to say this, as I've got a mostly complete C1 set.

General / Re: Mega Game and Tile Organization
« on: April 18, 2023, 02:02:29 AM »
Welcome to for the forum Meles.

It sounds like the Carcassonne bug has bitten you, and good luck with your venture into Mega-Carcassonne.

I would work up slowly if you're coming from a digital base, there's a lot of nuanced things about playing in real life, not just sorting the tiles out after each game!

I'd recommend looking for blank tiles, as they can sometimes be a bit cheaper for donor tiles from base sets.  But printing and producing your own fan-expansion tiles may be worth doing after you've played some larger games with the official tiles.  I for one get burnt out managing all the rules and lose track of any strategic play when there's too much going on, but don't let me put you off.

For the massive games, I'd recommend you play on the floor!

Best of luck, let us know how you get on and share some photos!

General / Re: Do you use house rules?
« on: April 17, 2023, 05:42:03 AM »
Do love a good Princess Bridge reference.... I want him to live a long life, alone with his cowardice.

General / Re: Looking for more standard tile expansions
« on: April 17, 2023, 05:03:30 AM »
Sounds like you should be considering starting to make your own :D

General / Re: Do you use house rules?
« on: April 14, 2023, 08:37:45 AM »
The only house rule we play is regarding unclear clarifications:

If players are willing to argue about the interpretation of rules, they must also be willing to fight to the death over it.

We solve a lot of problems that way, the games are much shorter, although you do run out of people to play with.

Reviews & Session Reports / Re: One of our craziest openings ever
« on: March 21, 2023, 07:50:09 AM »
Nice report - thanks for sharing your game!

Anything Else / Re: Be careful what you wish for...
« on: March 08, 2023, 12:50:11 PM »
Granted. But unfortunately it will be published at least 30 years.

I wish to play Carcassonne world championship in Carcassonne.

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Granted but you have to wait 30 years...

This game requires an impact of someone's desire, not simply it takes a long time.

I wish publisher continue to publish Carcassonne for another 25 years.

Anything Else / Re: Be careful what you wish for...
« on: March 08, 2023, 10:32:03 AM »
Granted, but all changes are now sanctioned by HiG and go through a 9 month committee process. Also publisher don't renew their license because they are no longer in control of their rule books. HiG is unable to sustain themselves under the new production criteria, so sell the franchise to a well known publishing house that ends the terms the wikicarpedia introduced.

I wish publisher continue to publish Carcassonne for another 25 years.

A set that includes mythical beasts from European folk-law from countries that publish Carcassonne would be cool. Famous legends like Beowulf, or even the Sasquatch.


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