A monastery scores 1 point per occupied space no matter the tiles occupying them... Then you add the bonuses according to the actual tiles (vineyards, little buildings...).A watchtower counts adjacent tiles with particular features (but we agreed to consider two halflings in a space as 1 tile). It would be similar to counting Little Buildings (or vineyards). Would you count each Little Building twice when scoring these monasteries because they are placed on double-sized tiles? (Note: We try to make square tiles to match the grid but double-sized tiles won't allow us to do that in some cases.)
Quote from: corinthiens13 on February 07, 2021, 10:15:07 AMYellow watchtower is worth 5 points, considering every meeple on the german castle tile10 points.WikiCarpedia should describe all these cases on a dedicated page, and marking these examples with IconPadlock (see https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Icons and https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Template:IconPadlock).
Yellow watchtower is worth 5 points, considering every meeple on the german castle tile
My understanding is that Option A:* The meeple on the German castle could be counted twice by a watchtower scoring for meeples if both halves are adjacent to it* The road segment on a Leipzig tile could be counted twice by a watchtower scoring for roads if both halves are adjacent to it* A little building should be placed on one of the halves of a double-sized tile - you cannot consider it is on both halves.The issue I have is this duality:* We want to split the double-sized tile into two but this cannot happen. If so, the meeple would not be on either half so the dragon would not be able to eat it. You would end up with an Exp. 8 castle but this is not the case.* Meeples placed clearly on one half would benefit or affect bonus scorings on that end but some other scorings would affect the whole tile...I think this path also leads to conflicting situations... You would need a detailed list of dos and don'ts...With option B, you have the following principles:1) You address square spaces and then map to full tiles occupying/overlapping a given space when needed (even of they overflow the square space).2) A double-sized tile is considered only once when mapped from different square spaces.3) Two triangular tiles are considered one square tile for scoring purposes.
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I think we should always consider the spaces around the feature.• For features like the monastery group, watchtower, big top we count the 8 spaces around the feature tile.• For the German castle tile, we count the ten spaces around the German castle tile.• For castles, we count the six spaces of the castle’s fief.• For meeples for which the surrounding space is important, like the wagon or ringmaster, we consider the number of spaces based on the tile it is placed on, hence 8, 10 or the castle’s fief.• The Leipzig tiles are an exception per definition. Although visually it looks like the road is on two spaces, it’s not. The road on the double Leipzig tiles is only on one space per definition.Possibility 1: If a double tile is only for one half part of the surrounding spaces, the complete tile counts for that specific space it is extending: So, there are still eight (or 10 or 4) surrounding spaces, but some of them are extended. These extended spaces are only considered once for scoring.Possibility 2: If a double tile is completely part of the surrounding spaces, it is overlapping two spaces and both of them are considered for scoring:So, there are still eight (or 10 or 4) surrounding spaces. Both halves of the double tile are considered for scoring as they are both occupying a space.That means for the examples from corinthiens 13:1. The roads above are 4+3 (left) and 6+3 (right) points (6 spaces according to the recent rule clarifications)2. Pink wagon may move anywhere on the German castle tile (according to Possibility 1)3. Same would happen with the castle with pink ringmaster, completition of anything on the castle tile triggers the castle's scoring (according to possibility 1)4. Watchtower under the pink ringmaster, if scored, would get points for the city on the German castle tile. (according to possibility 1)5. Once completed, blue wagon may move on the 10 surrounding spaces as he is on the German castle. The violet wagon may only move to 8 spaces surrounding the space he's on, but including the complete German castle tile that’s part of the 8 surrounding spaces. (according to possibility 1)6. Violet ringmaster is considering the 10 spaces around the German Castle tile, so including this circus tile (according to possibility 1)7. Yellow watchtower is worth 10 points, considering all meeples on the 8 surrounding spaces and including the complete German castle tile because the tile is spartly overlapping one of the 8 surrounding spaces (according to possibility 1)8. Blue watchtower is worth 2 points for the roads on the German castle tiles (according to possibility 2), and one for each road on Leipzig's tiles (per definition), and one for the watchtower tile, 5 in total9. Watchtower with pink meeple is 4 points, considering Leipzig once (according to possibility 1)10. Black's watchtower is worth 5 points (according to possibility 2)
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