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Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« on: April 19, 2022, 04:48:06 AM »
Dear all,

Cundco is listing the following expansions:

Carcassonne - Burgen in Deutschland C3 (DE/EN)

https://cundco.de/mini-erweiterungen/carcassonne/281/carcassonne-burgen-in-deutschland-c3-de/en?c=12

Carcassonne - Das Fest C3 (DE/EN)

https://cundco.de/mini-erweiterungen/carcassonne/222/carcassonne-das-fest-c3-de/en?c=12

These item names have changed in German only but the rest of the item description, pictures and rules are still reflecting the C2 version both in German and English.

I asked Cundco about all this and they confirmed they are now selling the C3 versions although they couldn't update the webshop accordingly due to the Easter break. :o

Let's see if they update everything accordingly in the following days.


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« Last Edit: April 19, 2022, 04:51:53 AM by Meepledrone »
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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2022, 05:44:30 AM »
Great news, looking forward to the updated artwork!

Let's hope they changed the 15th anniversary logo to a proper watermark this time, similar to the 20th anniversary mini :)

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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2022, 05:48:25 AM »
I'm crossing my fingers too! ;D

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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2022, 06:06:42 AM »
Wtf

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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2022, 06:07:44 AM »
The C3 crusade and conversion has only begun emoji code1787]


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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2022, 06:51:59 AM »
And so it begins…

I’d like to see some photos when someone gets their hands on these.


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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2022, 06:04:55 AM »
I don't understand. They are selling the new edition of the expansions, but they're using old photos? Isn't that a little bit suspicious?

Slightly off-topic question: will the list of content on the wiki be updated when C3 content will be available? I guess C3 will be the new "New Edition"?

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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2022, 06:50:41 AM »
Where are the differences (C2 vs C3)?

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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2022, 06:57:16 AM »
Where are the differences (C2 vs C3)?
No idea. From what I understood the only piece of C3 that already exists is the 2022 version of the base game, with no differences at all from the second edition apart from the box art.

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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2022, 07:24:30 AM »
You can find here a bit of info about the difference between C2 ad C3 (as in the 20th Anniversary edition and other releases starting from 2020): more detailed graphics, buildings overflowing city edges and rounder corners in some cases.

https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Visual_Changes_in_the_2nd_Edition#Cities_with_clipped_buildings

Click on the images to see the details.

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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2022, 07:45:46 AM »
You can find here a bit of info about the difference between C2 ad C3 (as in the 20th Anniversary edition and other releases starting from 2020): more detailed graphics, buildings overflowing city edges and rounder corners in some cases.

https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Visual_Changes_in_the_2nd_Edition#Cities_with_clipped_buildings

Click on the images to see the details.

That's C3?!? I thought it was C2.1.

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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2022, 07:49:35 AM »
Yoy will find some notes on C2.0/C2.1 here (first part of the same page):

https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Visual_Changes_in_the_2nd_Edition#Darker_cities

C2.0 is regular C2 with darker city backgrounds (the original C2 version) and C2.1 is the normal C2 tiles with lighter backgrounds (the more common ones that probably we all got until now).

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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2022, 07:54:23 AM »
Yoy will find some notes on C2.0/C2.1 here (first part of the same page):

https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Visual_Changes_in_the_2nd_Edition#Darker_cities

C2.0 is regular C2 with darker city backgrounds (the original C2 version) and C2.1 is the normal C2 tiles with lighter backgrounds (the more common ones that probably we all got until now).
Why does a minor change like the lighter backgrounds turn C2 into C2.1 but another minor change like clipped buildings turn C2 into C3? I don't understand. Even the wiki page doesn't use the term "Third Edition", it just says "the new releases of the Second Edition of Carcassonne" (so it's more like C2.2 than C3, is it?)

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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2022, 08:04:49 AM »
The main differences are, as Meepledrone mentioned, more detailed graphics and buildings overflowing city edges.
The rounded corners seem to be a publisher-specific thing.
For example, i've got a 2019 C2.1 ZMG set with rounded corners, and a 2021 C3 Mindok without.

The main reason for calling this C3, is because HiG does. They have released the latest base game and big box as Version 3, and even on Cundco now listed these expansions as C3.
Plus, the graphic design team has changed, with Marcel Grober taking over from Anne Patzke

The change from C2.0 to C2.1 was not really acknowledged by HiG in marketing.

Perhaps WICA could use an update on these as well? For the Collections&Expansions page i have listed the C3 releases as such.
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Re: Castles in Germany and The Festival in C3
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2022, 08:10:18 AM »
The main reason for calling this C3, is because HiG does.
I wouldn't have any problem doing so, if only I'd understand what is "this"  :)
While it's pretty clear to me how to tell a C1 piece from a C2 piece (because the differences are huge, both on graphics and on rules), it's quite confusing to tell if a recent piece is C2 or C3. The 20th Anniversary edition, for example, for me it's C2 (and the wiki seems to agree since there is no content listed as third edition) but for many others it's C3.

This is very confusing. An example. From what I understand, the Flying Machine tiles from BB6 and BB7 are perfectly identical. But the first one are C2 and the second ones C3?  :o


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