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Carc Central Community => News and Events => Topic started by: SRBO on July 31, 2014, 12:55:55 AM
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So hello again,
I dunno if anyone already saw it, but there is an intressting new big box coming out in the netherlands:
http://www.999games.nl/spel/Carcassonne%2BBig%2BBox%2B2
It contains:
carcassonne
Wheel of fortune
River I
The expansion
Sheeps and Hills
Traders and builders
and..
2 new colors: pink and purple.
sadly sheeps and hills as a stand alone box hasnt been out yett in the netherlands.
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Thats indeed a good one!
Instead of "The expansion", you could say Inns and Cathedrals. Funny that they keep calling it that way after 8 other expansions came out.
I'm also waiting for Sheep and Hills to be released by 999 games. I could easily order it in Germany but I've got a €15 voucher that I want to use at the local board games store.
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Thats indeed a good one!
Instead of "The expansion", you could say Inns and Cathedrals. Funny that they keep calling it that way after 8 other expansions came out.
I'm also waiting for Sheep and Hills to be released by 999 games. I could easily order it in Germany but I've got a €15 voucher that I want to use at the local board games store.
Haha yeah, im always struggling with the translations, they will release it soon, its already on their site that they are going to release it.
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I was not interested in the big box, but it is now.
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As far as I know and as I read in Piezadeinicio, a spanish carcassonne blog, this very same edition of the big box is also coming to Spain released by devir, the spanish distributor. It should come later this year, around fall/Winter.
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I wonder if it contains all the tiles from wheel of fortune or just the specific additional tiles..
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Here is a link to boardgamegeek.com post which seems to indicate it's both the basic game and the Wheel of Fortune tiles included:
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1210397/carcassonne-big-box-1-or-2-dutch-version (http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1210397/carcassonne-big-box-1-or-2-dutch-version)
I'm curious why it's always River I or II in any release and not both at the same time. Is it because of different companies?
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I'm curious why it's always River I or II in any release and not both at the same time. Is it because of different companies?
I suspect it's because there aren't any official rules about using both rules together (2 springs, etc.). There are certainly a number of good work-arounds for using multiple rivers that are used by members here, but the publishers probably figure that that would just make things confusing for new players.
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I've did the correction reading for the German Rules from HiG.
My BigBox5 is on the way to me. >:D
I really like the rules and this BigBox5.
I hope that the package will come tomorrow or in two days...
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I'm curious why it's always River I or II in any release and not both at the same time. Is it because of different companies?
It's because River II is now considered a part of Count, King & Robber (Expansion 6). It no longer is a stand-alone mini-expansion.
kettlefish:
Now that the news is official, can you give us any insights into what tiles from Wheel of Fortune are included (all 72 or just the 19, or something else?) and if there are any new rules for the 7th and 8th player meeples?
As just an observation, this is by far the most revolutionary Big Box from Hans im Glück. It includes two entirely uncollected expansions, and the addition of the two new meeple colors is something they have not attempted before. I can only assume that the included expansions are going to have the new meeple colors included for the Big Follower, Traders, Pig, and Shepherd pieces. It does stink just a little that any other expansions (Carcassonne Minis, Phantom, Abbey & Mayor, etc) won't include those two new colors as a part of their core sets. Still, I am very excited about this new Big Box, though I still won't be buying it (I already have everything included!).
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I just re-read the release and noticed "2 - 8 speler(s)" is listed on the sidebar. So this compilation will promote playing 8-player games, which also tells me that it will include all or most of Wheel of Fortune's 72 tiles to boost the tile count.
Any other surprises included with this, kettlefish?
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. I can only assume that the included expansions are going to have the new meeple colors included for the Big Follower, Traders, Pig, and Shepherd pieces. It does stink just a little that any other expansions (Carcassonne Minis, Phantom, Abbey & Mayor, etc) won't include those two new colors as a part of their core sets.
That is one very good observation, sadly i only dont have the color purple, so then i would need to buy the missing parts then i guess..
I think i will buy this one, but im unsure, i dont have the purple color, wheel and sheeps not. i always wanted a extra set of the normal carc, so is it smart for me to buy it?
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I have seen the complete list of tiles, beautiful 4 tiles alternatives of the river with elements of the expansion 9.
2 vineyards and 2 sheep drawn on them.
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FOUR NEW TILES!!! WTF?! I really hope these tiles are available elsewhere. And it looks like The River finally has a watermark, too, since that must be what kettlefish posted online a few weeks ago as a teaser for this box. I suppose that may help bring the tile count up to make up for the strange 19 tiles of Wheel of Fortune. Should this non-expansion be called The River III now?
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The new tiles are replaced by 4 of the "river 1", I think the name remains the same, I have not seen the bifurcation, the river Alternative 1. You can find the list shown on CarcF
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Thanks for the info, though that doesn't change the fact that I want those four tiles.
The new tiles are replaced by 4 of the "river 1", I think the name remains the same, I have not seen the bifurcation, the river Alternative 1. You can find the list shown on CarcF.
Can you send me a link to the CarcForum article. I couldn't find it under Big Box 5. Thanks!
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FOUR NEW TILES!!! WTF?! I really hope these tiles are available elsewhere.
Exactly what went through my mind...like a dull screwdriver...
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Well, they haven't let us down yet. Every single expansion element has become available, albeit some much later than others. The Festival was finally sold on Cundco more than a year after the compilation released.
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Thanks for the info, though that doesn't change the fact that I want those four tiles.
The new tiles are replaced by 4 of the "river 1", I think the name remains the same, I have not seen the bifurcation, the river Alternative 1. You can find the list shown on CarcF.
Can you send me a link to the CarcForum article. I couldn't find it under Big Box 5. Thanks!
Ok :)
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Thanks quevy.
So only 12 tiles from Wheel of Fortune. I feel that significantly undermines the value of gambling on the wheel. Kind of unfortunate. I like the four new river tiles, especially with the pre-printed sheep on them. I noticed, though, that the watermark is still missing from the one hill tile. And no new watermark for the River...I was certain that was the icon that kettlefish previewed in the admin forum.
Any news on the 7-8 player rule changes, if any?
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I see the watermark on the tiles. Zoom :)
I think the 9 tiles of the expansion have not been updated on the other list, I think certainly the watermark will be placed on tile hill.
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I see the watermark on the tiles. Zoom :)
I think the 9 tiles of the expansion have not been updated on the other list, I think certainly the watermark will be placed on tile hill.
Was this an official link or a private one? I can't see any in this thread and now I am quite curious!
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It is located in the Download section of CarcF / Sonstige Downloads / Kärtchenliste
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It is located in the Download section of CarcF / Sonstige Downloads / Kärtchenliste
Am I able to access it? CarcF? I'm more curious now. Lol! :@
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The download section requires registration
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The download section requires registration
website url needed. Don't know what CarcF is. O:-)
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Find the information in this section of our forum
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=297.0
http://www.carcassonne-forum.de/index.php
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The BigBox5:
The basic game has some symbols of WoF.
The Expansion Wheel of Fortune has the starting tile and 12 tiles with the watermark of the Wheel of Fortune.
The River I is special with watermark and four tiles included symbols of Sheep and Hills.
The tiles have a nice yellow green.
In the rule book you have the 8 colours and also the wooden figures.
Sorry, I can't post pictures from here...
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Thanks quevy.
So only 12 tiles from Wheel of Fortune. I feel that significantly undermines the value of gambling on the wheel. Kind of unfortunate. I like the four new river tiles, especially with the pre-printed sheep on them. I noticed, though, that the watermark is still missing from the one hill tile. And no new watermark for the River...I was certain that was the icon that kettlefish previewed in the admin forum.
Any news on the 7-8 player rule changes, if any?
They totally had me in when I thought all of Wheel of fortune would come with it but now I have serious doubts. Since I have almost everything in this box, I only wanted this for expansion 9, the new 4 river tiles and a few repeated Wheel of fortune tiles. and the rest (as much as posible) for repurposing for fan expansions, etc. Now it might just be cheaper to get expansion 9 directly and a buch of blanks from cundco shop.
About 7-8 player rules, I don't think they might change anything. Anyway, even though it's posible to play 7-8 players, even 12 etc, imho it's not optimal, it just takes too long for your turn to arrive plus it makes strategy less of an option, since you cannot rely on the chance of getting a tile you want.
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Well, as I have no interest in purchasing this Big Box, I do hope the alternative River tiles will be available at a later date from Cundco or something.
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Thanks for the info, though that doesn't change the fact that I want those four tiles.
The new tiles are replaced by 4 of the "river 1", I think the name remains the same, I have not seen the bifurcation, the river Alternative 1. You can find the list shown on CarcF.
Can you send me a link to the CarcForum article. I couldn't find it under Big Box 5. Thanks!
Ok :)
Can anyone please post the list here?
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List of cards and rules in Czech.
http://www.mindok.cz/userfiles/files/pravidla/8595558301676_50.pdf
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The wheel of fortune appears to be language independant. Is it something new?
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/08/02/yqumerad.jpg)
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List of cards and rules in Czech.
http://www.mindok.cz/userfiles/files/pravidla/8595558301676_50.pdf
Thanks quevy
So 156 Tiles,
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The wheel of fortune appears to be language independant. Is it something new?
Yes, the graphics have been updated, I think it's better.
I prefer things language-independent.
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I don't think that the river I will come online at CundCo with the new design in the next time.
The BigBox5 is a special one - that is my opinion - first time that we helped with the correction reading of the German rules...
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List of cards and rules in Czech.
http://www.mindok.cz/userfiles/files/pravidla/8595558301676_50.pdf (http://www.mindok.cz/userfiles/files/pravidla/8595558301676_50.pdf)
Woah! On page #6, those are some psychadelic-colored farms! :o
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List of cards and rules in Czech.
http://www.mindok.cz/userfiles/files/pravidla/8595558301676_50.pdf (http://www.mindok.cz/userfiles/files/pravidla/8595558301676_50.pdf)
Woah! On page #6, those are some psychadelic-colored farms! :o
hahaha i had to look twice at that too xd
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In 2 weeks after im back from holiday im going to buy it.
There is a deal here that you can buy it for 54 euro's. considering whats in the box (worth of 90-100) when you buy it separatly, i think this is prettty cheap
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Where? I saw it for €60 on sunday in Leiden.
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Where? I saw it for €60 on sunday in Leiden.
http://www.thegamefreak.nl/carcassonne-big-box-2.html
look for the special shops.. with this one you ofcourse have the shippingcosts.. so if you buy it from the store itself you might have them cheaper.
The River I is special with watermark and four tiles included symbols of Sheep and Hills.
it still are 12 tiles, so 4 have changed and with a watermark, cant we just list this as the river III?
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Bedankt! Price is interesting indeed, might consider buying...
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The River I is special with watermark and four tiles included symbols of Sheep and Hills.
it still are 12 tiles, so 4 have changed and with a watermark, cant we just list this as the river III?
It is River I with Sheep and Hills.
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In the PDF it looks like they have fixed the missing watermark on one of the Hills & Sheep tiles. Can anyone confirm that? That and the river tiles would make this quite appealing.
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FOUR NEW TILES!!! WTF?! I really hope these tiles are available elsewhere.
Exactly what went through my mind...like a dull screwdriver...
Man, I really need these four tiles... It's been in my cart for 5 hours now. :o
Has anyone heard of a HiG release or is it still just 999 Games, Mindok, and the possible Devir at this point?
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HiG will be releasing it as kettlefish edited the German version. Why they haven't announced it yet is beyond me. Good luck convincing zman that it's worth publishing, though. They've been wholly uninspiring since they merged with Filosofia.
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In the PDF it looks like they have fixed the missing watermark on one of the Hills & Sheep tiles. Can anyone confirm that? That and the river tiles would make this quite appealing.
The Sheep and Hills tile has a sheep watermark on it.
I already have the BigBox5.
The river tiles are great - they have a new watermark - see the rules of the BigBox5.
The tile of the Wheel of Fortune has a special surprising...
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I don't see a BGG entry for Big Box 5. Someone has requested it?
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The tile of the Wheel of Fortune has a special surprising...
All the tiles and the rules are available, what's special about the Wheel of Fortune tiles except that the expansion only includes 12 of them and the large start tile has been updated to be language independent?
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HiG will be releasing it as kettlefish edited the German version. Why they haven't announced it yet is beyond me. Good luck convincing zman that it's worth publishing, though. They've been wholly uninspiring since they merged with Filosofia.
Oh so that's what kettlefish was up to! O:-) I will definitely hold off then, I wonder if this will be an Essen release. With the way things have been going with Z-Man + Carcassonne, we may just see this after all. Hopefully they don't stop their traction with Hills & Sheep...
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Italian version
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Italian version
Bella, ma non è 'la scatola completa' come dice.
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Italian version
Bella, ma non è 'la scatola completa' come dice.
Italian poetic license :)
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By the way quevy, I read the Italian wikipedia entry on Carcassonne last night and it's a bit behind in expansions. It's missing the minis, Hills and Sheep, monasteries in Germany, the phantom and probably some other things. A project for you? :green-meeple:
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If I have time, I may decide to do so.
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I finally just compared my Wheel of Fortune start tile to that of Big Box 5 and I must say I prefer the original. I know the language was a problem for an international item such as this, but the large ugly symbols mean nothing now. Before they had simple, albeit sometimes hard to understand, instructions on the six sections of the wheel. The lack of those symbols means that players are forced to look into the rules booklet for clarification regarding each section. That isn't intuitive or progressing and I feel it was a mistake to do. Another way should have been found.
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Does anyone have a link to where this Big Box can be purchased? Any language version would be fine. I haven't been able to find it online.
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Scroll up. Reply #41 in this thread.
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In Germany - the BigBox 5 (from 2014) will come to the market "Real-Kauf".
The last BigBoxes had a price around 30 EURO.
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In Germany - the BigBox 5 (from 2014) will come to the market "Real-Kauf".
The last BigBoxes had a price around 30 EURO.
30 omg.. we pay double in netherlands..
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In Germany - the BigBox 5 (from 2014) will come to the market "Real-Kauf".
The last BigBoxes had a price around 30 EURO.
30 omg.. we pay double in netherlands..
Same here. 55-60 Euro.
Considering the small content of BB4 and BB5 compared to the earlier ones, one might call these Big Bucks instead. ::)
I can only compare boxes sold here in Sweden, though. No matter which one was sold (here) the price was always the same. BB3 I am so glad I got that one (the very last copy officially in Sweden!).
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In Germany - the BigBox 5 (from 2014) will come to the market "Real-Kauf".
The last BigBoxes had a price around 30 EURO.
30 omg.. we pay double in netherlands..
BB1, 2 and 3 don't exist here xd. we started at 4.
Same here. 55-60 Euro.
Considering the small content of BB4 and BB5 compared to the earlier ones, one might call these Big Bucks instead. ::)
I can only compare boxes sold here in Sweden, though. No matter which one was sold (here) the price was always the same. BB3 I am so glad I got that one (the very last copy officially in Sweden!).
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Z-Man Games has announced Big Box 5 on Facebook. Here is what they say:
Carcassonne Big Box 5!
Whether you’re a huge Carcassonne fan or experiencing this award-winning game for the first time, the Carcassonne Big Box has something for everyone.
The expansions included in the box change the game in new and exciting ways and can be used in any combination, guaranteeing a new experience every time you play.
In addition to the base game, you will find the following expansions: Inn & Cathedrals, Traders & Builders, The River, Hills & Sheep, and The Wheel of Fortune! Inside you will also find two brand new colors of followers - pink and purple - allowing you to play Carcassonne with 7 or 8 players for the first time.
They go on to say a few more things:
- There are no plans to release the new River separately.
- There are no pink and purple shepherds in the Big Box.
- Someone asked if the Big Box 5 was available in France and they said not yet, but that it will come.
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When looking at the BB5 rule book from Zman, it appears 16 additional Wheel Tiles are intermixed with the base game set? That would provide 19 Wheel tiles total like the normal WoF release, but why would they mark some of the base game tiles instead of including 16 separate tiles? I am hoping I read the note wrong in the tile index section...
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When looking at the BB5 rule book from Zman, it appears 16 additional Wheel Tiles are intermixed with the base game set? That would provide 19 Wheel tiles total like the normal WoF release, but why would they mark some of the base game tiles instead of including 16 separate tiles? I am hoping I read the note wrong in the tile index section...
It is so, like you have read the rule book.
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When somebody finally gets their hands on this, I'm curious to know if any of the contents are worth buying this.
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I've got my BigBox5 directly from HiG...
I like this BigBox.
This time the landscape tiles have a great yellow green for the fields.
In the BigBox4 were the landscape tiles in a dark green for the fields and the texture of the paper was different than all the tiles of all the other boxes...
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When looking at the BB5 rule book from Zman, it appears 16 additional Wheel Tiles are intermixed with the base game set? That would provide 19 Wheel tiles total like the normal WoF release, but why would they mark some of the base game tiles instead of including 16 separate tiles? I am hoping I read the note wrong in the tile index section...
It is so, like you have read the rule book.
I see now on the Czech rules that four of the tiles are marked and there is an explanation below, though I can't translate it. How many of the base game tiles are marked with Wheel of Fortune symbols, in addition to the 12 tiles marked from the expansion?
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When looking at the BB5 rule book from Zman, it appears 16 additional Wheel Tiles are intermixed with the base game set? That would provide 19 Wheel tiles total like the normal WoF release, but why would they mark some of the base game tiles instead of including 16 separate tiles? I am hoping I read the note wrong in the tile index section...
It is so, like you have read the rule book.
I see now on the Czech rules that four of the tiles are marked and there is an explanation below, though I can't translate it. How many of the base game tiles are marked with Wheel of Fortune symbols, in addition to the 12 tiles marked from the expansion?
BigBox5:
Base game: 16 landscape tiles with the Wheel symbol - without watermark:
Wheel-Symbol 1: 9x
Wheel-Symbol 2: 5x
Wheel-Symbol 3: 2x
Expansion Wheel of Fortune: 3 landscape tiles with the Wheel symbol - with watermark wheel:
Wheel-Symbol 1: 2x
Wheel-Symbol 2: 0x
Wheel-Symbol 3: 1x
Expansion Wheel of Fortune: 9 landscape tiles without the Wheel symbol - with watermark wheel - all tiles don't belong to the standard Carcassonne base game.
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I'm just going to say that that is probably the wonkiest way ever of doing that expansion. 12 tiles that aren't from the base game so get watermarks even though only 3 of them have wheels. 16 tiles from without watermarks that show wheels just because they overlap with the tiles from the base game. Why again didn't they just include the Wheel of Fortune expansion AS the base game? Then none of this strangeness would have been necessary. Honestly, I'm becoming less and less intrigued with this Big Box and increasingly disappointed in the decisions that were made.
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I find that logical what they did.
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I'm just going to say that that is probably the wonkiest way ever of doing that expansion. 12 tiles that aren't from the base game so get watermarks even though only 3 of them have wheels. 16 tiles from without watermarks that show wheels just because they overlap with the tiles from the base game. Why again didn't they just include the Wheel of Fortune expansion AS the base game? Then none of this strangeness would have been necessary. Honestly, I'm becoming less and less intrigued with this Big Box and increasingly disappointed in the decisions that were made.
Would have to agree.. Trying to follow it (this thread), and .. I'm still confused as to *why* it was done this way. :D
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I think they did it this way in order that you can play with the standard base game with 72 tiles.
If you play with the WoF-Expansion you have the original WoF "base" game.
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I think they did it this way in order that you can play with the standard base game with 72 tiles.
If you play with the WoF-Expansion you have the original WoF "base" game.
Plus 12 additional standard base game tiles meaning you are playing with 84 tiles instead of 72.
The reason they did it was straight marketing. By doing Wheel of Fortune as an expansion and including a modified base game, they could advertise on the box that both were included, even while in reality only Wheel of Fortune was included as the base game with 12 additional vanilla tiles randomly thrown in. Marketing overpowers logic yet again!
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The BigBox5 is different than all the others BigBox1-4.
The "Base Game" changed... ;D
Some of my other BigBoxes 3+4 were almost material for tiles used for fan-expansions...
(base game, 1.+2. expansion)
The BigBox5 will become a new separate status...
(I can only use 1.+2. expansion for fan-expansions...)
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I am really relieved that they added support for 7&8 players.
It was keeping me awake at night, wondering how I would cope if 7 big guys turned up at my door and they insisted we all play Carcassonne together.
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I've only played once with 8 players so I pretty much understand your concerns Gerry :P
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Today i bought my own box!
Some things i've encountered:
:red-meeple: the rivers back tiles are the same as all others, so not darker like every starttile
:green-meeple: On the front box is a new art for the official carcassonne box. pretty intressting.
:red-meeple: the scoreboard doesn't fit on its right place in the box, without pressing hard on it.
:red-meeple: of course also no drawbag is in the game, while there are 2 expansions in it were it should be.
:green-meeple: there are also shepherds in all colors
:green-meeple: I now have 3 different rivers. 1 with watermark, 1 with crown mark and 1 without a mark, so i can easily seperate them from others.
:green-meeple: :red-meeple: Color of grass is slightly different from bigbox 1( big box 4 international), but it means i can more easily seperate them from others.
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The base game cover image looks the same to me. What do you see different about it?
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As you can see in this pictures
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sorry had to do it in 2 parts
You see the man riding a pig, a donkey, some kind of women and another pig.
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BigBox5:
The cover image of the base game is that one what HiG used since last year...
New Cover - Carcassonne base game (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=483.0)
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BigBox5:
The cover image of the base game is that one what HiG used since last year...
New Cover - Carcassonne base game (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=483.0)
ow haha, sorry, i think its new here:$
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Random and unnecessary. The girl is now smiling at the knight, who is also smiling. It's so busy in the background now. I wonder if Doris Mathaus did the revisions or if someone else added them in. Either way, not impressed. I don't like art being tinkered with.
And don't get me started on the symbolism of her holding a basket of apples now. It was a mixture of fruits before.
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Is the scoreboard the Wheel of Fortune version (with the crowned point marker at 0)? Or just the regular one?
I assume WoF due to the rulebook/common-sense, but just wanted to check with those who have actually got it.
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Is the scoreboard the Wheel of Fortune version (with the crowned point marker at 0)? Or just the regular one?
I assume WoF due to the rulebook/common-sense, but just wanted to check with those who have actually got it.
Yes the scoreboard has the crown from the Wheel of Fortune.
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Is the scoreboard the Wheel of Fortune version (with the crowned point marker at 0)? Or just the regular one?
I assume WoF due to the rulebook/common-sense, but just wanted to check with those who have actually got it.
Yes the scoreboard has the crown from the Wheel of Fortune.
Why is the crown there?
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Because Wheel of Fortune put it there. There's no point to it except to make it stand out against a Carcassonne base game scoreboard.
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The crown represents points (or a single point). I think Wheel of Fortune was the first time points were represented by an icon (on the wheel) so it made sense to add this icon to the scoreboard.
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The crown represents points (or a single point). I think Wheel of Fortune was the first time points were represented by an icon (on the wheel) so it made sense to add this icon to the scoreboard.
didn't think about it! it makes sense!
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To those of you who currently have a copy of wheel of fortune, how much playtime do you get with this expansion?
It seems to be quite a bit different in format from the base game and Traders and Inns.
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I think I've only played the actual expansion three or four times, and one of those was as a part of a megaCarc game so it hardly counts. The problem with the expansion is that the gambling element, which requires the long-term investment of a meeple, just never pays off. And for tile counters, it's predictable to the point that you know which spots it is likely to never land on. The events are kind of fun, but they still don't really do much to the overall game. It definitely is classified as an occasional expansion with us. Let me rank it with the other big ones:
1. Inns & Cathedrals
2. Hills & Sheep
3. Princess & Dragon
4. Abbey & Mayor
5. Traders & Builders
6. Bridges, Castles & Bazaars (no auction variant)
7. Count, King & Cult (mostly just River II and Cult)
8. Wheel of Fortune
9. The Tower
10. The Catapult
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To those of you who currently have a copy of wheel of fortune, how much playtime do you get with this expansion?
It seems to be quite a bit different in format from the base game and Traders and Inns.
The rules state it adds 20 minutes to the base game,
it depends on the kind of playgroup.. we play pretty fast so we do 10 minutes..
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To those of you who currently have a copy of wheel of fortune, how much playtime do you get with this expansion?
It seems to be quite a bit different in format from the base game and Traders and Inns.
The rules state it adds 20 minutes to the base game,
it depends on the kind of playgroup.. we play pretty fast so we do 10 minutes..
Sorry I should have been more clear in my question - I wondered how often the expansion was played
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To those of you who currently have a copy of wheel of fortune, how much playtime do you get with this expansion?
It seems to be quite a bit different in format from the base game and Traders and Inns.
The rules state it adds 20 minutes to the base game,
it depends on the kind of playgroup.. we play pretty fast so we do 10 minutes..
Sorry I should have been more clear in my question - I wondered how often the expansion was played
ow lol, haha, i cant answer that yett, only have it for 2 weeks now..
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By the way, which is the cheapest price for which you can get this big box 5? (big box 2014, carcassonne plus 2014 in some countries). So far the cheapest I have seen listed is 39,99 euros on amazon.de. In Spain it costs 50 euros and just hills and sheep costs 18 euros... Any suggestions on where to buy it?
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In Germany the price for the BigBoxes was 30 Euro at "real". Base Game 16-18 Euro, expansions 11 - 14 Euro.
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In Germany the price for the BigBoxes was 30 Euro at "real". Base Game 16-18 Euro, expansions 11 - 14 Euro.
Do you know any reliable website to buy the Big Box 5 in germany?
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At the moment BigBox5 is not delivered. I don't know wheter "real" has the box in their online-shop www.real.de . In Germany I saw the BigBoxes only in the "real"markets and later at ebay. Probably one of the members should buy it for you and send it to you when they are available.
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So far the cheapest I have seen listed is 39,99 euros on amazon.de.
Could you provide a direct link to it? When I search for "carcassonne big box 5" on amazon.de it does not provide satisfactory results. Muchas gracias.
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So far the cheapest I have seen listed is 39,99 euros on amazon.de.
Could you provide a direct link to it? When I search for "carcassonne big box 5" on amazon.de it does not provide satisfactory results. Muchas gracias.
Jumping in with the link:
http://www.amazon.de/Carcassonne-Big-Box-2014-Erweiterungen/dp/B00N97PE5W/ref=sr_1_64?s=toys&ie=UTF8&qid=1410990864&sr=1-64&keywords=carcassonne (http://www.amazon.de/Carcassonne-Big-Box-2014-Erweiterungen/dp/B00N97PE5W/ref=sr_1_64?s=toys&ie=UTF8&qid=1410990864&sr=1-64&keywords=carcassonne)
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Doesn't seem to allow a British postage address. Oh well.
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Doesn't seem to allow a British postage address. Oh well.
Had the same issue. They ship to Sweden, but like so many websites out there, they never bother to find out that every country has their own way of writing the address.
This is more important than how they want it written. After all, once they ship it, only thing the foreign post look at is the country destination. Once in that country the local postman knows where to go from there.
But, you can always contact them, as I did, and hope to get a reply with help on how to proceed further. :meeple:
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I just got confirmation today that one shop in Sweden has brought in Big Box 5.
Is this good? I'm not sure. 65 Euro incl. shipping. Which is the same as Big Box 3 and 4.
Considering the rich content of Big Box 3 which had 6(?) big expansions Big Box 5 just feel awry with the price tag.
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I saw this in a shop in my town, I still have not bought :)
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Ow dear, thats not good haha!
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Considering the rich content of Big Box 3 which had 6(?) big expansions Big Box 5 just feel awry with the price tag.
Big Box 3 had 5 big expansions:
Inns and Cathedrals
Traders and Builders
The Princess and the Dragon
Abbey and Mayor
Bridges, Castles and Bazaars
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I saw this in a shop in my town, I still have not bought :)
I was drooling when I saw that picture. I don't know if I could resist not buying it if it was on display like this!
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I just got confirmation today that one shop in Sweden has brought in Big Box 5.
Is this good? I'm not sure. 65 Euro incl. shipping. Which is the same as Big Box 3 and 4.
Considering the rich content of Big Box 3 which had 6(?) big expansions Big Box 5 just feel awry with the price tag.
For once they should do a total diffrent big box..
no inns, no builders..
but:
- Wheel of fortune
- Phantoms
- New River (not adjusting 1, 2 or 1(bb5))
- All 6 other colors meeples
- Windroses
- Cathars (6 tiles)
- Plague
- Tunnels
- FOR ONCE the always missing tiledrawbags..
- The festival
- crop Circles 1
- the new Half and half
- The new abbot
- The cloisters
- GQ11
- Little buildings
I would definitly buy it.
Its always the same.. base game, inns Cathedrals, builders and something with it..
if they would change it a little..
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I saw this in a shop in my town, I still have not bought :)
I was drooling when I saw that picture. I don't know if I could resist not buying it if it was on display like this!
Unfortunately at this time I have a lot of expenses, otherwise it was mine now!
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- Cathars (6 tiles)
- Plague
- Tunnels
- the new Half and half
- The new abbot
- GQ11
- Little buildings
Not an option. Most of them are from Spielbox (including half of Half and Half), one from GQ magazine, Abbot needs special tiles from Carcassonne 2.0.
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- Cathars (6 tiles)
- Plague
- Tunnels
- the new Half and half
- The new abbot
- GQ11
- Little buildings
Not an option. Most of them are from Spielbox (including half of Half and Half), one from GQ magazine, Abbot needs special tiles from Carcassonne 2.0.
i know, but still it is an option, IF they would work together, like they are doing now with half and half.
they still can make the abbot compatible with the old art..
Its just, how many of you old veteran players bought the new box? almost none.. i bought it because i did not have half of it..
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As a veteran player with a nearly complete collection, I'm definitely not buying a Big Box (at least not with the original art style). If there's anything in the Big Box that I need, I'd be open to buying the things I'm missing if a certain retailer would be able to make them available to me separately. ;)
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As a veteran player with a nearly complete collection, I'm definitely not buying a Big Box (at least not with the original art style). If there's anything in the Big Box that I need, I'd be open to buying the things I'm missing if a certain retailer would be able to make them available to me separately. ;)
You can also sell / donate them to me to help me reach 10 000 tiles for my attempt on the World Record. O0
(Buy the BB and keep what you want and rid off the rest.)
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I was thinking... it will be very nice if someone would thake some good pictures or scan... expecially of the new big wheel tile... on boardgamegeek there aren't... :)
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I was thinking... it will be very nice if someone would thake some good pictures or scan... expecially of the new big wheel tile... on boardgamegeek there aren't... :)
If not seen it yet, there's one image on page three in this very thread. It's a good picture in regards to showing how it looks like. Quality wise not, but it sure is a good teaser!
I might buy BB5 even though I told myself not to. :meeple:
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mmmm too low quality... :(
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I finally couldn't resist and I bought the Big Box 5 here in Spain, since I saw an offer for 45 euros when the standard retail price is 50. One piece of wisdom, the Sheep & Hills that comes in the big box does NOT have the White bag for the sheep/Wolf tokens which was kind of dissapointing, though I can't confirm if this also happens in other countries.
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I finally couldn't resist and I bought the Big Box 5 here in Spain, since I saw an offer for 45 euros when the standard retail price is 50. One piece of wisdom, the Sheep & Hills that comes in the big box does NOT have the White bag for the sheep/Wolf tokens which was kind of dissapointing, though I can't confirm if this also happens in other countries.
It indeed does not have the white bag.
the same as the draw bag in one of the other expansions.
also the back of the river tiles are normal.
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But at least they have a new WATERmark (pun intended) to identify them easily.
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But at least they have a new WATERmark (pun intended) to identify them easily.
Yeah but if you put the rivers together it just doesnt fit quite well..
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So is this the only big box which has actual new tiles in there?
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So is this the only big box which has actual new tiles in there?
I would say adjusted tiles
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Isnt every tile an adjustment of this tile? I'm feeling very poetic today. :)
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For all with friends or relatives (or holiday)in Germany: The new BigBox can be bought now in the real markets for 30 Euro.
(No, I don't work in a real market and for true, only the BigBox is cheap there, base game and expansions are not so cheap.)
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Looks like a bargain. Do they ship to the UK?
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The online shop only ships in Germany. :(
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@cidervampire (and others), I am in the UK and ordered BB5 from German eBay. The total cost including shipping was only €52.95 which is likely cheaper than the box alone will be when it comes out in the UK! It hasn't arrived yet, but I will update here when it does.
Here is the link: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Carcassonne-Big-Box-2014-NEU-OVP-Hans-im-Gluck-Schmidt-Spiele-/171500095401?pt=DE_Allesf%C3%BCrsKind_Spielzeug_Gesellschaftsspiele&hash=item27ee33c7a9
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@cidervampire (and others), I am in the UK and ordered BB5 from German eBay. The total cost including shipping was only €52.95 which is likely cheaper than the box alone will be when it comes out in the UK! It hasn't arrived yet, but I will update here when it does.
Here is the link: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Carcassonne-Big-Box-2014-NEU-OVP-Hans-im-Gluck-Schmidt-Spiele-/171500095401?pt=DE_Allesf%C3%BCrsKind_Spielzeug_Gesellschaftsspiele&hash=item27ee33c7a9
That’s exactly what I did. Apart from having to navigate the site in German in order to order BB5 (this was helped by Chrome translating everything for me) it was all very plain-sailing for me. I ordered it last week Wednesday and it arrived (in the UK) on the Saturday. Very impressed!
Other than this I’m not sure what else to say about it. Including postage and exchange rates etc the whole thing cost £40.69 which, as JT Atomico says, is about what it will cost when it’s released in English anyway.
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@cidervampire (and others), I am in the UK and ordered BB5 from German eBay.
Thanks for the heads up, think I'll get it on pay day.
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For the French Carcassonne fans here, I was told by a Games shop here in Geneva today that the French (Filosofia) edition of the Big Box 5 might come out next month ("Annoncé pour Décembre sans certitude").
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My copy arrived from Germany today - but bot allowed to open it for another 7 weeks!!!!!!!! Christmas pressie
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For the French Carcassonne fans here, I was told by a Games shop here in Geneva today that the French (Filosofia) edition of the Big Box 5 might come out next month ("Annoncé pour Décembre sans certitude").
If we all would arrive together going in to that store, would it be called a Geneva Convention? ^-^
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List of cards and rules in Czech.
http://www.mindok.cz/userfiles/files/pravidla/8595558301676_50.pdf
Someone has the german (HiG) version of this? Or can you confirm the codes for the tiles are identical?
I ordered some BB5 tiles from Cundco and I got something different! I'd like to know if it's my mistake or they messed up my order...
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At CarcF you can find the German rules for the BigBox5
We did the correction reading for the German rules.
There were some mistakes in the codes for the tiles (Sheep and Hills - Schafe und Hügel)
Here is the link to CarcF:
BigBox 2014 (http://carcassonne-forum.de/viewtopic.php?f=203&t=1892)
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Thanks kettlefish!
After verification, I gave specific codes and they sent the wrong tiles... so it's their mistake.
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Hi Jerè,
could you please give an example what you like to have and what they have sent to you?
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Sure, I will send you more details in a PM.
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Hi
I've already got the original 72 tile set of the Wheel of Fortune. I'd like to add the 12 tiles from the Wheel of Fortune from the Big Box to have an 84 tile watermarked set of Wheel of Fortune but I'm a bit confused with how the set works in the Big Box.
The base set in the Big Box only has 16 tiles with wheel numbers on compared to the 19 in the Wheel of Fortune boxed set. In the 12 tile Wheel of Fortune expansion in the Big Box there are another 3 numbered tiles bringing the total up to 19. If I simply add the 12 tiles to my Wheel of Fortune set then I'll have 22 numbered tiles instead of 19 and if I leave 3 numbered tiles out then I'll only have an 81 tile set rather than the 84 I wanted.
Does anyone know which tiles I'll be missing in order to complete an 84 tile watermarked set with the same configuration and the same numbers on the tiles as the Big Box 72 tiles+12 Wheel of Fortune tiles?
I know this sounds a bit OCD but it's bugging me!
Help!
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It doesn't work like that with the BB5 version. The 12 tiles that are watermarked are those that vary from the tiles included in the original Carcassonne base game (i.e., the tiles from the Wheel of Fortune base game that did not match the tiles from the Carcassonne base game). In the Big Box, there are non-watermarked tiles with Wheel Numbers on them within the "base game" set. Players are told simply to ignore those tiles if not playing with Wheel of Fortune. Most of the numbered tiles, in fact, are not watermarked, while most of the 12 watermarked tiles are simply vanilla tiles.
Edit: To the best of my knowledge, between the "Wheel of Fortune expansion" tiles and the "base game" tiles in the Big Box, you should have 19 Wheel tiles.
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If you want more Wheel of Fortune numbers on your tiles, just print these on transparent adhesive film and glue them to your chosen tiles. ;)
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If you want more Wheel of Fortune numbers on your tiles, just print these on transparent adhesive film and glue them to your chosen tiles. ;)
Does it work well shen shuffling or drawing from a bag?
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If you want more Wheel of Fortune numbers on your tiles, just print these on transparent adhesive film and glue them to your chosen tiles. ;)
Does it work well shen shuffling or drawing from a bag?
No, I don't think it will work when you use a drawingbag. You will feel the film, no matter how thin it is. But if you draw from a tower it works perfect.
I have got a very thin film and have no problem with shuffling.
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I'd never noticed that Wheel of fortune had different tiles to the base game, I just asumed they were the same. I guess the odd 12 tile expansion in Big Box 5 makes sense now
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Hi Jerè,
could you please give an example what you like to have and what they have sent to you?
I think we all are thinking the same tinghs...
is it possible to order separately new rivers tiles in this way?
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Hi Jerè,
could you please give an example what you like to have and what they have sent to you?
I think we all are thinking the same tinghs...
is it possible to order separately new rivers tiles in this way?
I would like to know too. Hills & Sheep is quickly climbing my list of favourite expansions and The River I with the new features is an essential element in this.
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Hi Jéré,
could you please give an example what you like to have and what they have sent to you?
I think we all are thinking the same tinghs...
is it possible to order separately new rivers tiles in this way?
I would like to know too. Hills & Sheep is quickly climbing my list of favourite expansions and The River I with the new features is an essential element in this.
I will let you know. So far, it's not looking good.
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Hello! This is my first post here.
I am glad to see that I am not the only one with trouble fitting the scoring track in its place.
Also, something confuses me about the tile selection between this set and the standalone WoF. There are nine tiles from the vanilla Carcassonne that are not representated in WoF. This set instead uses 12. More tiles is probably better, probably.
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Also, something confuses me about the tile selection between this set and the standalone WoF. There are nine tiles from the vanilla Carcassonne that are not representated in WoF. This set instead uses 12. More tiles is probably better, probably.
I should just have this as a default cut-and-paste response at this point. I think I've answered the comment at least three times since someone answered it for me:
The version of Wheel of Fortune included in Big Box 5 is complete. The 12 tiles included as the "expansion" are the 12 tiles that differed from the titles included in the Carcassonne base game. Yes, 12 tiles were different between the Wheel of Fortune base game and the Carcassonne base game. That is why the 12 tiles do not all even have "wheel" icons on them. In the Big Box, there are tiles with "wheel" icons that do not have the expansion's watermark. The rules state in the tile summary that when playing with the base game and not the Wheel of Fortune expansion, ignore the "wheel" icons on the tiles. This was a method that Hans im Glück chose to use to get the Wheel of Fortune AND the base game included in the same box without removing the base game entirely from the box (which could confuse people, and, from a marketing standpoint, meant that an extra expansion could be advertised on the box). Thus the entire Wheel of Fortune expansion is included, but only 12 tiles have watermarks.
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My apologies for my unclear "on the phone" writing. What I mean to say is that BB 5 could have got away with only having 9 watermarked WoF tiles instead of 12, if that makes sense.
For example, the BB5 version has 9 90 degree road tiles if you combine the base game and the WoF expansion, whereas both stand alone versions have 8.
I'm sorry about the miscommunication.
Edit: oops... The base game has 9 of those tiles. WoF has 8. BB5 has 10 if you combine base + WoF expansion.
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Specifically, the three "bonus" WoF tiles in BB5 are the RRFF, RFRF, and the RFRC. Just the fact that they added more than necessary was what confused me. But like I said, more tiles are probably better than fewer. :)
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So you counted all tiles and compared the two versions. The Original WoF has only 72 tiles I think, which should be taken away if using BB5 with the WoF-expansion for the original WoF?
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Necro alert ... I realize my post is almost three years too late, but this was the most "general" BB5 thread I could find as a place to tether a link to my new discussion.
Yes, 12 tiles were different between the Wheel of Fortune base game and the Carcassonne base game.
Actually it's just 9 or 10 (depending on whether you count the start tile's back changing from dark to light).
Specifically, the three "bonus" WoF tiles in BB5 are the RRFF, RFRF, and the RFRC. Just the fact that they added more than necessary was what confused me.
Yeah, this was also part of the confusion for me, too.
Though I still don't quite have a Wheel of Fortune secured for myself, I have been trying to wrap my head around these configuration differences, both obvious and subtle. It's been frustrating.
I've read a lot of information in these forums, in the CAR, on BGG and the interwebs in general, and even a few posts on CarcF. Almost everyone has something helpful to add, but nobody (that I have found, anyway) has really laid out the full picture; I haven't found any one source that is complete and 100% correct, at least not in a way that I could understand. The CAR does offer a fair amount of information, but it could use more clarity in the details, additional tile distribution images, and a correction or two.
So yesterday I went through the mind-numbing exercise of downloading tile scans of both standalone and BB5, and doing a tile-by-tile comparison of every detail including gameplay, watermarks, and even the decorative buildings. Then I created some graphics to illustrate what I learned, with the intention of using them in the next CAR update. You can see it all in the CAR 7.5 Prep Discussion: Wheel of Fortune Version Comparison (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=3551) thread.
Here's a quick preview of one of the images, which for now is only thumbnail quality until I have my own copies that I can scan at better resolution.
(https://s20.postimg.cc/7fymt61wt/Wo_F-_Both-19_Wheels.png.png)
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I don't see the what the confusion is about. It's simply two different versions of Wheel of Fortune. ;D :(y)