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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #195 on: January 03, 2023, 03:45:19 AM »
Question #10: The Grinch has come back with another question for you. How many points does each player score after this tile is placed? Take into account these scoring tiles as the active ones.



Answer #10: The tile completes a city which will be affected by the Bad Neighborhood scoring tile. As a result, this 11-tile city will be scored as if it was a 6-tile city (the tile count will ignore those tiles only contributing with semicircular segments to the city). However, all the meeples and bonuses affecting the semicircular segments will be considered as usual, so Blue's mayor and the two German castles will be considered as usual.

Blue is the only player with the majority, since the city has 2 coats of arms. So Blue has 2 majority votes against 1 from the other players. As a result, Blue will be the player scoring for this city.

When scoring the city, we will have to consider the following:
- 6 tiles (after the effect of the Bad Neighborhood scoring tile)
- 2 coats of arms
- The Witch
- The Darmstadtium tile
- 2 German castles

The city is then worth 17 points (8 points for the city affected by the Witch + 3 points for the Darmstadtium + 6 points for the German castles)
- 8 points for the city itself affected by the Witch ( ( (6 tiles + 2 coats of arms) x 2 points ) / 2 for the Witch = (8 x 2 points / 2 ) = 8 points)
- 3 points for the Darmstadtium
- 6 points for the German castles (2 German castles x 3 points each)

Bottomline:
- Blue will score 17 points
- Red will score 0 points
- Yellow will score 0 points
« Last Edit: January 05, 2023, 02:26:50 AM by Meepledrone »
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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #196 on: January 03, 2023, 03:47:53 AM »
Question #11: The Gingerbread Man places this tile on Blue's behalf. The player has the following questions:
a) How many points does each player score? (0-5 points)
b) Where will the Gingerbread Man figure move to? (0-1 point)



Answer #11: This tile placement completes the city with a gingerbread man tile, so the Gingerbread Man figure will grant its bonus and will move to a new uncompleted city: the semicircular city segment on the left (the only option in this scenario).

Before scoring the city, the players will score the gingerbread man bonus:
- Blue will score 16 points (8 tiles x 1 points per tile x 2 meeples).
- Red will score 8 points (8 tiles x 1 points per tile x 1 meeple).

Now we score the city. Blue has the majority so this player is the only one scoring 20 points for the city ( (8 tiles + 2 coats of arms) x 2 points = 10 x 2 points)

Bottomline:
a) The scoring is as follows:
   - Blue will score 36 points (16 bonus points for the Gingerbread Man figure + 20 points for the city)
   - Red will score 8 points (8 bonus points for the Gingerbread Man figure)
b) The Gingerbread Man figure will move to the semicircular city segment on the left.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2023, 02:27:10 AM by Meepledrone »

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #197 on: January 03, 2023, 03:50:19 AM »
Question #12: The Snowman places this tile on Red's behalf. The player has the following questions:
a) Can the player use the magic portal to occupy the monastery in the city with a normal meeple? Why? (0-1 point)
b) How many points does each player score according to the previous answer? (0-5 points)
c) What will happen to the Blue Meeple on the tower? (0-1 point)



Answer #12: The tile placement completes the city and the unoccupied monastery in the city. A magic portal cannot send a meeple to a completed feature, even if it was completed by the tile just placed (the monastery was completed in 1. Placing a tile before the magic portal could be used in 2. Placing a meeple ). So, the scenario will be scored as it is.

Red and Yellow share the majority in the city. Both players will score 18 points for it ( (7 tiles + 2 coasts of arms) x 2 points = 9 x 2 points)

The blue meeple on the tower does not participate in the city scoring, so it does not affect the majority and will not be removed after scoring it. The meeple will stay on the tower as is. It may stay there until the end of the game or until it is captured by another tower.

Bottomline:
a) No, Red cannot deploy the normal meeple onto the monastery, since the feature was completed before the magic portal could be used.
b) The scoring will be as follows:
   - Blue scores no points
   - Red scores 18 points
   - Yellow scores 18 points
c) The blue meeple on the tower stays there.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2023, 02:27:31 AM by Meepledrone »

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #198 on: January 03, 2023, 04:27:24 AM »
Half way through it

Congratulations @corinthiens13 , you have taken off and seem unstoppable again...  :D ... it looks you are unbeatable on speed!!

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #199 on: January 03, 2023, 04:36:52 AM »
Thanks  :)
Having kids that still wake up during the night is of some help, couldn't miss midnight questions :yellow-meeple:

But anything may still happen !

And congratulation Snearone, very good points for those last questions !

By the way, is there a mistake with question 12's table ? I think Snearone did answer correctly (6 points), but the "OK" column is red  :o


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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #200 on: January 03, 2023, 04:40:33 AM »
Thanks  :)
Having kids that still wake up during the night is of some help, couldn't miss midnight questions :yellow-meeple:

But anything may still happen !

And congratulation Snearone, very good points for those last questions !

By the way, is there a mistake with question 12's table ? I think Snearone did answer correctly (6 points), but the "OK" column is red  :o

haha, I had a discussion with Meepledrone on this already concerning another question. I was not aware that the OK has only 1 if ALL the questions are anwered correctly. In this case 7 points were possible for the fastest, it seems he got one of the 1 point questions wrong but he still got 5+1

Right, Meepledrone?
I think now I got it  :D

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #201 on: January 03, 2023, 04:43:17 AM »
Seems logical, thanks for the explanation :yellow-meeple:

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #202 on: January 03, 2023, 04:48:22 AM »
Thanks  :)
Having kids that still wake up during the night is of some help, couldn't miss midnight questions :yellow-meeple:

But anything may still happen !

And congratulation Snearone, very good points for those last questions !

By the way, is there a mistake with question 12's table ? I think Snearone did answer correctly (6 points), but the "OK" column is red  :o

This was the case for several answers to question 12.c), where it was stated that the meeple would stay on the tower until the end of the game (no other options where mentioned). However, it could also be captured by the adjacent tower. >:D
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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #203 on: January 03, 2023, 04:54:46 AM »
Thanks  :)
Having kids that still wake up during the night is of some help, couldn't miss midnight questions :yellow-meeple:

But anything may still happen !

And congratulation Snearone, very good points for those last questions !

By the way, is there a mistake with question 12's table ? I think Snearone did answer correctly (6 points), but the "OK" column is red  :o

haha, I had a discussion with Meepledrone on this already concerning another question. I was not aware that the OK has only 1 if ALL the questions are anwered correctly. In this case 7 points were possible for the fastest, it seems he got one of the 1 point questions wrong but he still got 5+1

Right, Meepledrone?
I think now I got it  :D

That's correct. OK = 1 means all the subquestions wre okay... So, you may have OK = 0 due to a wrong 1-point answer but you may receive several points though, like in this case.

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #204 on: January 03, 2023, 08:43:42 AM »
I continue to be shocked at how many I’ve gotten wrong.


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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #205 on: January 03, 2023, 09:58:53 AM »
You missed the Advent Quizzes in previous years, so you were unaware of all the tiny traps here and there. Have fun reading the answers...

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #206 on: January 03, 2023, 10:01:03 AM »
Question #13: Santa Claus places this tile on Blue's behalf. How many points does each player score if all the players want to score the most points for their castles?



Answer #13: The tile placement completes three features:
- The road occupied by Red worth 4 points (4 tiles x 1 points)
- An unoccupied city worth 10 points ( (4 tiles + 1 coat of arms) x 2 points = 5 x 2 points)
- An unoccupied monastery worth 9 points (9 tiles x 1 point per tile)

First off, Red will score 4 points for the road.

The road and the monastery -even if unoccupied- will trigger the scoring of the castle occupied by Blue on the left, since both features overlap the castle fief. In turn, this castle will trigger the scoring of the castle occupied by Red. Blue may choose to score for the road or the monastery, but we want to score the most points, so Blue will choose the monastery. As a result, both Blue and Red will score 9 points for their castles on the left.

On the other hand, the city -even if unoccupied- triggers the scoring of the castle occupied by Yellow's mayor. This castle will trigger the castle occupied by Blue on the right. Both castles are worth the same points as the city, that is 10 points, but Yellow's mayor won't be able to score points for the castle, since a castle has no coats of arms. However, Yellow will receive the 3 points for the Fairy. As a result, Yellow  will score 3 points and Blue will score 10 points.

Notes:
- Yellow does not receive the Fairy 1-point bonus at the beginning of this turn because the player is not the active one.
- We assume the active player does not move the Fairy from its current position in this scenario.
- Blue's castle on the right scores the same points the castle occupied by Yellow is worth, no matter the player cannot score for it. Likewise, Blue's castle on the right will not receive points for the Fairy bonus received by Yellow, since it is a bonus associated with the meeple in the feature, not with the feature itself.
- Yellow does not receive the fairy 1-point bonus at the beginning of this turn because the player is not the active one.

Bottomline:
- Blue will score 19 points (9 points for the left castle + 10 points for the right castle)
- Red will score 13 points (3 points for the road + 9 points for the castle)
- Yellow will score 3 points for the Fairy.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2023, 02:28:00 AM by Meepledrone »

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #207 on: January 03, 2023, 10:03:37 AM »
Question #14: Blue places this abbey under Danisthirty's careful supervision. How many points does each player score?

Please indicate what set of rules you chose for your answer when dealing with Halflings and double-sized tiles (C1 or C2).



Answer #14: The placement of this abbey tile completes several features:
- The abbey just placed and occupied by Blue
- The German castle also occupied by Blue
- The road occupied by Red and Yellow.
- The city occupied by Yellow
- The city occupied by Blue and Red
- The unoccupied road on the German castle tile.

Note that the Halfling tiles alone in a square are enough to occupy a square space and consider the abbey and the German monastery completely surrounded.

Depending on the ruleset used for Halflings and double-sized tiles, there will be two different outcomes.
- The C1 rules consider each tile individually no matter their shape, so two Halflings in a square count as 2 tiles, and one double-sized tile counts as 1 tile.
- The C2/C3 rules consider occupied spaces when scoring features, so two Haflings in a square count as 1 tile, and one double-sized tile counts as 2 tiles (except when scoring a long road on a Leipzig tile)

C2/C3 rules:

Let's check each completed feature in turn...

Blue will score 9 points for the abbey (9 occupied spaces x 1 point). Note that the German castle counts as 2 occupied spaces.

Blue will score 12 points for the German castle (12 occupied spaces x 1 point). Note that the 2 Halflings on the right and the 2 Halflings top left are counted as 1 occupied space (or tile) each.

Red and Yellow share the majority on the road, so both players will score 12 points (9 points for the road + 3 bonus points for the German castle):
   - 9 points for the road itself (9 occupied spaces x 1 point). Note that the German castle counts as 2 occupied spaces. Additionally, the two Halflings in the space top left are counted as 1 occupied space (or tile).
   - 3 bonus points for the German castle (1 German castle x 3 points). Note that even if the road ends several times at the German castle, its bonus is granted only once.

Yellow will score 2 points for the city (1 city segment x 2 points)

Blue and Red share the city, but Blue has the majority in the city (a major with two coats of arms vs. one normal meeple. So, Blue alone will score 19 points for the city (16 points for the city itself + 3 bonus points for the German castle):
   - 16 points for the city itself ( (6 occupied spaces + 2 coats of arms) x 2 points) = 8 x 2 points). Note that the space occupied by the mayor has two Halflings which will be counted as 1 occupied space.
   - 3 bonus points for the German castle (1 German castle x 3 points).
   
No players will score points for the unoccupied road on the German castle tile.

Bottomline:
- Blue will score 40 points (9 points for the abbey + 12 points for the German castle + 19 points for the city)
- Red will score 12 points for the road
- Yellow will score 14 points (12 points for the road + 2 points for the city)


C1 rules:

Let's check each completed feature in turn...

Blue will score 8 points for the abbey (8 tiles x 1 point). Note that the German castle counts as 1 tile.

Blue will score 14 points for the German castle (2 points for the German castle tile + (12 adjacent tiles x 1 point) = 2 + 12 points). Note that the 2 Halflings on the right and the 2 Halflings top left are counted as individual tiles.

Red and Yellow share the majority on the road, so both players will score 11 points (8 points for the road + 3 bonus points for the German castle):
   - 8 points for the road itself (8 tiles x 1 point). Note that the German castle counts as 1 tile only. Additionally, the two Halflings in the space top left are counted individualy, but only one of them contributes to the road in any case.
   - 3 bonus points for the German castle (1 German castle x 3 points). Note that even if the road ends several times at the German castle, its bonus is granted only once.

Yellow will score 2 points for the city (1 city segment x 2 points)

Blue and Red share the city, but Blue has the majority in the city (a major with two coats of arms against one normal meeple. So, Blue alone will score 21 points (18 points for the city itself + 3 bonus points for the German castle):
   - 18 points for the city itself ( (7 tiles + 2 coats of arms) x 2 points) = 9 x 2 points). Note that the space occupied by the mayor has two Halflings which will be counted individually.
   - 3 bonus points for the German castle (1 German castle x 3 points).
   
No players will score points for the unoccupied road on the German castle tile.

Bottomline:
- Blue will score 43 points (8 points for the abbey + 14 points for the German castle + 21 points for the city)
- Red will score 11 points for the road
- Yellow will score 13 points (11 points for the road + 2 points for the city)
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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #208 on: January 03, 2023, 10:05:54 AM »
Question #15: The Grinch places this tile on Blue's behalf. How many points does each player score if the player decides to score the city just completed and not build a castle?

Note:
- This tile is not the last one in the game.
- The animal token under the big top is shown face up in the picture.



Answer #15: This tile placement has the following effects:
- It completes the city occupied by Blue. This will also trigger the scoring of the castles occupied by Yellow and, in turn, this castle will also trigger the scoring of the castle occupied by Red.
- After this scoring, the big top will have to be scored and moved to the circus space on the newly placed tile, placing a new animal token face down underneath.

Let's score the city and the castles first:
- Blue will score 4 points for the small city (2 tiles x 2 points)
- Yellow will score 4 points for the completed city in its fief.
- Red will also score 4 points for the completed castle occupied by Yellow.
So all three features score the same points.

Note that Yellow will not receive any ringmaster bonus. A ringmaster placed in a castle does not provide any bonus to its owner, since it is not a feature from the base game (as clarified by HiG).

Additionally, note that the Barn is in a field that is not connected to the one with Blue's farmer and pig. So no field scoring is triggered in this scenario.

At this point the meeple in the city and the meeples in the two castles are returned to their owners. Afterwards, the big top is scored without considering these meeples just removed. Therefore, only the meeples on the board at this point are considered for the scoring of the big top. Special figures are not considered, so Red's builder and barn as well as Blue's shepherd and pig will not receive points for the big top.

The players with meeples in the vicinity of the big top will score 7 points per meeple:
- Blue will receive 7 points for their acrobat (1 meeple x 7 points).
- Red will receive 14 points for the meeples on the monastery (a phantom) and in the city (2 meeples x 7 points)
- Yellow will receive 7 points for their acrobat (1 meeple x 7 points).

Bottomline:
- Blue will score 11 points (4 points for the city + 7 points for the big top)
- Red will score 18 points (4 points for the castle + 14 points for the big top)
- Yellow will score 11 points (4 points for the castle + 7 points for the big top)
« Last Edit: January 05, 2023, 02:28:38 AM by Meepledrone »

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Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXXII
« Reply #209 on: January 03, 2023, 10:07:17 AM »
Question #16: The Gingerbread Man places this tile on Red's behalf. How many points does each player score?



Answer #16: Once the tile is drawn and before placing it, Red will move the Big Pink Pig on the Wheel of Fortune 2 sectors in clockwise direction. It will land on the Taxes sector.

The taxes action will be performed separately per city:

- City on the left:
  - Blue will score 3 points ( (1 meeple + 2 coats of arms) x 1 meeple x 1 point per meeple = 3 x 1 x 1 points)
  - Yellow will score 3 points ( (1 meeple + 2 coats of arms) x 1 meeple x 1 point per meeple = 3 x 1 x 1 points)

- City at the bottom:
  - Blue will score 2 points ( (1 meeple + 1 coats of arms) x 1 meeple x 1 point per meeple = 2 x 1 x 1 points)

After performing the Taxes action, Red will score 6 points for the meeple standing alone on a two-space sector of the crown. This meeple is then returned to its owner.

After placing the tile no feature is completed, so no other points are scored this turn.

Bottomline:
- Blue will score 5 points (3 points + 2 points for the Taxes action)
- Red will score 6 points for the meeple on the crown space.
- Yellow will score 3 points for the Taxes action.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2023, 02:28:56 AM by Meepledrone »


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