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Carc Central Community => General => Topic started by: corinthiens13 on March 28, 2021, 01:41:49 AM
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Here's a comparison between all kinds of standard meeples, with pictures (updated May 8, 2021).
Most meeples on the pictures are originals from Cundco, except the phantoms from Ebay, and some teachers with special colors that came from spielmaterial.
Some sets do not have a regular size, that's why they have a min-max range (see the travel edition for example, 1mm difference though the meeples came from the same box) :o
The phantoms from Ebay do not all have the same thickness (some are thinner), but strangely, every colors that are also available on Meeplesource have the same thickness. They do probably come from the same manufacturer, or even the core Ebay set originally comes from Meeplesource.
Also, original phantoms have very sharp edges, those from Ebay have more smooth rounded edges.
Sadly, there's no nature (light brown) phantom, if anyone knows where to get one? ???
Click on picture to make it bigger :yellow-meeple:
(https://am3pap002files.storage.live.com/y4m2OKizby0UGZJgRZRzZpHEAc7T6a1BJdMTOXPTd_yzXF4o8peniLJ-avqxFiRmSZAboz7baaNwgQM1Z-1UKY_3WxDD1C-cozE44YkPQeGWSSTjdFucu6ZbmfptocietpTFu3loRaGV26kRAJbkaI_TdHBBycIOVflbQqz_OBNB4KweigVPmqCyJNspC7XTM-z?width=5504&height=3096&cropmode=none)
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And here's a comparison including mini phantoms from Meeplesource :
(https://am3pap002files.storage.live.com/y4mFbX8wwERkAveBEG5YdfIm_AItBCFIZqo3TbYWXW8CkvXFhlXiOgvqGm0scLon5aX_o_-kaiEIZwSnc8pCWS9eWhamrlrobTi1S8KQAvx4Ppw3K_dwYajdKRgK-9J0Vym_jQhmhnmbaTNHMgKJBsFseMdKTFCjWiu8OEtp6hxhzXjY-586o_V4u1gQyM0rpbh?width=5504&height=3096&cropmode=none)
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Here are complementary comparisons, made by other forum members :yellow-meeple:
Mini meeples from Meeplesource compared to standard meeples:
Thanks to Wolnic. 12mm tall, 12mm wide, and 7mm thick.
(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5155.0;attach=14136;image)
(https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5155.0;attach=15185;image)
(https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5155.0;attach=15187;image)
Mini meeples from Meeplesource compared to travel Carcassonne:
Thanks Unclewill
(https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5155.0;attach=15198;image)
Meeplesource ‘Super Mega Meeple’, Cundco ‘Big Meeple’, Cundco standard meeple, Meeplesource mini meeple:
Thanks Unclewill. The MS Super Mega Meeple is 10x24x24mm
(https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5155.0;attach=15202;image)
The 10th anniversary edition meeples:
Another visual comparison just in case:
1) Wooden regular meeple
2) Teacher / Transparent meeple available on Cundco.de
3) Transparent meeple from the 10th Anniversary Edition
4) Phantom
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This thread is becoming a meeplepedia! ;D
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I woud just like to add to corithiens13's post above, what I added to the topic where the picture was first posted:
The differences between Phantom and 10th anniversary transparent meeples are purely stochastic and are not consistent, even within the same batch. So they are not to be considered different variations :red-meeple:.
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First post updated with new meeple types (travel edition, demo spiel) :yellow-meeple:
It's strange to see how the standard wooden meeples were always the exact same size from 2001 to 2021, but none of the mini meeples have the same size (C42, travel edition, demo spiel) :o
And if you think this comparison is useless... Well... Me too ;D
But it was fun to align all those meeples together, with no social distancing and without face mask ! :yellow-meeple:
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+1 merit for this continuous work!
The small differences in size between meeple sets is maddening!
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And if you think this comparison is useless... Well... Me too ;D
But it was fun to align all those meeples together, with no social distancing and without face mask ! :yellow-meeple:
On the contrary, I find this comparison perfectly useful and very refreshing, even though eventually little "geeky" to some (not me, I actually love it and so a merit for this job!) :D
We had today a discussion over a family game of Carcasonne für zwei boosted by Demo-Spiel and a point was raised that since there are no expansions in tiles of a proper size available, if could be at least possible to enhance this travel set by "phantoms". However, it seems that there are no translucent minimeeples available. Or are they?
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To enhance the game we use:
- Standard meeples from the basegame, used as big meeples from exp 2
- Fir tree and santa meeples, on the scoreboard, played as a the Saint Nicholas scoreboard
- I'm looking for any kind of small meeple to use as an abbot
- King and robber tokens, giving +3 (C42 only) or +5 (C42 with demo spiel) points for biggest road and biggest city
Thanks for the merit :yellow-meeple:
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Oh, and here's a set of mini phantoms:
https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMiniMeepleSampler (https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=AcrylicMiniMeepleSampler)
I'm ordering them right now! I might have to do the whole comparison again, including those minis :yellow-meeple:
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And meeplesource have regular mini meeples too - lots of colours ... but from images don't look as though they always match the standard colours.
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Well, I have no need for Meeplesource mini or standard wooden meeples, so I won't buy them only to make the comparison.
If anyone owns them, here could be the place to post a comparison picture :yellow-meeple:
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I got hold of some mini meeples from BG Extras, and based on the images used for them on the site, they're the ones from Meeplesource. I got a few colours, but here are three of them, side-by-side, with standard game meeples. Although I knew their dimensions (12mm tall, 12mm wide, and 7mm thick), they still seem smaller than I expected. And the blue is much closer to the original than the image on the site, where they look much lighter.
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Thanks for posting this Wolnic :yellow-meeple:
I updated the second post to quote yours (so that every comparisons may appear at the beginning of the topic)
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I also got the orange, purple and black mini-meeples as part of the order, to give me six sets. They only had 2 yellow available, otherwise I'd have probably got the standard five colours.
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Added a comparison including mini phantoms from Meeplesource to the 1st post.
They're smaller than any other meeples, but great to play wit c42, demo version or travel edition :yellow-meeple:
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Thanks corinthiens13 and all the contributors to this thread, it's really useful. It is great to see all the different variations lined up on parade.
I got hold of some mini meeples from BG Extras, and based on the images used for them on the site, they're the ones from Meeplesource. I got a few colours, but here are three of them, side-by-side, with standard game meeples. Although I knew their dimensions (12mm tall, 12mm wide, and 7mm thick), they still seem smaller than I expected. And the blue is much closer to the original than the image on the site, where they look much lighter.
Hi Wolnic or anyone else who can answer.
I am thinking about getting some Meeplesource orange and purple mini meeples (from BGExtras) to add to Travel Carcassonne. Have you found them a good mix when played together?
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Sorry, probably can't help.
I usually only have 2-player games, and we always use blue and red. I don't have regular orange/purple meeples so can't comment on how compatible they are. I only got the minis in that colour as yellow wasn't available at the time. I can upload a picture with all the colours when it's not dark outside ...
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I am thinking about getting some Meeplesource orange and purple mini meeples (from BGExtras) to add to Travel Carcassonne. Have you found them a good mix when played together?
According to the measurements, travel carcassonne meeples are about 10x13x13 mm, and meeplesource ones are 7x12x12.
While they're not so different in height and width, the 3 mm difference in thickness will certainly be easily noticeable (10mm is the same as standard basegame wooden meeples, 7mm is even thiner than phantoms)
So the mixability depends on how much you like / dislike having both fat and thin meeples in the game :yellow-meeple:
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Thanks for the replies. Sorry, I should've been a bit clearer in the direction of my question.
The 3mm difference in depth would mark them out as separate types for sure, with presumably jokes about the girth of their respective players.
From Wolnic's photo, the Meeplesource mini meeples look to me like they are proportionately slimmer in the arm and the leg than the Travel Carcassonne meeples in corinthien13's photo which also have big heads. It could just be angle of photos/ shadows etc.
I was just wondering if there is a side-by-side difference in reality.
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Oh, I understand now :yellow-meeple:
Wolnic doesn't seem to own travel Carcassonne based on his profile, so he might not be able to post a side by side picture of both meeples, and I do not own the Meeplesource ones, so I can't either :-\
Maybe someone can help?
And anyway, a picture of all the meeplesource colors Wolnic owns might still be helpful :yellow-meeple:
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Correct. I don't have any other smaller meeples for comparison photos. I got them since I wanted to created a smaller sized (about 75% of standard) tile set (to reduce printing and mounting). I do have a shrink-wrapped Carc for 2, but not currently willing to open it up.
Attached are images of all the MS minis with a standard game meeple, and another showing the thickness - my standard blue meeple is not very well cut ...
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Thanks wolnic, I updated the 2nd post to include those new pictures :yellow-meeple:
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Thanks from me too. I have ordered some MS minis from BGExtra so I can answer my own question and will share the knowledge.
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These photos compare RGG Travel Carcassonne 2007 (TC) mini meeples (standard colours) next to Meeplesource (MS) mini meeples (orange and purple).
The MS are noticeable shallower in depth as already discussed.
Face on, the MS meeples are noticeably smaller and slimmer in build than the TC red, yellow, green, and black. The TC blue are inconsistent with the other TC colours and fall in between.
To my eye, the difference between the two is proportionally as clear as a standard 16mm meeple to 19mm big meeple. If I could, I would have all sets of MS minis as they truly are mini, but am I going to replace the five standard colour sets for consistency? No. Probably not.
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This photo shows (left to right) 10x24x24mm Meeplesource ‘Super Mega Meeple’, Cundco ‘Big Meeple’, Cundco standard meeple, Meeplesource mini meeple for comparison.
I wanted to experiment with a truly big meeple (to clearly differentiate from Mayors). The face area comparison of 19mm big meeple to 16mm standard meeple is about 1.4 but these pieces give a proportion of 2.25:1 which reflects the 2:1 strength of the pieces better too.
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Thanks unclewill, I updated the second post to include those comparisons :yellow-meeple: