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PapaGeek:
You can place your wagon on a tile just like placing a meeple, and it does count as a single meeple for scoring and control of the feature.

Builders can be added to features that you control, but I don’t see anything on WikiCarPedia that specifically says that you can add your builder to your wagon controlled feature and then get builder second turns.

Is this legal?


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Snearone:
Yes, wagon is considered as meeple, but with extra moving mechanic and inability to place on a farm.

Meepledrone:
Builders can be placed with any meeple in a city or on a road. Builders are special figures, not meeples.

The rules of any expansion are always written as if you were playing with the base game only... So you, as a seasoned player and rules interpreter, must infer -according to HiG's standards- that when the rules say meeple, you must assume any meeple unless stated otherwise or any constraints apply.

Please check this set of extended comments I prepared for the base game when combined with expansions. I will add it the the main Base Game page eventually:

https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Base_Game_-_Test#Interactions_with_expansions

One of the points deals with the meeple denomination.

General notes:
* A meeple is:
   - A normal meeple (Base Game)
   - An abbot meeple (Basr Game  - The Abbot)
   - A large meeple (Exp. 1 - Inns & Cathedrals)
   - A wagon (Exp. 5 - Abbey & Mayor)
   - A mayor (Exp. 5 - Abbey & Mayor)
   - A ringmaster (Exp. 10 - Under the Big Top)
   - A phantom (The Phantom)
* A special figure is:
   - A builder (Exp. 2 - Traders & Builders)
   - A pig(Exp. 2 - Traders & Builders)
   - A barn (Exp. 5 - Abbey & Mayor)
   - A shepherd (Exp. 5 - Hills & Sheep)
   - A messenger (Mini #2 - Messages) - on the scoreboard
   - A robber (Mini #6 - Robbers) - on the scoreboard
* A neutral figure is:
   - The fairy (Exp. 3 - The Princess & the Dragon)
   - The dragon (Exp. 3 - The Princess & the Dragon)
   - A tower floor (Exp. 4 - The Tower)
   - The Count (Exp. 6 - Count, King & Robber)
   - A bridge (Exp. 8 - Castles, Bridges & Bazaars)
   - The Big Top (Exp. 10 - Under the Big Top)
   - The Big Pink Pig (The Wheel of Fortune)
   - The special die (Mini #1 - Flier)
   - A ferry (Mini #3 - Ferries)
   - A gold ingot (Mini #4 - Goldmines)
   - The Mage (Mini #5 - Mage & Witch)
   - The Witch (Mini #5 - Mage & Witch)
   - The teacher (The School)
   - The Gingerbread Man (Winter Edition - The Gingerbread Man)

This page may help you solve some issues about do's and don'ts regarding figures:

https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Game_Figures

Bumsakalaka:
Hmm. I dont like including die, tower pieces, bridges or gold ingolrs to neutral figures.
What about to add them to special category like game equipment or something like that?

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Meepledrone:
In BB6/BB7, they are referred to as "neutral figures/pieces."

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