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Carc Central Community => News and Events => Topic started by: Bumsakalaka on October 09, 2020, 08:31:57 AM
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At german forum was published picture of new Winter Edition.
It has River expansion but without Abbot and gardens.
I put it here, because this picture looks really REAL ;-)
What do you think?
About reedition of Winter edition was discition and rumors.
Maybe, SPIEL.digital is comming, it is real.
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The design of the box follows the C2 design: Full image slightly framed. Game name over the top part of the image.
You can see the regular WE box cover here and compare:
(http://wikicarpedia.com/images/5/5b/Box_WE_HiG.png)
A member of CarcF found this while shopping in Stuttgart today:
https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=5126&start=15#p70695 (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=155&t=5126&start=15#p70695)
Check the curve of the river: there something brownish resembling a garden, tight? But there is no mention on the box like you you said.
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So it seems after all that HiG just rebundled it to add the River and get our money...
Will HIG dare to release WE I&C and WE T&B or even a WE Big Box? :o
What abut a WE P&D with an ice dragon... I think I'm feverish...
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The gardens are dead, so have no value. The farmers can ice skate over the river, so it doesn't break up the farms. >:D
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The pseudo-garden will probably have no function. Certain non-base game tiles present in the old winter version had pseudo-inns, but those didn't have any functions either.
So wait, this new edition just has the river, otherwise it is exactly the same?
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Let's just hope it will be available separately at some point :)
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Doubtful. But maybe HiG will surprise us.
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Did everyone forget about the gingerbread
man person???
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Nope. Never!
Why?
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They lost me here
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regarding C1 I have always wondered why the reindeer had not replaced the sheep
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Oh boy I think I am one of the very few people who would actually benefit from this product. I have all of the winter edition mini-expansions but not the winter edition base game itself! So to get said game with a new River included, sign me up!
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I have copy of the original version, so now it's time to get a new copy so I can play double base-game games plus river. Isn't it awesome?
I'm wondering if the animal tiles will come with rules this time... ^-^
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Would be about time! :@
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Do you think HiG had enough to think it through after 8 years? >:D
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8 years = 7 types of animal + 1 river. Math works out >:D
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Unfortunately, no one included Gingerbread and Crop Circles in this mathematical equation! :(n)
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The WE crop circles are still on sale on Cundco.de...
The Gingerbread Man is a difficult piece to catch these days...
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Haha. Xmas comming bake own Gingerbread man. Ops. "print" :)
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You know there are pastry printers...
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Damn!! I will buy it because of the river but.... Seems the tiles are the same??? Hope they will make more mini expansions specially xmas theme and not the same classic expansions with snow on the tiles only haha
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The WE crop circles are still on sale on Cundco.de...
The Gingerbread Man is a difficult piece to catch these days...
I have one gingerbread for someone who still needs it. Send me a dm
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Since it has the River included and it seems the new H&G came with expansion tiles, do we have a tile list for this one? Do we know if it comes with Crop Circles and Gingerbread Man included?
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German only with River.
That Gingerbread and Crop circles was only xmas wish of audience here in forum ;-)
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So it looks exactly like the old one? Not even abbots/gardens were added? The artwork already existed in the - now discontinued - Carcassonne iOS app. It had Winter version of River, Gardens, German Cathedrals and expansions 1 to 3.
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Yop, there is also Tower in Winter edition as fan expansion
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I don't know if this is a coincidence but some months ago some WE fan expansions were removed from CarcF... Don't know if at HiG's request.
A few are still left though: I&C, The Tower, German Cathedrals, Cathars (The Snowman)... Almost all the WE stuff on CarcF is for the Download Version.
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For me this photo looks a little fake. First off, the front of the box looks almost the exact same(the ice castle at the bottom corner is the only difference), and if you look closely the box on the right has the front cover on it, which means these are two different boxes! Plus, why would HiG just make the same game with just the river added?
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Maybe it is not fake and HiG are just (re-)launching a new WE series...
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Could be, but then why wouldn’t they include Abbots?
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I think they all went to the Alpes to skii... ;)
Maybe that's the price to pay for keeping the extra 12 tiles with animals...
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maybe not everyone
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Ha ha ha! ;D
I see your are ready for Winter!
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Winter Edition is exclusively availlable in germany at Müller Shop and later @cundco.
https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/games/carcassonne-winter-edition-2020.html (https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/games/carcassonne-winter-edition-2020.html)
And btw. 2021will be an interesting carcassonne year :yellow-meeple:
https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/carcassonne20/our-carcassonne-family.html#content (https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/carcassonne20/our-carcassonne-family.html#content)
New maps (USA), an anniversary Edition and Mode :)
PS: new Winter Edition tile list:
https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/_Resources/Persistent/da24592e46f15520b166dd3ab630110c546a59f3/CarcBasis_Winter_20_Plaett_Liste.pdf (https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/_Resources/Persistent/da24592e46f15520b166dd3ab630110c546a59f3/CarcBasis_Winter_20_Plaett_Liste.pdf)
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German Cathedrals in New Edition.
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What scares me a bit is the new Carcassonne Symbol + logo on the top left corner :)
"hey guys, let's change the back of the tiles to make it more modern"
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I didn’t even notice that. I think the old logo looks better.
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Should we expect a "The Festival 3", or is it too early?
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Yes. I guess, it will be Festival 3 + one of Wind roses, Phantom or Little buildings.
After this yer, I don't thing it will cone something new/special ;-(
But maybe I'll be surprised (I HOPE)
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This is exciting stuff! More maps is always good, Cathedrals for the C2 collectors and some kind of anniversary edition.
The new logo is probably for this special edition.
(But please no more Festival, two is enough, we want something new)
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German Cathedrals in New Edition.
Ha ha ha!
I had this feeling in my guts about German Cathedrals... :o
The USA Maps look cool...
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Nobody is gonna mention the greyed out teaser for the Carcassonne Anniversary edition??? :P
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Nope! I'm in denial! >:D
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I'm just thinking on the new font and its implications....
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4831.0 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4831.0)
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No! Please not a new edition! Why can’t they just stick to one art? :(
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No re-imagining should happen for now. Let HiG create some new expansions. They owe us... ;)
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Any word on weather or not Winter is real?
I really hope they don't do another new art edition for base, this past one barely got anything new. I can see maybe a One-off deluxe version maybe in a big box style..
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Any word on weather or not Winter is real?
I really hope they don't do another new art edition for base, this past one barely got anything new. I can see maybe a One-off deluxe version maybe in a big box style..
There is a new edition that includes a winter-themed River expansion, but the tile backs and art style won't change. This new version will be available at Cundco and Muller stores in Germany.
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Yes its real
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Yes its real
You can see the new design on HiG's site:
https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/carcassonne20/our-carcassonne-family.html#content (https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/carcassonne20/our-carcassonne-family.html#content)
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Winter Edition is exclusively availlable in germany at Müller Shop and later @cundco.
https://www.hans-im-glueck.de/en/games/carcassonne-winter-edition-2020.html
Does anyone have any guesses when the Winter Edition will be available at cundco? I'm anxious to order all the other new stuff, but with the high cost of shipping to the U.S.A. I'd like to make just one big order.
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At Cundco is written, that Spiel '20 Tile will be also available on mid-november sale.
So I quess, maybe than will be also available Winter Edition.
If you don't want to wait, you can "buy" it here:
https://www.mueller.de/p/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-2662991/
Only problem is, that you have to go to Muller shop directly in germany and pay it there ;-)
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Ha ha, don't think I can afford to make a 4,000 mile trip to Germany right now...
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Ah so it is... I should have added the winter mini expansion in my cundco order
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Ah so it is... I should have added the winter mini expansion in my cundco order
You can jump with Tardis ;-)
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I thought it would already be on sale in cundco ... surely by November it will be ...
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Since I didn't see follow up on this edition, I went and bought one and I notice a couple changes
The coat of arms are significantly bigger on the new version
They added a lot more buildings on the city part (before there was just a couple of them but now i generally fill the whole space
Therre are 2 small easter eggs on the river tiles (they have all darker blue back btw): one has a rober hidden next to a road disguised as santa + one has a frozen vineyard/garden, the original base game tiles doesn't add novelties
hope it helps, shoot if you have more questions :)
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Since I didn't see follow up on this edition, I went and bought one and I notice a couple changes
The coat of arms are significantly bigger on the new version
They added a lot more buildings on the city part (before there was just a couple of them but now i generally fill the whole space
Therre are 2 small easter eggs on the river tiles (they have all darker blue back btw): one has a rober hidden next to a road disguised as santa + one has a frozen vineyard/garden, the original base game tiles doesn't add novelties
hope it helps, shoot if you have more questions :)
I noticed those easter eggs on the tiles and included them on the Tile Reference initially, but after checking that neither the new WE rules and nor the Tile Distribution distributed by HiG as a separate sheet didn't mention them, I removed that extra info precisely yesterday. :o
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Is this new edition available yet? I saw a copy being sold on ebay.
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For the time being, it seems to be at least available in he Müller retail stores in Germany and on their website...
https://www.mueller.de/p/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-2662991/ (https://www.mueller.de/p/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-2662991/)
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If someone happens to see the new version of Winter Edition in stock somewhere and also happens to remember this post, it'd be great if someone would PM me so that I can pick up a copy - :pink-meeple:
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Got a german friend who kept me one at Muller, and sent me it back to France.
Not bad
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I've also been waiting for this since it came out. Any kind souls in Germany want to send one to USA?? :)
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They are available, with the gingerbread man at some places for outrageous prices. I’ll wait for another time when they’ll appear again.
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My Winter Edition with the River showed up today. I noticed a few small differences between the new and old scoreboards that I thought others might like to see as well (Old on top, new on bottom):
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My friend in Germany was able to order the Muller WE, for me.
But... I already own the 2012 Schmidt edition, with 84 tiles.
Where are the differences?
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The new edition includes the 84 tiles plus 12 river tiles. However the artwork is slightly different. For example, the city segments have more houses.
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I have also noticed that my original version has yellowed quite a bit. It is not very noticeable until you put the two side by side though. Now I will have to get over different shades of white on top of the greens! ;D
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Did anyone ever volunteer to organize a group buy to send to winter river copies to the USA? - :pink-meeple:
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Did anyone ever volunteer to organize a group buy to send to winter river copies to the USA? - :pink-meeple:
I think we're all still waiting for them to become available from CundCo. I am planning to get mine in December, hopefully with the Spiel '21 tile (fingers crossed that it's the last one of that type of promo), a pink Abbot, and a few other odds and ends.
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Indeed, very wise. - :pink-meeple:
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Hi all,
I have made the acquaintance of kind individual in Europe who would be able to get copies of the winter river edition from Mueller shops to us in the USA. I know that some have expressed a desire to wait and see what CundCo does, and this question is if there is anyone here who would like to consider going on a group buy to save on shopping over the pond en masse.
Lemme know - :pink-meeple:
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In a word YES! I've been impatiently waiting ever since it came out (and checking Cundco almost daily). So I'm definitely interested. For shipping calculations I live in Pennsylvania. Thanks for giving me hope!
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Cool, I'll start a thread. - :pink-meeple:
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They are for sale right now at Muller for only 19,99 euro.
https://www.mueller.de/p/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-2662991/
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Ah! I missed it, sold out already :(
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Must have been quick, I missed it shortly after discovering the post :(
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The winter edition is available again :D
https://www.mueller.de/p/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-2662991/
:white-meeple:
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New version of the award-winning game. Now in 3D. Includes improved AI, 3D landscape and new exclusive features. A PLACEMENT GAME WHERE YOU CREATE LANDSCAPES, CONQUER TERRITORIES AND EARN POINTS Discover the award-winning Carcassonne game in which players draw and place tiles to build a medieval city. Place your cities, roads, monasteries or meadows to enlarge your landscape and then your followers, the followers. Knights, robbers or pawns... Each follower will help you control your territory and score points. But be careful, you'll need your best strategies and tactics to maximize your points! Place your tiles and followers wisely to stop your opponents and win the game.
I have questions.
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I mean anything's an improvement over non-existent....
And the tiles are technically 3D; they exist.
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Je suis intéressé. Quelqu'un accepterait- il de me l'envoyer en France ? le
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Je suis intéressé. Quelqu'un accepterait- il de me l'envoyer en France ? le
Are you by any chance at the upcoming boardgame fair in Essen?
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Malheureusement non.
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Winter is coming
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To be fair it's been and gone twice before already
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Malheureusement non.
ok, because otherwise I could have given it to you or someone you know maybe at the fair.
Do you actually want the whole game or just the river expansion?
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Do you actually want the whole game or just the river expansion?
I'm trying to buy directly to the site (having a hard time because of the fact that it's only in German but Deepl is my friend) and I can't find the River expansion, only the base game (https://www.mueller.de/p/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-2662991/). Where's the expansion?
EDIT: "We currently ship to Germany only". Ok now I understand. Can some good german soul get the game for me and ship it to my home? Of course I will pay everything (game + website shipping cost + shipping cost to me) in advance.
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Je veux au minimum l'extension la rivière mais je suis aussi intéressé par le jeu complet.
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Do you actually want the whole game or just the river expansion?
I'm trying to buy directly to the site (having a hard time because of the fact that it's only in German but Deepl is my friend) and I can't find the River expansion, only the base game (https://www.mueller.de/p/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-2662991/). Where's the expansion?
The River expansion is included in this base game. It is not available separately. But some people had been selling the River expansion on it's own, as some buyers only really wanted the winter River, and might already have a Winter base game.
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Asmodee DE have now also announced the 2020 Winter edition for this coming winter.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ch4X_r-NKNF/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
So we can expect it to get a wider release this time!
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Asmodee DE have now also announced the 2020 Winter edition for this coming winter.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Ch4X_r-NKNF/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
So we can expect it to get a wider release this time!
Whoo, another stuff to collect?
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Two years later only? >:D
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Two years later only? >:D
It it was exclusive contractor Muller, why not
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This means that from October the Winter edition will be available easily instead of having to look for obscure 200€-plus-shipping listings on eBay?
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It seems to be more widely available from October indeed. For now only expected in Germany, but the wider release will probably make it easier to order from outside of Germany
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As comented by @BigBoss on Discord, there are several sites online offering the WE 2020. The availability and shipping costs may differ, so pick your poisson:
https://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Carcassonne-Winteredition-1012328.html (https://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Carcassonne-Winteredition-1012328.html)
https://www.fantasy-in.de/detail/index/sArticle/20269/sCategory/0 (https://www.fantasy-in.de/detail/index/sArticle/20269/sCategory/0)
https://spieletaxi.de/Carcassonne-Winter-Edition (https://spieletaxi.de/Carcassonne-Winter-Edition)
https://brettspiel-pioniere.de/produkt/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-neuauflage/ (https://brettspiel-pioniere.de/produkt/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-neuauflage/)
https://www.allgames4you.de/epages/AllGames4you.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/AllGames4you/Products/HN0506 (https://www.allgames4you.de/epages/AllGames4you.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/AllGames4you/Products/HN0506)
https://www.pixxass.de/Hans-im-Glueck-Carcassonne-Winteredition-DE (https://www.pixxass.de/Hans-im-Glueck-Carcassonne-Winteredition-DE)
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It is great to hear that they are going to be for sale not only in the Müller store. I hope 999games will release the dutch version. That would be nice
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I’m still hoping that one day the winter river will be available separately on cundco.
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I’m still hoping that one day the winter river will be available separately on cundco.
That would be better for everyone here
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As comented by @BigBoss on Discord, there are several sites online offering the WE 2020. The availability and shipping costs may differ, so pick your poisson:
https://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Carcassonne-Winteredition-1012328.html (https://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Carcassonne-Winteredition-1012328.html)
https://www.fantasy-in.de/detail/index/sArticle/20269/sCategory/0 (https://www.fantasy-in.de/detail/index/sArticle/20269/sCategory/0)
https://spieletaxi.de/Carcassonne-Winter-Edition (https://spieletaxi.de/Carcassonne-Winter-Edition)
https://brettspiel-pioniere.de/produkt/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-neuauflage/ (https://brettspiel-pioniere.de/produkt/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-neuauflage/)
https://www.allgames4you.de/epages/AllGames4you.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/AllGames4you/Products/HN0506 (https://www.allgames4you.de/epages/AllGames4you.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/AllGames4you/Products/HN0506)
https://www.pixxass.de/Hans-im-Glueck-Carcassonne-Winteredition-DE (https://www.pixxass.de/Hans-im-Glueck-Carcassonne-Winteredition-DE)
Thank you. None of these sites have an english version so I'll try to use Deepl to understand which one delivers outside Germany. One question about something that I didn't understand, sorry if this has been discussed already: the old version of the game DOESN'T include the winter river expansion, while the version that will be released in october will? Is this correct?
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yes, the version that is said to be re-released this october is the one with the River included :)
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yes, the version that is said to be re-released this october is the one with the River included :)
Thank you. I still have a doubt. If I put on Deepl the text on this page from the list posted before (https://www.pixxass.de/Hans-im-Glueck-Carcassonne-Winteredition-DE), I get "12 additional tiles with lovely, wintry illustrations of animals. Includes the mini-expansion The River".
So if I get this, I also get the river expansion? But it's not the re-release? It's the "old" version?
It says "Delivery time: 1 - 3 working days (abroad)" so it can't be the new release but it also have the river expansion?
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yes, the version that is said to be re-released this october is the one with the River included :)
Thank you. I still have a doubt. If I put on Deepl the text on this page from the list posted before (https://www.pixxass.de/Hans-im-Glueck-Carcassonne-Winteredition-DE), I get "12 additional tiles with lovely, wintry illustrations of animals. Includes the mini-expansion The River".
So if I get this, I also get the river expansion? But it's not the re-release? It's the "old" version?
It says "Delivery time: 1 - 3 working days (abroad)" so it can't be the new release but it also have the river expansion?
I’m not sure what you mean, it looks like the new version (both the front cover and the back which also shows the river tiles). Some places seem to have started selling it recently.
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Yes, if you get that, you should be getting the latest version (2020), with the River included.
The Winter Edition has always had 12 more tiles than the normal game. It has the standard 72 tiles, plus 12 tiles with winter animals. However, there are no separate rules for them.
This version (the 2020 version) has the river on top of that.
I would call this the re-release of the 2020 version, but of course let's not try to confuse ourselves with the namings.
The website you refer to has the 2020 version listed, including the river edition. Asmodee DE said that it is expected to be released in October, but perhaps some shops have already gotten stock.
I doubt that it would be the 'normal'/'old' winter edition, as that has been out of print for several years already.
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I’m not sure what you mean
Neither am I. Some places I read the game will be available from october, some places I see it available already...
Well I'll just buy it, let's see what I'll get ;D
Yes, if you get that, you should be getting the latest version (2020), with the River included.
Thank you for confirming this!
EDIT: 14€ shipping for a 28€ purchase... thank you but no thank you!!! ::)
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I’m not sure what you mean
Neither am I. Some places I read the game will be available from october, some places I see it available already...
Well I'll just buy it, let's see what I'll get ;D
Yeah it’s a bit odd, but sometimes it happens. Another game I’m following (Horizons of Spirit Island) also seems to have been hitting shelves some time before its release date.
Good luck with the order!
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14€ shipping for a 28€ purchase... thank you but no thank you!!! ::)
Take it from someone who buys a lot of stuff internationally: that’s very cheap for shipping.
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Take it from someone who buys a lot of stuff internationally: that’s very cheap for shipping.
On its own, maybe. I pay 19€ every time I shop from Cundco but my orders are 100/120€ each. Never had a problem with it.
14€ shipping on a 28€ purchase is 50% of the price of the object. For me, it's not acceptable. I'll just wait for a non German site to sell it 8)
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I'll offer you one for €100 +€14 shipping; then it's only 14%! :P
I would agree that it's a bit high on such a purchase
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Take it from someone who buys a lot of stuff internationally: that’s very cheap for shipping.
On its own, maybe. I pay 19€ every time I shop from Cundco but my orders are 100/120€ each. Never had a problem with it.
14€ shipping on a 28€ purchase is 50% of the price of the object. For me, it's not acceptable. I'll just wait for a non German site to sell it 8)
Well that's just the shipping price for a minimum parcel from Germany to the outside world...
It's a bit crazy but shipping from BE to NL is around 8 euro's and DE to NL is 14. (I know, I know. DE is much bigger :p)
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Well that's just the shipping price for a minimum parcel from Germany to the outside world...
As I said, I'm not complaining about the price itself. I periodically spend 19€ for shipment from Cundco and I never complained, because my orders were always very big.
I'm saying that paying 14€ for shipping a 28€ product is madness, and I'd rather not to do that.
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In some stores they are allready for sale in Germany and not only in the Müller store.
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As comented by @BigBoss on Discord, there are several sites online offering the WE 2020. The availability and shipping costs may differ, so pick your poisson:
https://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Carcassonne-Winteredition-1012328.html (https://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Carcassonne-Winteredition-1012328.html)
https://www.fantasy-in.de/detail/index/sArticle/20269/sCategory/0 (https://www.fantasy-in.de/detail/index/sArticle/20269/sCategory/0)
https://spieletaxi.de/Carcassonne-Winter-Edition (https://spieletaxi.de/Carcassonne-Winter-Edition)
https://brettspiel-pioniere.de/produkt/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-neuauflage/ (https://brettspiel-pioniere.de/produkt/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-neuauflage/)
https://www.allgames4you.de/epages/AllGames4you.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/AllGames4you/Products/HN0506 (https://www.allgames4you.de/epages/AllGames4you.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/AllGames4you/Products/HN0506)
https://www.pixxass.de/Hans-im-Glueck-Carcassonne-Winteredition-DE (https://www.pixxass.de/Hans-im-Glueck-Carcassonne-Winteredition-DE)
Just ordered from fantasy-in.de. Luckily shipping to Italy with DPD is very cheap, just 8€. Paid 36€ total!
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Just ordered from fantasy-in.de.
Price of the game: 27,99€
Free shipping from: 29€
My Scrooge sense is tickling ;D
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Just ordered from fantasy-in.de.
Price of the game: 27,99€
Free shipping from: 29€
My Scrooge sense is tickling ;D
Free shipping was for Germany only anyway.
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Isn't the fact that one (1) tile in the whole base game box shows a garden on it, but it's not playable given the fact that the Winter Edition is designed in a pseudo C1 style therefore lacking gardens everywhere else? I'm not adding abbots to a game for just one (1) garden on the whole map. My in-universe view is that garden is yes a garden, but it's dead due to the cold, therefore no one want to go there, let alone an abbot who is very busy O:-)
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You can still play abbot meeple on Winter edition. But it will be limited just for 6 monasteries.
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You can still play abbot meeple on Winter edition. But it will be limited just for 6 monasteries.
As I said, I'm not doing that. The point was the garden present on the tile of a game version that predates C1
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Winter Edition doesn't come with Abbots does it? I'm certain the 1st edition doesn't, almost sure about the 2nd edition.
It feels a bit silly complaining that you can't use a feature in a game where it is not meant to be used in :o
It could be meant as decoration, like the animal tiles before ;D
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When i play the winter edition i always play with the abbot and the builders. Its more fun
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It feels a bit silly complaining that you can't use a feature in a game where it is not meant to be used in :o
Guys my english is not perfect but sometimes I wonder if you even read my posts. I never complained about not being able to use abbots. I was noticing that a game version who does not include abbots include an abbott mechanic instead, something that's weird to me. It was intended as a playful remark.
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I think I share a similar opinion. The art for boxed Winter Edition was originally done by Anne Pätzke. So in my opinion the Winter edition isn't a "pseudo-C1" it's more like a "proto-C2". C2 came out a little later, after the snow melts, C2 is Carcassonne: Summer edition.
It's made more complicated because the recent release of the Winter Edition, that includes this tile with a garden, will have been overseen by Marcel Grober, the artist responsible for C3. But maybe the tiles were created earlier.
Either way, I think this tile is a nice way to show that the games are in the same place, it is Carcassonne after all.
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Seems like a good time to repost an image I made back in 2015"
(http://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/fun/CarcVersionsCompared.png)
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It feels a bit silly complaining that you can't use a feature in a game where it is not meant to be used in :o
Guys my english is not perfect but sometimes I wonder if you even read my posts. I never complained about not being able to use abbots. I was noticing that a game version who does not include abbots include an abbott mechanic instead, something that's weird to me. It was intended as a playful remark.
I've reread your post, but I still read it as you saying you're not adding abbots to the winter edition, which sounds like a negative to me.
As Decar mentioned, it was designed by Anne Pätzke, before the C2. When it was made, the abbot mechanic didn't exist.
I'd see it more as such, as decoration ;D
I like the idea of the garden being frozen in Winter and therefore not being used, only to melt in the spring!
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Am I the only one who sees a vineyard? (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221022/7f6a378ee951f36582554044c099a297.jpg)
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Yes :)
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It should be a garden frozen in Winter, but HiG does not give it any specific use in the WE.
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Are there any good places to purchase a genuine copy of the winter edition with the river expansion these days? Would love to get one, but sure eBay is full of fakes, all shops in Australia are out of stock and postage is crazy these days. If anyone knows any good locations it would be great. My poor little gingerbread man is so lonely.
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As comented by @BigBoss on Discord, there are several sites online offering the WE 2020. The availability and shipping costs may differ, so pick your poisson:
https://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Carcassonne-Winteredition-1012328.html (https://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Carcassonne-Winteredition-1012328.html)
https://www.fantasy-in.de/detail/index/sArticle/20269/sCategory/0 (https://www.fantasy-in.de/detail/index/sArticle/20269/sCategory/0)
https://spieletaxi.de/Carcassonne-Winter-Edition (https://spieletaxi.de/Carcassonne-Winter-Edition)
https://brettspiel-pioniere.de/produkt/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-neuauflage/ (https://brettspiel-pioniere.de/produkt/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-neuauflage/)
https://www.allgames4you.de/epages/AllGames4you.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/AllGames4you/Products/HN0506 (https://www.allgames4you.de/epages/AllGames4you.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/AllGames4you/Products/HN0506)
https://www.pixxass.de/Hans-im-Glueck-Carcassonne-Winteredition-DE (https://www.pixxass.de/Hans-im-Glueck-Carcassonne-Winteredition-DE)
Did you check these stores?
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The only place I found that would ship the 2020 Winter Edition with River to Australia when I ordered was via Amazon.de
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The only place I found that would ship the 2020 Winter Edition with River to Australia when I ordered was via Amazon.de
And these shipping costs are sky high offcourse.
I am not from Germany but I have to drive 40 minutes to get there.
My wife and I sometimes go shopping there. Maybe I can buy them there and send them.
I think shipping costs with PostNL are around 20 euros, also to Australia for example under 2 kg with track and trace.
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The only place I found that would ship the 2020 Winter Edition with River to Australia when I ordered was via Amazon.de
And these shipping costs are sky high offcourse.
I am not from Germany but I have to drive 40 minutes to get there.
My wife and I sometimes go shopping there. Maybe I can buy them there and send them.
I think shipping costs with PostNL are around 20 euros, also to Australia for example under 2 kg with track and trace.
I paid 20 eur for postage with Amazon, although I just checked then and the price has gone up to about 28 eur for shipping now.
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The winter edition is on sale at the Müller store. I hope other stores will follow.
https://www.mueller.de/p/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-2662991/ (https://www.mueller.de/p/hans-im-glueck-carcassonne-winter-edition-2662991/)
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Has there been any news on an English release for this edition? My Gingerbread man and Crop circles are lonely.
From what I understand going through the thread, this was a special limited release though it got a wider release from HIG and Asmodee DE this year so it feels more possible now.
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No news yet, and I wouldn't hold my breath :o
ZMG have not been the fastest with new releases, and Im not expecting them to bring this one out tbh. It was a limited release in Germany that got a wider release now, but no news from any other publisher making this in a localised version. A lot of publishers have made the winter edition, and have stopped making them for a while now
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No news yet, and I wouldn't hold my breath :o
ZMG have not been the fastest with new releases, and Im not expecting them to bring this one out tbh. It was a limited release in Germany that got a wider release now, but no news from any other publisher making this in a localised version. A lot of publishers have made the winter edition, and have stopped making them for a while now
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I am patient in the wait.. I prefer having english editions, I even went the more expensive english castle and got the falcon printed instead of the more affordable Zamek edition. I guess I will have too keep my eye out on a cheap english of the old version and buy then sell a german edition for the river tiles.
What made this different for other publishers to not localize it? H&G got picked up and both have been out of print for a similar time. This still released under Carcassonne unlike Zamek (at-least I don't think its no longer connected?).
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There are no English versions of the Winter edition. Get yourself a German copy of the latest version. The only thing in German is the rules, and we have Wikicarpedia for that.
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Hello everyone
There is a winter edition in Chinese that will be released in Taiwan. But the release date has not been set.
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@Willem Alert!!!
@Willem Alert!!!
@Willem Alert!!!
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I'm on it!
Just need to wait for it to be released!
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The French winter edition is scheduled for December 14 and is currently available for pre-order:
https://www.ludifolie.com/1545-carcassonne-hiver.html
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Thanks for letting us know! I love the look of the front of the box; the font makes it look quite special!
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Small curiosity, on the side of the box that we see on the image, it is specified that it contains the mini-extensions "L'Abbé" and "La Rivière".
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Small curiosity, on the side of the box that we see on the image, it is specified that it contains the mini-extensions "L'Abbé" and "La Rivière".
It will have refreshed tiles, few gardens visible, this time more alive and on more than just a river tile like last time.
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In the photo, the tiles look different compared to the current German edition
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It feels a bit silly complaining that you can't use a feature in a game where it is not meant to be used in :o
Guys my english is not perfect but sometimes I wonder if you even read my posts. I never complained about not being able to use abbots. I was noticing that a game version who does not include abbots include an abbott mechanic instead, something that's weird to me. It was intended as a playful remark.
I think Sir loose a ferm will be satisfied with this new edition which will fully allow him to use Abbots in winter!
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I also says it contains gingerbread man expansion :)
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It will therefore be necessary to buy this new edition in order to see what it contains exactly. ^-^
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Here is the back of the box: The river and the Abbot are present, but there is a priori no gingerbread man.
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Here is the back of the box: The river and the Abbot are present, but there is a priori no gingerbread man.
The abbot is present.... this means the tiles will now have gardens on and this is a new winter edition right?
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It's my impression. The tiles also look more colorful than in thé german édition.
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Well. Nice, so we will be 4th version of Winter :D
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I’ve send a mail to 999 Games if they also will produce a new C3 version of Carc Winter in 2023
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I'm going to see if in 2 days it's in stores
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At least from the picture you can tell the river curve with a garden has been updated.
I asked HiG about this garden precisely in the German WE and they told that was not a garden... It seems it wasn't a proper garden yet. >:D
(https://wikicarpedia.com/images/c/cf/Winter_Edition_River_I_WE_Tile_J.png)
River curve with frozen patch (not garden ;)) from the WE edition rleased by HiG in 2020
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Great, now I need to buy again.
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At least Asmodee Canada has already announced it in their shop:
https://asmodee-canada.shop/pre-orders/carcassonne-edition-hiver-fr-q1-2023-higcarchi01fr
with a release date of September 2022.....
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Can this be the prelude to a WE Big Box?
Since CarcF deleted some links to fan expansions for WE, I've been toying with this idea for some time... >:D
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Do you think redesign of "green" Carcassonne to Winter Edition?
I'll rather to see some special winter related expansions in Winter Edition. Like Ice Queen :D
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a big winter box yum yum
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@oldbonz Cool, let's go!
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When checked images, W3 River has same configuration as C3 River.
W3 = Winter Edition 2022
W2 = Winter Edition 2020
WE = Winter Edition 2012
WD = Winter Download
What do you think about edition codes?
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When checked images, W3 River has same configuration as C3 River.
W3 = Winter Edition 2022
W2 = Winter Edition 2020
WE = Winter Edition 2012
WD = Winter Download
What do you think about edition codes?
WE1, WE2 , WE3. All PnPs are fakes.
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Great, now I need to buy again.
If it has the Gingerbreadman, I'm in too.
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It comes with The River, The Abbot and the 12 extra tiles with animals. No sign of the Gingerbread Man. :'(
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My copy is on the way, I should receive it Friday I hope! :)
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We want pictures... And a full review... You know! ;)
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Noted ! ;D
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And we have also announced Bulgarian version.
Thanks to report by @adahy
https://bigbag.bg/carcassonne-winter-edition (https://bigbag.bg/carcassonne-winter-edition)
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Also in Romanian language: https://carturesti.ro/boardgame/carcassonne-editia-de-iarna-2038147988
From the back of the box I also found out about http://carcassonne.ro/index.html (a site by Lineart about Carcassonne in Romania), which is work in progress... I am curious about how does it will look like when it will be finished.
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He arrived ! The tiles are much more colorful than in the German 2020 edition.
I have attached a photographic comparison between the 2 editions.
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The Abbots and the gardens are present!
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Small difference concerning the Abbot: The gardens are replaced by Sapinières! ???
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Here is the pictures:
(https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123411.jpg)
(https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123437.jpg)
(https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123437_1.jpg>)
(https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123601.jpg)
(https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123612.jpg)
(https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123621.jpg)
(https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123629.jpg)
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(https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123648.jpg)
(https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123656.jpg)
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Here is the pictures:
https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123411.jpg (https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123411.jpg)
Just fix of previous comment with correct link
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Here is the pictures:
https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123411.jpg (https://www.tehill.net/carcassonne/general/we3/IMG_20221216_123411.jpg)
Just fix of previous comment with correct link
It is done :)
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it might be good to include a width in the img tags :)
so [img width=300]image link [ / img] for example
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it might be good to include a width in the img tags :)
so [img width=300]image link [ / img] for example
It's done ;D
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Thanks :) great pictures!
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Thank you @Ir for sharing these pictures with us!
I like the tiles, they are nice to watch :)
There is a christmas tree in the city and the gardens are tree farms where you can buy fir trees .... sounds a lot like Christmas to me :D
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Great pictures @lr !!! Did you get any fir trees from the fir stands? ;)
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A game of WE3, after the final scoring (due to a weird error, I cannot upload the picture on Carcassonne Central).
https://ibb.co/k0jSRwL
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Hello, I took some photos comparing all the winter versions, from left to right :
- winter digital edition (C1) artwork by Doris Matthau
- winter 2012 (C2) artwork by Anne Patzke
- winter 2020 (C2) artwork by Anne Patzke and Marcel Grober
- winter 2022 (C3) artwork by Marcel Grober
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I repeat what I already wrote on Discord: thank you very much for these pictures @Linksux , they are wonderful!! :D
the good thing here is I can give merits : +1 merit from me
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Last iteration of the Winter Edition is very good and I think I'll buy it online (if I'll manage to understand how to recognize it so I don't buy again the version I already own) but that first edition... WOW
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Is there actually any news on this re-release of the winter edition? Do we know if they're eventually going to roll out globally? Really hoping to get a copy here in Australia, as postage is just ridiculous these days, but not sure how likely it is and my "googling" isn't resulting in much.
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Currently, not much to report. HiG shared that "some partners" are doing this print, which leaves with no real info. It has been released in French, Bulgarian and Romanian so far, and I would expect more publishers to pick it up, but who knows.
From HiG themselves they basically said they are waiting for the stock of the 2020 WE to sell out first, before looking at releasing this one.
As Asmodee is the distributer in France, I believe they have also planned this French release in Canada. That could be a good sign, as good sales might help convince them to do the release in more countries, and push ZMG to actually make the English version
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This is an awesome comparison, thanks @Linksux - shows the artwork evolution like I haven't seen before. Very cool.
As an Aussie living in the US @chris6507 I can report that there is no sign of a WE 3.0 release in either country yet. I am checking very often ;) but I will continue to wait....
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Can confirm that the French version is being released in Canada within the next few months. I’ve already got a preorder in. We’re just waiting for the container to arrive from Europe.
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Very nice comparision, thank you @Linksux for the photos :(y) +1
If only 2022 version had as many buildings in the cities as one from 2012...
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oh wait,it is actually very interesting, those are 2 different rivers !
the base game is identical (except of course for abbots), but river has different configurations (monastery on end tile and split field on source)
Guess i'll have to buy new one, shame .... :p
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Can confirm that the French version is being released in Canada within the next few months. I’ve already got a preorder in. We’re just waiting for the container to arrive from Europe.
Hi Scott. Where'd you place your pre-order? I have ordered from Boardgamebliss in the past because shipping to WI was still reasonable, but I didn't see it there yet.
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Great pictures, @Linksux !!!
+1 merit from me for this awesome comparison.
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Hi Scott. Where'd you place your pre-order? I have ordered from Boardgamebliss in the past because shipping to WI was still reasonable, but I didn't see it there yet.
https://www.lillojeux.ca/boutique/jeux-de-societe/carcassonne-hiver/ (https://www.lillojeux.ca/boutique/jeux-de-societe/carcassonne-hiver/)
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And we have also announced Bulgarian version.
Thanks to report by @adahy
https://bigbag.bg/carcassonne-winter-edition (https://bigbag.bg/carcassonne-winter-edition)
Is there anyone who can ship this game with some other Bulgarian Carcassonne games to the Netiherlands or Belgium.
I tried with an online shop in Bulgaria and they emailed me back that it was possible to ship, but i never heard anything about it?
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And we have also announced Bulgarian version.
Thanks to report by @adahy
https://bigbag.bg/carcassonne-winter-edition (https://bigbag.bg/carcassonne-winter-edition)
Is there anyone who can ship this game with some other Bulgarian Carcassonne games to the Netiherlands or Belgium.
I tried with an online shop in Bulgaria and they emailed me back that it was possible to ship, but i never heard anything about it?
As I know, @adahy was ordering it. And he was also referring as first, that Bulgarian Publisher will release it also.
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Hello, I have just taken a look to Linksux pictures and I have just realized that there are many differences between Muller Winter Edition 2020 and the new 2022 Edition. I would like to get both versions, but how can I recognize them from the box?
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Hello, I have just taken a look to Linksux pictures and I have just realized that there are many differences between Muller Winter Edition 2020 and the new 2022 Edition. I would like to get both versions, but how can I recognize them from the box?
The boxes are very very different.
Muller is in the style of a c2 box 22 edition is in the style of a c3 box.
I don't have pictures at hand sorry.
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Hello, I have just taken a look to Linksux pictures and I have just realized that there are many differences between Muller Winter Edition 2020 and the new 2022 Edition. I would like to get both versions, but how can I recognize them from the box?
We can use best source for Carcassonne related stuff - Wikicarpedia.com
2022: https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/File:WE3_ZMG_FR.jpg
2020: https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/File:Box_WE2020_HiG.png
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Thank you for your replies. Although I can't get access to the links you posted, I have checked WikiCarpedia and I found the differences you both wrote about. But I was specifically referring to the Hans Im Gluck versions. Does the 2020 Muller edition is in someway different from the 2022 one?
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HiG have not yet released the latest Winter Edition in German. From our understanding, there is still stock from the 2020 edition, so no new one will be made for now.
The 2022 edition has been released in French, Bulgarian and Romanian for now, with more likely to follow.
For comparison:
2020 HiG:
(https://wikicarpedia.com/images/0/03/Box_WE2020_HiG.png)
2022 ZMG (French):
(https://wikicarpedia.com/images/e/e1/WE3_ZMG_FR.jpg)
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HIG's 2022 Winter Edition is not on sale yet, but I assume it will be identical to the release of Z-Man Games' Winter Edition.
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HIG's 2022 Winter Edition is not on sale yet, but I assume it will be identical to the release of Z-Man Games' Winter Edition.
Who knows! Maybe some things will be fixed, maybe there will be even more rounder corners, maybe when it will be release at spring, it will have less snow that French edition. Or it will have extra expansion The Flu (as WE3 of The Pest) :D
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I like that idea! The Flu!
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Is there a plan to update the W-CAR rules with The River rules? At least for the 2020 version (old artwork)?
I am buying the game again just because of The River expansion (2020), but have doubts about the back of the tiles consistency. I will play the base + corn circles + the gingerbread man + the river. All I have at the moment are consistent (Anne Patzke), but how will the river integrate (Anne Patzke and Marcel Grober)? I can keep the 2020 tiles (Anne Patzke and Marcel Grober), but again the old ones (Corn Circles + The Gingerbread Man) can they be included without differences?
Don't remind me about the new shiny design (2022). I am too old to start buying everything again. I love the nutted colors and the old design of this beautiful game. Also, I'm a purist myself. No new design, Thank you!
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The backs of the tiles should match, within reason of print runs of course.
In terms of the W-CAR, I suspect it won't be updated, as further development on rule clarifications and combinations moved to the Wikicarpedia.
The Winter River rules can be found here:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Winter_Edition_The_River