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Title: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on December 09, 2022, 07:32:17 AM
Hello everyone,

I want to share the tile drawn by Marcel Gröber (designer of the C3 stylish games) during the festival in Carcassonne city in September for the 20th anniversary

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221209/ed995bf66c21f47fe15be104cf26d79f.jpg)


As a fan, player and collector. I can not be happier to have a tile with my effigy !

I printed a lot of thoses tiles on official blank tiles, so if anyone want one, I will be happy to send one (you only have to pay the stamp)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221209/066e2354b0e645d15046f4653aaae98a.jpg)


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: The-Edge on December 09, 2022, 03:32:40 PM
This is the official Linksux tile? Whoehoeaaa. I allready have one. Thank you Linksux too send me one with the Mariosonne. + 1 merit from me
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: DIN0 on December 10, 2022, 01:47:24 AM
What is this??  ???
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on December 10, 2022, 04:47:55 AM
What is this??  ???
Hey,
That’s a tile designed by Marcel Grober during the event in carcassonne for the 20th anniversary

He spent the saturday drowning people on tile and he sent the file some weeks after.

I print mine (and also the one from [mention]oldbonz [/mention])


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Bumsakalaka on December 10, 2022, 05:00:18 AM
@Linksux please and can you share it?

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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: DIN0 on December 10, 2022, 05:55:55 AM
Quote
Hey,
That’s a tile designed by Marcel Grober during the event in carcassonne for the 20th anniversary

He spent the saturday drowning people on tile and he sent the file some weeks after.

That's amazing! I had no idea he did this.
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on December 10, 2022, 06:04:10 AM
On Discord, we have already gathered 4 of these tiles now. Possibly awaiting 2 more tiles.
Maybe we can make a tiny mini expansion out of them...?

There have been already 2 suggestions of rules:

Horus: consider them like "The festival" tiles (in move wood phase you can take a meeple back)
Scott: If you complete a city which includes your own tile, you score double points

Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on December 10, 2022, 07:45:59 AM
On Discord, we have already gathered 4 of these tiles now. Possibly awaiting 2 more tiles.
Maybe we can make a tiny mini expansion out of them...?

There have been already 2 suggestions of rules:

Horus: consider them like "The festival" tiles (in move wood phase you can take a meeple back)
Scott: If you complete a city which includes your own tile, you score double points

Any other suggestions?


I have one also, is it possible to see the other 4?
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on December 10, 2022, 08:11:13 AM
Hi oldbonz, your tile is part of the 4 :)

Can somebody else from Discord please upload the two others here? I have currently no dropbox/Google Drive etc available and therefore cannot share photos...
Thanks!
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on December 10, 2022, 08:18:33 AM
suggestions of rules:

Horus: consider them like "The festival" tiles (in move wood phase you can take a meeple back)
Scott: If you complete a city which includes your own tile, you score double points

More suggestions:
Linksux: the person in the tile is called "giant" (that's a great idea !!  :(y) ); the giant scares farmers and therefore all farmers have to leave the field as soon as a giant is on it
Challa:  the giant helps farmers, i.e. on a field with a giant all cities score +1 point... Or (other possibility) to have the tile on ones field gives a bonus of +5 points...

Any other suggestions?
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on December 10, 2022, 08:32:23 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221210/f60f9c1fec85c0e97f3060d9a8f3ac18.jpg)


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on December 10, 2022, 08:34:53 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221210/9c1ca4aae0f42576191b3edffa73ccca.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221210/f35173cdcb6891effc95bd0d9646a03c.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221210/29a181ee20fe79f05f78a4ca46a92901.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221210/d66912eef6dc832d72df5a7ee3e69713.jpg)


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Bumsakalaka on December 10, 2022, 08:37:25 AM
Cool! Thanks
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on December 10, 2022, 08:38:59 AM
Thanks!
These are all great tiles  :)

I think the rule you made for your tile is too negative :-\
Your tile should be associated with something overwhelmingly positive  :D

Thus my counter-proposition:

Challa:  the giant helps farmers, i.e. on a field with a giant all cities score +1 point... Or (other possibility) to have the tile on ones field gives a bonus of +5 points...

Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on December 10, 2022, 08:45:58 AM
what is the rule for this tile?
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on December 10, 2022, 08:48:33 AM
we are still working on the rules -
do you have an idea how you would like to use your tile?

-----------------------

suggestions from the community are welcome...
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on December 10, 2022, 08:49:36 AM
the final decision on the rules should be with Linksux and you, of course  :)
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on December 10, 2022, 09:00:39 AM
Thanks!
These are all great tiles  :)

I think the rule you made for your tile is too negative :-\
Your tile should be associated with something overwhelmingly positive  :D

Thus my counter-proposition:

Challa:  the giant helps farmers, i.e. on a field with a giant all cities score +1 point... Or (other possibility) to have the tile on ones field gives a bonus of +5 points...

I like the idea of one tile add a bonus and combine with others custom tiles add a super bonus

+1 point per cities is too simple and similar to the pig, maybe something with an impact on the point of the cities directly ?

My proposition : if a player place a meeple on the city of the giant’s tile (of course giant is not a final thing), the city can not be attacked by an other player.
 the effect can be canceled if an other custom tile is played: the player is allowed to place directly a meeple on the occupied city

Maybe too powerful ? I m bad as making rules I need to test thoses things


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on December 10, 2022, 09:18:09 AM
you are right, that's maybe too powerful. May I suggest a sightly different version:

the giant helps a meeple cross the outer wall of the city, and therefore the meeple has direct access to the city.
This means when you add a "giant" tile to a city you can place one of your meeples on the city segment EVEN IF the city is already occupied.

Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on December 10, 2022, 09:34:43 AM
you are right, that's maybe too powerful. May I suggest a sightly different version:

the giant helps a meeple cross the outer wall of the city, and therefore the meeple has direct access to the city.
This means when you add a "giant" tile to a city you can place one of your meeples on the city segment EVEN IF the city is already occupied.
Yes I like it,
[mention]oldbonz [/mention] what do you think ?


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Sinscerly on December 10, 2022, 09:53:05 AM
That's very cool,  :o.  O0
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on December 10, 2022, 10:02:34 AM
you are right, that's maybe too powerful. May I suggest a sightly different version:

the giant helps a meeple cross the outer wall of the city, and therefore the meeple has direct access to the city.
This means when you add a "giant" tile to a city you can place one of your meeples on the city segment EVEN IF the city is already occupied.
Yes I like it,
[mention]oldbonz [/mention] what do you think ?

Well, are you correcting the rule?


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on December 10, 2022, 10:21:25 AM
you are right, that's maybe too powerful. May I suggest a sightly different version:

the giant helps a meeple cross the outer wall of the city, and therefore the meeple has direct access to the city.
This means when you add a "giant" tile to a city you can place one of your meeples on the city segment EVEN IF the city is already occupied.
Yes I like it,
[mention]oldbonz [/mention] what do you think ?

Well, are you correcting the rule?


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Yes but that’s some work to work on the pdf directly.
I want to make sure about the rule before update :)


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on December 10, 2022, 10:49:27 AM
you have to think that several giants could be introduced in the game (for now 4)
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Meepledrone on December 10, 2022, 10:58:15 AM
Another tile for your enjoyment!

(https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6191.0;attach=17960)
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on December 10, 2022, 11:24:01 AM
Another tile for your enjoyment!

(https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6191.0;attach=17960)
Thanks Meepledrone, now we got 5

Maybe we can ask Marcel Grober for the others tiles ?
So with all the tiles configuration it will be easier to think about the rules


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Willem on December 10, 2022, 12:15:16 PM
I'm pretty sure his answer will be no.
The tiles are made personally for the people who were there. Without having their explicit permission, I'm pretty sure he won't send the images out to others, and I doubt he'll reach out to all of them  :o

He might share how many were made, and we could try to ask on (public) fora if people would like to share theirs?
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Bumsakalaka on December 10, 2022, 01:14:24 PM
It's look like that there were used only 3 type of tiles CCFF, CFff and CcFf.
Actually, that illustrations are awesome.
Thanks all for sharing.
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on December 10, 2022, 01:16:51 PM
I'm pretty sure his answer will be no.
The tiles are made personally for the people who were there. Without having their explicit permission, I'm pretty sure he won't send the images out to others, and I doubt he'll reach out to all of them  :o

He might share how many were made, and we could try to ask on (public) fora if people would like to share theirs?
Yes you are probably right,

I don't know how to reach as many people as possible.  on the carcassonne fan France group on Facebook only one person shared his tile :-/


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: TheDoctor_13 on December 11, 2022, 07:58:54 PM
They drew that AT the festival? Wow thats so detailed and cool! I kind of like the Giant taking over the field rules but excited to see what ideas come about
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on January 12, 2023, 11:51:47 AM
So, did you decide on the rules @Linksux ?  :D

I fear there will not be much more feedback... or are there any last minutes comments?
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: ny1050220 on February 15, 2023, 03:23:52 PM
The tile finally arrived after 2 months.
Merci beaucoup, Linksux!
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Meepledrone on February 27, 2023, 01:28:08 PM
Is this tile welcome to the party?

(https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6191.0;attach=18411)
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on February 27, 2023, 02:07:20 PM
woooooooooooooo  ;D

we have a sixth tile !!!!!!!!!  :)  :)  :)

Now we definitely need rules..... @Linksux @oldbonz @Meepledrone
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: PapaGeek on February 27, 2023, 03:36:52 PM
Oh great, now I'm going to have to make one of these tiles for each member of our "four person weekly game group", which, as of two weekends ago is now a five member group!

Guess I'm going to have to take a relaxing picture of each of our members!


Should I also make Halfling tiles for each of our grand children?
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Meepledrone on February 27, 2023, 04:06:00 PM
That sounds like a deep rabbit hole to me!

Have fun!!!
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on February 27, 2023, 10:57:18 PM
Meepledrone had the good idea to do this with the starting tile, on the other hand for an extension, this can become an obstacle, but Linksux will find
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on February 27, 2023, 11:50:43 PM
I don't think it needs to be used as starting tile, this tile also exists in the normal base game (other than starting tile)
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on February 28, 2023, 03:43:51 AM
Now we got 6 tiles! I’m sure something is possible to do and made an expansion with a cool rules !

I’m terribly bad (and new) at making rules

Let’s start again and think about it,
Something positive, because it was drawn during a festival, so let’s be festive, it must add a bonus.

Something about the field? Because the drawings are on the fields.

Ok i will try :

when pausing the special tile on a field that belong to you, the « giant » (or other term : the fan?) increase the value of the cities in the field for your farmers + 1 point per city

it is possible to combine tiles in the same field to multiply the points !
- 1 giant : + 1 point
- 2 giants : + 2 points
- 3 giants : + 3 points per city
- etc

Like the pig of the ext. 2 but it can be increased by the number of the special tiles
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Bumsakalaka on February 28, 2023, 06:45:47 AM
So +1 point per city per giant, right?

Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Meepledrone on February 28, 2023, 07:23:53 AM
Looks nice!!!
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on February 28, 2023, 09:35:07 AM
So +1 point per city per giant, right?
Yup, simple.

New idea :

At the start of the game, the Marcel tiles are distributed to each player (number of tiles to be defined according to the number of players / 2 per player? More in a two players game?)

Then at any time after their turn, a player can play the special tile according the classic rules. It’s like the person on the tile give a little help during the game :)


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on February 28, 2023, 10:08:17 AM
Oh, I like that second idea much better. You mean the giant tile is like a second turn, right?
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on February 28, 2023, 10:14:32 AM
Oh, I like that second idea much better. You mean the giant tile is like a second turn, right?
Yep emoji code106]


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on February 28, 2023, 10:20:47 AM
Great!

I really like this idea better, because the first one might give monumental points advantage on fields which will disturb the balance of the game overall.

The second idea includes the possibility that we can come accross many more of those Marcel Gröber tiles from the Carcassonne event without having to change the rules. Remember, there are at least 20 more of such tiles out there!!
The player can decide at the beginning of the game how many giant tiles they want to give to each player (according to the number of giant tiles available at that moment and according to the number of players participating in the game)

Love it!  :(y)
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: kothmann on February 28, 2023, 10:26:42 AM
Great tiles!  The images all seem to imply relaxation, so here is a rules proposal:

When a special tile is drawn, it is placed as usual.  But no meeple may be placed on the tile.  In fact, no meeple may be placed by any following player on their next turn, so the next occasion when a meeple could be placed will be on the next turn of the player who originally drew the special tile.  (You could prohibit all "move wood" actions and even the dragon would not move!)

This might be too many idle turns?  (Actually, maybe I'll try this as a house rule for any FFFF tiles with no cloister.)

Anyway, have fun.  Would love to see a photo of a final landscape where all these tiles were in play!
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Linkarssonne (Linksux) on March 01, 2023, 03:05:47 AM
Great!

I really like this idea better, because the first one might give monumental points advantage on fields which will disturb the balance of the game overall.

The second idea includes the possibility that we can come accross many more of those Marcel Gröber tiles from the Carcassonne event without having to change the rules. Remember, there are at least 20 more of such tiles out there!!
The player can decide at the beginning of the game how many giant tiles they want to give to each player (according to the number of giant tiles available at that moment and according to the number of players participating in the game)

Love it!  :(y)
Great!

I really like this idea better, because the first one might give monumental points advantage on fields which will disturb the balance of the game overall.

The second idea includes the possibility that we can come accross many more of those Marcel Gröber tiles from the Carcassonne event without having to change the rules. Remember, there are at least 20 more of such tiles out there!!
The player can decide at the beginning of the game how many giant tiles they want to give to each player (according to the number of giant tiles available at that moment and according to the number of players participating in the game)

Love it!  :(y)
There are 26 existing tiles exactly with the meepedrone’s tile.
But I don’t think we can’t get more than the 6 we already have…

What [mention]oldbonz [/mention]and [mention]Meepledrone [/mention]think about the idea of playing a second turn with the special tile when ever a player want ? (tiles distributed at the start of the game)


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Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: lr on March 02, 2023, 02:38:37 AM
I don't think it needs to be used as starting tile, this tile also exists in the normal base game (other than starting tile)

On the other hand, it can be a good idea to use it as a starting tile.

It reminds the players to read the rules of the game (and ask for clarification) before starting the game!    ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Meepledrone on March 04, 2023, 11:57:41 PM
Is this tile welcome to the party?

(https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6191.0;attach=18411)

I posted this little "thank you" video for the wonderful tile on Instagam:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CpYk0QDt1i_/
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on March 05, 2023, 12:18:44 AM
Haha, I am sure this is the coolest thank you video they received for the custom tiles from the Carcassonne Event…  :D
Better late than never …  ;)
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on March 05, 2023, 12:21:09 AM
@Meepledrone did you see that @Linksux is waiting for an answer concerning the rules? (See 3 posts earlier)
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Meepledrone on March 05, 2023, 12:35:09 AM
Yes... ha ha ha!

You could povide various rules sets:
* No points and maybe starting tiles
* Field points buster (+1 point giant in a field) - giant tiles shuffeled as usual
* Additional turn (one giant tiles per player distributed at random during game setup)

You could also use a similar mechanic to The Astronomers (by @Decar ), where you get points when placing the tile and extra points if aligned with other giant tiles placed previously:

https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1902.msg30330#msg30330 (https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1902.msg30330#msg30330)

Why not providing new options? >:D
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on March 05, 2023, 01:05:45 AM
Well, if you want something "new" then the rules of the Astronomers are "old" too  ;)

I had suggested the following rules (as something new):

The giant helps a meeple climb the outer wall of the city, and therefore the meeple has direct access to the city.
This means when you add a "giant" tile to a city, you can place one of your meeples on the city segment EVEN IF the city is already occupied
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Meepledrone on March 05, 2023, 02:42:43 AM
Ahhhhhh! So many options...  ^-^
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on March 05, 2023, 03:18:46 AM
another way is possible, each player starts the game with a giant in his reserve, he places it when he wants during the game on his turn, he places a meeple on it, when the 8 adjacent tiles are placed he takes back his meeple, does not count points but has the possibility of playing with an additional follower
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: gamgeefan2 on March 05, 2023, 06:50:49 AM
I had suggested the following rules (as something new):

The giant helps a meeple climb the outer wall of the city, and therefore the meeple has direct access to the city.
This means when you add a "giant" tile to a city, you can place one of your meeples on the city segment EVEN IF the city is already occupied
Nice idea!  This one sounds particularly fun, and appropriate to the giant theme.
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on April 07, 2023, 11:38:31 AM
another way is possible, each player starts the game with a giant in his reserve, he places it when he wants during the game on his turn, he places a meeple on it, when the 8 adjacent tiles are placed he takes back his meeple, does not count points but has the possibility of playing with an additional follower

soon some of us will have 5 different tiles, we can consider, since the giants are in the fields, that the player who places his giant can place a farmer on the area that interests him if it is not occupied
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on April 10, 2023, 02:14:45 AM
mistake on my part, 6 tiles, and here they are together
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on April 10, 2023, 09:33:49 AM
Hey @oldbonz,
yes, it's 6 tiles now, but the black man standing is not from Marcel Gröber. You missed the man lying in the field....  :D

https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=6191.msg90768#msg90768 (https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=6191.msg90768#msg90768)
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on April 10, 2023, 09:38:25 AM
Hey @oldbonz,
yes, it's 6 tiles now, but the black man standing is not from Marcel Gröber. You missed the man lying in the field....  :D

https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=6191.msg90768#msg90768 (https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=6191.msg90768#msg90768)

I know
but i think meeplerone is better standing,
I'm going to do a test with his lying portrait


Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on April 10, 2023, 09:47:18 AM
with that of Marcel Groeber
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Challa007 on April 10, 2023, 09:51:44 AM
Perfect!!!  :D
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: Meepledrone on April 10, 2023, 02:40:23 PM
Looks awesome!!!
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: seli82 on April 11, 2023, 12:00:49 PM
Ich habe versucht mich selbst auf eine Karte zubekommen. :))
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: oldbonz on April 11, 2023, 12:51:06 PM
Ich habe versucht mich selbst auf eine Karte zubekommen. :))

is it a drawing by Marcel Groeber ?
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: seli82 on April 12, 2023, 12:44:15 AM
Nein, leider nur eine Spielerei von mir.
Title: Re: Personal tile from Marcel Gröber
Post by: stepukiss on April 20, 2023, 04:18:59 AM
nice tiles and nice rules, definitely will play with this rules :)