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Carc Central Community => Online Games and Competitions => Leagues (including expansion leagues) => Topic started by: danisthirty on March 03, 2015, 10:33:54 PM
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Inns & Cathedrals League: Group B
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/IandC_GroupB.jpg)
Please use this thread (or Private Messages) to arrange matches between players and to post scores/ match reports afterwards.
Good luck everyone!
PS - Anyone wishing to take part in a game should follow the link below in order to meet with others in the "pre-game chat":
http://sydby.com/carcassonne/irc/index.html
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I can play today during the day.
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As before, after 6pm I'm available to about Midnight, weekdays except Wednesdays.
I'll be going in to irc chat when I am available then.
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I can also play today .
Before 7
Good luck everyone!
:meeple:
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I don't think I'll be available before 7pm today. Tomorrow evening will be a bit better for me but if I'm free before 10pm this evening (UK time) I will stop by the chat room to see if anybody is around...
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I can play every weekday after 9pm or weekends before noon.
Dan, we play tonight?? :)
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I can play every weekday after 9pm or weekends before noon.
Dan, we play tonight?? :)
I was hoping we could put off our game until I've figured a way of rigging the tiles in my favour. This will require learning Java so I'm going to need at least 2 or 3 months before I can play you Jere, sorry! ;)
In all seriousness, I don't know what tonight is going to be like as wifey isn't feeling well and so will probably be hogging the laptop for the evening. If I do manage to book it for an hour or so (you'll be the last first to know)... :(y)
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First game of Group B (of the league?):
jma03 vs. Hounk
Tough battle for the main farm. I got lucky, drawing a CRRR to block Jacobo's Big Guy, otherwise the game would have gone different. The uncompleted city on the left was growing big under construction by Jacobo, before I took the risk of throwing the cathedral inside, planning to make it uncompleteable. Then, when an option came, I rather tried to sneak in with my big guy. It took me quite long, to draw the required CCXX to get in and wasted a few tiles, which could have been used to close the city below, because the two city CCFF did not show up yet, and the risk was high, that Jacobo would use to block me out and complete the city himself. However, when he draw the tile, he rather used it for getting another farmer on the field. Not a bad choice, but I once again got a spare one inside on the bottom of the board, while he failed to join his one, because I draw the FFRR on my last tile, he would have needed.
Sidenote: my knight in the small cathedral city was pure accident, a few tiles before the end. My computer got slow, so I pressed another time on the mouse button. Luckily, this had no real importance for the outcome of the game.
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53 points with cloisters? Impressive, Jacobo! :(y)
Congratulations on first I&C League win, Hounk! :)
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In all seriousness, I don't know what tonight is going to be like as wifey isn't feeling well and so will probably be hogging the laptop for the evening. If I do manage to book it for an hour or so (you'll be the last first to know)... :(y)
Run her a hot bath, make her some tea, send her to bed early, and then play your game with Jéré while she's asleep. I mean, this is just Husbandry 101, isn't it? O0
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In all seriousness, I don't know what tonight is going to be like as wifey isn't feeling well and so will probably be hogging the laptop for the evening. If I do manage to book it for an hour or so (you'll be the last first to know)... :(y)
Run her a hot bath, make her some tea, send her to bed early, and then play your game with Jéré while she's asleep. I mean, this is just Husbandry 101, isn't it? O0
I'm not sure whether I should be offended: https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=1DP3VPXNEKWH8QeCkoDQBg&gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=husbandry
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I'm not sure whether I should be offended: https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=1DP3VPXNEKWH8QeCkoDQBg&gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=husbandry
Whoops, I guess that wasn't the right word :) Husbanding 101? Marriage 101?
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congratulations hounk¡¡¡¡
if 53 points in cloisters , jajaj touched me most .
medium difficult game because the game had complicated ( with farms ) , hounk made me unable to connect ( meeple double) and the cathedral 's left me outside juego.la only hope was that the two tiles last bend and touch me so we could have equalized with farms .
better game of hounk¡¡¡
by the way I have to practice more because I have a couple of years playing with my friends expansions traders and constructores- Abbey and Mayor and bridge - castles - bazaars.
btw I have two doubts :
-to capture screen is f12 but the catch breakdown of punctuation is reflected .
to do to display the punctuation ??
which means the acronym CRRR , CCXX .. ?? I imagine they are formacines the game.
as a result to understand ??
:meeple:
tomorrow I will be also available if anyone wants to play.
good afternoon
:meeple:
regards :meeple:
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So many completed monasteries! Impressive! We will call you the Inquisitor from Spain. :) In my game against you I will build a big city in the south of the board and call it in the Alhambra.
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hahaha¡¡¡¡
that great " Jere "
Alhambra is beautiful , I recommend it .
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I've been there! ...and I drank water from the fountain that means one day I will go back. :)
Somebody brave enough to play against me tonight? (That excludes Dan I guess...) Otherwise tomorrow?
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Thanks, jma03!
The acronyms are:
R ... Road
F ... Field
C ... City
X ... any configuration.
So a cathedral will be a CCCC tile, the starting tile is a CRFR, etc. It's always considering the edges, going clockwise.
Are you still available, Jéré?
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Yes I can be in the chat in about 15 min.
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Great!
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Farin? It says "server maintenance" when we try to connect. How long it will take? Someone could host us perhaps?
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Hi Yellow,
can you host a game for some members?
They are in the chatroom.
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Hi Yellow,
can you host a game for some members?
They are in the chatroom.
I can't host. New internet provider haven't set up the router yet. Also on my phone atm as my computer is doing video editing atm.
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Thanks for letting us know. :) we wait until 10pm to see if someone will come or if Farin's maintenance will be completed.
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Yes, thank you.
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Jéré 139 - Houk 90
Houk had a very good start. Took control of the fields and even trapped one of my meeples quite early in the game. I had the feeling he was in control of the game and this was confirmed when he felt confident enough to close one of my city with cathedral (I think it was to have more completed cities in his field). I have been patient and waited for the perfect occasion to invade his fields... meanwhile I trapped some of his guys so at the end I managed to gain almost all points from the farmers, avoiding Houk's attempt to block my double meeple from connecting his field. Great game Houk!
Merit to Dan for coming to the rescue and host our game. :)
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/04/6aa809641a84d7b577ab014e3a621792.jpg)
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Yes, definitive merit to Dan for that. We didn't really think, this game would happen tonight.
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So This was my first game from this league.
It was a good start by me by closing a cathedral city for 33 points at the beginning. It continued to be fairly consistant and I keep hold of my lead throughout. There were a few moments when the scores were getting much closer and i was hoping Hounk wouldnt get the one tile that would screw me - he didnt!
Thanks Hounk
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Congrats Rosco! How did you play your game finally? Server maintenance was finished or someone came to host?
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Yes, definitive merit to Dan for that. We didn't really think, this game would happen tonight.
Wow - someone actually gave me merit as well; it's been a long time since that happened! ;D
I would have liked to have watched the whole game as it was played but unfortunately I had to go out to the shop. Hounk was in a very strong position when I left though, so I really rushed around the shop to get back and see the rest of it but it was over by the time I got back.
Congratulations to Jere and Rosco on your wins (what were the scores in your game Rosco? I can't make them out from the screenshot) and commiserations to Hounk on your losses, hopefully the games were enjoyable despite this?
I may be able to get a couple of games in this evening. I will aim to get into the chat room at about 9pm, see you there... :)
EDIT: Forgot to mention our first game! Well done on your victory here Hounk, and sorry for your loss jma03. I hope you enjoyed the game anyway and are looking forward to your next game...
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Score can be read pretty easy on the right side of the screen shot: 179:105.
And yes, I enjoyed the games. I made some big mistakes (in most cases, like when not connecting a farm with a straight road against Jéré, I noticed, right after the placement), which is something, you just can't do, if you want to have a chance to win against very strong opponents like Jéré and Rosco. Nevertheless, they had been both good games. :)
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hello , these days to play online carcassonne in jcloister used, because the host -game option is not how it works .
3.1.1 jcloister me down today but I can not use it online .
farin to see if I can help with this. ;)
thank you very much
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I'm not sure, how much time I will have in the next few days, so if possible, I would love to have at least one, maybe even two or three of my outstanding games tonight. So Dan, farin and Yellow: who of you would have time and at what time would suite you best?
By the way, I yesterday d/l 3.1.1 and Rosco and me were playing our game with that version. Nice with password protection and board rotation. :(y)
@ Jacobo: I can not connect to the server now as well, but I think, that has nothing to do with the version number, rather with the server.
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someone who wants to play now until 8 ???
I'll be by chat
:D
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Hi Hounk,
I ought to be available this evening but can’t be 100% what time it will be. Hopefully it shouldn’t be any later than 9pm, but if you’re playing someone else then I’d be happy to hang around until you’ve finished as long as you don’t mind a late night!
I will download 3.1.1 beforehand so we will both be using the same version...
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I can play tonight after 9pm. Let me know!
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Dan, you mean 9 pm your time (GMT), so 10 pm my time (CET)?
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Yes, 9pm my time. Possibly as early as 8 but that depends on how well the kids go to bed so I'm not going to make any promises!
@Jere - I'll give Hounk first refusal since he's going away soon, otherwise it'll be you and me!
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Going away does not happen that soon, but an uncle of mine will have a visit, so my time might be a little more restricted, than I thought before. Still, I think, there will be no trouble, that I get my three remaining games through, considering my opponents have time.
10 won't be a problem for me. I will still check before, if you are there, or maybe Yellow or farin.
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Really sorry. :( Since getting home I've been informed that we have people coming round later, so the earliest I'll be able to do is about 9:45/ 10ish my time. I appreciate that this will probably be too late for you Hounk/ Jere since you're an hour ahead but I'll be on IRC as soon as I can so if either of you are available then I will be up for a game.
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Actually, 11 my time will still be no problem for me, if it is not to late for you.
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danisthirty vs. Hounk
Well to say, I was lucky with the tiles in this game is rather understating. Nearly (the sole exception was the second cloister with a road) whenever Dan blocked me in a way, that there was just one tile left, I could use, I got this tile eventually, in the smaller cathedral city even twice. And often even quite soon. Or I got a tile to evade a trap, before it was ready set. I won the bigger cathedral city quite early in the game, and the big city next to it soon afterwards. In the end, Dan was catching up a little bit by winning the farm battle, but it was not enough for him.
Thanks Dan anyway for a great game. He never gave up and did the best with the tiles he got.
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This wasn't quite the start I was hoping for as nothing seemed to work out for me. I got off to an appalling start after being out-competed for two valuable cities and spent the rest of the game playing catch-up.
At one point I was over 100 points behind and didn't have a share in the main farm either. The fact that I was able to win it outright using my large follower made all the difference, but not enough. :'(
Thanks Dan anyway for a great game. He never gave up and did the best with the tiles he got.
It was a pretty demoralising game for me but I came away from it feeling that a 57-point loss wasn't so bad considering how it could have gone! Despite having the "luck of the draw" on his side though, Hounk played a consistently strong game and deserved the win. :) :(y)
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Upcoming scheduled games:
Farin vs. Jéré : Tonight 21:00
jma03 vs Jéré : Sunday 11:00
Yellow vs Jéré : Monday 21:00
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if anyone can play now, i am around until 3 my time.
Otherwise it will have to be monday on as i am working nights!
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if anyone can play now, i am around until 3 my time.
Otherwise it will have to be monday on as i am working nights!
Sorry mate. I'm at work...
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hi
still can not connect online with jcloister .
there is a problem with the server or the program?
or is a mistake on my computer? :'(
:meeple:
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hi
still can not connect online with jcloister .
there is a problem with the server or the program?
or is a mistake on my computer? :'(
:meeple:
Yes there is a problem with the server. Farin is working on it at the moment.
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Farin 116 - Jéré 123
Extremely tough game. As I said to Farin in the chat, I have the feeling I do not deserve the win. I believe that he played much better than I did. At the very least it should have been a draw, certainly not a win for me. Sorry Farin and best of luck for your other games.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/06/cfa409001ce5ebe60bd0971316b4fc90.jpg)
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Great game with Jere. It was the one where your properly choose every tile. I must remember than chance greater then 75% to clear win is not enough, you must not let up and prepare for bad scenario.
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And my second match today
White wine (farin) vs Red wind (yellow) :-)
158 - 91 for great moravia white :)
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hi
still can not connect online with jcloister .
there is a problem with the server or the program?
or is a mistake on my computer? :'(
:meeple:
Yes there is a problem with the server. Farin is working on it at the moment.
ok :(y) :meeple:
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Yellow vs. Hounk
So red wine won against sober this time. Very similar game to my one against Dan yesterday. Only, yellow did not pick tons of lucky tiles, but just one.
But that one won him the big cathedral city. He started his part of the city, where the pennants are, I my one on the other side. Then suddenly, he got the CCRR, which he put brilliantly next to the cloister with road, easy to connect to both districts and placed his big guy. And a few turns later, I got the cathedral and could not place it anywhere outside the city, so I put it where, it at least does not connect any meeples. But I could not block first the connection of the two yellow meeples, and I had not the amount of meeples to even try to fight back with a 3:1 majority, also placed my big guy on a field earlier. So my only chance was to make the city quickly as hard to complete as possible. I got a CRRR, than a cloister without road and made a neat CCRF hole with it, but Yellow got the one tile, that would fit inside and of course used it.
So the game was pretty much decided by this. After that, there was a big fight for the main farm, which I won in the end, but it was not enough. Well just like I said: very similarity to yesterday. So I take it as "evening out my luck of yesterday". I must still say, I enjoyed the game probably more, than Dan yesterday, because with just 45 points, the gap was not as big, the farm battle was entertaining, I just calculated in the end, that it won't be enough, but there still was some tension in the game to the end.
Very good played, :meeple:. Congratulations.
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Congratulations on your wins Jere, farin and Yellow :(y)
Hounk, you have now played everyone except for farin:
Hounk v jma03: 2 (+27)
Hounk v Jere: 0 (-49)
Hounk v Rosco: 0 (-74)
Hounk v danisthirty: 2 (+57)
Hounk v Yellow: 0 (-17)
Total: 4 league points (2 wins from 5 games)
Score differential: -56
Now that things have calmed down at home I should be available for a game this evening. I'll be in the chat room to see who is available as soon as I have a few hours to myself!
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Here comes the x-score list - IC-League-Group B 07 03 2015:
Hounk has played 5 games - his last game take place against farin.
All players in Group B have played at least one game.
There have been played 7 games total.
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Unfortunately I won't be available until Monday night. But I will be around to play a few matches then.
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Help!! jma03 and I are in the middle of a game and jma03 has internet connection issues and it seems we can't continue on JCZ server. Would someone be able to restore our saved game in host mode? Please!!
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sorry jere :'(
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Can a JCZ expert confirm this is possible? We plan to try again tonight at 21:00. Hopefully someone would be available to host. I can send saved game by email. Thanks
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Can a JCZ expert confirm this is possible? We plan to try again tonight at 21:00. Hopefully someone would be available to host. I can send saved game by email. Thanks
I'm not 100% certain but I think if you have a saved game it can be loaded on a host machine and the other two players can connect to it and continue where it left off. Although I've never tried this with a saved game taken from an online hosted game, I've hosted several games that have crashed (usually with Rosco for some reason) and in most cases I've been able to save, restart JCZ, load and then he has connected and we've picked-up exactly where we left off.
Please email me the save file and let me know when you plan to continue the game and I'll make sure it all goes ahead...
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We want to try again tonight at 21:00 our time. Is it convenient for you? Will email the file when I arrive home. Thanks!! :)
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So nobody posted the results of jma03 vs. Jéré and jma03 vs. danisthirty yet?
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Scores in the jma03 vs Jere games were 111 to 100 in jma03's favour. Sorry, but I didn't think to take screenshots...
I also played jma03 this evening and it was a tough game!
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jma03_scores.jpg)
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/jma03_map.jpg)
I think jma and I were fairly evenly matched but I took more chances than he did with cloisters and made more of an effort to trap his meeples; 3 of which were stuck from very early on in the game. What made the big difference for me was a big city that I won 2 knights against 1 after drawing both of the tiles I needed even though there was only one of each left. I also drew the remaining cloister (fffr) which helped me to steal the top farm worth 12 points with my large follower.
Sorry we couldn't play our game Jere. I am tired and wouldn't be able to focus on another game now. Plus I know you are a strong player so I want to make sure I can give you my best!
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Now Jacobo must reveal the secret of taking win from Jéré! ;)
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Now Jacobo must reveal the secret of taking win from Jéré! ;)
Their game crashed when they played previously but Jere saved it and emailed the file to me so I could load it and host for them. This worked, and meant that I watched the last half of their game. They both had the same score and just their double-meeple left at the restart which made me think there was a problem with the savegame file but then I saw that they were both playing exactly the same tactics and had meeples trapped by each other all over the board!
What made the biggest difference (in my opinion) was that there was only one cfrr tile left. If Jere had drawn it he could have won 20 points for himself (a small city and a medium-road with inn) plus got two meeples back. But jma drew it and so used it elsewhere. I think the outcome could have been very different if the luck had gone the other way.
Also, I think it's fair to point out that Jere was very sporting in his game as jma made a mistake with his first tile of the game after the reload (placing his only remaining meeple on the wrong part of a tile) but Jere was willing to offer that they restart it again even though the tile he drew after this was useful for him.
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I can play a couple of games tonight after 8 gmt.
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jma vs dan . a game that started well for me and then gave dan change game
2 meeples I were caught very early and the last castle close defined the game in your favor.good game dan¡¡¡¡
Now Jacobo must reveal the secret of taking win from Jéré! ;)
jma03 vs Jere
this game was something strange and foremost to thank Jere for fair play , so I jere a merit.
to give thanks to for hosting the game.
as has been well explained dan, the game was very even where all were locked meeples.
I can not explain very well the games because my English is regular and the translator brings me crazy .
I if I made a catch.
as I can catch up Jere jma vs ?? ?
I have it but as I do are just 192kb
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Today, Monday, after 6pm CET+1 I will be on idle mode during work and can squeeze in some games for the league.
I also have a scheduled match tonight.
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I also have a scheduled match tonight.
Excellent! :) Who are you playing against?
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I also have a scheduled match tonight.
Excellent! :) Who are you playing against?
;)
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?PHPSESSID=g9m5ra8dlv15a0cbjlt1crbqg0&topic=1587.msg20563#msg20563
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I can play a couple of games tonight after 8 gmt.
I may be around. Will see you in the chat room if possible!
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I also have a scheduled match tonight.
Excellent! :) Who are you playing against?
;)
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?PHPSESSID=g9m5ra8dlv15a0cbjlt1crbqg0&topic=1587.msg20563#msg20563
Cool. Best of luck to both players! :(y)
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reading my post I saw that I express bad .
I made a screenshots ( f12 ) to play Jere and jma03 .
I know is not as upload because only allows me 192kb .
as I can do ??
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I made a screenshots ( f12 ) to play Jere and jma03 .
I know is not as upload because only allows me 192kb .
as I can do ??
:meeple:
Try to reduce it with any graphical software. For example, you can use XnView (http://xnview.com). It's free for non-commercial use.
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I quite like Irfanview (http://www.irfanview.com/languages.htm). Also free for non commercial use and aviable in Spanish, too.
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I quite like Irfanview (http://www.irfanview.com/languages.htm). Also free for non commercial use and available in Spanish, too.
XnView also has Spanish translation, by the way :)
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Yellow vs Jéré.
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farin vs. Hounk
Lost my last game in this group now. Game was pretty much over, when farin managed to kill my big cathedral city because I put to much resource into that and he was clear in the lead by then. Tried to make at least sure, that I can complete the small one, but farin draw the last two CFFF, not that the 21 points would have done much difference.
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Hounk 83 - 157 Farin
Cathedaral battle ends with 0 points and trapped Hounk's double 20 tiles before end and from that time it was quite clear.
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Farin 131 - 82 Rosco
my second game today, another cathedral capture (2 followers more for Rosco inside)
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Here comes the x-score list - IC-League-Group B 09 03 2015:
Hounk has played all 6 games.
All players in Group B have played at least one game.
There have been played 12 games total.
The 13th game - between danisthirty and Jerè - is not yet finished.
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What a day! Wife got offered a job, I got a pay rise, and then I played two games of Carcassonne in one evening!
The first was against Rosco. I am no longer friends with Rosco:
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/lost_to_rosco.jpg)
This was a close game throughout but I managed to take overall control of the large city and then made it impossible to complete when Rosco tried to tie it with me. This guaranteed me the game as long as the farm remained tied. And it did, for quite a long time. But with about a dozen tiles left to go, Rosco spotted an excellent opportunity to take it for himself with his last meeple. Naturally I spent the rest of the game trying to stop him and was successful until the very last tile of the game which he used to win the farm outright for himself, cutting my score back by 30 points in the process. Like I said, we're no longer friends...
Since I was now having a bad night I decided I didn't mind it turning into a catastrophic night for me by losing to Jere as well. However, I was lucky enough to close a few small cities at first and began to build a small lead. Jere was on top trapping form and stranded one of my knights early on for just 1 point. He also went mad for the farm as it developed, committing 3 farmers fairly early on. I was able to match him for a while with my large meeple and a normal meeple but eventually he connected a 4th to win it outright for 27 points. By this point though, I had already built up a sufficient lead that kept me ahead even after the farm and as such I surprised myself with an 8-point victory!
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/IandC_Jere_scores.jpg)
(http://www.dan.tehill.net/IandC_Jere_map.jpg)
So basically I'm 2 wins, 2 losses and 2 games yet to play (Yellow and farin). My total score differential is currently sitting on -31 as well so I could do with my last 2 games being wins please guys!
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I made a screenshots ( f12 ) to play Jere and jma03 .
I know is not as upload because only allows me 192kb .
as I can do ??
:meeple:
Try to reduce it with any graphical software. For example, you can use XnView (http://xnview.com). It's free for non-commercial use.
ok thx :meeple:
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What a day! Wife got offered a job, I got a pay rise, and then I played two games of Carcassonne in one evening!
Congrats!
So now that you're getting paid more to write Carcassonne Central newsletters, I assume they'll be bi-monthly from now on? >:D
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So who's doing well so far? Farin, Rosco and Yellow have improved their ELO rating!
Farin +36 (4 games)
Rosco +18 (3 games)
Yellow +2 (3 games)
jma03 -7 (3 games)
Jéré -8 (5 games)
danisthirty -10 (4 games)
Hounk -31 (6 games)
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Congratulations dan¡¡¡¡
this afternoon I am available for a game from 5
:meeple:
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I will be available from about 2-4 then after 8
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So who's doing well so far? Farin, Rosco and Yellow have improved their ELO rating!
Farin +36 (4 games)
Rosco +18 (3 games)
Yellow +2 (3 games)
jma03 -7 (3 games)
Jéré -8 (5 games)
danisthirty -10 (4 games)
Hounk -31 (6 games)
Jéré, could you already calculate ELO ratings of the players after the T&B League? (If I'm not mistaken then you need those ratings to calculate the rating changes from the current league.)
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True, ratings from T&B league were taken into account. I'm waiting for Dan's green light before posting them.
edit: In fact, a yellow light would be even better :)
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True, ratings from T&B league were taken into account. I'm waiting for Dan's green light before posting them.
edit: In fact, a yellow light would be even better :)
:red-meeple:
:meeple: <--- we are here :)
:green-meeple:
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Jéré, could you already calculate ELO ratings of the players after the T&B League? (If I'm not mistaken then you need those ratings to calculate the rating changes from the current league.)
I can tell you that your ELO after the T&B League is 1214 (+14).
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On a slightly different note, has anyone dropped a farmer on the enclosed field within the cccc tile yet? There ought to be a bonus point for doing that as long as you complete all 4 of the surrounding cities individually.
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On a slightly different note, has anyone dropped a farmer on the enclosed field within the cccc tile yet? There ought to be a bonus point for doing that as long as you complete all 4 of the surrounding cities individually.
That just happened to me in the game I had with Rosco now . :D
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Well that was humiliating! JMA just trounced me completely although I do have the excuse that I played the game with a horible migraine which I still have as i am writing this!
He played well and made sure that i couldnt win my cathedral city and that meant i had too many meeples tied up in that 0 point city. He did manage to farm the cccc tile which was cool and closed three of the cities as well.
Anyway, sorry about a crappy report but I am going to bed.
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sorry ,
with "rosco"
I'll have to check the translator
sorry
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Jacobo is a good player. I don't think you should feel humiliated. Congrats Jacobo! Get well Rosco!
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"No shame in losing, nor fame in winning" - well played Jacobo! :(y) Bad luck Rosco :(
That makes 3 of us now in the 2 wins, 2 losses camp. All of us have negative score differentials but jma03 is leading us on -1, then Rosco on -8, then me on -31. Something else we 3 have in common is that none of us have played Yellow yet so there’s still everything to play for!
There are 6 5 4 matches left to play:
farin vs. danisthirty
jma03 vs. farin
Rosco vs. Jere
Yellow vs. danisthirty
Yellow vs. jma03
Yellow vs. Rosco
It’s also worth noting that farin is currently the only player who can reach 10 points (5 wins) as the rest of us already have at least 2 losses against us.
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Here comes the x-score list - IC-League-Group B 10 03 2015:
Hounk has played all 6 games.
All players in Group B have played at least 3 games.
jma03 has a score differencial -1 - played 4 games - 2 won - 2 lost.
There have been played 15 games total.
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Rosco is in the chatroom.
He needs to play against Jerè or against Yellow.
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I'm coming.
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Wow - what a game against Jere
That was intense - Jere is clearly a player of similar style but I think better than I. I was extremely lucky near the beginning to close a good 39 point cathedral city which set me up for the game. after that, the race for the big 12 city farm was on. Jere ended up with 5 farmers to my 3 which was down to a fairly lucky tile with about 12 to go. I thoroughly enjoyed the game and Jere is a true gentleman.
Now the competition for first place is sooooooo tight - I wouldnt want to call it.
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here is the map
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Jacobo is a good player. I don't think you should feel humiliated. Congrats Jacobo! Get well Rosco!
i would like to clarify that i dont feel humiliated at losing to JMA but for playing so bad and being beaten so convincingly - anyway, i dont really feel humiliated, I was just being dramatic!!
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Here comes the x-score list - IC-League-Group B 10 03 2015-1 - late evening (CET):
Hounk and Jerè have played all their 6 games.
All players in Group B have played at least 3 games.
There have been played 16 games total.
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ross congratulations for your game won¡¡¡¡
the league this interesting¡¡¡¡
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Yes indeed! Nobody has more than 3 wins yet.
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@kettlefish - I believe there is a slight mistake in your scoresheet. In one place, Jere vs Rosco is written as 123 - 139 but in the other place it is written as 139 - 127. The correct scores were 139 - 127 so Jere's total score and score differential will be out by 4 points.
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Wow - what a game against Jere
That was intense - Jere is clearly a player of similar style but I think better than I. I was extremely lucky near the beginning to close a good 39 point cathedral city which set me up for the game. after that, the race for the big 12 city farm was on. Jere ended up with 5 farmers to my 3 which was down to a fairly lucky tile with about 12 to go. I thoroughly enjoyed the game and Jere is a true gentleman.
Now the competition for first place is sooooooo tight - I wouldnt want to call it.
It was indeed a very good game! Rosco drew the perfect sequence of tiles, 3 in a row, first one being a city splitter to isolate my double meeple and score 45 points near the beginning of the game. (39pts for city and closing tile also finished a road with inn). Ouch! ...so for the rest of the game I had to recover from this.
I played very well, giving farming lessons to him ;) I trapped some of his guys too but at the end it did not suffice. :( sincere congratulations Rosco!
I'm not going to hide the fact that I'm dissapointed about my overall performance in this league. Small details made a BIG difference at the end but it's fine. The important is that I truly enjoyed participating and will follow with interest the remaining games, in the other groups as well. :)
Edit: my personal (secret) objective was to reach the top 4 so I clearly failed. Mind you, I will come back stronger. :)
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Jere ended up with 5 farmers to my 3 which was down to a fairly lucky tile with about 12 to go.
Could you elaborate on that? Not sure I understand. Are you talking about the tile you used to free up your double guy? Otherwise there was no luck involved in connecting the fileds (I needed a straight road plus a crrf and we had 3 left).
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I was talking about the crrf tile that connected your two farmers in one go. I hadnt realised there were so many left. it was a smart move helped a little by luck!
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Yellow - when are you available??
i need to try to beat you by a ton of points so i can put myself in a strong position for a league group win! But now i have said that I am bound to lose!
lets get it on!!
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I was talking about the crrf tile that connected your two farmers in one go. I hadnt realised there were so many left. it was a smart move helped a little by luck!
It's a question of perception :) I say that I would have been extremely unlucky not to join the fields. I even placed a fccc tile next to the spot, as counter-block measure, and to make sure one of the 3 crrf tiles would fit there! ;)
Anyway, it seems that it will be difficult to agree on what is lucky and what isn't. Remember at the beginning when you complained in the chat that you were so unlucky with the draws. Well I was trying to trap your meeples like a mad man and you always managed to escape! I said to myself "what is he complaining about?" Haha Always a matter of perception, I tell you. :)
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For what it’s worth, my perspective is that what’s done is done and there can be no going back. Winning or losing to someone doesn’t necessarily mean you’re any better or worse than your opponent, and sometimes you can be beaten by the tiles rather than the player.
In my experience, dealing with disappointment is a big part of the game when you play competitively, but you’re always heading in the right direction as long as you’re satisfied that you played the best game you could at the time, and can treat every defeat as a learning opportunity to help improve your decision-making process for the next game...
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@kettlefish - I believe there is a slight mistake in your scoresheet. In one place, Jere vs Rosco is written as 123 - 139 but in the other place it is written as 139 - 127. The correct scores were 139 - 127 so Jere's total score and score differential will be out by 4 points.
Sorry - here comes now the correct x-score list - IC league - group B - 10 03 2015-2
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when i wrote about being unlucky, i was, but then my luck improved for a while (massively) to close that nice juicy city.
But as we have said on here many times, luck is all very well but it is what you make of it. I have played lesser opponents than the likes of Dan or Jere who get the perfect trapping tile or the tile to join a farm or something and they place it somewhere else and i am left thinking - Uh? but that comes with experience and the acquisition of skill. Obviously Jere is a highly skilled player that even with my luck of closing that city he still came back and left a mere smidgen of points between us. I feel that with another 5 tiles, he would have won. A great opponent.
And Dan - luck does play a huge part in Carcassonne, doesn't it? ;)
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Yellow is in the chatroom this evening and waiting for an opponent to play a league game.
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Yellow is in the chatroom this evening and waiting for an opponent to play a league game.
Yellow is playing with Rosco now.
It is for Rosco the last game in the IC league group B
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And Dan - luck does play a huge part in Carcassonne, doesn't it? ;)
To be fair to you, as sick as it made me to see the final scores pop up in your favour I was pretty impressed at how you won it. You were behind and you knew it, but with about 15 or so tiles left to play you identified what you needed to do to win, you spotted an excellent opportunity to make it happen and you had the guts to risk your last meeple on it. As I was desperately trying to defend my position I drew at least 2 of the tiles that could have won it for you so it seems fair that you should have drawn one too.
None of this made it any easier to accept but in all fairness I did think you deserved the win if only for that final play!
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Yellow vs Rosco
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Here comes the x-score list - IC-League-Group B 11 03 2015:
Hounk,Jerè and Rosco have played all their 6 games.
All players in Group B have played at least 4 games.
There have been played 17 games total.
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Well done on reaching 4 wins Rosco. Commiserations Yellow...
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congratulations rosco¡¡¡
tomorrow I 'll be available to play with yellow and farin .
If you are also available let me know what time you come good.
thx
:meeple:
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Congrats Rosco! Well done! :)
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17 games played, 4 left to play.
To recap: Hounk, Jere and Rosco have now played all of their games scoring 2, 3 and 4 wins respectively. Jma03 and I are both currently sitting on 2 wins with 2 games to play so could potentially match Rosco’s 8 league points if we both win our outstanding matches (both of us need to play farin and Yellow).
Farin however has already won 3 games meaning he could potentially reach 5 wins and win the group on points if he beats both Jma03 and me. Even if he just beats one of us, he still stands a good chance of winning the group on total score differential.
Meanwhile, Yellow is just one win behind Jma03 and I meaning that he could still beat either/ both of us.
I will hopefully be available for my last two games from 8pm (UK time) this evening, and I’m very excited about it. This is going to be a long day in the office...
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ELO rating (only people who played all 6 games)
Jéré 1249 (-26)
Rosco 1212 (+30)
Hounk 1161 (-3 1)
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I'll most likely be on as well this Thursday, after 6pm to Midnight.
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I'll most likely be on as well this Thursday, after 6pm to Midnight.
Excellent. I think Farin is around too so I reckon we might get our group wrapped-up this evening.
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I from 6 am available too.
:meeple:
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help, paul and me I have we hung in a game.
be possible to fix it ??
I f12 and save
I can mail it
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Yellow vs jma03. Game got a bit bugged. We tried logging in but I ended up taking his points and vice versa.
Didn't know how to fix it so I'll forfeit this game. jma03 had already won anyway. 89 point is jma03's and 59 points is supposed to be mine.
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I would like to continue it. (7 tiles. )
these points are at the moment but there was more at stake.
would have any chance please?
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I would like to continue it. (7 tiles. )
these points are at the moment but there was more at stake.
would have any chance please?
Sorry to hear you were having trouble. What happened with this game in the end? Did you manage to complete it? Maybe farin can help restore the savegame to how it should be.
I was hoping to get a game and went on the chat room. There were several people there but nobody was talking so I left. I may be able to connect again later on but not sure...
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I would like to continue it. (7 tiles. )
these points are at the moment but there was more at stake.
would have any chance please?
Sorry to hear you were having trouble. What happened with this game in the end? Did you manage to complete it? Maybe farin can help restore the savegame to how it should be.
I was hoping to get a game and went on the chat room. There were several people there but nobody was talking so I left. I may be able to connect again later on but not sure...
I alt-tab every few mins in irc-chat while working. You left too quickly.
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Guys, if you enable notifications in the chat room, then whenever someone types your exact name, you get a pop-up message. We should all use this technique to get each other's attention in the chat room.
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I don't get a pop up, but a knacking or popping sound, easy to notice. For that, it is important, that there are no punctuation marks after the name, so you have to leave a space before a comma, otherwise I would not hear it.
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farin 149 - 80 jma03
I have one lucky draw of CCCR splitter getting me 36 points.
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congratulation farin¡¡¡
good game also
:meeple:
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Now I need yellow to beat Dan - and Dan to beat farin by about 200 points, the I will be top. Not going to happen I feel. Come on yellow! Come on Dan!
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I would like to continue it. (7 tiles. )
these points are at the moment but there was more at stake.
would have any chance please?
There are only 82 tiles on the board, and the main farm has not been scored. Yellow appears to be leading on farmers and it is worth 33 points which would give Yellow the lead. Plus he has a meeple in hand so it looks to me like this game is far from over. If anything, I think I'd rather be Yellow than Green, so I'm surprised anyone would want to forfeit it...
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I have one lucky draw of CCCR splitter getting me 36 points.
You mean CCCF, I suppose? :)
Looks like a nice game, Farin was king of the cities! :D
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Very impressed by Farin's tour de force in our group. Bravo.
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Here comes the x-score list - IC-League-Group B 12 03 2015:
Hounk,Jerè and Rosco have played all their 6 games.
All players in Group B have played at least 4 games.
There have been played 18 games total.
I left out the unfinished game between Yellow and jma03.
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I would like to continue it. (7 tiles. )
these points are at the moment but there was more at stake.
would have any chance please?
There are only 82 tiles on the board, and the main farm has not been scored. Yellow appears to be leading on farmers and it is worth 33 points which would give Yellow the lead. Plus he has a meeple in hand so it looks to me like this game is far from over. If anything, I think I'd rather be Yellow than Green, so I'm surprised anyone would want to forfeit it...
As mentioned, the game is all messed up. It's supposed to be Green (jma03) owning that field with 1 big follower and 3-4 regular and me with 1 big follower and 2-3 regular.
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Yellow: sorry for continue feature, it is not working properly - you can save and send me a game, i can fix it if you write me what is exactly wrong.
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Although it may be a lost game for you Yellow, the battle for 2nd/ 3rd/ 4th (and also lower-ranked positions) in our group is very much "on" at the moment and score differential is critically important in terms of who finishes where. For this reason, and since farin has offered to fix the broken game, I'd be really grateful if you and jma could finish your game for the sake of everyone else in the group and there being no questions over what the end result *might* have been if x, y or z had happened in this abandoned game.
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I would like to continue it. (7 tiles. )
these points are at the moment but there was more at stake.
would have any chance please?
There are only 82 tiles on the board, and the main farm has not been scored. Yellow appears to be leading on farmers and it is worth 33 points which would give Yellow the lead. Plus he has a meeple in hand so it looks to me like this game is far from over. If anything, I think I'd rather be Yellow than Green, so I'm surprised anyone would want to forfeit it...
was seven tiles and touched play yellow ( did not have meeple in his book ) .
yellow needs 3 tiles to recover 1 meeple (monastery )
so farms are 100% mine .
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I am the yellow meeple .
and paul green meeple .
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Are the scores and available meeples correct for Yellow and Green on the right, other than that the names are the wrong way round?
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Now I need yellow to beat Dan - and Dan to beat farin by about 200 points, the I will be top. Not going to happen I feel. Come on yellow! Come on Dan!
200?! 191 would do it... :-\
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Are the scores and available meeples correct for Yellow and Green on the right, other than that the names are the wrong way round?
yes, they are.
jacobo : 89 ( 122) 1meeple
yellow: 58 ( 65 ) 0 meeple
the tile in the photo is for yellow play.
the only error is that the colors were changed.
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Very impressed by Farin's tour de force in our group. Bravo.
Same here. Impressed and terrified! :o
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Ok. I may be available for play later this evening, after 6 pm.
If still want to finish that game, jma03. But for the record, one tile during my turn got placed without my concent which was key for me to stand a chance of winning. Either way, the statistics will be wrong, hence I wanted to forfeit it.
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Ok. I may be available for play later this evening, after 6 pm.
If still want to finish that game, jma03. But for the record, one tile during my turn got placed without my concent which was key for me to stand a chance of winning. Either way, the statistics will be wrong, hence I wanted to forfeit it.
Great stuff! :) :(y)
@Farin,
I thought I'd try to debug the savegame file for you since I remembered that it's basically just a zipped XML file.
I have a could of questions about this though:
<players turn="1">
<player local="true" name="jacobo" points="89" slot="3">
...
<player name="Paul" points="58" slot="2">
- How do I know which players turn it will be next based on the players turn="1"? I believe it should be Paul's turn so am assuming that jacobo is player 0 and Paul is player 1?
- Should I remove the local="true" if I was going to load the game and host it for both players?
- Does the slot="3" part determine the colour? I can't find what else might do this if not. My guess is that from top to bottom (also from memory as I'm at work and can't load JCZ here) Red = 0, Blue = 1, Green = 2, Yellow = 3, Purple = 4, Black = 5
Otherwise though, the contents of the file seem to make sense in that each player has the correct score...
Please correct me if I have made any mistakes anywhere!
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local="true" is not important - you can clear it or leave - it only cause you have assigned all local players automatically when you open configuration (but you can manually leave/assing slots anyway)
yes slot determine color, exactly as you said
turn player is just index to list of players (starts from 0, it means it's different number that slot)
attaching unpacked file with colors switched
i hope understand it correctly - anyway you can edit it now own way (eg change active player)
btw it's not needed to pack it again, game can read unpacked xml as well
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farin are a crack¡¡¡¡¡¡
:meeple:
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Eres un Crack - in spanish is a compliment of the highest order!
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and my final game
farin 143 - 84 danisthirty
Drawing more city tiles and i trying to close them and not leave empty part in game (in fact dan leave me also some his parts and doubled roads as well). Danisthirty tried to catch or at least complicate it, but wasn't much successful. Still think i was badly play cathedrall city when was smalled and can manage it to close (there was many CCFF in pack and last CC corner was missing - instead leaving or freezing last tile to CCFF i place CCCF. Than dani can easilly extend it and connect to his meeple)
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My final game: Yellow vs danisthirty.
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Here comes the x-score list - IC-League-Group B 13 03 2015:
All the players of Group B have played all their 6 games.
There have been played 21 games total.
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I don't really know what happened in my game with farin. In light of my opponent's reputation, I played relatively cautiously and didn't always claim whatever was available to me as I feared getting my meeples trapped. farin seemed to draw a lot more useful tiles than I did, but he certainly put them to good use too. At one point I tried to use my double-meeple to steal a city from farin as this seemed safe at the time, but then failed to draw a ccxx tile until farin had placed a cathedral underneath which effectively trapped him for good so I had to rely on my farm. With 4 or 5 tiles to go though, farin got his double-follower onto my farm and I lost that too. All credit to farin for playing an outstanding game, for me it was just one long string of failures. I was left wondering what I'd done wrong as I didn't really feel like the final scores reflected how close the game had felt in places.
I think Yellow and I both just wanted to get our game over and done with. He spent most of the game with an 18-point lead but I had an 18-point farm so we were roughly equal apart from a couple of cloisters Yellow had that roughly balanced out a small but uncompletable city that I had. With no meeples left to claim anything with, we went through a phase of about 5 or 6 turns each where neither of us could do anything, until eventually we both got a meeple back and I claimed a rubbish city instead of the little farm that Yellow took. I had lost the game at this point, and I knew it, but the final tile enabled me to close a cathedral city and the 21 points it was worth gave me just enough of a boost to take the game.
Well done to farin for winning the group. It has certainly been a tough group to play in and I would have liked to have finished higher but some you win, some you lose. I've had a tough time trying to understand why I lost so many games and by such wide margins but... well... I'm sure I'll get over it!
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ELO Ratings:
danisthirty 1264 (-21)
Jéré 1249 (-26)
Farin 1214 (+70)
Rosco 1212 (+30)
jma03 1199 (-1)
Hounk 1160 (-32 )
Yellow 1027 (-20)