Author Topic: Top 10 Games - FINAL POLL (Read 10045 times)

franks · « **Reply #15 on:** June 08, 2017, 09:38:29 AM »

Dirk, I wouldn't let the reviews scare you off. It's not that bad. I think part of the bad press is a confusion on the use of the Jewelry, (they are not used like the other resources). Once you have that down, it just adds another dimension to the game.

Though again, if you haven't over played the base game it's not necessary! We love it and so does Sam Healey of the Dice Tower, check out his video if you can. Sorry I'm on a Mobile and don't have time to provide a link!

Cheers,

dirk2112 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 08, 2017, 10:09:06 AM »

Quote from: franks on June 08, 2017, 09:38:29 AM

Though again, if you haven't over played the base game it's not necessary! We love it and so does Sam Healey of the Dice Tower, check out his video if you can. Sorry I'm on a Mobile and don't have time to provide a link!

Cheers,

That is actually the video I watched that talked me out of getting the expansion

Like I said, if I see it on sale, I will pick it up. The base game has been easy to find lately due to the reprint. The expansion is still hard to find.

danisthirty · « **Reply #17 on:** June 08, 2017, 02:00:03 PM »

Quote from: Paul on June 07, 2017, 06:17:10 AM

2. Tile game, sort of: Catan. As mentioned in another post, this is the official name for the game. "Settlers of" has been removed.

I'd seen that too. Makes me wonder what other games could do the same? I overheard a conversation at the UK Games Expo suggesting that Ticket to Ride is going to be renamed simply "Ticket". On the other hand, people have been talking for years about "Poker: The Card Game". I didn't realise it at the time but it's actually the same thing as just normal Poker. Still, it leaves room for a dice version which might be a nice alternative for some people...

Hounk · « **Reply #18 on:** June 08, 2017, 02:25:52 PM »

"Würfelpoker" (= Poker Dice) is actually quite common in Austria. It's more like Yahzee then Poker, though. Only difference being, that the dice don't have pits, but 9, 10, Jack, Queen, King and Ace on them.

Decar · « **Reply #19 on:** June 09, 2017, 02:40:42 AM »

I'm holding out for 'Poker:The poking game' hitting kickstarter soon. It's great to see so many Spiel Des Jahres nominations/recommendations or winners in this poll:

7 Wonders Duel - 2016 Kennerspiel des Jahres Recommended
Thurn & Taxis - 2006 Spiel des Jahres Winner
Splendor - 2014 Spiel des Jahres Nominee
Pandemic - 2009 Spiel des Jahres Nominee
Settlers of Catan - 1995 Spiel des Jahres Winner
Stone Age - 2008 Spiel des Jahres Nominee
Colt Express - 2015 Spiel des Jahres Winner
Cacao - 2015 Spiel des Jahres Recommended
Codenames -2016 Spiel des Jahres Winner
Isle of Skye - 2016 Kennerspiel des Jahres Winner
7 Wonders - 2011 Spiel des Jahres Kennerspiel des Jahres Winner
Dominion - 2009 Spiel des Jahres Winner
Kingdom Builder - 2012 Spiel des Jahres Winner
Rummikub - 1980 Spiel des Jahres Winner
Castles of Burgundy - 2011 Spiel des Jahres Recommended
Alhambra - 2003 Spiel des Jahres Winner
Ticket to Ride - 2004 Spiel des Jahres Winner
Kingdomino - 2017 Spiel des Jahres Nominee

Only two games don't have anything: Poker & Santorini. Surprised that Santorini hasn't had any nominations for any awards!

Decar · « **Reply #20 on:** June 11, 2017, 02:26:40 AM »

With only 6 days left to vote I've decided to make a table pulling in information from BGG Mechanisms descriptions for each of the games in our final list.

Set Collection and Hand Management seems to be our favourite mechanisms. Pandemic and Settlers of Catan use the most mechanisms.

The table makes for some interesting comparisons:

franks · « **Reply #21 on:** June 11, 2017, 07:57:54 AM »

Quote from: Decar on June 11, 2017, 02:26:40 AM

With only 6 days left to vote I've decided to make a table pulling in information from BGG Mechanisms descriptions for each of the games in our final list.

Set Collection and Hand Management seems to be our favourite mechanisms. Pandemic and Settlers of Catan use the most mechanisms.

I'm surprised Worker Placement ended up so far down the list. It seems to be a popular game format. I suppose there is a slight bit more complexity to the rule sets.

Decar · « **Reply #22 on:** June 11, 2017, 08:08:33 AM »

Yes I was surprised not to see more Worker Placement games (or mechanisms) appear in our final 20 games. Still at least Stone Age made the list. I wonder if it is because Worker Placement rarely stands up on it's own as a mechanic now; because it's hiding within other mechanics. I'd also argue that Area Control is a subset of Worker Placement....those dude's aren't just hanging around doing nothing.

Worker placement seems to be a mechanism that appears in heavier games of late. Having said that, and excuse the pun; it might be a good reason why I found Mint Works so refreshing.

Decar · « **Reply #23 on:** June 15, 2017, 07:04:45 AM »

Last few days to vote - Will Pandemic take the crown, or will Poker beat the newer contestants? Not long until you find out! All you're vote counts here!!

Decar · « **Reply #24 on:** June 19, 2017, 02:26:28 AM »

Totally forgot about this and I had a couple of people message me asking to vote. Given the importance I've extended the voting 1 more day!

Decar · « **Reply #25 on:** June 20, 2017, 07:19:38 AM »

and the results are in:

1) Ticket to Ride, Settlers of Catan - 12 votes
3) Pandemic, 7 Wonders - 11 votes
5) Dominion - 9 votes
6) Castles of Burgundy, Kingdomino - 8 votes
8)Poker, Splendor, Codenames, Isles of Skye - 7 votes
12) Stone Age, Colt Express, Cacao, Rummikub - 6 votes
16) Wonders Duel, Kingdom Builder - 5 votes
18) Santorini, Alhambra - 3 votes
20) Thurn & Taxis - 2 votes

So it looks like we have a tie for 1st and 2nd place as well as 3rd and 4th place. Given how closely these games are separated, I've decided to call one more vote to separate the for 4 spots.

Great to see Kingdomino doing so well, considering how new it is; but that may just be because more people have played this new title. It's also good to see classics like Dominion holding their own.

Were the results like what you expected? Were you disappointed by any of the game's positions? Were you one of the people who thought Poker was better than 7-Wonders Duel, Kingdom Builder and Stone Age?

Keep your eyes peeled for the Deciding Vote!

dirk2112 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 20, 2017, 08:09:36 AM »

I am really surprised to see Kingdomino up there. I guess Jungleboy found a way to vote 7 times!

In the USA, the top 5 games are readily available in places like Target and Walmart. Same with Codenames, Splendor, and of course Poker. They sit alongside Mousetrap, Life, and Monopoly. You need to go to a board game store to get Castles of Burgundy, Kingdomino, and Isle of Skye. So I would say those are the most popular lesser known games on this site.

jungleboy · « **Reply #27 on:** June 20, 2017, 11:42:07 AM »

I think it's somewhat disappointing that three of the four cornerstones of the modern board game industry were three of the four top vote-getters (the fourth of those being Carcassonne itself) and the other top four game is the No 1 family game on BGG. So it's a very conventional list and didn't really achieve what I hoped it would, which was to unearth lesser known games that are particularly well suited to Carcassonne fans (although it's Decar's project and not mine and maybe he had something different in mind anyway).

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Decar · « **Reply #28 on:** June 20, 2017, 12:16:30 PM »

Some good points Jungleboy. I had not necessarily hoped to find some hidden gems; but I had hoped it would construct a list of games that Carcassonne players liked. In a way, I'd hoped that maybe someone visiting us, would drop by and say: 'I like Carcassonne too, perhaps I'd like these other games'.

I had hoped that through identifying other games we'd identify some similarities about certain games we enjoy playing, whether it be tile laying or some other mechanic or theme. I think the Top10 did manage to show this, in a way. Carcassonne appeals to an extremely wide audience at many different levels. For example: It's a popular strategy game, family game, relaxing game, abstract game and it adapts and shifts to the nature of the players.

So having pondered about what the results are showing us, it's not really a surprise to see that the games Carcassonne fans like would be games that....everyone does. They're generic good-games. The appeal of these games is similar. I think the populace we're asking come from such a big range of people, each with their own specialist and niches requirements. As such those needs become homogenised, or lost...we're left with those games everyone's played....like poker.

I think most of the early rounds allowed people to express the love for those special games they love, even though they wouldn't make it into the final ( Subbuteo

), so I'm glad we had chance to look at every game at least!

Which leaves to me say thank you to everyone who has shared their love for their nominations and taking the time to describe the games they like. I'd urge everyone to take another look at the early-rounds and if they see a game they nominated to take a few minutes to write a few words of support for them, maybe include a picture..it's never too late!

wolnic · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2017, 04:50:45 PM »

Actually I was thinking of doing that for some of my nominations, just in case folks hadn't heard of them before. I also had a nose around Amazon and found quite a few of them don't appear to be available, or only as second hand or stupidly priced.

I was also surprised by some omissions from the nominations - Scrabble and Talisman spring to mind although, again, they're fairly old - like me!

A work colleague has been raving about Great Western Trail - haven't seen mention of it in any posts here. Anyone tried it?

Thanks for running the poll, Decar.