Big box 2016 rule clearification - magewitch

[Mikki1211]

We got the big box from 2016 and have been reading the rules and the conplete annoteded rules and read this forum, but we havent found a answer that is 100%.

The case is:
Idraw a tile with»ccrr»and the magewitch symbol, i place the tile according to the rules.
I place the tile and complete a city and earn 4 points.
But can i place the mage in my city so that i score 6points(1+1tile)?

Or is the city «complete» so that i need to place the mage or witch somewhere else?

Linkback: https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=3756.0

[Halfling]

Hi Mikki1211,

The CAR states that the Mage or Witch must be placed onto a segment of unfinished City or a section of unfinished Road. So you can't place either into the completed city in this example.

regards Halfling

[Mikki1211]

Thank you ?

[InTheDark]

Hi Mikki1211,

The CAR states that the Mage or Witch must be placed onto a segment of unfinished City or a section of unfinished Road. So you can't place either into the completed city in this example.

regards Halfling

In my opinion this ruling would be correct .
I just received the new Big Box (the one in the new art) for Christmas and on the back page of the rule booklet it has the turn sequence which is as follows:

1. Place A Tile
    Place 2 Gold Ingots
    Place The Mage Or Witch
    Place Robbers On The Score Board

2. Place A Meeple
    Place A Meeple Or Abbot Or Large Meeple
    Or Place A Meeple or Large Meeple On The Flying Machine*
    Or Place The Builder Or The Pig
    Or Remove And Score The Abbot
    (Obviously these aren't all the types meeples you could place but this is just for the types included in the box.)

3. Score A Feature
    Move Your Scoring Meeple Or Messenger Along The Scoreboard

4. After Scoring
    Distribute Gold Ingots
    Draw Messages
    Rob Other Players
    Perform Crop Circle Action

In The Cities section under 3. Scoring A City it says: "A city is completed when it is completely surround by walls and there are no gaps inside the city." Because you place the tile before adding the Mage or Witch the city would already be completed before you could add the Mage or Witch. Obviously this would also apply to roads a well.

I hope this helped you with your question !

*Just a side note I assume that because the Abbot isn't listed as an option to use for the fliers it means I can't put the abbot on a flier? Also does this mean I can't use meeples from other expansions?

[SamoolSamosa]

I feel like this link : https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/220454/every-carcassonne-expansion-explained provides is helpful when knowing how elements of different expansions combine.