Clarification of rules (The Bets) - with HiG - 02 11 2022 & 15 07 2024

[Meepledrone]

I sent a couple of questions about The Bets to HiG and we got the following clarification from Johannes Natterer and Andreas Kramer (HiG) in 2022. Later the same issue was revisited with Andreas Kramer in 2024.

Following Kettlefish's tradition...

Question in BLUE

Answer in GREEN

Still open in RED

My own comments in MAROON


PS: Updated after new answers.

Linkback: https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=6146.0

[Meepledrone]

[Q1]  In 3. Score points, the rules say: "If several features with the same betting chips involved are being scored within the same turn, the player whose turn it is decides which feature the chips are being scored for". If a similar situation happens at the end of the game (e.g. two incomplete cities share a betting office with bets), who makes this decision for the final scoring? Note that players may not reach an agreement by themselves due to opposed interests.

[A1] In this case, each player decides for themselves in the final scoring.

During the final scoring, each player scores their remaining bets individually. If a bet is applicable to more than one road and/or city, the player will choose one of those features on their own (no collective decision is made per betting office in this case).

[Meepledrone]

[Q2] There are several tiles where the field connectivity between the city and the tent of the betting office has fueled a debate (the field seems to be connected but the tent or the flag on top seem to interrup it).  Could you check the tiles with comments in the image attached? We would appreciate your comments.

[A2] The rule is that all betting office places separates the meadows. The graphics are not that clear, that’s right. But it is the same rule for all tiles.


Note: This answer was very little specific and mislading. So this issue was revisited with a more detailed approach in 2024. Please see next post.

[Meepledrone]

[Q3] Please have a look at the image below with some areas marked in different colors and the comments for each one. You'll find:
i) 3 areas marked in red where we understand the fields are separated. We ask for confirmation in these cases.
ii) 1 area marked in yellow where we understand the field is not separated. We ask for confirmation in this case.
iii) 2 areas marked in blue where we are not sure. We ask for advice in these cases.


(click to zoom in/out)

Are the fields separated at the circled areas?
A = Not sure. There is a small gap. Please advice.
B = Yes, the dirt road serves as a separation
C = No, the is an important gap
D = Yes, the flag serves as a separation
E = Yes, the betting office and its flag serve as a separation
F = Not sure. There is a small gap with some dirt patches. Please advice.

[A3] This is the answer to your question:
i) Yes, this is correct. B, D and E are separated.
ii) This is correct, too. C is not separated.
iii) F isn’t easy, that’s right. A is not separated and F should be not separated either.

As you can see, the fields separation at the circled areas will be as follows:
A = No, there is a small gap
B = Yes, the dirt road serves as a separation
C = No, the is an important gap
D = Yes, the flag serves as a separation
E = Yes, the betting office and its flag serve as a separation
F = No, there is a small gap not blocked by the dirt patches

[Paloi Sciurala]

[Q3] Please have a look at the image below with some areas marked in different colors and the comments for each one. You'll find:
i) 3 areas marked in red where we understand the fields are separated. We ask for confirmation in these cases.
ii) 1 area marked in yellow where we understand the field is not separated. We ask for confirmation in this case.
iii) 2 areas marked in blue where we are not sure. We ask for advice in these cases.


(click to zoom in/out)

Are the fields separated at the circled areas?
A = Not sure. There is a small gap. Please advice.
B = Yes, the dirt road serves as a separation
C = No, the is an important gap
D = Yes, the flag serves as a separation
E = Yes, the betting office and its flag serve as a separation
F = Not sure. There is a small gap with some dirt patches. Please advice.

[A3] This is the answer to your question:
i) Yes, this is correct. B, D and E are separated.
ii) This is correct, too. C is not separated.
iii) F isn’t easy, that’s right. A is not separated and F should be not separated either.

As you can see, the fields separation at the circled areas will be as follows:
A = No, there is a small gap
B = Yes, the dirt road serves as a separation
C = No, the is an important gap
D = Yes, the flag serves as a separation
E = Yes, the betting office and its flag serve as a separation
F = No, there is a small gap not blocked by the dirt patches

Is this correct?

[Meepledrone]

Yes, itis correct!