Quote from: Carcassonne93 on October 24, 2021, 02:41:56 PM"Negative scorings should not be considered" including the ransom for a prisoner? For City of Carcassonne.Nothing about this?
"Negative scorings should not be considered" including the ransom for a prisoner? For City of Carcassonne.
Quote from: Carcassonne93 on October 24, 2021, 04:44:24 PMQuote from: Carcassonne93 on October 24, 2021, 02:41:56 PM"Negative scorings should not be considered" including the ransom for a prisoner? For City of Carcassonne.Nothing about this?Can you explain possible scenario?
Quote from: Bumsakalaka on October 24, 2021, 11:25:43 PMQuote from: Carcassonne93 on October 24, 2021, 04:44:24 PMQuote from: Carcassonne93 on October 24, 2021, 02:41:56 PM"Negative scorings should not be considered" including the ransom for a prisoner? For City of Carcassonne.Nothing about this?Can you explain possible scenario?I (Red) lose 3 points, Blue receives 3 points. I do not receive any points, but another player (Blue) receives. Can I place a meeple in the City of Carcassonne?
Hi Ireneu,Welcome to the forums. Hope you enjoy browsing all the stuff available...Regarding your question, I agree with you in how the various scenarios would work... Flying Machines can lead to having several meeples (including abbots) placed on a monastery or on a garden. In this case abbots can benefit from partial scoring even not having the player the majority. When completed (or if incomplete at the end of the game), monasteries and gardens with several meeples would score applying the majority rule.This is not covered in the official rules but it sounds right based on the current rules. I added some notes to WICA just to reflect this situation. Please check footnotes #10 in The Abbot:http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Abbot...and footnote #8 in C2 Flying Machines:http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Flier...and footnot #9 in C1 Flying Machines:http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Flier_(1st_edition)Best regards!
If 2 red meeples are on a monastery and also the blue abbot, if the blue abbot is removed in step 2., the blue player still receives points?
Quote from: Meepledrone on January 12, 2020, 12:33:27 PMHi Ireneu,Welcome to the forums. Hope you enjoy browsing all the stuff available...Regarding your question, I agree with you in how the various scenarios would work... Flying Machines can lead to having several meeples (including abbots) placed on a monastery or on a garden. In this case abbots can benefit from partial scoring even not having the player the majority. When completed (or if incomplete at the end of the game), monasteries and gardens with several meeples would score applying the majority rule.This is not covered in the official rules but it sounds right based on the current rules. I added some notes to WICA just to reflect this situation. Please check footnotes #10 in The Abbot:http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Abbot...and footnote #8 in C2 Flying Machines:http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Flier...and footnot #9 in C1 Flying Machines:http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Flier_(1st_edition)Best regards!The 3 points bonus is still not applied when removing the abbot in step 2.?
The 3 points bonus is still not applied when scoring the acrobat pyramid in step 2. or during final scoring?
To check:https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Abbot#cite_note-13: Need update.https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Under_the_Big_Top#Acrobat_tiles_and_acrobatshttps://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Princess_and_The_Dragon#FairyAlso some footnotes from Exp. 3 and 10 need to be checked.
Quote from: Carcassonne93 on November 19, 2021, 10:26:38 AMIf 2 red meeples are on a monastery and also the blue abbot, if the blue abbot is removed in step 2., the blue player still receives points?Yes, removing the abbot has nothing to do with scoring a feature, so it does not take majority into consideration. When removing the abbot you are scoring the figure, not the feature.Quote from: Carcassonne93 on November 19, 2021, 10:26:38 AMQuote from: Meepledrone on January 12, 2020, 12:33:27 PMHi Ireneu,Welcome to the forums. Hope you enjoy browsing all the stuff available...Regarding your question, I agree with you in how the various scenarios would work... Flying Machines can lead to having several meeples (including abbots) placed on a monastery or on a garden. In this case abbots can benefit from partial scoring even not having the player the majority. When completed (or if incomplete at the end of the game), monasteries and gardens with several meeples would score applying the majority rule.This is not covered in the official rules but it sounds right based on the current rules. I added some notes to WICA just to reflect this situation. Please check footnotes #10 in The Abbot:http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Abbot...and footnote #8 in C2 Flying Machines:http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Flier...and footnot #9 in C1 Flying Machines:http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Flier_(1st_edition)Best regards!The 3 points bonus is still not applied when removing the abbot in step 2.?We don't know yet. Question sent to HiG on 7/2021 but no answer yet.Quote from: Carcassonne93 on November 19, 2021, 10:26:38 AMThe 3 points bonus is still not applied when scoring the acrobat pyramid in step 2. or during final scoring?We don't know yet. Question sent to HiG on 11/2021 but no answer yet.Quote from: Carcassonne93 on November 19, 2021, 10:26:38 AMTo check:https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Abbot#cite_note-13: Need update.https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Under_the_Big_Top#Acrobat_tiles_and_acrobatshttps://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Princess_and_The_Dragon#FairyAlso some footnotes from Exp. 3 and 10 need to be checked.I'm waiting fo the answers to be able to provide an official answer to all these questions dangling around for almost a year now.
Yes, removing the abbot has nothing to do with scoring a feature, so it does not take majority into consideration. When removing the abbot you are scoring the figure, not the feature.
This scoring occurs immediately during the 2. Placing a meeple phase when the abbot is removed. This effectively protects the abbot from the dragon and produces a scoring round for Messages. Afterwards, the normal scoring phase occurs. (3/2015)
You always score the abbot (on the feature) never the feature itself.
This is what we got:https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4927.msg72665#msg72665The following sentence is the key to everything:QuoteYou always score the abbot (on the feature) never the feature itself.This means no majority applied when removing and scoring the abbot.I sent this question to HiG in 7/2021 so they could double confirm. Still waiting for an answer as you may imagine.
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