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General / Re: Carcassonne by Forums 2023
« on: January 19, 2023, 09:44:53 AM »
you'll either have to build out the game somewhere where it won't be disturbed for a number of weeks/ months
Remember there must be enough space for another table, in every direction!  >:D ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D Have a good time people, seems crazy enough to be very fun

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Community Rules (Meepledrone & Friends) / Re: Base Game - Table edges
« on: January 19, 2023, 09:40:25 AM »
So, as a recap.

I honestly don't understand a rule (you may feel it's a waste of time to keep discussing with me, but the result is that in the end I'm still at total loss about the whole "extendable limits" thing, still an oxymoron to me) and trying to understand it is labeled as "having no common sense"... and then the conversation is shut down with a Lego joke.

Fantastic.

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Community Rules (Meepledrone & Friends) / Re: Base Game - Table edges
« on: January 17, 2023, 01:19:04 AM »
You can continue to misunderstand this, deliberately or otherwise, but that's your decision and isn't a problem with the rules or the wiki.
Well it's not a decision if it's not deliberate, isn't it. ;) As incredible as it is, I'm still lost. One rule determines what's a limit is, telling me the edge of the table I'm playing on is the "limit". Limit for what? I read that as "the boundaries of the game space are the table edges". But then another rules says I can extend this limit/boundaries by just adding more tables if I want. So what's exactly the "limit" defined in the first rule? For me, a "limit" is not extendable since... you know, it's a limit:
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limit (ˈlɪmɪt/)
1. a point or level beyond which something does not or may not extend or pass.
2. a restriction on the size or amount of something permissible or possible.

Finally,
There's nothing to fix.
Wrong word. "Clarified" is maybe the word I wanted to use. Resolved? Settled down? "I just think telling people the game must be played "as intended", and then having a rule that is not even made certain by the creator of the game is a little silly".

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General / Re: On etsy
« on: January 16, 2023, 07:58:09 AM »
What were they selling out of curiosity?
Probably a printable fan-made "expansion" that uses the game's official artwork.

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Community Rules (Meepledrone & Friends) / Re: Base Game - Table edges
« on: January 16, 2023, 07:56:35 AM »
The whole “addition of a second table” paragraph doesn’t nullify the earlier paragraph about the table being the limit. If you add a second table of equal height, the limit is extended to the second table, but the edges of the table remain a limit.
;D I really does not understand this: If you can extend the game area whatever you want, then there is never a limit  ;D It's like saying: you can only buy 5 essen tiles but hey, if you ask you can buy 10 ;D

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Community Rules (Meepledrone & Friends) / Re: Base Game - Table edges
« on: January 15, 2023, 03:07:44 AM »
I think we can only agree to disagree. Only thing I'm really not comfortable with is that "game played as intended" since from the very first day I started playing the "Rule 0" of Carcassonne was: "Play as you like"... so that's true, until someone tells me I *have* to play in a certain way instead, otherwise I'm playing wrong?

More on this.

On my paper instruction it is written that the table is the limit.
On the wiki the official instructions are quite inconsistent. First is said that
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The edge of the table is the limit for the game if, as stated in the rules, a table is used.

but then it is added that
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Addition of a second table is possible if one of an appropriate height is added to the first table

So the second sentence seems to nullify the first one, but if so, what is the point of the first one?

So, everyone play as they like so different people use different rules. Mine are more strict, and I think that's better because they add a solid layer of strategy, that's all.

I just think telling people the game must be played "as intended", and then having a rule that is not even fixed by the creator of the game is a little silly.



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Community Rules (Meepledrone & Friends) / Re: Base Game - Table edges
« on: January 08, 2023, 05:23:27 PM »
if that tile is 1mm out then maybe a player is disadvantaged simply because the tile doesn't fit.

Exactly. And since this is valid for all players from the start of the game, it's a fair rule. Adding a table because player X needs more space when her opponents managed to stay in the play area is fair only to player X

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Community Rules (Meepledrone & Friends) / Re: Base Game - Table edges
« on: January 08, 2023, 03:10:33 AM »
I'm a little bit extremist on this, as long as you can be an extremist talking about a game  ^-^ Not only I consider any open feature at the edge of the table open by default, but I also refuse to extend the game surface by adding more tables or similar and I think this should be the same for official toournaments.

This is not just blind strictness.

Carcassonne is a game of luck and strategy, and strategy calls into account ALL resources. Space is a resource. The start tile is on the table, and every player is well aware from the start what the size of the table is, so this "no more space" rule may sound harsh but it's fair and most importantly prevents unpleasant discussions (at a point in a game where adding more space blatantly helps one player against all the others).

I'll try to make a similarity here: once you start a game with 7 base meeples, you play the whole game with 7 base meeples, and you don't add one more just because you've depleted your stash: maybe you were unlucky, maybe your opponents were better than you, maybe you're a disaster at managing resources, it doesn't matter: you don't have base meeples to play anymore and you have to deal with it. Why should it be different for the table space?

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You are missing the point.
I understand, I was lost in translation. Thanks for the clarification! Just one thought: wouldn't
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You can place your Abbot only in the cathedral in Carcassonne.
be better than
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You can only place your Abbot in the cathedral in Carcassonne.
then?

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Sorry if this has been discussed before. From the wiki:
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You can only place your Abbot in the cathedral in Carcassonne.

This sentence is not present in the paper rules I have and it seems contradicted by the image the game itself presents to show a move from the City Cathedral to a monastery or shrine, that is this one, showing a meeple and not an abbott being deployed to a monastery:


Can I have more info on this?

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Last iteration of the Winter Edition is very good and I think I'll buy it online (if I'll manage to understand how to recognize it so I don't buy again the version I already own) but that first edition... WOW

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Official Rules / Why can't you capture pigs and builders with a tower?
« on: January 06, 2023, 07:04:48 AM »
I fail to understand the logic behind what you can and cannot capture by placing a tower floor. For example
  • Abbots, Mayors, Wagons... yes
  • Pigs, Builders: No
Why? Is it because they're not "meeples"?

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Official Rules / Two doubts about The Toolkeepers' basic rules
« on: January 02, 2023, 01:48:50 AM »
This is probably very naive of me but I'd like to be sure.



1. Let's say I close a road by using a tile with a crossroad in it. Am I allowed to immediately place a toolhouse on the newly placed tile, triggering the "Tool raising" score? My understanding is that I am allowed but could you please confirm it to me? In the example Red :red-meeple: places B, then plays a toolhouse on it and gets 5 points. Is it correct?

2. During the final scoring "you get points for all incomplete roads connected to your tollhouse". You don't have to have meeples on the incomplete road, right? They just have to start/end on your toolhouse, is this correct?


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General / Re: Digital point board
« on: January 01, 2023, 05:35:14 AM »
You're a boss!!! Just one last thing, this is not a request but just something I do. On Chrome inspector before starting to play I make the meeples smaller by editing some values of the following  selector
Code: [Select]
@media screen and (orientation: landscape)
.meeple {
The declarations I change are height, width and background-size, from 6.5vw to 5vw.
This way the meeples are smaller and there's little chaos when 2 or more of them share the same space, I use your awesome tool on a PC screen so smaller meeples are a little bit better  O:-)
Thank you again and happy new year!

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General / Re: Digital point board
« on: December 31, 2022, 07:12:18 AM »


#A given number of players and colors separated by commas (for example  :pink-meeple: :yellow-meeple: :red-meeple:)
https://carliunterik.github.io/carcboard/?p=pink,yellow,red


THis is WONDERFUL thanks!!!!  :(y) :(y) :(y) :(y) :(y) :(y)
But I'm never happy... would it be possible to add also the other official Carcassonne colors, that is purple and gray?  :@ :@

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