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Title: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: ahri on January 19, 2018, 06:14:35 AM
Hello.
I bought Carcassonne before I even knew what it was and fell in love with it. When I tried to buy expansions, I found out I got Z-Man's Carcassonne 2.0 (River 2 + Abbot) but with OLD (pretty) design. I somehow found used Inns & Cathedrals, but no luck with Traders & Builders.
Is anyone selling this expansion or is being able to point me out where I could buy it? I am from Croatia, so shipping can be pain in the ass for some options.
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: jungleboy on January 19, 2018, 06:48:02 AM
Hello.
I bought Carcassonne before I even knew what it was and fell in love with it. When I tried to buy expansions, I found out I got Z-Man's Carcassonne 2.0 (River 2 + Abbot) but with OLD (pretty) design. I somehow found used Inns & Cathedrals, but no luck with Traders & Builders.
Is anyone selling this expansion or is being able to point me out where I could buy it? I am from Croatia, so shipping can be pain in the ass for some options.

I'm not sure what you mean exactly. Carcassonne 2.0 (River + Abbot) is the new design, where tiles look like this:

(http://theglassmeeple.com/wp-content/uploads/CarcassonneNewEdition-meeplePlacement.jpg)

The old tiles look like this, but there's no abbot in them (except for a different abbot, of course...):

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic291940_md.jpg)

So which version do you have?
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: ahri on January 19, 2018, 07:05:49 AM
Second one. In a box with River 2.0 and Abbot. Believe it or not :).
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Sinscerly on January 19, 2018, 07:38:28 AM
Second one. In a box with River 2.0 and Abbot. Believe it or not :).
Can you make a photo of it or a link?
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Willem on January 19, 2018, 07:57:57 AM
I've got an extra copy of Traders&Builders if you want.
It is the old art, so the 2nd style from the photo
Title: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: ahri on January 19, 2018, 08:21:50 AM
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/oru08krtoxxv9ht/AADjWDN3YMRRZqgdB7Zrgl5ra?dl=0

This is what I have. And there is an even newer (or, well, different - darker and flatter) design that does not fit mine. I do not have old-old one.
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Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Jéré on January 19, 2018, 09:03:47 AM
Hi ahri,

If you want, I can send you a link... only to you for now, in case someone is faster than you and grabs the last copy or something...  >:D

There you can get in the old art-style:

Major expansions: Traders & Builders, Tower and Bridges, Castles and Bazaars for 12,50 EUR each
Small expansions: Minis #1 and #2, Dutch/Belgian Monasteries, Phantom for 3,70 EUR each

You have to send them an email for shipping cost to Croatia.

Hope this helps,
Jéré
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: ahri on January 19, 2018, 09:15:21 AM
Please do :)
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: jungleboy on January 19, 2018, 09:19:53 AM
There you can get in the old art-style:

Per his picture above, he doesn't actually have the old art.
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Chartreusito on January 19, 2018, 09:21:09 AM
Hi Jéré, i'm interested about the tower too, one private sale i got in France fell trough, and i don't really care which language i got as long a i get the good (old) artwork ;)
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: ahri on January 19, 2018, 09:47:25 AM
Yeah, I don't have the old-old design. But there is a design I am also not compatibile with:
(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic2708413_md.png)
I thought that was the newest.
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Sinscerly on January 19, 2018, 10:03:29 AM
Yeah, I don't have the old-old design. But there is a design I am also not compatibile with:
(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic2708413_md.png)
I thought that was the newest.
Well you're right there are two differences between them. I don't think they have made it like the one you have.
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: ahri on January 19, 2018, 10:20:57 AM
So what kind of design do I have, so I know what to search for?
There, I updated the dropbox link with some daylight photos.
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Just a Bill on January 19, 2018, 10:22:59 AM
So you're saying this:
Is that correct?
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Sinscerly on January 19, 2018, 11:17:35 AM
Yes...
His version is called 2.1 and the darker is known as 2.0
Edit. Wolnic is right
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: wolnic on January 19, 2018, 11:30:28 AM
I thought that the first release of CarcII had the darker cities (ie Carc 2.0) which was only the Base Game, I&C and B&T (it's what I have), and that the lighter (and later one) is Carc 2.1 which saw them reprinted, plus all the subsequent expansions.
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Just a Bill on January 19, 2018, 12:06:50 PM
Hmm, so I got the light and dark backwards? Thanks for the clarification. But I still can't reconcile this with what ahri is saying, because he says he wants the older Carc II rather than the newer Carc II, but his image shows the lighter cities, which is apparently the newest/latest version.

I guess I should have known better than to stick my nose in this new-art business. Best to stay safely hidden away, deep inside my classic-artwork cave. ;)
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Sinscerly on January 19, 2018, 12:09:43 PM
I guess I should have known better than to stick my nose in this new-art business. Best to stay safely hidden away, deep inside my classic-artwork cave. ;)
Can I claim your spelonk as my new classic-artwork cave?
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: ahri on January 19, 2018, 04:26:08 PM
I thought that the first release of CarcII had the darker cities (ie Carc 2.0) which was only the Base Game, I&C and B&T (it's what I have), and that the lighter (and later one) is Carc 2.1 which saw them reprinted, plus all the subsequent expansions.

Looks about right. How do I get the version I need?
Besides selling and buying big box, which, although silly, I’d do if the newest design wasn’t ugliest for me.
Also, I need I&C too since the one I thought I’d get was 1.0 :(


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Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Decar on January 20, 2018, 03:28:05 AM
Ditch the old style - it's out of print.
Ditch the new style with darker cities - that's also no longer being produced.

Future expansions will not match, if that's a concern.
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Just a Bill on January 20, 2018, 07:08:34 AM
Can I claim your spelonk as my new classic-artwork cave?

I don't know ... can you? ;)

(https://s20.postimg.cc/i4jtibuq5/Hitman_In_Cave400.png)
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: jungleboy on January 20, 2018, 07:58:57 AM
Ditch the new style with darker cities - that's also no longer being produced.

And was also only ever produced for the base game, I&C and T&B to begin with. P&D was released with the lighter brown cities (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2655.msg39243#msg39243).
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Sinscerly on January 20, 2018, 01:09:45 PM
Can I claim your spelonk as my new classic-artwork cave?

I don't know ... can you? ;)

(https://s20.postimg.cc/i4jtibuq5/Hitman_In_Cave400.png)
Wow Just a Bill, can I print that tile?  :)) You made my day.
I think this will be my new profile picture  ;D
Merit from me  :(y)
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: Willem on January 21, 2018, 01:02:15 PM
Just made a quick picture of the 2 together, as the Spiel tiles all seem to have the darker brown in the cities. The lighter brown around is the currently used colour.
Title: Re: WTB Traders & Builders - old design
Post by: jungleboy on January 21, 2018, 02:04:26 PM
The first six Spiel tiles were all likely printed at the same time (i.e. at the beginning of the new art period in 2014), so that makes sense.


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