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« on: April 13, 2020, 11:24:48 PM »
The Easter Bunny would like to apply the new rules for C2 Halfling just published by HiG.
New C2 Halfling rules? You know how much I like these scoring quizzes, but "No thanks!" 
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« on: April 05, 2020, 02:15:00 AM »
I will continue playing with the Halflings just as it was written in WICA until one week ago.
Why would we even bother to discuss these ridiculous rules of a publisher that is not even willing to supply rules for his own published expansion interactions?
On this forum, there are a lot of people who seem to care much more about the game than the publisher himself. There is so much work already prepared on this forum, but it's clear that HiG does not even bother to read it through...
So, Meepledrone, just ignore these "new" rules. If the publisher does not care, why should we?
They will get their money anyway...
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« on: April 01, 2020, 10:32:43 PM »
Yer, there are exactly written:
The tile depicting the crop circle is played differently from the normal crop circle tiles.
But nice feature is get 3 sheeps which are protected agains wulf and also dragon.
Where have you read this?
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« on: January 04, 2020, 02:07:54 PM »
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« on: December 30, 2019, 07:44:00 AM »
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« on: December 30, 2019, 12:56:48 AM »
Question #23: Danisthirty wanted to confer with the Yellow archbishop before Christmas, so here we are. By placing this last tile, the German cathedral will be completed. He wants to test you so please tell him the scoring for Yellow as soon as possible. Will you?
Answer #23: Yellow scores 26 points
The road network connected to the German cathedral contains a roundabout and several tunnels that connect the three road segments on the German cathedral. Analyzing the road network, we have to take into account the following elements:
- 7 road tiles
- 3 tunnel tiles that are considered only once for the road network
- 3 road segments on the German Cathedral counted independently
- 1 inn, so each tile and road segment on the German cathedral gets 2 points
So Yellow will score 26 points (10 tiles x 2 points + 3 road segments x 2 points)
I don't think that this is correct.
Roads leading to a German Cathedral and its road segments are worth three points each when there is an inn next to the road.
So total score should be 39 points.
No. Only 2 points for tile (see WICA).
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You're right. I was scoring the road instead of the cathedral. Stupid me! 
No worries. I made some stupids mistakes for read WICA wrong or literally phantom parts... emoji code23]
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I made three really stupid mistakes. It's not that I didn't know the correct rules, I was just not paying enough attention....
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« on: December 30, 2019, 12:38:08 AM »
Question #23: Danisthirty wanted to confer with the Yellow archbishop before Christmas, so here we are. By placing this last tile, the German cathedral will be completed. He wants to test you so please tell him the scoring for Yellow as soon as possible. Will you?
Answer #23: Yellow scores 26 points
The road network connected to the German cathedral contains a roundabout and several tunnels that connect the three road segments on the German cathedral. Analyzing the road network, we have to take into account the following elements:
- 7 road tiles
- 3 tunnel tiles that are considered only once for the road network
- 3 road segments on the German Cathedral counted independently
- 1 inn, so each tile and road segment on the German cathedral gets 2 points
So Yellow will score 26 points (10 tiles x 2 points + 3 road segments x 2 points)
I don't think that this is correct.
Roads leading to a German Cathedral and its road segments are worth three points each when there is an inn next to the road.
So total score should be 39 points.
No. Only 2 points for tile (see WICA).
Enviado desde mi XT1700 mediante Tapatalk
You're right. I was scoring the road instead of the cathedral. Stupid me!
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« on: December 30, 2019, 12:06:46 AM »
Really happy that I did well. I never even considered winning this quiz with so many experts on this forum. So, yes, I am a little proud!  A big thank you to Meepledrone and his Council for all the work that's been put in!
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« on: December 30, 2019, 12:01:57 AM »
Question #23: Danisthirty wanted to confer with the Yellow archbishop before Christmas, so here we are. By placing this last tile, the German cathedral will be completed. He wants to test you so please tell him the scoring for Yellow as soon as possible. Will you?
Answer #23: Yellow scores 26 points
The road network connected to the German cathedral contains a roundabout and several tunnels that connect the three road segments on the German cathedral. Analyzing the road network, we have to take into account the following elements:
- 7 road tiles
- 3 tunnel tiles that are considered only once for the road network
- 3 road segments on the German Cathedral counted independently
- 1 inn, so each tile and road segment on the German cathedral gets 2 points
So Yellow will score 26 points (10 tiles x 2 points + 3 road segments x 2 points)
I don't think that this is correct. Roads leading to a German Cathedral and its road segments are worth three points each when there is an inn next to the road. So total score should be 39 points.
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« on: September 10, 2019, 02:08:49 AM »
My trial: During the game:German Cathedral (C3)(22 tiles + 4 road segments) x2 (Inn) +3 Little Buildings B3,B/C4,F2 TOTAL: 55 points for  Labyrinth + Roads1. Watchtower D4: 8 tiles x1 = 8 points for  2. Road including labyrinths: [(21 tiles + 1 road segment C1 + 3 road segments C3) x3 (Inn + German Cathedrals)] / 2 (Witch)= 38 +4 Bathhouse B2 +3 Little Buildings B3,B/C4,F2 +6 German Castles B/C4, E2/3 +12 Labyrinth meeple bonus +23 Wainwright Quarter (23 tiles) +3 Fairy TOTAL: 89 points for  (Majority due to presence on hill) 3. Ringmaster bonus: 2 circus tiles x2: 4 points for After the gameBig Top4 points for (2 other meeples removed after scoring of the road) 4 points for (blue ringmaster removed after scoring of the road) 4 points for Road A2-C34 tiles x0 (Inn) =0 points +4 (Mage) TOTAL: 4 points for German Cathedral C1(23 tiles + 3 road segments C1 + 3 road segments C3) x0 (Inns) = 0 points +3 Little Buildings B3,B/C4,F2 TOTAL: 3 points for Acrobats D55 points for 5 points for German Castle E2/32 points + 9 tiles = 11 points +1 Little Building F2 TOTAL: 12 points for Road F1-G34 points for (Majority due to presence on a hill)
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« on: August 23, 2019, 12:50:31 AM »
Hi yezhenhan,
Playing a game should bring a lot of fun. But for many players, including me, playing according to the correct rules brings a lot of fun.
In fact, I can get really frustrated when I am learning or playing a new game for which the rules are unclearly written.
Therefore I think it is important that on this forum we try to find out how the original rules were intended so that we can play the game correctly.
The scoring of the Mage is very clear, one point per tile. Counting twice four or five tiles should not be such a big problem.
Furthermore, when the Mage is placed in a city with pennants, you also have to count twice or count the pennants separately.
Rules of the Waintwrights quarter are clear now too (thanks to the analysis of benbever).
German Cathedral exception only applies to the core scoring of the road, without or with an inn.
Any new player will understand that very easily.
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« on: August 22, 2019, 03:36:40 PM »
Indeed 
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« on: August 22, 2019, 03:12:08 PM »
Why not the 15 road segment? It's simplyphite the game.
IMHO the case above should consider 9 tiles + 2 road segments for the German Cathedral when calculating the core feature scoring. Any other possible tile-based bonuses on top, the Mage and the Markets of Leipzig, would consider 10 tiles though.
I totally agree. Otherwise, it will be a mess 
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« on: August 22, 2019, 12:12:50 PM »
Hi Vital Pluymers
You said Road segments counting for any core scoring when a German Cathedral tile is part of the road, but tile counting for bonus scoring features as the Mage, the Markets of Leipzig, and the Watchtowers.
I think watchtower is not .(showing at least one road)
Hi yezhenhan, why do you think that? The Watchtowers are scoring one point per tile showing at least one road, so tile counting imho...
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« on: August 22, 2019, 12:05:06 PM »
Hi all,
I was just cross-checking the wording using C1 I&C as a well established reference (the scoring of roads with Inns) and I found this:
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German rules (HiG)
Liegen eine oder mehrere Wirtshaus karten in einer fertigen Straße, so erhält der Wege lagerer 2 Punkte pro Straßenabschnitt (Anzahl der Karten).
English rules (RGG)
If one or more of the segments of a completed road contain an Inn on the Lake, the thief earns 2 points per road segment (number of tiles) for the player.
English rules (ZMG)
If there is at least one inn on a completed road, a thief that is present on that road will score 2 points (instead of 1) per road section (number of tiles).
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Therefore, for I&C road segments = road tiles (they are equivalent) but for German Cathedrals road segments >= road tiles (there are more road segments than road tiles) when a road starts and ends at a German Cathedral tile.
What do you make of all of this?
I'm starting to think that HiG road tile and road segment are equivalent all the time but the used the same term to refer to the road stretches on a German Cathedral. Otherwise a tile like this one from I&C would contain two road segments and they would have to be counted twice in case both road segments were connected to a road loop connected to a German Cathedral:
At the time when the base game and the first expansion were released, there was no need to distinguish between roads, road tiles and road segments. There was only one rule at the time, one point per tile, two points with an inn. There was no road segment counting yet. Only when the German Cathedrals were released, road segment differentiation was introduced for the German Cathedral tile only. Despite your well appreciated effort to look up the exact phrasing, for me it is clear that the wording used before the release of the German Cathedrales is irrelevant. I think we should stick to the updated scoring rules which are now in WICA  That Tunnel example is really something though. The Tunnel is one of the very few expansions I don't own yet... In WICA, footnote 9 states: It would seem logical that if the “entrance” and “exit” of a tunnel are on the same tile, they should only count as a single point for scoring, just as two segments of a city on a single tile only count as 1 tile for scoring purposes.Is that not part of the official rules?
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