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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2021, 03:43:37 AM »
https://cundco.de/detail/index/sArticle/390/sCategory/14

The expansion is composed by 25 cards and no tiles :o

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #31 on: October 11, 2021, 04:15:04 AM »
Thanks for the heads-up @inigomartinez!

Not only that, the rules are available for download only!

This is the product (incomplete) description:

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Product information "Carcassonne - The Gifts".
With this mini-expansion for our 20th Carcassonne anniversary, you can receive gifts if you help your fellow players ...

The link to the game rules can be found below. [not available yet]

Content: 25 cards "Gifts" (game rules for download only).

So it seems the cards are dealt when a player helps another. No cards dealt at the beginning of the game or when playing a certain tile (no tiles included in the expansion).

EDIT: Extended last comment.
« Last Edit: October 11, 2021, 04:47:18 AM by Meepledrone »
Questions about rules? Check WICA: wikicarpedia.com

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #32 on: October 11, 2021, 06:25:24 AM »
Looks like I was right.

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #33 on: October 11, 2021, 07:16:11 AM »
I wonder how vague they'll define "help a fellow player". I forsee people drawing just those single road tiles and putting it on someone's road and getting a gift. To me that's kinda soft but we'll see.

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #34 on: October 11, 2021, 08:02:09 AM »
Looks like I was right.

Spot on!  :(y) :(y)

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #35 on: October 11, 2021, 08:35:34 AM »
Looks nice, and the rules are quite clearly explained. Still some questions are turning in my mind  :yellow-meeple:

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #36 on: October 11, 2021, 10:04:32 AM »
The miniexpansion is simple and with simple rules. The rules are simpler than those for messages (a combination of gifts and messages would be interesting) or the city of Carcassonne. The bonuses are simple and easy to us, but it would be annoying to reshuffle the tower dispenser.
The "The Gifts" page from WICA ant the references guides from WICA must be updated.
I would like a 6th type of cardː Receive an official clarification from HiG.
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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #37 on: October 11, 2021, 10:29:56 AM »
Any news on when It will be available?  :o

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #38 on: October 11, 2021, 10:53:12 AM »
Any news on when It will be available?  :o
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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2021, 11:34:26 AM »
The miniexpansion is simple and with simple rules. The rules are simpler than those for messages (a combination of gifts and messages would be interesting) or the city of Carcassonne. The bonuses are simple and easy to us, but it would be annoying to reshuffle the tower dispenser.

Gifts are opened before placing a tile in 1. Placing a tile. Messages are received after 3. Scoring a feature only (as per the last clarifications). So no side effects for the time being.

The "The Gifts" page from WICA ant the references guides from WICA must be updated.

Working on it.  ;D

I would like a 6th type of cardː Receive an official clarification from HiG.

There is a waiting line for this last wish! If you wanna join, you are most welcome  ;D

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2021, 11:54:24 AM »
The miniexpansion is simple and with simple rules. The rules are simpler than those for messages (a combination of gifts and messages would be interesting) or the city of Carcassonne. The bonuses are simple and easy to us, but it would be annoying to reshuffle the tower dispenser.

Gifts are opened before placing a tile in 1. Placing a tile. Messages are received after 3. Scoring a feature only (as per the last clarifications). So no side effects for the time being.
WICA does not reflect that: https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Messages#Rounds_of_Scoring.

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #41 on: October 11, 2021, 12:04:34 PM »
Road sweeper and inns... a strategical move.

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2021, 12:06:31 PM »
"This expansion was developed for the Carcassonne base game and its rules still apply. You can combine The Gifts with
other expansions; however, there will be no official rules for these combinations. "

Of course.

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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2021, 12:19:11 PM »
Now that we know the rules, I can confidently say that this expansion will be one of the best produced for Carcassonne in a long time.
The effects of the cards on their own are extremely versatile and potent, not to mention combinations and interactions with other expansions. The pontential is immense, especially thanks to the selective nature of activation - play the card when you decide is the best time to do it. Easily one of the most tactical and even strategic Carcassonne expansions yet.
And do not be fooled by the altruistic stipulation of the gift recieving. The "help" the rules define will almost never be actually beneficial to the player being "helped". It just means that when you mess the other players up with your tile placement , now you will even be rewarded with a gift   ;D >:D The power level of Gifts is enormous.
The Gifts expansion will no doubt be one of the meanest and most brutal additions to the world of Carcassonne (at least for competitive players) and I am looking forward to my copy  :(y)
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Re: The Gifts - New mini expansion announced
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2021, 03:06:58 PM »
Easily one of the most tactical and even strategic Carcassonne expansions yet.
Yes!  Super interesting.

You are playing a card game on top of Carc!  In a two-player game, as the Gifts are distributed, you will eventually know exactly what cards are in your opponent’s hand!  Early in the game, you could “bluff” by not sweeping a road in the hope that the opponent would think you don’t have that card?

I think the “take 2” cards are relatively weak.  “Cash out” gives a disincentive to huge city fights, which I think are often unpleasant.  “Change the lie” lets you invade a city with just one tile—wow!  I think “Synod” is a great complement to Abbot.  And “Road Sweep” seems to make roads really important.

I may make my own temporary set of Gift cards with an old deck of playing cards and give it a try…

Thanks for sharing this!

Link to English rules for anyone who missed it:
https://cundco.de/media/pdf/ff/fb/1b/Gifts-EN-carc_mini-2021_geschenke_regel_PROD-EN.pdf


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