Author Topic: CarcassonneCentral World Cup - Group C (Read 35391 times)

danisthirty · « **Reply #45 on:** August 22, 2014, 02:08:17 PM »

Ouch - that is a huge margin! Well done both, let's see what happens against mas9dj...

danisthirty · « **Reply #46 on:** August 27, 2014, 05:30:46 AM »

The final match of this group excites me so much that I've done a bit of number-crunching! Hopefully somebody will correct me if I'm wrong, but by my calculations...

- If quevy wins against mas9dj OR loses by 88 points or less he will qualify for the knock-out stage.

- If he loses by exactly 89 points then farin could still qualify if quevy scores less than 99 points in his game with mas9dj (otherwise quevy will qualify ahead of him based on the second tie-breaker).

- If quevy loses by 90 – 95 points, farin will qualify.

- If quevy loses by 96 points, mas9dj could qualify ahead of farin if he scores 191 points or more (otherwise farin will qualify ahead of him)

- If quevy loses by 97 points or more, mas9dj will qualify.

mas9dj · « **Reply #47 on:** August 27, 2014, 12:48:37 PM »

Final game of the group ended up as my win:

mas9dj 157 - quevy 131

Finally I couldn't achieve to win by 97 but I leave this World Cup happy to have won at least 2 games and draw at 6 points with the rest. Such a hard group with fierce competition. Congratulations go to quevy for qualifying for next round. Best of luck in the tounament phase for jungleboy and quevy as our representatives from group C!!

quevy · « **Reply #48 on:** August 27, 2014, 01:32:11 PM »

Has been a good game, the luck in the draw tiles was similar.
I have had the advantage of playing in defense.
It was enough that I did not lose too score difference, I was not even motivated to reach the first position, as it was impossible.

danisthirty · « **Reply #49 on:** August 28, 2014, 04:05:54 AM »

Final standings:

mas9dj · « **Reply #50 on:** August 28, 2014, 08:49:45 AM »

It was a very tight group. I was wondering how would the standings be if we only considered direct matches between quevy, farin and me. Since we all lost to jungleboy and all won to yellow, you might say the difference came from our matches, but it actually didn't. As you can see here, if you were to consider only our direct matches, farin would have passed. I know the criteria for draws is not this one (in some competitions it is), but I just thought it was curious how games played against other players not involved in the fight for 2nd place affected the result.

danisthirty · « **Reply #51 on:** August 28, 2014, 09:10:06 AM »

Hey mas9dj! Although that’s certainly an interesting perspective, I don’t think you can view this simply as a fight for 2nd between three people.

From the start it was a 5-way fight for 1st or 2nd and every point won or lost should be as significant as any other regardless of who it was against. Excluding points scored against or lost to someone simply because it later transpires that they definitely would or wouldn’t qualify doesn’t seem fair or sensible to me.

It’s not like you can say “he’s the best and he’s the worst so what about the rest of us?” Part of what defines who the better player is is determined by how close they were to beating the “best” player and by how much they beat the “worst” player.

Quevy earnt his advantage by beating Yellow by such a huge margin and deserved his points – I don’t think they should be discounted.

mas9dj · « **Reply #52 on:** August 28, 2014, 10:01:09 AM »

Of course not, performance in ALL matches is important. My point was just that when it came to the ones that finally drew at 6 points, there wasn't as big a difference, just that.