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Title: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: danisthirty on July 08, 2022, 09:22:23 AM
Hey everyone. Hope you're all well. :)

I wanted to let anyone who might be interested in playing some online board games know that I've created a Carcassonne Central group at Board Game Arena (BGA). I've invited as many CarcC members as I'm aware of from my friends list, but it's an open group so you should be able to join even without an invite. The group can be found here: https://www.boardgamearena.com/group?id=12347445. Players of all abilities are very welcome and encouraged to join!

BGA makes it pretty easy to organise tournaments in a range of styles (Swiss/ single elimination/ round robin) so my intention is that we can use the group to host CarcC tournaments for Carcassonne (and other games) and have some fun together over a few games of whatever boardgames everyone wants to play without getting too serious about it all.

Please post thoughts/ comments here, or list any games you'd be interested in playing against other CarcC regulars...

I'll update again here in a week or so. Hope to see you there before then! 8) :(y)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: DIN0 on July 08, 2022, 10:24:28 AM
Interesting, I will look into this, I have not played BGA carc in a while. Thanks for the initiative!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: Decar on July 08, 2022, 11:48:41 PM
Thanks Dan nice idea. +1 from me
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: Bumsakalaka on July 08, 2022, 11:57:30 PM
I'm already there :)

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: Meepledrone on July 09, 2022, 11:23:52 AM
Nice idea!

Are you organizing a CarcC Summer Championship then?

+1 merit from me.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: Halfling on July 09, 2022, 12:19:37 PM
Cracking idea.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: DrMeeple on July 09, 2022, 01:48:26 PM
Meepledrone we need you!!


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Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: danisthirty on July 12, 2022, 01:32:27 AM
Oooh, I wasn't aware anybody had responded to this as I hadn't received any CarcC email notifications. It's good to see that others are keen to give this a go! :(y)

Nice idea!

Are you organizing a CarcC Summer Championship then?

+1 merit from me.

Not necessarily a championship as such, just looking to provide an opportunity for all of us to play games on BGA and build some friendships/ get to know each other a little better over a virtual boardgame or two :)

Our BGA group now has 22 members which I think is enough to get things started. I couldn't quite decide how to get things started though, so I thought I'd put it to a vote. I haven't decided exactly what the options will be yet, but my anticipation is that it will be:

a) Carcassonne
b) Head-to-head (2-players per game)
c) Turn-based (i.e. asynchronous [i.e. both players don't have to be playing at the same time, you just play your move when it's your turn and you're online, then check back next time to see if your opponent has responded - these games usually have a time limit of 3 - 5 days so you'll need to be logging into BGA quite frequently in order to make sure you complete your game before running out of time])

I haven't yet decided:

a) Expansions: BGA offers The River, Inns & Cathedrals, Traders & Builders and Princess & Dragon. Maybe we want to start small, maybe we don't. I'll include this as a voting option
b) Format: This could be single-elimination (knockout), Swiss or Round Robin. Swiss means everyone gets a set number of games and each round is drawn against an opponent with a similar win/ loss record in the tournament so far. Round Robin means everyone plays everyone else, but all games start at the same time so you'll suddenly have half a dozen games on the go which can be a bit intense.

My feeling is that probably a Swiss tournament with one, or maybe two expansions might be a good way to start. But we'll vote on it, and I'll share links to the polls below so watch this space! 8)

Once decided, I'll create the tournament and send invites via BGA to everyone in our group there.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: danisthirty on July 12, 2022, 01:50:04 AM
Please respond to the following polls to make sure our first BGA tournament is something that we've all had our say about: C:-)

- Our First BGA Tournament - Style (https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=6009)
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Our First BGA Tournament - Expansions (https://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=6010)

Thanks! :blue-meeple:
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: Uhome on July 12, 2022, 05:50:30 AM
Oooh, I wasn't aware anybody had responded to this as I hadn't received any CarcC email notifications. It's good to see that others are keen to give this a go! :(y)

Nice idea!

Are you organizing a CarcC Summer Championship then?

+1 merit from me.

Not necessarily a championship as such, just looking to provide an opportunity for all of us to play games on BGA and build some friendships/ get to know each other a little better over a virtual boardgame or two :)

Our BGA group now has 22 members which I think is enough to get things started. I couldn't quite decide how to get things started though, so I thought I'd put it to a vote. I haven't decided exactly what the options will be yet, but my anticipation is that it will be:

a) Carcassonne
b) Head-to-head (2-players per game)
c) Turn-based (i.e. asynchronous [i.e. both players don't have to be playing at the same time, you just play your move when it's your turn and you're online, then check back next time to see if your opponent has responded - these games usually have a time limit of 3 - 5 days so you'll need to be logging into BGA quite frequently in order to make sure you complete your game before running out of time])

I haven't yet decided:

a) Expansions: BGA offers The River, Inns & Cathedrals, Traders & Builders and Princess & Dragon. Maybe we want to start small, maybe we don't. I'll include this as a voting option
b) Format: This could be single-elimination (knockout), Swiss or Round Robin. Swiss means everyone gets a set number of games and each round is drawn against an opponent with a similar win/ loss record in the tournament so far. Round Robin means everyone plays everyone else, but all games start at the same time so you'll suddenly have half a dozen games on the go which can be a bit intense.

My feeling is that probably a Swiss tournament with one, or maybe two expansions might be a good way to start. But we'll vote on it, and I'll share links to the polls below so watch this space! 8)

Once decided, I'll create the tournament and send invites via BGA to everyone in our group there.

I am a bit confused. You mentioned not necessarily a championship, but you are organising a tournament! I am not that sure what exactly do you want.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: danisthirty on July 12, 2022, 06:09:26 AM
A tournament doesn't have to be a championship! ;)

I am not that sure what exactly do you want.

I want people to enjoy themselves playing games online, and maybe even make a few friends along the way. It isn't always easy to do this if people feel isolated or don't have many boardgaming friends, so I'm hoping that by running a tournament/ series of tournaments it will help everyone (myself included) to get to know each other a bit better and have some fun. If it helps for you to think of it as a championship then I'm very happy for you to do so :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: Uhome on July 12, 2022, 06:19:24 AM
A tournament doesn't have to be a championship! ;)

I am not that sure what exactly do you want.

I want people to enjoy themselves playing games online, and maybe even make a few friends along the way. It isn't always easy to do this if people feel isolated or don't have many boardgaming friends, so I'm hoping that by running a tournament/ series of tournaments it will help everyone (myself included) to get to know each other a bit better and have some fun. If it helps for you to think of it as a championship then I'm very happy for you to do so :)

OK, I take it as having some easy and relax games. Just using the tournament function of BGA to help organise.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: danisthirty on July 12, 2022, 06:25:16 AM
OK, I take it as having some easy and relax games. Just using the tournament function of BGA to help organise.

yes, exactly this! :(y)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: Bumsakalaka on July 12, 2022, 07:03:30 AM
I was head of Carcassonne League on czech forum year ago. So here are mine suggestions:

We played every month different set of expansion to have max 100 tiles in game.

It was not possible to play turn based game in JCZ  so limit of tiles was for that reason.

Turn based game change it. So I thinalso large game can be played.

Only limit is lack of expansions on BGA when compared with JCZ.

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: Bumsakalaka on July 12, 2022, 07:14:57 AM
Mail issue is to set limits and rules what happens if match will be not played or finished.

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Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: danisthirty on July 12, 2022, 09:31:44 AM
Mail issue is to set limits and rules what happens if match will be not played or finished.

All of this is handled through BGA. To the best of my knowledge though, all games are created automatically by the tournament schedule and players are assigned to them. This happens at the scheduled start of the tournament and upon the end of each round/ start of the next round cycle.

In a turn-based game both players have a certain amount of time which might be something like 3, 4 or 5 days (I think you set this when you create the tournament) which gradually ticks down while it's your turn. Whenever you log on and play your next move, the timer moves over to the other player and their timer starts ticking down instead of yours. So typically it might involve logging into BGA half a dozen times a day and playing your next move, or sometimes if both players happen to be online at the same time the game ends up being played pseudo-synchronously (i.e. it's still an asynchronous game but both players are there playing at the same time) and is over quickly without any risk of going over time. It's then a case of waiting for the other games in this round to finish before the tournament allocates your next opponent and everyone moves on to the next round.

It IS possible for you to run out of time and for your timer to go negative and continue decreasing. The game doesn't end automatically if this happens, but your opponent can choose to kick you out of the game and get a win by default if they choose to do so. This isn't mandatory and there are no rules regarding whether this should always be expected. In other words, it depends on the player. However, the game WILL end automatically if a certain amount of time has elapsed since it began (i.e. there is a maximum game duration). If this happens, the player with the most time left will be given the win.

In this way, BGA is somewhat stricter than we used to be when we played through JCZ but this will at least ensure that everything happens in line with a pre-defined schedule and we don't have to/ can't make any allowances for those who either don't show up or don't complete their games within the allowed time. As long as everyone who signs up is willing and able to keep a keen eye on BGA for a few days at a time then I don't see this disadvantaging anyone. Another advantage with BGA is that all game results are recorded, as are the games themselves so it's possible to re-watch others' games ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: Bumsakalaka on July 12, 2022, 12:23:06 PM
Yes. Tournament are fine. Some issues was there on World Championship but regular turn based setup is fine.


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Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: danisthirty on July 20, 2022, 06:05:25 AM
Hey all. Quick update to say that as a result of the polls we will be running a Swiss-style basegame competition on BGA. 8) :(y)

I've created the tournament as a private tournament which means it won't be listed on BGAs tournament search page, but it is accessible to anyone who has the link which I've shared via my post on the CarcC BGA group which can be found here: https://www.boardgamearena.com/group?id=12347445 .

Future updates will probably be shared directly to our BGA group page rather than here so this is your final warning if this is something you think you might like to get involved in. I will however post here again in the advance of our next tournament.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central on BGA
Post by: Halfling on July 21, 2022, 02:18:57 AM
Good to have some posts on the forum for the players. It has been a while.