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Clarification of rules (tunnels & the plague) - with Author - 14 08 2021

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Meepledrone:
In recent days we got the following clarifications by email from Christwart Conrad, the creator of Carcassonne expansions such as Cathars / Siege / Besiegers, The Tunnel or The Plague.

Following Kettlefish's tradition...

Question in BLUE

Answer in GREEN

Still open in RED

My own comments in  MAROON


Linkback: https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=5432.0

Meepledrone:
The Tunnel

[Q1] We would like to verify if the road ending at the group of houses splits the field at the top or not. In other words, does this tile have 3 or 4 fields?

[A1] This tile has 3 fields. See also:

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1001627/tunnels-and-fields

The link to BGG indicated includes a thread discussing the number of fields featured on each tile of the expansion. The author confirmed that in this case the RRRR tile has only 3 fields.

A clarification section covering these tiles has been added to WICA:

https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Tunnel_(1st_edition)#Additional_Clarifications

Meepledrone:
The Plague (part 1)

[Q2.1] Is any meeple in play allowed to take flight from the plague or only those on features affected by the plague?

[A2.1] Any.


--- Quote ---At any point during his turn a player may move one of their meeples any number of tiles orthogonally within the same feature, provided they do not pass pass through or land on a tile with an active Outbreak or a Flea.

--- End quote ---

See: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/696667/rules-bsw-site-copied-plain-text

So according to the rules, quoted above, there is no restriction about what meeples can take flight from the plague (for example, only those on features already affected by the plague). Therefore, when an outbreak is active, any meeple in the playing area can take flight from the plague. 

The link to BGG provided by the author includes a great concise summary of the The Plague rules.



[Q2.2] We assume a meeple may take flight from the plague at any time during your turn, since the rules do not specify a particular moment. If this action is performed before knowing the tile you drew, you could run into a rules conflict, since you could move a flea token before knowing you will place a plague source on the same turn. Should this be allowed anyway?

[A2.2] No, it shouldn't. In order to avoid rules conflicts, spreading the plague [at any time] is not allowed before you know you didn't draw a plague source tile [and the tile drawn has a valid placement]. The rule allowing you to spread the plague at any time during your turn wouldn't make sense [if it could generate conflicts], so I'd skip this possibility explicitly.

The author then confirms that a player can spread the plague at any time during their turn but once the tile is placed, so there is no room for conflict if the tile drawn and placed is a plague source.


EDIT: Added some comments and updated wording to clarify the context for answer A2.2.

NOTE: More questions about The Plague answered answered in the following post below:
https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=5432.msg79066#msg79066


NOTE 2: Summary diagrams for the action in The Plague available here:
https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=5432.msg87346#msg87346

corinthiens13:
Ooh, Q1 for the plague makes great opportunities with the wagon  :yellow-meeple:


--- Quote ---The rule allowing you to spread the plague at any time during your turn wouldn't make sense, so I'd skip this possibility explicitly.
--- End quote ---

So both moving a meeple and spreading the plague are now "Not anytime during our turn"?

When do we perform those actions then? Directly after drawing a tile? Or anytime but not before drawing a tile?  ???

Meepledrone:
The "any time during your turn" is still valid. The only additional restriction is "starting when"... So you cannot perform two incompatible actions on the same turn: spreading the plague and placing a source tile.

You can only spread the plague once you know the tile you have drawn and there is a valid placement for it. So there is no turning back for the tile and therefore no possible conflict.

So, you can move a flea at any time during your turn after you have placed your tile.

In other words, do it any time during your turn after placing your tile in Step 1C in 1. Placing a tile.

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