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General / Where are you most active online?
« on: May 24, 2021, 04:49:34 AM »
I'm curious as to how other Carcassonne Central members divide their time between here and BoardGameGeek.

I'm interested partly to know how likely I am to bump into you over on BGG (I've bumped into a few already) and partly because I'm assuming it'll reflect how central Carcassonne is to your playing/collecting - I'm guessing some are Carcassonne players/collectors only and for some (like myself) Carcassonne is one game in a wider collection.

Clarification
When considering time spent on BGG, it doesn't have to be Carcassonne related.

Edit poll amended to include all Carcassonne centric sites :(y)

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General / BGG post - known tile error in 2014 edition ?
« on: March 17, 2021, 02:19:18 PM »
An invitation for someone who knows something useful, or even definitive, to post in this BGG thread - https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/2622741/tiles-altered-between-2014-and-2017

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The Marketplace / Amazon UK Big Box < £35 delivered
« on: February 18, 2021, 04:17:46 PM »
This seems legitimate:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07R4SB8N5?smid=A30DC7701CXIBH&tag=article-geekdo-21

Is this the latest big box? (Is the latest 6?)
If so what is in here, in terms of mini expansions that I might even pick this up just to get?

Any reason to be wary do you think? At least it's Amazon so a refund should be forthcoming if it's counterfeit.

Find myself thinking I could just pop unpunched I&C and T&B in my now empty boxes and resell them to recoup most of this ...

Oh, if this is effectively advertising and hence inappropriate, my apologies! But do answer my questions before deleting! ;)

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The Marketplace / eBay profiteering
« on: December 11, 2020, 08:11:31 AM »
Excuse the clickbait title.

I recently found myself in the position of wanting to ensure I got a Spiele 2020 tile but really not needing anything else. (Except two C2 labyrinths to complete my collection.)

After a little soul searching I placed an order as below. I thought it might be of passing interest to those of us who sometimes sneer at eBay prices (myself included) to see how it played out.

3 x Labyrinths (2 x C2 for me, 1 x C2, 3 x C1 to sell)
1 x Spiele tile for me
1 x tile storage Tower for me
1 x Watchtowers to sell
1 x Festival to sell

This qualified for the 20 euro minimum order (for the Spiele tile) and, including shipping charge, was about £24 delivered to me in the UK.

I set pretty low auction start prices on eBay. Around £2 for single labyrinth tiles and £4 for the mini expansions.

The labyrinths sold for around £2.00-£2.50 with one at £3.00.
Total of eBay, Paypal and postage charges were around £1.40 for each for these.

Helpfully the Festival and Watchtowers did really well and sold for £6.50 and £12.50 respectively.
Total charges around £3.00 total for both these.   

I've rounded for the sake of simplicity, so don't check my maths too closely, but overall it worked out pretty well
Net costs to me of the items I wanted were:
Spiele tile free :)
labyrinth tiles just over £1 each
tile tower just over £2

Even so it did give me new respect for some of the eBay sellers since the multiple charges really eat into small value items. Clearly, I couldn't make a living at these prices.

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General / quirky Spiele 2020 barn combo ...
« on: November 23, 2020, 03:11:55 AM »
Playing a two handed game and just taking my turn as white with the 2020 Spiele promo tile ...

It's interesting that, because of the bridge leaving the city, this is a legal barn placement - even though at first glance it doesn't appear to be. Right now it's only worth 6* points though - it'd be nice if the 3 incomplete cities were already complete. Anyway, going to play it and see what happens.

* There's a second complete city just beyond the right edge of the image.



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Official Rules / Is a barn a meeple ?
« on: November 23, 2020, 02:57:46 AM »
Is a barn a meeple ?

Simple as that really. My overwhelming feeling is NO but I couldn't put my finger on it in WikiCarpedia and I don't want to keep the other player waiting. (I have assumed NO to keep the game going.)

I'm playing solo, two handed. ;)


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General / favourite modular combinations
« on: November 09, 2020, 06:53:01 AM »
What are your favourite modular combinations?

(What is a modular combination I hear you ask.)

I consider most of the expansions to be modular in nature. There is rarely anything in the rules that makes it necessary to include/exclude an expansion in its entirety.

As an example consider major expansion 10 - Under The Big Top - to my mind the modules are:
  • circus tiles
  • acrobat tiles
  • circus & animal tokens
  • ringmaster
I've played games with only the acrobat tiles module and it makes for an interesting addition - the points are more tempting without the bigger scoring/lower risk circus about - but of course there's still the risk of meeples getting stuck in the pyramid.
It's certainly possible to include the circus tiles without the actual circus and the animal tokens but probably not the other way around. ;)
I can see that it barely makes sense to include only the ringmaster since without any of the tiles from the expansion he effectively becomes a normal meeple. Even so, it's an option.

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General / Spiele tiles on BoardGameGeek
« on: October 27, 2020, 04:39:33 AM »
Like many of us (I guess?) I log my board game collection on BoardGameGeek (BGG).

Having placed my order for the Spiele 2020 tile I wanted to note this on my BGG collection. However, the 2020 tile doesn't yet exist on BGG.
In fact, having searched it looks as though only the 2014, 2015 and 2017 Spiele tiles are present on the BGG database.

Is anyone BGGeeky enough and motivated enough to add the missing ones?

 :)

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General / Play with expansions only - no base game
« on: October 06, 2020, 07:30:24 AM »
So, hypothetically, what would it be like to play with expansions only - no base game?

Which expansions would you combine to create a fun game?

What combination of meeples and figures? Only those in the expansions themselves or would you add in some or all of the regular meeples from the base game?

What rule problems would there be, I wonder?

If anyone has actually tried this, I for one would love to hear how it went!

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Official Rules / Phantom - just checking
« on: June 28, 2020, 10:37:39 AM »
Quote from: WikiCarpedia, paraphrasing slightly ...
The phantom can be also placed as second figure after removing a figure during the "Move Wood" phase ...

An abbot follower (The Abbot)

A follower or a special figure (The Festival)

A follower trapped by Vodyanoy or Solovei Razboynik (Russian Promos)

Now I'm pretty sure that this means a phantom can be placed on the tile just played following one of the above (as per normal rules), but - to me at least - it also kind of sounds as though it might mean that the phantom could be placed on the tile from which the other wood had just been moved ...
Please confirm.  :yellow-meeple:

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Official Rules / implications of "Order of Play"
« on: April 16, 2020, 02:24:57 PM »
I'm trying to get it clear in my mind, just how my relatively small collection of expansions interact with each other.
To help, I've been using the "Order of Play" generator at WikiCarpedia ...

Quote
2. Placing a meeple

...

Step 2B-1: Move the Wood (Phase 1)

...

(c) Deploy one of your other figures.
  • Pig to a field containing one of your meeples
  • Builder to a city or road containing one of your meeples
(d) Deploy the barn. The field will be scored as a normal feature in Step 3B.
(e) Perform a special action
  • Remove a figure from anywhere in the playing area if the festival symbol was on the played tile
  • Remove your abbot and score its points

Essentially I just want to confirm that it says what I think it does - that if I play a festival tile and choose to remove a (maybe trapped) meeple, I can't also remove my abbot? (And vice versa.)

If so, I think I've been playing incorrectly. I've been applying the simple logic of, "If you don't place a meeple, you are allowed to remove a meeple. If you don't place a meeple you can remove and score an abbot." On the rare occasions it comes up I've been treating it as permissible to do both.

So, once you've said "Yes, that's right. You can't. You've been doing it wrong!" I'll ask something else.

Since these removal(s) are described in (2) Placing A Meeple, does this mean that any meeple removed won't be around to be counted by the time we reach (3) Scoring a Feature?  Again, if that's the case, I think I have been scoring incorrectly. I have been leaving the Abbot in place and hence counting it when calculating a meeple scoring Watchtower at (3) and then removing it and claiming my 'incomplete' monastery points. But he - or any meeple removed via a Festival tile - should be removed before (3) it seems?

I've been doing that wrong too?

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The Marketplace / WTT - low value/common items
« on: April 11, 2020, 04:47:11 PM »
Hi people,

I have a feeling that mostly this subforum gets used for higher value/rarer items, but I don't have or want any of those. (If that means this doesn't really work here, then I guess I'll soon find out!)
Essentially in building up my collection, I have acquired a few things I don't need. They are:
_______
offer
3 orange meeples - shepherd, robber and messenger
3 white meeples - shepherd, robber and messenger
(Both these left over from cundco sets of 19 and are new and unused.)

6 C1 score tiles
(These sent to me in error by cundco, 50/100 Wertungsplättchen - again, new and unused and still in the card surround and little red bag that cundco use.)

1 C1 labyrinth tile
(This left over from the cundco pair of tiles and again unused.)
_______
want
You might be able to guess from this last item what I'd like - some C2 labyrinth tiles in similarly new/excellent condition. (Or perhaps other C2 single tiles, but I can't imagine that there any others that fall into the 'low value' category.)
_______

I'd be happy if everything went to one person or I could split, but I don't want to mount up the postage cost* too much - Carcassonne has had its share of my boardgame budget!

In the spirit of supporting the community (which has already supported me a good deal) I don't want anyone to worry that they have to pay "full value" (whatever that is) for the items I'm offering in C2 labyrinths. I'll be happy to know that all my bits and pieces have found a good home.

Quite happy to run an auction here in the thread (currency C2 labyrinths ;)) or you can PM me if you prefer.

* On the subject of postage I'm in the UK. If successful bidders were too (and Coronavirus was no longer an issue), we could even meet up to exchange, play and have coffee ... That seems a little sad now, because it can't happen in the near future :( . But, we'll see ...

cicerunner / Stuart

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Official Rules / forgotten meeple scoring
« on: April 04, 2020, 11:16:38 PM »
It sometimes happens that a player doesn't notice a feature being completed on a turn. As a consequence there are sometimes meeples on tiles that should have been scored and returned to their owners.

Is there an official ruling on when/how these meeples should be scored and retrieved?

If the forgotten meeple is not noticed until game end it would seem there is no choice, but to score it then, but if it is noticed while there are still tiles remaining, there seem to be two or three possible practices. Should the forgotten meeple be scored and returned:

1) Immediately, as soon as it is noticed,
2) In the next scoring phase of any player's turn
or
3) in the next scoring phase of the meeple owner's turn?

We have tended to play 3), but I'm now doubtful this is correct or even desirable.

In the absence of an official ruling what practice would seem to be most consistent with the rules? Or perhaps there is a rule covering this for tournament play?

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General / Best/Recommended House Rules
« on: March 16, 2020, 03:47:30 AM »
What are the House Rules that you use that you'd recommend to others? I am particularly interested in those you use most often, because they improve or fix something compared with the written rules.

I'm still new to Carcassonne and so I'm still experimenting and things are changing often, but these are my current ideas.
• When using the Festival I prefer to use it just for tiles, but if I'm playing with children I often allow (only) them to exercise the retrieve meeple option.
• I don't have the expansion yet, but think I will use Abbeys in a similar way, not taking one myself, but distributing them to rebalance any difference in ability.
• I've yet to actually decide on or use this, but I'm thinking of addressing the overpowered scoring in the Circus by reducing Ringmaster points to 1 per adjacent feature and removing the flea and elephant to reduce luck. (For a strategic game. Probably leaving them in when playing with children again I guess.)

But enough of my ramblings, what do you use that's actually stood the test of time?

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