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Title: Big Box 2017
Post by: Vasek on June 26, 2017, 02:02:59 PM
Here is the link to the new Big Box
http://www.mindok.cz/cz/hry/carcassonne-1/8595558302918-carcassonne--big-box--2017--314
Cheers!
Vasek
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: SRBO on June 26, 2017, 02:27:12 PM
Nice find! so its the same as BB4, shame though, expected more of this :D
I started carcassonne V1 with the same box.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Yashin-n on June 26, 2017, 02:29:06 PM
https://www.exlibris.ch/de/hobby-spiele-brettspiele/puzzles/carcassonne-big-box-2017-spiel/id/4001504482794 with price apr. 51 Euros. From September 2017.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Whaleyland on June 26, 2017, 03:35:32 PM
So it looks like we're getting (assuming this is also the German and US components) Inns & Cathedrals, Traders & Builders, and the 7 Carcassonne minis + The River and The Abbot = 11 expansions, as advertised. Meh. I do like the new art for the mini boxes, though. Those look kind of interesting.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: GinCarc on June 26, 2017, 10:32:35 PM
Base Game + 11 Expansions @ 51 Euro is actually not bad at all and its a nice setup for people new to CARC, will definitely be advising alot of my friends to get the big box, i just hope that the minis will be made availible seperately in September as well so that I am not forced to buy bigbox just to get my hands on them..... not very patient. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Mikeagan on June 27, 2017, 01:42:38 AM
I'm hoping that it gets released in the USA this year. This would be perfect for me. My mom wants Inns & Cathedrals and Traders & Builders. I want the 7 Minis. My friend is thinking about getting the Base game.

I would get the Big box for myself and give my current copies of I&C and T&B to my mom. She would not mind having second hand from me. I keep everything in excellent condition.

As for the Base, I could sell it used to my friend or keep it as a second Base for longer games.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: BigBoss on June 27, 2017, 06:20:46 AM
Thanks for this Infos about the new BigBox!  :(y)

Also interesting is a new carcassonne called: Carcassonne für 2 "Carcassonne for two" (two players, tin box, travel edition) 
https://www.bonifatius-buchhandlung.de/produkt-1996/carcassonne_fuer_2_spiel/9837953 (https://www.bonifatius-buchhandlung.de/produkt-1996/carcassonne_fuer_2_spiel/9837953)
:neutral-meeple:

PS:
Content: 48 tiles, 12 Meeple, 1 rule
ISBN/EAN: 4001504514204
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: totor66 on June 27, 2017, 06:34:04 AM
Uhm, a bit sad about this announcement. was hoping more standalone expansions in thie big box V2, the Minis are by far what I was wanting the least.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: danisthirty on June 27, 2017, 09:52:41 AM
Thanks for the link Vasek. Not unsurprising to see what's been included, but still seems like a good value set and hopefully one that will help many new players discover the game for the first time.

Interested to know more about the "Carcassonne for 2" as well. Sounds like maybe an extended version of the Carc 2 demo version that was released previously (albeit in a limited way).
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Mikeagan on June 27, 2017, 10:06:04 AM
I agree that it is not what I was hoping for, but as least I can make this work for me. I've always tried to organize all my expansions into the main box, but am running out of room. So a big box will be nice for me in that respect also. Hopefully the big box comes with a bigger bag for tiles.
I have everything in tuck boxes. Even made score cube tuck boxes for each color player pieces (0[lid],50,100,150,200,250).
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Halfling on June 27, 2017, 10:35:47 AM
Marvellous, I can start buying the other Carc II expansions in readiness.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: ozgurceylan on June 27, 2017, 04:39:34 PM
So it looks like we're getting (assuming this is also the German and US components) Inns & Cathedrals, Traders & Builders, and the 7 Carcassonne minis + The River and The Abbot = 11 expansions, as advertised. Meh. I do like the new art for the mini boxes, though. Those look kind of interesting.

What is the 7th mini (with a feather watermark on it)?
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Khonnor on June 27, 2017, 04:47:21 PM
So it looks like we're getting (assuming this is also the German and US components) Inns & Cathedrals, Traders & Builders, and the 7 Carcassonne minis + The River and The Abbot = 11 expansions, as advertised. Meh. I do like the new art for the mini boxes, though. Those look kind of interesting.

What is the 7th mini (with a feather watermark on it)?

Corn Circles II
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on June 28, 2017, 12:04:43 AM
Thanks for the link Vasek. Not unsurprising to see what's been included, but still seems like a good value set and hopefully one that will help many new players discover the game for the first time.

Interested to know more about the "Carcassonne for 2" as well. Sounds like maybe an extended version of the Carc 2 demo version that was released previously (albeit in a limited way).

The box dimensions are almost the same as the big box. But there are only 48 tiles....perhaps the tiles are enormous!
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: toastytoast on July 12, 2017, 01:03:13 AM
It's a shame it looks like they still don't include a cloth bag when it includes Traders & Builders!

I'm at the point where despite being in the old edition camp, I *may* buy into the new, though only when they create a Big Box with more new expansions (such as Under the Big Top). That way I can justify it to my Wife  ;D
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on July 12, 2017, 05:27:50 AM
Thankfully a replacement cloth bag arrived today  ;D (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1205.msg51224#msg51224)
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: oosie on July 13, 2017, 01:50:33 PM
Looks like 999 Games here in Holland announced it as well:

https://www.999games.nl/carcassonne-big-box-3.html
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Jesusgcas on July 26, 2017, 09:24:06 AM
Usually big boxes are not available on cundco, am I right?
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on July 26, 2017, 10:10:31 AM
They used to be when in stock...theyve been out of stock forever
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Jesusgcas on July 26, 2017, 11:45:38 AM
Ok thank you
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on July 26, 2017, 11:50:25 AM
If i read it correctly, the price is in CHF, so it will be around £40, or around €45 for the box. I'd say a very good price for the game with 11 expansions!
I'm gonna have to keep it on my watchlist im afraid...
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: flipshot on July 26, 2017, 02:23:50 PM
https://www.zmangames.com/en/news/2017/7/26/announcing-carcassonne-big-box-2017/
Z-Man Games announcing Carcassonne Big Box.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Carcatronn on July 26, 2017, 10:57:36 PM
Grrrrr just when I thought my collection was COMPLETE $$$
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on July 27, 2017, 12:39:03 AM
I won't deny it, gonna go buy it. But this big box is a pure rip off.

11 "expansions" including The River and The Abbot as such. Aside from two large expansions the rest are mini expansions.
  The price here in Sweden will be as much or more as buying everything separate.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Mikeagan on July 27, 2017, 01:18:08 AM
This is exciting news. Hopefully this means that it will be released by Christmas in the USA. Now the only main expansions with no ZMAN announcement are 6,8, and 9 as 7 is not set to be reprinted as of now.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on July 27, 2017, 02:04:52 AM
I won't deny it, gonna go buy it. But this big box is a pure rip off.

11 "expansions" including The River and The Abbot as such. Aside from two large expansions the rest are mini expansions.
  The price here in Sweden will be as much or more as buying everything separate.

Really? I thought the price was gonna be alright, or will the price in Sweden be much higher? Normally the base game (€20), and 2 big expansions (€13 each) is about as much as the big box already, so if the price shown will be true, it will be a good price i recon. I don't know the prices in Sweden of course, but it would surprise me if everything together would be cheaper to buy separately.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on July 27, 2017, 02:35:25 AM
20 Euro Base game incl River and Abbot
10 Euro each big expansion
25 Euro Minis complete
Totaling 55 Euro

Big box cost 65-85 Euro.

These prices are based on Big Box 3 and following releases.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on July 27, 2017, 03:55:10 AM
Hang on, the Big Box contains 2 large expansions:

20 + 10 + 10 + 25  = 65 Euros.

Good luck finding the minis for 25Euros - the new edition are not in print and only announced in the Big Box.
Given this is a reprint of BigBox 4 I think that's a better comparison.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on July 27, 2017, 04:20:22 AM
Hang on, the Big Box contains 2 large expansions:

20 + 10 + 10 + 25  = 65 Euros.

Good luck finding the minis for 25Euros - the new edition are not in print and only announced in the Big Box.
Given this is a reprint of BigBox 4 I think that's a better comparison.

Ah, forgot to count it twice.

As mentioned in another thread, I can acquire 3000 complete sets of minis for roughly 25 Euro each, but they are not in English.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Rosco on July 27, 2017, 05:55:51 AM
A mega game with just the minis and no base game?? That would be mentally exhausting I think. 

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Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Jesusgcas on July 27, 2017, 08:03:49 AM
20 Euro Base game incl River and Abbot
10 Euro each big expansion
25 Euro Minis complete
Totaling 55 Euro

Big box cost 65-85 Euro.

These prices are based on Big Box 3 and following releases.

I think you are using the numbers a little bit to prove your point. To be honest I don't like the composition of this new big box but you can't deny it's cheaper.

You set a price of 20€ for the base game. Pretty cheap considering you are in Sweden. Here in Spain is around 23-25 (cundco 23+ shipping)

You can find the big expansions at 10. Again a great deal here I cannot find any of them under 15 (on cundco the cheapest is at 13+shipping)

With the small ones you are right starting selling price was 25. But you can't buy them any other way than in the new big box or paying 35+ for the old art ones.

On the other hand it is easy to find big boxes on the 45-50€ range.

The way I see it is:
23+15+15+25=78
Against 50 for the big box



Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on July 27, 2017, 08:31:18 AM
20 Euro Base game incl River and Abbot
10 Euro each big expansion
25 Euro Minis complete
Totaling 55 Euro

Big box cost 65-85 Euro.

These prices are based on Big Box 3 and following releases.

I think you are using the numbers a little bit to prove your point. To be honest I don't like the composition of this new big box but you can't deny it's cheaper.

You set a price of 20€ for the base game. Pretty cheap considering you are in Sweden. Here in Spain is around 23-25 (cundco 23+ shipping)

You can find the big expansions at 10. Again a great deal here I cannot find any of them under 15 (on cundco the cheapest is at 13+shipping)

With the small ones you are right starting selling price was 25. But you can't buy them any other way than in the new big box or paying 35+ for the old art ones.

On the other hand it is easy to find big boxes on the 45-50€ range.

The way I see it is:
23+15+15+25=78
Against 50 for the big box

All numbers are actual numbers, ie today's prices. Stands to reason that a big box should be cheaper than the sum by themselves, but it's not. The minis are at 25 Euro with free shipping.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Jesusgcas on July 27, 2017, 08:53:41 AM
20 Euro Base game incl River and Abbot
10 Euro each big expansion
25 Euro Minis complete
Totaling 55 Euro

Big box cost 65-85 Euro.

These prices are based on Big Box 3 and following releases.

I think you are using the numbers a little bit to prove your point. To be honest I don't like the composition of this new big box but you can't deny it's cheaper.

You set a price of 20€ for the base game. Pretty cheap considering you are in Sweden. Here in Spain is around 23-25 (cundco 23+ shipping)

You can find the big expansions at 10. Again a great deal here I cannot find any of them under 15 (on cundco the cheapest is at 13+shipping)

With the small ones you are right starting selling price was 25. But you can't buy them any other way than in the new big box or paying 35+ for the old art ones.

On the other hand it is easy to find big boxes on the 45-50€ range.

The way I see it is:
23+15+15+25=78
Against 50 for the big box

All numbers are actual numbers, ie today's prices. Stands to reason that a big box should be cheaper than the sum by themselves, but it's not. The minis are at 25 Euro with free shipping.

It must be a problem with big boxes on your country.

Because I do not doubt you can get all the individual items that cheap but the difference with the big box price is so much higher than Europe's average.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on July 27, 2017, 08:54:48 AM
Paul the new edition Minis are not in print!
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: aenima on July 27, 2017, 11:33:01 AM
Paul the new edition Minis are not in print!

Only for now  or forever?
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Jéré on July 27, 2017, 11:47:04 AM
Paul the new edition Minis are not in print!

Only for now  or forever?

Forever... until further notice. :)
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Mikeagan on July 28, 2017, 06:33:16 PM
According to CoolStuffInc.com:

Carcassonne: Big Box 6 (2017)
Estimated USA Release Date: October 2017. Date subject to change.
Regular Price: $80.00
Pre-Order Price: $67.99

http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/245660

Current Prices Breakdown as of 7/29/2017 in the USA
Game Part/PriceRetailCoolStuffInc.comMiniatureMarket.com
Carcassonne$34.99$29.79$27.99
Inns & Cathedrals$17.99$15.29$14.39
Traders & Builders$17.99$15.29$14.39
Base + I&C + T&B$70.97$60.37$56.77
Big Box 6 (2017)$80.00$67.99NA
Extra Cost (6 Minis)$9.03$7.62NA

Both CoolStuffInc.com & MiniatureMarket.com have a $6.00 Ground Shipping & Handling in the USA for 48 States (NOT Hawaii & Alaska) for orders under $100.

MiniatureMarket.com states that Big Box 5 was $74.99 Retail and that their Sale Price was $59.99 and often competes with CoolStuffInc.com, so I would expect similar range for Big Box 6 once available for Pre-Order.

This places the extra cost for the Minis to be under $10 which is worth it to me.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Mikeagan on July 29, 2017, 10:19:26 PM
Also in the US, I can find an individual Mini for $25+ and the entire set of 6 for $110+ in the old art. Neither of these are good/reasonable buying options. As such, I have MOSTLY new art I would prefer the Minis to be new art anyways.

The only items I have in OLD art are German Cathedrals & The Labyrinth (I have Both the New & Old Art Tiles).
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: aenima on July 30, 2017, 12:48:28 AM
25 $ 1 mini? Are u serious?  110 all?  here in bruxelles I am sure I can find them at original prices
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Jesusgcas on July 30, 2017, 03:42:32 AM
25 $ 1 mini? Are u serious?  110 all?  here in bruxelles I am sure I can find them at original prices

In Spain is easy to find minis from 1 to 4 at 5€ but 5 and 6 are nowhere and you have to end up buying them online at abusive prices.

Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: aenima on July 30, 2017, 04:37:22 AM
nex time I'll go in shop I ask how many copies they have... maybe I can be an help for who is interested...
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Just a Bill on July 30, 2017, 07:59:28 PM
In Spain is easy to find minis from 1 to 4 at 5€ but 5 and 6 are nowhere and you have to end up buying them online at abusive prices.

So do you know anybody in Spain that would like to trade their minis 1 and 4 for my minis 5 and 6?
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Jesusgcas on August 01, 2017, 01:03:21 PM
In Spain is easy to find minis from 1 to 4 at 5€ but 5 and 6 are nowhere and you have to end up buying them online at abusive prices.

So do you know anybody in Spain that would like to trade their minis 1 and 4 for my minis 5 and 6?

I don't but there has to be somebody. I myself had to buy a sealed big box 4 just to get those minis. At least it was cheap at only 35€
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: flipshot on August 01, 2017, 02:38:32 PM
New Big Box available for preorder at Cool Stuff Inc.
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/245660
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on August 02, 2017, 01:26:21 AM
Interesting to see they've used the pictures of the Dutch Big Box on Coolstuff :P
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on August 04, 2017, 06:59:56 PM
Preordered Big Box 2017 at the local store. 65 Euro. Under the Big Top will also be available in a different local store for 13 Euro.

Now only thing missing is new edition of Count King Robber. That is still coming / has been released?
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on August 05, 2017, 06:42:45 AM
I noticed the big box 2017 has the 999 Games logo. They are in league with Z-man Games or a sub-company to them?
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: jungleboy on August 05, 2017, 06:44:18 AM
I noticed the big box 2017 has the 999 Games logo. They are in league with Z-man Games or a sub-company to them?

They're the Dutch Carcassonne publisher.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Halfling on August 05, 2017, 09:23:40 AM
Boardgameextras.com know that I want the big box......
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on August 05, 2017, 09:53:12 AM
Halfling, have they said anything about availability? Would be nice if they get it soon as well :)
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Halfling on August 05, 2017, 10:26:21 AM
Andrew hasn't got a price yet.....but he will!
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on August 06, 2017, 02:47:40 PM
Update on the Swedish front: The English version will be released on October here. That's a long wait, kinda eager to get my hands on it start punching out tiles.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Mikeagan on August 24, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
Zman has updated the status of Big Box 2017 to "At The Printer" from "In Development"
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: ARabidMeerkat on August 25, 2017, 12:49:58 AM
Did anyone else notice on the website that this game apparently only takes 35 minutes to complete?
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on August 25, 2017, 12:51:14 AM
That's because everything is optional.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on August 25, 2017, 12:57:14 AM
Did anyone else notice on the website that this game apparently only takes 35 minutes to complete?

That's nothing. One of the games played last year each turn took about 10-15 seconds.  >:D
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: danisthirty on August 25, 2017, 01:53:32 AM
Did anyone else notice on the website that this game apparently only takes 35 minutes to complete?

That's nothing. One of the games played last year each turn took about 10-15 seconds.  >:D

I'd say it's comparable. 172 landscape tiles played in 35 minutes = 12.2 seconds per tile. Doesn't include end game scoring. So it's definitely something.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on August 25, 2017, 02:05:01 AM
Dan.  :D

Silly me but I'm a little excited about this BB8. It'll be released three days after me' birthday.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on August 26, 2017, 03:31:04 AM
https://www.999games.nl/carcassonne-big-box-3.html
999Games have annouced on their Facebook that the dutch new Big Box will be in stores next week. It lines up with some german shops ive seen. Looks like it will be widely released in Netherlands and germany  around 4th of september
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on August 26, 2017, 09:28:27 AM
Havent been able to find any dutch (web)shops that have it for pre order yet. The only UK one i found is https://www.chaoscards.co.uk/board-games-c800/all-board-games-c550/z-man-games-carcassonne-big-box-2017-p151442
Price of about £70, which is quit expensive i think.
At bonifatius its much cheaper for the German version https://www.bonifatius-buchhandlung.de/produkt-1996/carcassonne_big_box_2017_spiel/9837949.
And the english version seems to come out about a month after the dutch/german version. And maybe more expensive...
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on August 26, 2017, 09:32:30 AM
Found a dutch webshop that have it advertised
https://www.spellenhuis.nl/carcassonne-big-box-3-bordspel
And price is in between the german and english one at €59,99
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on August 26, 2017, 09:39:29 AM
Nonsense..you need to shop around more.

Spieleoffensive has it for 40€
https://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Carcassonne-Big-Box-Grundspiel-11-Erweiterungen-und-vieles-mehr-1020766.html

You can also pre order carcassonne for 2 for 6€
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on August 26, 2017, 09:46:59 AM
You are absolutely right!
Now ive gotta decide if i care about what language is on the box....
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on August 26, 2017, 09:52:04 AM
Thankfully Carcassonne is Carcassonne in every language....except Russian...and Japanese....and Greek...and Hindi....
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: BigBoss on September 01, 2017, 04:03:34 AM
(https://cundco.de/media/image/ec/1b/f5/Carc_BigBox6_3D_Box_RGB_links_600x600.jpg)


The german BigBox is NOW officially Availlable!  :(y)  ;D

https://cundco.de/en/boardgames/a-c/209/carcassonne-big-box-2017?c=5 (https://cundco.de/en/boardgames/a-c/209/carcassonne-big-box-2017?c=5)

http://www.schmidtspiele-shop.de/carcassonne-big-box-2017 (http://www.schmidtspiele-shop.de/carcassonne-big-box-2017)


 :yellow-meeple: :neutral-meeple: :brown-meeple: :white-meeple: :orange-meeple: :pink-meeple: :violet-meeple: :gray-meeple: :red-meeple: :green-meeple: :blue-meeple: :black1-meeple:
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: aenima on September 01, 2017, 04:46:26 AM
DONE!  ;D
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Just a Bill on September 01, 2017, 06:25:43 AM
On the one hand, touting 11 expansions is kind of a stretch when it's really only the base game plus nine other separate products. Big Box 5, by comparison, did not count The River or the extra purple and pink follower sets as expansions; it used a more reasonable claim of "base game, 4 expansions, and much more." But BB6 wants to count even the Abbot separately, even though all indications are that it will always be a part of the Carc-II base game.

On the other hand, if their strategy was to count literally every "module" that you could optionally include or exclude as a game mechanic, then they should have put a big 12 on the box: they forgot to count Farming as optional.  >:D

Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: danisthirty on September 01, 2017, 07:03:34 AM
I think it's worth remembering that the base game consists of 72 tiles and nothing else. Just because the new art edition includes the Abbot doesn't mean that this shouldn't still be considered an expansion. The River comes with the new art edition box too but this is definitely an expansion in that it's an optional component. The Abbots are optional, despite the gardens having been integrated into the artwork of the original/ basic tiles.

I think the claim that it includes 11 expansions is legitimate, although it will inevitably cause some disapppointment as anyone who already owns the new artwork edition is guaranteed to own at least 2 of them...
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on September 01, 2017, 07:05:55 AM
And I have to wait until mid-October for this!  :'(
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: danisthirty on September 01, 2017, 07:08:52 AM
And I have to wait until mid-October for this!  :'(

I don't expect to see a Z-Man release of this with English rules this side of danisforty. I expect I'll just go for the German edition and play with the old artwork rules...
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on September 01, 2017, 07:19:11 AM
And I have to wait until mid-October for this!  :'(

I don't expect to see a Z-Man release of this with English rules this side of danisforty. I expect I'll just go for the German edition and play with the old artwork rules...

The English version may end up sooner in Europe. According to the local store, it's up to the stores themselves ordering one from the States. One of my local store ordered in 2 copies in case I couldn't wait for the Scandinavian release in October.

Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on September 02, 2017, 02:19:27 AM
Well said Dan, at the end of the day its very easy to pick holes in  anything the publisher decides to do.  You might not like the shade of blue they used on the box. While I thik it will make it easier to distinguish on my gaming shelf.  It's easy to moan about the new artwork. But new players having been buying the new artwork for 3 years now and they've enjoyed playing Carcassonne and those players would like more.  This box has expansions that have not been in print or readily available for a number of years now, so regardless of how many expansions are in the box, it's a worth while investment for players wanting them or wishing to start collecting.  The production quality will be immaculate as ever...and all the grass will be the same colour.

It's great to see HiG moving Carcassonne forward and appealing to new board gamers.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: aenima on September 02, 2017, 02:41:01 AM
there is one think that I really don't like... there is not an illustration for Crop Circle... and it's a pity because the illustrations for the new edition are superb. All of them!!!

YEEEEE my 500th post!  8)
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on September 02, 2017, 03:33:44 AM
there is one think that I really don't like... there is not an illustration for Crop Circle... and it's a pity because the illustrations for the new edition are superb. All of them!!!

YEEEEE my 500th post!  8)

Maybe there was in the original image but they had to crop to fit into the box... *Ducks Catapult missiles*
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Just a Bill on September 02, 2017, 06:26:52 AM
I wasn't saying the product was evil or shouldn't exist. Just making a tiny observation about "number creep" and then having a silly little farmer joke. Didn't mean to offend...
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on September 02, 2017, 12:54:33 PM
https://www.bgextras.co.uk/Preorder-Carcassonne-Big-Box-2017-i2472.htm
Boardgameextras has it for preorder now! They dont have any date on the website though, so its a guess atm for when it will actually come out here....
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on September 02, 2017, 01:22:22 PM
Lol. A race, who will post themselves holding a copy first.  :@
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on September 02, 2017, 11:12:56 PM
I've seen a copy in a boardgame shop in Florence....I can't fi it into the hand luggage...
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: jungleboy on September 03, 2017, 02:30:53 AM
I've seen a copy in a boardgame shop in Florence....I can't fi it into the hand luggage...

Doesn't stop you taking a photo of you with it and pretending you bought it.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on September 03, 2017, 02:48:57 AM
I've seen a copy in a boardgame shop in Florence....I can't fi it into the hand luggage...

Doesn't stop you taking a photo of you with it and pretending you bought it.

That would be cheating! Still, photo would've been nice. Forum needs more faces.  O0
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on September 03, 2017, 06:38:16 AM
Im in holland for the weekend, and had to casually walk in a local game store. They had it!
Couldnt resist, so ive bought the dutch version! Im a happy bunny!
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: aenima on September 03, 2017, 06:42:09 AM
uaaaa!!!! open it open it!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: aenima on September 03, 2017, 06:51:02 AM
No! I change my mind! I don't wont to see!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on September 03, 2017, 06:51:50 AM
Now we're still in town, so ill have to wait untill we get home hehe
But i just couldnt resist. It was more expensive than ive seen them online, but with postage and all i was able to convince my girlfriend that i could buy it hahaha
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on September 03, 2017, 06:52:26 AM
No! I change my mind! I don't wont to see!!!  ;D
Wanna keep the excitement for when you get it huh?  ;)
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: aenima on September 03, 2017, 06:53:36 AM
how much? I live in bruxelles, so here there will be avaible the 999game
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on September 03, 2017, 07:02:13 AM
That buy doesn't count. I don't see you holding it. >:D
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on September 03, 2017, 07:32:38 AM
I actually took thia photo last night. But it was blurry due to the low light: (http://tehill.net/carcassonne/postman/20170902_205525-480x853.jpg)

So went back today:

(http://tehill.net/carcassonne/postman/20170903_114806-320x180.jpg)
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on September 03, 2017, 07:47:51 AM
Here you go!
Bought it for €58, around the same as what i saw everywhere online for the Dutch version. Could get it cheaper i guess, but didnt want to wait
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on September 03, 2017, 08:45:44 AM
That's more like it!

Great photos guys. Keep them coming!

  Honestly, really cheers the forum up and makes us more connected.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: ARabidMeerkat on September 03, 2017, 09:39:25 AM

So went back today:

(http://tehill.net/carcassonne/postman/20170903_114806-320x180.jpg)

You only see that face for three reasons:

1. A child gets an amazing present.
2. A woman gets a present or 'rare' bunch of flowers.
3. A man gets a new toy, such as some power tool or board game!
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on September 03, 2017, 10:03:53 AM

So went back today:

You only see that face for three reasons:

1. A child gets an amazing present.
2. A woman gets a present or 'rare' bunch of flowers.
3. A man gets a new toy, such as some power tool or board game!

Carcassonne, sponsored by the flower market.  :@
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Mikeagan on September 03, 2017, 09:42:24 PM
This is an update to a previous post:

According to CoolStuffInc.com:

Carcassonne: Big Box 6 (2017)
Estimated USA Release Date: October 2017. Date subject to change.

Available for pre-order now at:
https://www.miniaturemarket.com/zmgzm7856.html
Listed for pre-order, but not actually available at:
http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/245660

Current Prices Breakdown as of 7/29/2017 in the USA
Game Part/PriceRetailCoolStuffInc.comMiniatureMarket.com
Carcassonne$34.99$29.79$27.99
Inns & Cathedrals$17.99$15.29$14.39
Traders & Builders$17.99$15.29$14.39
Base + I&C + T&B$70.97$60.37$56.77
Big Box 6 (2017)$80.00$67.99$63.99
Extra Cost (6 Minis)$9.03$7.62$7.22

Both CoolStuffInc.com & MiniatureMarket.com have a $6.00 Ground Shipping & Handling in the USA for 48 States (NOT Hawaii & Alaska) for orders under $100.

This places the extra cost for the Minis to be under $10 which is worth it to me.

Also, the Tower is available for pre-order $15.99 on MiniatureMarket.com (Regular 19.99). I will be ordering both of these together later this month.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on September 08, 2017, 09:57:14 AM
Unfortunately, I didn't bring it back with me - no way it would fit in the suitcase.  Plus Spiele Offensive is much cheaper....if I don't make it to Essen this year  :'(
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: aenima on September 08, 2017, 11:50:33 AM
http://www.giochiuniti.it/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&view=productdetails&virtuemart_product_id=2248&virtuemart_category_id=10&lang=it

The italian version... I pay less buying it from cundco adding the expedition cost!  :o

They have changed  The name of expansin mini 1. The classic edition name was "le ali" (wings). Now  it is "le macchine volanti" (Flying machines)
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: BigBoss on September 26, 2017, 11:13:02 AM
thanks to maik63de (carcF) & Mr. Geilenkeuser (HiG) the german rules are now availlable on CarcF.

https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=311&t=3830 (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=311&t=3830)

 8)
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on September 26, 2017, 12:21:09 PM
thanks to maik63de (carcF) & Mr. Geilenkeuser (HiG) the german rules are now availlable on CarcF.

https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=311&t=3830 (https://www.carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=311&t=3830)

 8)

Downloaded to my phone and jumped straight to the tile sheets. :)
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on September 26, 2017, 12:30:35 PM
We had our first play with it today! Everything as expected, but we did notice that the watermark is easier to miss when sorting out the tiles.
That will be some getting used to.
I like that in the rules (at least the dutch ones), theyve listed the (expected) time added to the game with every expansion
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Just a Bill on September 26, 2017, 01:24:25 PM
Downloaded to my phone and jumped straight to the tile sheets. :)

This is interesting:

(https://s20.postimg.cc/4jj02erl9/decorative_feature_legend.png)

Translation:

Many tiles have a small illustration. The letters in brackets show you which ones are on the tiles. They stand for:

G | garden
W | highwayman
B | farmhouse
S | pigsty
K | cow shed
E | donkey stable
T | water tower


The fact that they made a point to call all of these out (both here and in the base game tile list (http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/fileadmin/data_archive/Downloads/CarcBasis_II_D_Plaettchenliste.pdf) on the HiG website) adds fuel to this feeling I've had that they are planning to eventually make these illustrations relevant for gameplay. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Market of Leipzig tiles are going to have some kind of tie-in with printed farmhouses, yes?
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on September 30, 2017, 06:59:16 AM
Interesting they call out the Pig/Donkey/Cow sheds separately too.  The buildings look awfully similar to each other!
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: flipshot on October 13, 2017, 06:34:41 AM
https://www.zmangames.com/en/upcoming/
Z-Man Games now lists Big Box 6 as "Shipping Now". Also the reprint of Inns & Cathedrals is "shipping now".  A few people have been looking for Expansion 1, and now it's back in stock.

The rules for Big Box 6 are up as well.
https://images-cdn.zmangames.com/us-east-1/filer_public/a3/a8/a3a8701b-dc6e-4e1d-9e26-277d45eb93c8/carcbb6_rule_eng_final.pdf
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Halfling on October 14, 2017, 05:08:44 AM
Ordered mine from Boardgameextras. 
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on October 15, 2017, 07:31:13 AM
https://www.zmangames.com/en/upcoming/
Z-Man Games now lists Big Box 6 as "Shipping Now". Also the reprint of Inns & Cathedrals is "shipping now".  A few people have been looking for Expansion 1, and now it's back in stock.

The rules for Big Box 6 are up as well.
https://images-cdn.zmangames.com/us-east-1/filer_public/a3/a8/a3a8701b-dc6e-4e1d-9e26-277d45eb93c8/carcbb6_rule_eng_final.pdf

Thanks flipshot.  At least in the Z-man rules Farmers are labelled as an Expansion.  It also says: "In your second game, you should add the farmers."  and "After your first game, we recommend playing with farmers."  I wonder how that compares to the German edition.

I'm not sure I've got the energy to look for any subtle rule or tile changes either!

I have to say looking at the tile distribution pages, Anne Patzke has made some wonderful tiles.  I particularly like the Ferries.

Also it says: "D One of these is the starting tile (with a dark back), identified with a S".  Does the Start tile have an 'S' on it?
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on October 15, 2017, 07:42:14 AM
The dutch version is the same with the farmer suggestions.
And the mentioning of the starting tile, but no S to be found on it.
And i didnt find any rule changes in the dutch rule book.
I do like that theyve added the expected extra time the expansions take (in both dutch and english versions). Not sure how accurate they are, as they state that the abbots take 0extra minutes in a game....


Edit; i found something i havent seen before. The rfrr tile with an inn from I&C is stated as having the inn for both the left and right road, whereas in the old edition it is stated to only be for the road on the right. I dont know if this was the same in the standalone expansion in the new artwork, but it stood out to me
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Paul on October 15, 2017, 08:14:51 AM
The S could be referred to the S on the tile count sheet in the rules.

The base games I have has this S on the tile if I remember correctly, in the tile count sheet.

Update: Yes. D at the start of that sentence is referring to the tile D where you can see the S. Basically the same as the old art rules.
  Question is, did they put an actual S on the tile this time. I hope not!
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: supertopix on March 30, 2018, 01:12:26 AM
Hi, I own almost every single stuff of Carc1.

I also bought exp 10, the first 2.0 I own.

Now I’m thinking: should I buy Carc 2.0 + exp1 and exp2 - we play those a lot with Carc1 - or the big box 2017 (I don’t give a s..t about the smallest 6 expansions)?



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Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on March 30, 2018, 01:21:52 AM
There's little other advantage of the new BB. But I think they add a nice twist to the base game.  I think price is going to be your driving factor.  Also BB gives you a great big box to put all your 2.0 tiles in!
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Halfling on March 30, 2018, 10:20:05 AM
Selling the mini expansions on eBay will cover the cost of the big box.
Title: Big Box 2017
Post by: supertopix on March 30, 2018, 12:42:03 PM
Selling the mini expansions on eBay will cover the cost of the big box.
Really? The old art expansions?


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Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Sinscerly on March 31, 2018, 03:07:34 AM
Selling the mini expansions on eBay will cover the cost of the big box.
Really? The old art expansions?


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Yeah, depends on wich one. Do a search on ebay and calculate ;) If I sell something I do it under market cap, but some people have to crazy prices :(
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: supertopix on April 10, 2018, 02:22:42 AM
Selling the mini expansions on eBay will cover the cost of the big box.
Really? The old art expansions?


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Yeah, depends on wich one. Do a search on ebay and calculate ;) If I sell something I do it under market cap, but some people have to crazy prices :(
I sold the six old mini expansions, and bought the Big Box 2017.
So, now, I’m in with 2.0 art emoji code56]; I don’t think to buy every single expansion, but only another couple of them.


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Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Sinscerly on April 10, 2018, 06:32:48 AM
Selling the mini expansions on eBay will cover the cost of the big box.
Really? The old art expansions?


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Yeah, depends on wich one. Do a search on ebay and calculate ;) If I sell something I do it under market cap, but some people have to crazy prices :(
I sold the six old mini expansions, and bought the Big Box 2017.
So, now, I’m in with 2.0 art emoji code56]; I don’t think to buy every single expansion, but only another couple of them.


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Just Catch th'm all O0
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on April 10, 2018, 09:40:04 AM

So, now, I’m in with 2.0 art emoji code56]; I don’t think to buy every single expansion, but only another couple of them.

And thats how it begins.... Soon you'll have all the expansions ..... ;)
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on April 10, 2018, 09:43:06 AM
...and the spinoffs....and the accessories.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Willem on April 10, 2018, 09:44:47 AM
Don't get me started....
But at least eventually you get to join the Uber-Completionist-Club here on the forum!

one of us..........
one of us..........
one of us..........
one of us..........
one of us..........
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Mr Meeple on April 10, 2018, 02:13:58 PM
Haha, you are right - this is how it starts. Even if I still don't like the new design I couldn't resist to buy the Bigbox when it was below 30€ around Xmas - and I treated it as a present for myself  ;) Since then somehow and mysteriously other main expansions in the new design have popped in my flat  :P
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: supertopix on April 10, 2018, 03:11:49 PM

So, now, I’m in with 2.0 art emoji code56]; I don’t think to buy every single expansion, but only another couple of them.

And thats how it begins.... Soon you'll have all the expansions ..... ;)
I already own almost every single 1st edition stuff...


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Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on April 10, 2018, 03:49:23 PM
A wise man once said: what do you do once you've collected everythin?......start collecting a second set.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: danisthirty on April 10, 2018, 03:52:55 PM
A wise man once said: what do you do once you've collected everythin?......start collecting a second set.

Are you sure that was a wise man and not just a very rich man?
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Decar on April 10, 2018, 03:53:49 PM
It was neither tbh.... it was Rosco
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: Halfling on April 11, 2018, 02:20:08 AM
I didn't know he was a philosopher.
Title: Re: Big Box 2017
Post by: asp204 on April 22, 2018, 04:09:54 AM
It would have been really nice if they included the River 2 in the new 2017 Carcassonne Big Box. I feel that it gives more variation to the game than River 1, and it also has a pigsty tile that is excellent in getting extra farm points. :)