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Title: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on November 30, 2020, 06:55:37 AM
Hi all,

For those unaware of what it is really going on, I will just break it for you: Christmas is coming!!! Again... So does Winter... at least in the Northern Hemisphere!

In preparation of the coming events, here at Carcassonne Central, a lot is happening behind the scenes. The Meeple Council is in session discussing whether frozen meeples should considered as Phantoms...

This is just a smoke screen, because the real agenda for today is...

The Advent Calendar Quiz MMXX

Stay tuned, because tomorrow you have a date... Ahem... a date with DESTINY!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on November 30, 2020, 07:39:21 AM
  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: DrMeeple on November 30, 2020, 08:02:07 AM
WOW! Wooaa! Can’t wait!


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Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Willem on November 30, 2020, 09:23:23 AM
Woohoo!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Bumsakalaka on November 30, 2020, 10:15:44 AM
Ah, new expansions issued, it will be difficult ;-D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: MeepleFriend on November 30, 2020, 11:04:59 AM
I'm excited!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on November 30, 2020, 12:04:52 PM
Difficult? Don't think so!!!  ;)

But wait! The Meeple Council has been interrupted all of a sudden by an unexpected visit...

- The Grinch: ...And with this all the Christmas Season will be sorted out successfully... No hassle, everybody loses...  >:D
- Santa Claus: Again, that is not the spirit!  :o
- The Grinch: And we could also add some custom til... (stops abruptly and looks angrily at the two meeples before them)
- Meepledrone: Sorry to interrupt, but we have a situation here!
- The Grinch: Meepledrone, you are the situation... You think you can do as you please???  >:D
- Meepledrone: Er... I'm so sorry... I wasn't my intention... (voice fading)
- Santa Claus: Don't be so harsh with the guy. Let him speak.
- The Grinch: Did he anything to earn our respect? Anything at all?
- Danisthirty: Well, last year, he... (interrupted)
- The Grinch: (Sharply) Last year, nothing,... This lazy meeple is always asking questions and doing nothing profitable...  >:(
- Snowman: Last summer, he also... (interrupted)
- The Grinch: (Sharply) Last summer, nothing,... Don't want to hear another word about it...
- Easter Bunny: May I go to the bathroom?
- The Grinch: NO  >:(
- Fir Tree: I am Groot!
- The Grinch: NO WAY  >:(
- Meepledrone: But...
- The Grinch: Don't you ever speak to me with your mouth open!!!  >:(
- Meepledrone: :o
- The Grinch: (Turning suddenly to Dorothy) But, look what the cat brought in... Tell me, lady meeple, what are you doing here? ;D
- The Grinch: Excuse my temper! They are like kids... Are you lost?
- Dorothy:Yes
- Gingerbread Man: Are you hungry?
- The Grinch: I wouldn't go there...  >:D
- Gingerbread Man: :o

(https://i.imgur.com/xwvTRuS.png)

- Santa Claus: You are not from around here, right?
- Dorothy: No, I'm from Kansas... from the strip where the USA West & East Maps overlap...
- Santa Claus: And how did you arrive here?
- Dorothy: I was in a Big Box 6 game and chose to use a flying machine. But something went awfully wrong.
- Easter Bunny: Oh my! the flying machine was rigged.  :o

(https://i.imgur.com/jkfDLvK.png)

- Dorothy: I would like to go back home. Will you help me?
- Snowman: But we don't know where Kansas is...
- Danisthirty: The Winter Edition is nice but you don't travel much.
- Fir Tree: I AM Groot!
- Santa Claus: We will have to find a way to help you...
- Gingerbread Man: The magic portal to go back broke down two weeks ago and we have no insurance coverage
- The Grinch: This leaves us one solution only...  >:D
- Easter Bunny: How can you be so mean? I can't believe this is happening...
- The Grinch: YES, mwahahaha!  >:D
- Meepledrone: Oh noooooo!
- Dorothy: What's happening?
- Gingerbread Man: I'm going to faint...  :o
- Santa Claus: Dorothy, you will have to follow the Yellow Brick Scoreboard.
- The Grinch: Follow it to pay a visit to the Wizard of Carcassonne in Emerald City. He is the only one who can help you so you can be back home for Christmas...
- The Grinch: No time to lose... Meepledrone, take Dorothy to the beginning of the scoreboard.
- Danisthirty: We will help you with one question a day during this long journey... You have to be ready when you meet the Wizard...
- Easter Bunny: Bon voyage!
- Snowman: Hurry up! It is now or never...
- Dorothy: Thank you all, you are very kind!
- The Grinch: Don't call me names!
- Dorothy: :o

(https://i.imgur.com/ctk1OUr.png)

What will be the outcome of this adventure? Will Dorothy get back home in time? We'll know soon.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on November 30, 2020, 12:13:00 PM
- Meepledrone: In order to help Dorothy, you will have to follow certain rules...
- Danisthirty: Here you are a brief recap of the rules for the Carcassonne Central Advent Quiz!!! An excerpt of a summary of an excerpt...

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:red-meeple: Between the 1st and 24th December I will post a small Carcassonne scoring question each day (at a random time), to which the answer will be points scored by one or more players according to the question.

:yellow-meeple: When you know the answer, don't post it on this thread! :-X Because then everyone will know, and we don't want that. Instead, send Meepledrone a PM including the question number and your answer for that day. He won't respond to your PM (please don't be offended), but if you get the answer correct you will win one or more quiz points depending on how many others have answered it correctly before you:

1st correct answer5 points
2nd correct answer4 points
3rd correct answer3 points
4th correct answer2 points
All subsequent correct answers   1 point

:green-meeple: There's no cut-off date for any particular questions so don't despair if you miss any. You can even answer all 24 questions on Christmas eve if you want, but don't expect to score big overall...

:blue-meeple: Once Christmas and boxing day are behind us, I will post the correct answers – one at a time – along with who won the big points (or indeed any points) and total scores per participant. This is where it gets really fun! :o :(y)

:black-meeple: The overall winner will be the person with the most points at the end of the quiz, but there is likely to be a small prize for everyone who answers all questions regardless of whether they manage to answer any of them correctly. It will be a surprise. O:-)

Any questions, please ask now. Otherwise, you can expect question 1 of 24 sometime on December 1st! O0

- Danisthirty: So now you know. I hired Meepledrone for menial administrative tasks. So be ready for some small Carcassonne scoring questions, one per day. The Meeple Council has already delivered and has selected 24 questions in various levels of complexity according to the number of expansions involved (from 1 to ...
- Gingerbread Man: My questions are the cutest ever!
- Danisthirty: Will you let me finish???
- Gingerbread Man: Uhmmm... OK
- Danisthirty: Were was I? Ah yes! The levels of difficulty go from 1 to 4
- The Grinch: Tsk tsk... You are wrong... I added Level 5... You will be overwhe...
- Danisthirty: Wait!! I hear your dog bark...
- The Grinch: ....OK... I'm off.
- Danisthirty: ...  ::)
- The Grinch: ...  ???
- Danisthirty: OK. Thank you for leaving! Uff...
- Snowman: (In the background) OMG! I left my Winter Edition questions outside the freezer and they melted... again...  :o
- Santa Claus: (In the background) Nooo, Not again...  >:(
- Snowman: (In the background) My rules in paper got soaked. What do I do now...?
- Santa Claus: (In the background) *Sigh* You can use WICA...  ::)
- Danisthirty: Everything is under control, I expect you all December 1st.... Ciaaaaaaoooooo!  ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Decar on November 30, 2020, 01:02:19 PM
I'm going to put 12 down for all my answers!

Hopefully meepledrone has time to adjust some of the questions, so I get a couple right  :D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on November 30, 2020, 01:16:43 PM
I will have to make an effort to conceal the rigging...  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Decar on November 30, 2020, 01:40:09 PM
Good, so long as no one has any clues, we should be ok  C:-)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Halfling on November 30, 2020, 02:33:57 PM
I definitely don't have a clue
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 01, 2020, 02:10:50 AM
Hey ! It's a first for me ! I will try my best ! And share it with my family too !  :)) O:-)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 01, 2020, 02:45:55 AM
- Meepledrone: Well, Dorothy. Are you ready for the Yellow Brick Scoreboard?
- Dorothy: Sure I am! Nothing can stop me now!!!... What should I do?  :o
- The Grinch: (in a low voice) Grieving gargoyles...!
- Meepledrone: Ahem! Along the way, the most respectable members of the Meeple Council will ask you some questions about Carcassonne scoring...
- Dorothy: Carcassonne? That rings a bell.  ???
- Gingerbread Man: A modern classic by Karl-Jürgen Wrede that has sold more than 12 million copies all over the world...
- Dorothy: Including Kansas?
- The Grinch: (sighing) Yes, including Kansas... Shall we proceed with the first question?
- Gingerbread Man: Here we go...



Question #1: The Gingerbread Man completes these two cities. How many points does Yellow score?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 01, 2020, 03:04:21 AM
Important reminder for the participants

- Danisthirty: Please send Meepledrone a PM including the question number and your answer for that day. Thank you!!!
- Gingerbread Man: Wise words!!!
- The Grinch: What for? Without the question number Chaos will reign over the land and Mayhem will...
- Snowman: Sorry, are you eating that scone?
- The Grinch: Er... No.
- Snowman: OK. Can you pass me the cheese?
- Santa Claus: Here you are...
- Dorothy: May I have some?
- The Grinch: Er... No.
- Dorothy: You are a real gentleman...  :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 02, 2020, 09:03:22 AM
- Meepledrone: (distant voice) Has anyone been messing around with the prizes?
- Dorothy: OK. Question #1 was just a warm-up, right? Is that all the Carcassonne training I can get?
- The Grinch: (distant voice approaching) What is missing?
- Snowman: Er... Nope, that's not all, young grashopper!
- The Grinch: (to Dorothy) Darling, you ain't seen nothing yet...  (pausing)
- Snowman: (melting)  :-\
- The Grinch: (angrily) I know who took it....  >:(
- Meepledrone: (running towards them) Don't tell me!
- Dorothy: Quick, today's question!!!  :o



Question #2: The Snowman completes this road. How many points does Yellow score?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 03, 2020, 09:22:10 AM
- Dorothy: What was all that fuzz about the Spiel'20 promo tile?
- Santa Claus: Well, it's part of the reward to the brave participant who helps you most in this tough quest of yours.
- Dorothy: Really?
- Santa Claus: The Grinch is a bit obsessed with that particular tile...
- Easter Bunny: Oh no! Another "MY PRECIOOOOOUSSSS" phase? Again?
- Dorothy: What?  :o
- Easter Bunny: He already ate all my Easter egg reserves for next year...  >:(
- Santa Claus: Just give him some random CRRR tile so he can gnaw on it for a while...
- Dorothy: Yuck! Not even the dragon does that...
- Easter Bunny: The Christmas Season is sooooooo stressful for him.
- Santa Claus: (gasping)  :o



Question #3: Santa Claus placed this tile wishing you the best for Christmas... How many points will score each meeple?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 03, 2020, 04:44:12 PM
- Danisthirty: Well, now it is my turn.
- Dorothy: Ohhhh! I'm thrilled! What do you have for me?
- The Grinch: (storming in) I would say pain and deception!  >:D
- Danisthirty: I see your humor has improved today.
- The Grinch: Yes, I've been piercing tokens with my teeth.
- Dorothy: (to Danisthirty) Is he like this all the time?
- Danisthirty: Bah! He is just trying to nice... more than usual!
- Fir Tree: (the wind passes)  ;)
- The Grinch: No way! No valentine cards...  :o
- Dorothy: (staring at the The Grinch) Am I missing something?
- The Grinch: Guys, you have work to do... (turning to the Fir Tree) Groot, a word! Now!  >:(



Question #4: How many points does each player score after Danisthirty places this tile?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 04, 2020, 05:27:56 AM
- Danisthirty: Ohhhh! We have company...
- Dorothy: Hello, guys!
- All Mini Meeples: Hello! Hallo! Hullo!
- Orange Mini Meeple: Hello! Who are you?
- Dorothy: I'm Dorothy! And you?
- Orange Mini Meeple: I'm Orange 5! And who is that?
- Dorothy: That is Danisthirty! He is helping me on my w... (interrupted)
- Orange Mini Meeple: No, in your arm!
- Dorothy: That's Toto, my dog.
- Orange Mini Meeple: Is it your lunch?
- Dorothy: (shocked) Nooooo!  :o
- Orange Mini Meeple: Can we then eat it?
- Danisthirty: Ahem! Kids, leave Ms. Dorothy alone... She is on an important quest!
- Orange Mini Meeple: For food?
- Red Mini Meeple: For truth?
- Blue Mini Meeple: For points?
- Yellow Mini Meeple: For love?
- Danisthirty: Kids, let her speak  ???
- Orange Mini Meeple: Okay!
- Dorothy: I'm going back home!
- Red Mini Meeple: Are you waiting for the bus?
- Orange Mini Meeple: Are you a flier?
- Green Mini Meeple: Are you friends with the fairy?
- Danisthirty:(shouting) WILL YOU PLEASE SHUT UP?  >:(
- All Mini Meeples: Oohhhhhhh!
- Danisthirty: (to Dorothy) These Mini Meeples are like savage Munchkins... Please, forgive them!
- Danisthirty: (to the Mini Meeples) Kids, she is going to see the Wizard of Carcassonne!
- All Mini Meeples: Oohhhhhhh!
- Red Mini Meeple: Are you ready for his BIG question?  >:D
- Yellow Mini Meeple: Be ready for ANYTHING!!!!  :o
- Danisthirty: Please, Yellow 3, let's all calm down a bit. We, the Meeple Council, are training Dorothy with different questions so she can get home safe and sound.  8)
- All Mini Meeples: Yes, Mr. Danisthirty!
- Danisthirty: And she will be ready for anything!
- All Mini Meeples: Yes, Mr. Danisthirty!
- Danisthirty: And she will have all the answers to get back home!
- All Mini Meeples: Yes, Mr. Danisthirty!
- Orange Mini Meeple: (to Dorothy) So you will be moving in with us soon, right?
- Dorothy:  :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Bumsakalaka on December 04, 2020, 06:16:16 AM
Last scene +1 merit ;-)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 04, 2020, 08:03:50 AM
Ha ha ha! Thank you!

I just wanted to introduce the Meeple Munchkins...  ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: oldbonz on December 04, 2020, 01:06:36 PM
Beautiful decorations Meepledrone bravo
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 04, 2020, 05:37:45 PM
- The Grinch: Mwahahaha! Finally it is my turn.
- Dorothy: Be merciful, oh evil meeple!
- The Grinch: No way! My questions will melt your wooden brain
- Dorothy: Oh, please someone save me!
- The Grinch: There is no way out! You won't see another day!!!
- Santa Claus: Ahem! Ahem! We are waiting for you!
- Dorothy: What was that?
- The Grinch: Er.... Nothing! (kicking fake Dorothy away) Shoo shoo!
- Santa Claus: Are you ready for today's question?
- The Grinch: Yes! (closing his eyes and taking a deep breath)...
- The Grinch: Mwahahaha! Finally it is my turn.
- Dorothy: Oh boy!



Question #5: The Grinch places this tile and Red's barn. How many points does each player score in this case?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 05, 2020, 02:28:06 PM
- The Grinch: Hi there, Tin Man! How is it going?
- Tin Man: Pretty cool! And you, doing fine? How was today's question?
- Dorothy: (nervously) Quite good! Quite good!
- Tin Man: OK, guys I have to keep an eye on this year's prize!
- Dorothy: Is that the Spiel'20 tile? :o
- Tin Man: Yes! No one is allowed to touch it. I'm extremely vigilant.
- The Grinch: I' so proud of you... (in a low voice) My Preciooooousssss!
- Dorothy: (staring at The Grinch) Er.... We've gotta go! Ciaoooooo!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 06, 2020, 02:24:18 AM
- Gingerbread Man: Well, Dorothy! Are you ready for a new question?
- Dorothy: (sharply) Yep! I was born ready...
- Gingerbread Man: I envy your self-confidence. I'm always fearing someone confuses me for a cookie and eats my head.
- Dorothy: Uhmmm.... Perhaps you could do something with your hair. Some bangs maybe?
- Gingerbread Man: Are you kidding me?
- Dorothy: Never! And rest assured Toto loves yummy cookies...
- Toto: Grrrrrrr!
- Gingerbread Man: What got into you two today? Oh dear!



Question #6: The Gingerbread Man completed this road. How many points does each player score?

Note: The Yellow Meeple on the tower was placed on an earlier turn.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 06, 2020, 06:02:15 AM
- Gingerbread Man: Hi, Tin Man! How was your night wat...? (stopping suddendly)
- Tin Man: Perfect! No incidents at all!
- Gingerbread Man: (unable to cover his mouth) Holy morsels!!! Are...Are you... sure?
- Dorothy: (shrieking) AAAAHHHHH!
- Gingerbread Man: What happened?  :o
- Tin Man: What's up? Didn't move for hours! Oh no! Morning dew, rusted joints... again!
- Dorothy: The tile! THE TILE!!!!  :o
- Danisthirty: (approaching) Why are you so upset? He is a really nice guy!!!  ^-^
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 06, 2020, 03:25:16 PM
- Snowman: Did you hear?
- Santa Claus: Yes! It's been a shock for all of us.
- Danisthirty: I feel flattered! My tile is now on a prominent place... Shall we talk about rules for it? You can see KJW's signature from anywhere. So cool!  :))
- Dorothy: What shall we do then?
- The Grinch: (sobbing uncontrollably in the distance) My preciouuuusssss!!! My preciouuuusssss!!! Where are you???
- Snowman: For the time being, we have to continue with the plan.... next question!




Question #7: The Snowman just placed this tile triggering the scoring of the big top. How many points does each player receive?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 08, 2020, 07:00:16 AM
- Santa Claus: I hope The Grinch recovers from the shock soon.
- Dorothy: Poor thing!
- Fir Tree: I AM Groot!
- Easter Bunny: Yes, we all know he will be okay in a couple of days... A few Halfling snacks and back to normal...
- Dorothy: What is normal for him?
- Santa Claus: Grumpy in the morning, insufferable in the afternoon, impossible in the evening... The usual
- Fir Tree: (A bird chirps)
- Easter Bunny: That too... Ha ha ha!
- Dorothy: I see... You appreciate him in the end, right?
- Santa Claus: (Nervously) We signed an NDA. Our lips are sealed.  :-X
- Fir Tree: (Shaking one branch)  :(
- Easter Bunny: Stop right there, young sprout. Having no lips is not an excuse...
- Dorothy: I would have preferred to stay in the dark. Really!  :-\



Question #8: Santa Claus places this tile and completes the road. Check the active scoring tile for roads. How many points does each player receive?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 08, 2020, 04:15:15 PM
- Danisthirty: Hi there! Ready for one more question?
- Dorothy: Geez, Mr. Thirsty! You are gonna make my wooden brain burst...
- Danisthirty: Do you prefer something else?
- Fir Tree: (The breeze brings a festive tune)  >:D
- Dorothy: And how are our bold participants doing?
- Decar: The Hobbit is keeping me busy!
- Oldbonz: Très bien !
- Wolnic: I'm scratching my head all the time.
- Murphy013:  Ich denke Meepledrone ist verrückt
- DrMeeple: Ya te digo, me trae por la calle de la amargura...
- All Participants: (indistinct chatter)
- Meepledrone: ENOUGH! Stop whining people!  >:(
- Dorothy: (caressing Meepledrone's arm) You are such a brave... robot?!?
- Meepledrone: (dumping after stack overflow) Buzz Whizz Buzzz!  :o
- Danisthirty: OK, OK. Shall we continue... while this guy reboots?  :-\



Question #9: Danisthirty completed this magnificent city. Check the current scoring tile for cities. How many points does each player score?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 09, 2020, 05:42:02 AM
Important reminder for the participants

- Meepledrone: No large meeple was used in Question #9 (or in any other to avoid any possible confusion). It may seem so due to the perspective in this case.
- Danisthirty: I am a full grown meeple. I am the same size as a large meeple, that is, 19mm high.
- Meepledrone: By the way, you can always send your answers to questions from previous days.
- Danisthirty: That's right! If you forgot, you spotted a mistake or you changed your mind, do not hesitate to send Meepledrone a new answer.
- Meepledrone: Yes, I'll be delighted to process them all... (whispering) for a good salary bump!
- Danisthirty: Come again!  ???
- Meepledrone: Gotta go! I have to take Toto to the nail salon...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 10, 2020, 06:50:58 AM
- Dorothy: I'm glad to see your back on your feet.
- The Grinch: Why?
- Dorothy: I heard you were indisposed these past few days...
- The Grinch: Nonsense! Don't play attention to rumors...
- Santa Claus:  :o
- Dorothy: I heard you sob for hours...
- The Grinch: Ahhhh, thaaaat... Bah!
- Santa Claus: Everyone heard you!
- The Grinch: I was helping Decar with a personal project: 24h of music inspired by Tolken...
- Santa Claus: (skeptically) Really?
- The Grinch: Yes! I was rehearsing "Gollum's song"...
- Dorothy: If you say so... for more than 48 hours... non-stop
- The Grinch: You know... I'm devoted to my... friends  ;D
- Dorothy: Ahaaaa!... I see...  ???
- The Grinch: (Rubbing his hands) OK. Enough smalltalk... Pay attention to my next question...  >:D



Question #10: How many points does each player score after The Grinch completed this road?

Note: Let's use the advanced variant rules for the Labyrinth!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on December 10, 2020, 09:19:09 AM
sorry I'm daltonic ,are players red and yellow and blue or also green?Ican't distinguish between red and green
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 10, 2020, 09:23:23 AM
Hi davide,

There are no green meeples. There are red, yellow and blue. Do you need me to tag them?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on December 10, 2020, 09:28:59 AM
no.thank's you very much!!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 10, 2020, 09:36:16 AM
I avoid green meeples just in case...

Hope that blue, yellow and red are okay for everyone...  ???
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Bumsakalaka on December 10, 2020, 11:36:43 AM
It's funny, because this play are playing 5 different players and we only know that red color is used by The Grinch;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 10, 2020, 12:24:33 PM
- The Grinch: The colors are not assigned to us
- Santa Claus: We just place the last tile on behalf of a player...
- The Grinch: (interrupting) We do the hard work, you know  8)
- Santa Claus: (continuing) ...who maybe prefers to stay anonymous
- The Grinch: We live vicariously through others...  ::)
- Meepledrone: Hey! I'm the one doing the heavy lifting here! You just pose for the picture and sign autographs for the Mini Meeples! >:(
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 11, 2020, 11:28:59 AM
- Gingerbread Man: (grooving to disco music) Yeeeeaaaaahhhh!!!
- Gingerbread Man: Today the flooooor is miiiiine!
- Orange Mini Meeple: Doooo dooo ahhhhh!
- Gingerbread Man: All MIIIINE!!!
- Gingerbread Man and Orange Mini Meeple: Doooo dooo ahhhhh!
- Dorothy: Hello?
- Gingerbread Man: Today the flooooor is miiiiine!
- Gingerbread Man: All MIIIINE!!!
- Gingerbread Man: Let me beeeeee the coookie of your dreams!!!
- Gingerbread Man and Orange Mini Meeple: Surrender!!! surrender!!!
- Gingerbread Man: Yeeeeaaaaahhhh!!
- Dorothy: (singing along) Do you have a question for meeeeee?
- Gingerbread Man: Why do yoooooou doubt meeeeee? Whyyyyy?
- Dorothy: (singing along) Because you seeeeeem somewhaaaaat distracteeeeed todaaaaaay?!!!
- Orange Mini Meeple: (doing the abbot) Karaoke night can't waaaaait!
- Gingerbread Man and Orange Mini Meeple: Join uuuuus! Joooooooooin UUUUUUSSSSS!
- Dorothy: (shaking her hips) Gimme gimme gimme a question fiiiiirst!!!!
- Gingerbread Man:  (moonwalking) You got it! You got it! You got it!
- Orange Mini Meeple: Dig it, sisteeeerrrr!



Question #11: The Gingerbread Man closed this city. How many points does Yellow score?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 11, 2020, 05:27:37 PM
- The Grinch: What a night!
- Fir Tree: I am GROOT!
- Snowman: How can you say that?
- Dorothy: The Gingerbread Man was kicking ass at the karaoke place?
- Fir Tree: (an owl hoots twice) ;D
- The Grinch: No mercy! Those meddling Mini Meeples deserve it! Their ears must be burning by now...
- Snowman: Fir Tree, you have to teach me how you do that whistling thing!!!
- Dorothy: How disgusting! It's a pity the dragon traveled south on vacation!
- Snowman: Leave it alone! It gives me the shivers!
- The Grinch: I'd love to be in your icy shoes to know how it feels...
- Snowman: (shuddering) ???
- Dorothy: You really have a knack for upsetting people, right? I admire that!
- The Grinch: (gasping) :o
- Snowman: Toto! Please leave Fir Tree alone!
- Snowman: (to Dorothy) Can you do something about it?
- Dorothy: Why should I? It's not chewing anyone's arm this time!
- Snowman: Poor Orange Mini Meeple!
- Dorothy: He was asking for it. He will sing in tune next time...
- The Grinch: You are reaaaaally something!
- Dorothy: You know nothing, Grinch Snow! You know nothing!
- The Grinch: (staring at Dorothy)  :o
- Fir Tree: (a twig cracks the silence)  >:D
- Snowman: (staring at Dorothy too) Er... Shall... we proceed with the next question?



Question #12: The Snowman places this tile, which completes a road connected to Leipzig through a village. It is Red's turn, who would like to send his meeple to Leipzig, to the Wainwrights quarter. How many points does each player score?

Note: You may assume the Fairy was placed in the current turn or in a previous one. No problem.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on December 12, 2020, 01:22:35 AM


Question #12: The Snowman places this tile, which completes a road connected to Leipzig through a village. It is Red's turn, who would like to send his meeple to Leipzig, to the Wainwrights quarter. How many points does each player score?

I think this question should be corrected.
It is impossible to have the red meeple and the fairy together on the just placed tile.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 12, 2020, 01:54:10 AM


Question #12: The Snowman places this tile, which completes a road connected to Leipzig through a village. It is Red's turn, who would like to send his meeple to Leipzig, to the Wainwrights quarter. How many points does each player score?

I think this question should be corrected.
It is impossible to have the red meeple and the fairy together on the just placed tile.

- Snowman: You see? I'm glad Vital Pluymers was paying attention.
- Meepledrone: No harm done... in any case.
- Snowman: You know that Red 4 is always looking for attention.
- Meepledrone: Yes, sir!
- Snowman: And you see that when the Fairy is next to him, he thinks he's entitled to anything! Yes, the dragon is one thing but the rules have their limits!
- Meepledrone: Yes, sir!
- Fairy: Will you please shut up? We are busy here...
- Red Meeple: Going to Leipzig is not a piece of cake.
- Meepledrone: Come on! We all saw you at the the karaoke place... Move to the adjacent tile. NOW!
- Red Meeple: OK! OK!
- Fairy: Layer up, Red... These guys are up to something!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Bumsakalaka on December 12, 2020, 08:49:41 AM


Well but it matters if fairy is placed in previous turn or in current!

Odoslané z SM-A202F pomocou Tapatalku

Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 12, 2020, 09:10:00 AM
- The Grinch: The smoke screen is working perfectly...
- Dorothy: You are soooo evil! How much did pay Red 4?
- The Grinch: A villain never reveals his plans... unless the trapped hero has an opportunity to escape.  >:D
- Dorothy: :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on December 12, 2020, 09:18:45 AM


Well but it matters if fairy is placed in previous turn or in current!

Odoslané z SM-A202F pomocou Tapatalku
It doesn't  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 12, 2020, 09:27:26 AM
- Meepledrone: I'm considering both options for Fairy as valid, since the question didn't include any specifics about it.
- The Grinch: If you are so magnanimous, we will fire you sooner than later.  >:D
- Meepledrone: No problem! I know for sure you can take care of the quiz on your own...  ;D
- The Grinch:  :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Bumsakalaka on December 12, 2020, 12:11:42 PM


Well but it matters if fairy is placed in previous turn or in current!

Odoslané z SM-A202F pomocou Tapatalku
It doesn't  ;)
I guess yes but we will see...

Odoslané z SM-A202F pomocou Tapatalku

Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: 6ruoge4 on December 12, 2020, 12:58:14 PM
Do double Leipzig market tiles on completing a monastery count as one or two tiles? I ask this question because I find a contradiction between what is expressed on Wikicarpedia and carcopedia 1.7. Should it be treated like the German castles of the new version, thus counting as two separate tiles?
For street counting it is clearly indicated that it counts as a card.
6ruoge4
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 12, 2020, 01:35:52 PM
- Meepledrone: Carcopedia 1.7 is reflects the latest official clarifications from 10/2015. WICA uses the same approach for the C1 pages (you count tiles) and uses the 2020 update for monasteries (and German castles for the sake of consistency) derived from the latest Halfling rules (you count occupied spaces).
- Meepledrone: Bottomline: You can use the approach you prefer. Off the record, I personally and robotically prefer the C1 approach since it is more consistent, that is, there are no special cases during scoring as in C2. ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on December 12, 2020, 03:23:44 PM


Well but it matters if fairy is placed in previous turn or in current!

Odoslané z SM-A202F pomocou Tapatalku
It doesn't  ;)
I guess yes but we will see...

Odoslané z SM-A202F pomocou Tapatalku
I have to admit that you were right  :)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 13, 2020, 09:27:40 AM
- Tin Man: Yes, I spent the night watching over the tile.
- Lion: Inspector, the witness is here!
- Scarecrow: Good evening! Thank you for stopping by.
- Tin Man: No problem. Anything I can help... (interrupted)
- Scarecrow: Liar! You stole the tile!!!  >:(
- Tin Man:  :o
- Lion: You replaced it with a replica of the portrait from the Meeple Council Hall...
- Tin Man: How could have I done it?... I've paralyzed for 3 days.
- Scarecrow: How do you explain it was robbed while you where standing next to it?
- Lion: You have an ACCOMPLICE!
- Tin Man: WHAAAT?
- Scarecrow: We found this green ribbon next to the tile!!!
- Lion: Confess! It's YOURS...
- Tin Man: Yes, I use it to decorate my axe. How could you tell?  >:D ... COME ON!
- Scarecrow: It must have fallen from his pocket....
- Tin Man: Pocket? What pocket?  ???
- Lion: I suspect that this guy is a heartless bandit.
- Tin Man: And you are a brainless scarecrow and you a cowardly lion!
- Scarecrow:  Is our cover is blown?
- Lion: (shaking) :o

Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 13, 2020, 09:46:57 AM
- Dorothy: What is all that fuzz?
- Snowman: The police officers are questioning Tin Man.
- Santa Claus: Who? Scarecrow and Lion?
- Snowman: Yep...
- Santa Claus: This is a cold cose in the making! Time to time!
- Dorothy: Do they really suck that much?
- Snowman: :-X
- Santa Claus: :-X
- Dorothy: Okaaaaay, let's see todays's question!



Question #13: Santa Claus places this tile. What is the highest number of points each player can score after deploying meeples from the city of Carcassonne? Just in case anyone is interested, it is Yellow's turn.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 14, 2020, 10:33:27 AM
- Danisthirty: What did you learn yesterday?
- Dorothy: Uhmmm... That the Count is very shy?
- Danisthirty: ::)
- The Grinch: Mwahahaha! Not a chance.
- Dorothy: Was he playing hide and seek?
- Danisthirty: NOOOO... Didn't he?  ???
- The Grinch: Someone bribed him...  >:D
- Dorothy: How could you tell?
- The Grinch: He spent the whole day in the cathedral praying for forgiveness I daresay!
- Danisthirty: Come on!
- The Grinch: The castle or market districts are far more fun!  8)
- Dorothy: I think you are making it all up!
- Danisthirty: You doubt it?  ;)
- The Grinch: I love to sow the seeds of doubt in your little wooden heads.  >:D
- Dorothy: (to Danisthirty) This is a dejà vu, right?  ???
- The Grinch: (Storming away) This is intolerable! I'm off... Some Meeple Meeples need to be kicked in their butts, both front and back. >:(
- Danisthirty: Now we recovered our inner peace for a while, let's see the next question!
- Dorothy: Are you ready, Toto?



Question #14: After Danisthirty places this tile, how many points does each player score, if any?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 15, 2020, 06:46:54 AM
- The Grinch: Well, well, well!
- Fir Tree: (a bird chirps)
- The Grinch: ???
- Dorothy: What's up?
- The Grinch: The Fir Tree just got a tweet!
- Dorothy: How is that unusual?
- The Grinch: Really?... I see, you are also on Instaplant and Plantagram, right?
- Dorothy: Nope, on Treenstagram!
- The Grinch: :o
- Dorothy:  8)
- The Grinch: This reminds me I have a message for you!  >:D
- Dorothy: (in a low voice) I feel nothing good may come from this...



Question #15: The Yellow Messenger landed on a dark space. As a result, Yellow  receives the message shown by
The Grinch. How many points does Yellow score for this message when applied to this feature?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 16, 2020, 10:59:52 AM
- Dorothy: Hello, officers!
- Scarecrow: Identify yourself!
- Lion: Hello, Dorothy!
- Scarecrow: Do you know her?
- Lion: Yes, she invited us to cookies yesterday.
- Scarecrow: Sure? I'm very good at remembering faces. ???
- Snowman: Seeing is believing.  :o
- Dorothy: Crispy crackers!... Er... Any news about the missing tile?
- Scarecrow: Yes!
- Lion: No!
- Scarecrow: We know nothing yet... (to Lion) Keep looking over there, I will look around here.
- Lion: OK... Hope I don't find any fleas. They are soooo scary. Ciao!
- Snowman: This is so reassuring...  :-\
- Dorothy: Indeed, indeed...



Question #16: The Snowman places this abbey on behalf of Blue. How many points does each player score?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: oldbonz on December 16, 2020, 11:09:31 AM
is there a specific rule for spiel tiles?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Carcassonne93 on December 16, 2020, 11:52:43 AM
The red meeple is a big meeple?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 16, 2020, 12:57:52 PM
- Meepledrone: Thanks for your question. No big meeples were involved in this question.
- Red 2: Why do people think I'm bigger than I really am?
- Meepledrone: I don't know. How old are you?
- Red 2: :-X
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 17, 2020, 02:06:01 AM
- Yellow Robber: This is not fair.
- Red Messenger: Yes, we feel discriminated.
- Santa Claus: What's wrong with you today?
- Dorothy: But if you are the protagonists today!  ;D
- Red Robber: Yes, at last. We have an opportunity to shine.
- Santa Claus: That's the spirit!  :(y) :(y)
- Yellow Robber: Well, they all look at us with suspicion.
- Red Robber: We work part time... an get only half of what we are entitled to.  :(
- Yellow Robber: Yes, but rounded up.
- Dorothy: Ohhhhhh... That makes a big difference.
- Red Messenger: Otherwise, the would go empty handed with the fairy point!
- Santa Claus: Well, guys! Therapy time is up. Remember, next time we will discuss messages and dark spaces.
- Red Messenger: (in tears) Thank you. Thank you!
- Dorothy: (to Santa Claus) I see, even special figures on the scoreboard deserve to let some steam out.
- Santa Claus: Yes. The scoreboard is a lonely place without a view. Thank you for your support.
- Dorothy: Any time.



Question #17: Santa Claus places this tile. How will manage Red and Yellow to be robbed the least points possible? How many points will each player score?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Carcassonne93 on December 17, 2020, 07:58:39 AM
Whose turn is it? In other words, the messages should be considered?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 17, 2020, 08:14:58 AM
- Meepledrone: I'm not interested in the reception of messages in this case. Take your pick! Only the current scoring.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 17, 2020, 03:11:15 PM
For the French user, I'm editing a PDF of this wonderful quiz... Find it there :
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532
I'll try to update each day... ;)

Edit : sorry for the unnecessary notification !  :-[
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 17, 2020, 03:54:27 PM
Ha ha ha!

Things don't end on day 24... The answers will follow...  :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 18, 2020, 11:35:08 AM
- Lion: Mr. Danisthirty, where were you the night of?
- Danisthirty: I was on BGA, playing a game against The Grinch! I won!  ;D
- Scarecrow: Any expansions?
- Danisthirty: How is that relevant?  :-\
- Scarecrow: Very!
- Danisthirty: The Flea and the Dragon! I was eaten 4 times. :'(
- Dorothy:  ???
- Lion: That's.... terrifying!!
- Scarecrow: By fire or by the plague?
- Danisthirty: Neither, I was burnt at the stake once... bitten by snakes... and beheaded twice... I would have preferred to be chewed up by the dragon but...
- Lion: (speechless) :o
- Scarecrow: (speechless) :o
- Dorothy: (whispering) You are making this all up, right?
- Danisthirty: (whispering) Yep... They were asking for it...  >:D
- Danisthirty: Officers, do you want to see my scars?
- Lion: (gasping for air) :o
- Scarecrow: (still speechless) :o
- Dorothy: I think they are in shock!
- Danisthirty: (clicking his tongue) They were not ready for this.
- Lion: (still speechless) :o
- Scarecrow: (soft gurggling) :o
- Danisthirty: Let's get back to work while they pull themselves together...



Question #18: Danisthirty places a tile that completes two road networks. How many points does each player receive?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Carcassonne93 on December 18, 2020, 01:56:58 PM
I assume that the blue meeple is not a big meeple and the yellow meeple is placed on road.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 18, 2020, 03:07:57 PM
- Meepledrone: Correct. No large meeples where involved in this winding and tunneled question...
- Meeple Mole: Finally we, the Meeple Moles, can claim we pushed the limits of road connectivity underground and overground!  O0
- Dorothy: Did you build the bridge yourself?
- Meeple Mole: Certainly! Of course! Do you like it?
- Dorothy: Er... Yes, yes, the views must be terrific...
- Meepledrone: And the monks below must be overjoyed... So peaceful spot... So shadowy...  ;)
- Meeple Mole: I'm as happy as a hobbit...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 18, 2020, 05:15:13 PM
- The Grinch: Hi there, Gingerbread Man!
- Gingerbread Man: Don't talk so loud, please!
- The Grinch: We missed you on day 16. What happened?  >:D
- Dorothy: He's been partying for a week!  >:(
- Gingerbread Man: Shhhh!
- The Grinch:  I see... You are lucky we filled in for you and nobody noticed. The Snowman did a great job and we followed suit!
- Gingerbread Man: I won't miss my next turn. I promise! :-[
- Lion: (approaching with Tin Man) Hi there, My People!
- The Grinch: Hello officer! What brings you here?
- Lion: I'm taking the suspect into custody to the German castle.  C:-)
- Tin Man: (to the other meeples) Oh, please, help me! I'm innocent!
- The Grinch: Sorry my sense of justice is a bit rusty these days!
- Dorothy: Don't be so soft on him! He is a criminal!
- Lion: No presumption of innocence in Kansas, right?  ???
- Dorothy: What's that? (to Tin Man) The Pencil Sharpener of Death is too good for you!
- Lion: (faints) :o
- Gingerbread Man: Come on, run for your life!
- Tin Man: I can't. :(
- Dorothy: Don't move! You'll be reduced to shreds for Christmas!  >:D
- Gingerbread Man: Plead for mercy to the Wizard of Carcassonne. Hurry, no time to lose!
- Tin Man: (running away) :'(
- Dorothy: (to The Grinch) And you should toughen up! Let's see what question you had for today!  >:(
- The Grinch: :o



Question #19: The Grinch completes this road. How many points does Red scores if the Fairy was placed next to the meeple this turn? The Fairy was by the scoreboard previously.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 19, 2020, 07:13:54 AM
For the French user, I'm editing a PDF of this wonderful quiz... Find it there :
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532
I'll try to update each day... ;)
Updated... Don't forget to send your answer(s) by MP to Meepledrone ! ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 19, 2020, 07:44:17 AM
- Meepledrone: Well, Dorothy, what do you think of all this?
- Dorothy: (with a distracted French accent) Pardon ?
- Gagoune: Ahem... que pensez-tu de tout cela ?
- Dorothy: Je suis tellement heureuse. Je pensais ne jamais quitter le Kansas et maintenant je voyage à travers le monde et je parle de nouvelles langues...
- Meepledrone: You are a media star now. ;D
- Dorothy: (giggling) Que puis-je demander d'autre ?  ^-^
- Gagoune: Je ne savais pas que tu parlais français.
- Dorothy: Me neither...  :o

Later...

- Meepledrone: Hey, Gagoune! I just wanted to tell you this is an incredible work.
- Gagoune: Thanks!
- Meepledrone: Do you use a Meeple drone to record everything is happening? I'm intrigued.
- Gagoune:  :o
- Meepledrone: By the way, please, check Day 10, third line by Dorothy...
- Gagoune: Oooops!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: DrMeeple on December 19, 2020, 11:47:04 AM
Hahaha what happen to you Grinch?? Are you getting softer??  >:D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 19, 2020, 03:35:31 PM
- Meepledrone: Well, Dorothy, what do you think of all this?
- Dorothy: (with a distracted French accent) Pardon ?
- Gagoune: Ahem... que pensez-tu de tout cela ?
- Dorothy: Je suis tellement heureuse. Je pensais ne jamais quitter le Kansas et maintenant je voyage à travers le monde et je parle de nouvelles langues...
- Meepledrone: You are a media star now. ;D
- Dorothy: (giggling) Que puis-je demander d'autre ?  ^-^
- Gagoune: Je ne savais pas que tu parlais français.
- Dorothy: Me neither...  :o

Later...

- Meepledrone: Hey, Gagoune! I just wanted to tell you this is an incredible work.
- Gagoune: Thanks!
- Meepledrone: Do you use a Meeple drone to record everything is happening? I'm intrigued.
- Gagoune:  :o
- Meepledrone: By the way, please, check Day 10, third line by Dorothy...
- Gagoune: Oooops!

- Gagoune: Thanks ! It's corrected, now !... with a few other mistakes... Happily, nobody else has seen !  O:-)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 20, 2020, 04:18:11 AM
- Dorothy: What are you doing? Back on your feet?
- Gingerbread Man: Yes, I'm fine. Thanks!... I'm watching a Meeple Geographic documentary? Carcassonne Maps - Germany....
- Dorothy: Ooooh! I see the printed tile with Munich! So cool!
- Gingerbread Man: That is where it all started.
- Dorothy: So exciting! Have you you meet Klaus-Jürgen Wrede?
- Gingerbread Man: No.
- Dorothy: And Bernd Brunnhofer?
- Gingerbread Man: No...  :-\
- Dorothy: And Moritz Brunnhofer?
- Gingerbread Man: No...  :(
- Orange Mini Meeple: Have you met the dragon?  >:D
- Gingerbread Man: No... I'm specialized in the Winter Edition.
- Yellow Mini Meeple: We can call him... What's the address?
- Gingerbread Man: Don't be rude, why?  >:(
- Blue Mini Meeple: We want to know what happens with that monastery on the border...
- Red Mini Meeple: ...and you two are just blocking the screen...
- Orange Mini Meeple: ...and chatting and chatting non-stop...
- Gingerbread Man: (turning to Danisthirty) :o
- Danisthirty: Nothing to add!... (to Orange Mini Meeple) Can you pass me the pop corn?  O:-)



Question #20: Gingerbread Man and Dorothy are also intrigued with this monastery just completed on the border. How many points does Red score for it?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: oldbonz on December 20, 2020, 04:52:14 AM
not everyone has this extension, is there a rule
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 20, 2020, 05:04:50 AM
- Meepledrone: Haven't you checked on WICA? You can find the rules even in French:  :o

https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Basic_Rules/fr (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps_-_Basic_Rules/fr)

- The Grinch: Why are you helping them?
- Meepledrone: Well, this is not rocket science...
- Gingerbread Man: Are you implying my question is too easy?
- Fir Tree: I AM Groot!
- Gingerbread Man: Then it is settled! Tomorrow at noon!  >:(
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 20, 2020, 06:19:24 PM
- Snowman: (reading) "From Russia with love!"
- Gingerbread Man: What's that?
- Snowman: An anonymous letter!
- Gingerbread Man: Who is it for?
- Snowman: For officer Scarecrow! Here... (giving letter to Scarecrow)
- Scarecrow: (mouthing while reading)
- Lion: What does it say?
- Scarecrow: (reading slowly) "The Gingerbread Man is guilty! Seize him. Yours, Baba Yaga"
- Lion: Is that anonymous?  ???
- Scarecrow: (shouting) The Gingerbread Man is guilty! Seize him!!!  >:(
- Dorothy: Oh boy! How did you reach that conclusion?
- Gingerbread Man: (stammering) I... I... I...  :o
- Lion: So you were the Tin Man's accomplice.
- Dorothy: Really, Baba Yaga? And you believe that?
- Gingerbread Man: (stammering) But... She... Wednesday...  :o
- Dorothy: (to Snowman) Where did you get that from?
- Snowman: I don't know... Someone must have left it stuck in the back of my neck while I was in my beauty freezing session.
- Lion: Let's powder it. Maybe it has some meeple arm prints on it. We have to take the letter to the lab right now.
- Scarecrow: (whispering) Are you sure?
- Lion: (whispering back) No! But it sounded very professional.
- Dorothy: You should be certain before making any accusations...
- Scarecrow: (to Gingerbread Man) In any case, do no leave town. You are a suspect now.
- Lion: (muttering) Hurry up!
- Scarecrow: Bye... Ahem... Byeeeee!

Scarecrow and Lion walk away...

- Scarecrow: What was all that about?
- Lion: The letter... it's your handwriting.
- Scarecrow: Whaaaat? :o



Question #21: The Snowman places a tile that completes the road occupied by Yellow. How many points does each player score?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 22, 2020, 12:01:38 PM
- Santa Claus: Let me disclose today's questi...
- The Grinch: Come on, we don't have all day for this!  >:(
- Dorothy: Be a little patient, ok?
- The Grinch: (to the meeples approaching) Hello, hello... (to Santa Claus) Take your time. Take your time...
- (Green) Dorothy: (approaching) Procrastinating again?
- (Magenta) Dorothy: (coming along) Come on, don't be so hard on them!

(https://i.imgur.com/svb7oo1.png)

- The Grinch: Dorothy in green? Dorothy in magenta?  :o
- Scarecrow: Dorothy, how did you...? :o
- Lion: (faints)  :o
- Santa Claus: Frozen tokens! What...?   :o
- Dorothy: (to Dorothy) You again, impostor?  >:(
- Scarecrow: Who is the real one?
- Dorothy: I'm the real Dorothy from Kansas!
- (Magenta) Dorothy: No, I'm the real Dorothy from München. And I loooooove strong meeples.
- (Green) Dorothy: Enough! We are here to stop you, Dorothy! You must not see the Wizard!  C:-)
- Scarecrow: Why?
- Dorothy: I want to go back home!
- (Green) Dorothy: You want the truth?
- (Magenta) Dorothy: We are infiltrated secret agents...
- Santa Claus: Meeple Intelligence? MI6?  ???
- (Green) Dorothy: Mwahahahah! And you believed that??? Hahahaha! Gullible meeples!!!  >:D
- (Green) Dorothy: (removing her disguise) I'm am the Wicked Witch of the West!...  (to The Grinch) And I'm your mother!!!
- The Grinch: But... but... but...  :o
- (Magenta) Dorothy: Mwahahahah! And we can rule together over Carcassonne... (removing her disguise) Grinch, I am your father!!!
- The Grinch: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!  :o :o :o
- Frankie Stein / ex-(Magenta) Dorothy: (to the Wicked Witch of the West) Was it dramatic enough, evil mine?
- Wicked Witch of the West / ex-(Green) Dorothy: Yes, my monstrous husband!

(https://i.imgur.com/3wkb82l.png)

- The Grinch: I... I... I... was imported from Florida...
- Wicked Witch of the West: Look into your wooden heart... That evil in you comes from an ancient lineage...
- Frankie Stein: We have come back to finish your training.
- Wicked Witch of the West: We been watching you... and all these... miserable meeples! Nothing naughty can come from them. >:D
- Frankie Stein: Come with us!
- The Grinch: Will you teach me how to win always no matter what?
- Wicked Witch of the West: YEEEES! And always with cheeto fingers...
- Frankie Stein: Tiles taste niceeeeer! :P
- Wicked Witch of the West: You will... (interrupted)

A house falls from the sky and crushes the Wicked Witch of the West with a great blast:

(https://i.imgur.com/ZYg72Yp.png)

- Frankie Stein: (coughing) Crippled Meeples! My bitter WWW, are you okay?
- Wicked Witch of the West: (speaking slowly with muffled voice) What do you think? My face itches and I can't scratch me...
- Scarecrow: (shaking off the dust) I would say that is normal in our case but... (interrupted)
- The Grinch: Mother, MOTHER! Somebody call a doctor!
- Dorothy: How did my house from Kansas... end up here?  :o
- Lion:  (pulling himself together after the blast) Look!
- Scarecrow: What's up?  ???
- Lion: Her red slippers are gone! And there is another green ribbon instead!
- Santa Claus: Can anybody help me get her from under that farmhouse?
- Wicked Witch of the West: (with muffled voice) Wait! This plumbling needs some fixing badly!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 22, 2020, 01:15:30 PM
- Santa Claus: I'm still in shock!
- Dorothy: Yes, I should had known. The plumbing... (interrupted)
- Santa Claus: NOOOO. I was talking about this wave of robberies...  :(
- Dorothy: Ahem... sorry... yes. It's baffling... In plain sight.
- Santa Claus: I hope officers Scarecrow and Lion can solve this singular case...
- Dorothy: Well, let's see that question you had for me.  ::)



Question #22: The game ended. How many points does each player score in this scenario Santa Claus has put together for you?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 23, 2020, 12:31:26 PM
- Danisthirty: Well, this is my last question! Hope you enjoy it...
- Dorothy: WHAAAT? That is the stolen Spiel'20 tile!!!  :o
- Red Mini Meeple: Yes! :))
- Yellow Mini Meeple:  It is soooo coool!
- Danisthirty: We found it!  :(y) :(y)
- Blue Mini Meeple: Do you want to know how we found it? >:D
- Orange Mini Meeple: We used all our deduction skills.
- Yellow Mini Meeple: We analyzed all the clues available.
- Red Mini Meeple: We even perused the Yellow Pages phone book cover to cover! 8)
- Dorothy: How's that? :o
- Blue Mini Meeple: We were bored to death...  :'(
- Danisthirty: Ahem, ahem!... To say truth, I was teaching these little rascals how to count tiles...
- Orange Mini Meeple: And I asked about hills!  ^-^
- Danisthirty: So we went to the scenario from Day 5 and we found the stolen tile hidden face down underneath the hill.
- Blue Mini Meeple: Cool, huh?
- Dorothy: Did you call the officers?
- Yellow Mini Meeple: Yes, we did it a while ago, but officer Scarecrow picked up the phone...
- Red Mini Meeple: (all giggling) We all know what that means...
- Danisthirty: Kids, please... >:(
- Blue Mini Meeple: Perhaps do you think they'll find the culprit for all this mess, mister?
- Danisthirty: (automatic response) No!...  :o ... (Not very convinced) Er!... I mean... yes... They could really use some help... :-\
- Dorothy: At least the stolen tile is back... The participants will get their prize in the end.  ;D
- Red Mini Meeple: That's awesome!!!... Can we get over with the question, please? Come ooooon.... We want to play Dragon-Meeple-Fairy! (1)
- Yellow Mini Meeple: Best idea ever! ^-^

(1) See the rules of fan expansion Santa, Snowman & Grinch, page 6:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=395 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=395)



Question #23: Danisthirty put together this final-scoring scenario for you. How many points does each player score?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: cicerunner on December 24, 2020, 03:40:27 AM
Hi davide,

There are no green meeples. There are red, yellow and blue. Do you need me to tag them?

Cheers!
I wondered about this too - if green or red or both were present - in earlier questions too.
Good to know as ever that Meepledrone is looking after us all.
+1 merit from me for remembering to account for colourblindness.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 24, 2020, 06:24:59 AM
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Welcome to the oracle of THE WIZARD OF CARCASSONNE!
- Lion: Er... Today you are wearing your Sunday clothes? Where is the cloak?
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (sharply) The dry cleaner's...  ???
- Scarecrow: Where is the smoke and the special effects?
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (sharply) We are downsizing...
- Tin Man: Where is the suggestions box?
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (sharply) Got rid of it! Too many contradicting requests...
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Well, thank you for coming. Your three questions have been ANSWERED! Goooood bye! Gooooood b...! (interrupted)
- Dorothy: NO WAIT! I came here to because I wanted to go back home!  >:(
- Tin Man: And I heartedly wanted to be declared innocent from all charges of tile theft!
- Scarecrow: And I wanted to witfully solve who stole the tile and the red slippers.
- Lion: And I would like to bravely apprehend the culprit.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: OK, OK.... Please be calm. I shall comply with your requests in time... But first you will have to answer the following questions...
- Wizard of Carcassonne: I will grant 1-5 points for the first question as usual, and 1 extra point per additional question answered correctly, even if you don't answer the first question correctly. Such is the power of the Wizard!
- Scarecrow: Come on, Dorothy! You are ready for this, right?
- Dorothy:  :o



Question #24: The Wizard of Carcassonne places the tile with the Yellow Wagon, and asks the following questions:
1) How many points does each player score? The Wizard of Carcassonne is only interested in the highest score for each player. [1-5 points]
2) What feature(s) did Red complete to get the Orange Teacher? [1 point]
3) What is the least points Red can receive from the Orange Teacher? [1 point]
4) After scoring, what happens to the Blue Meeple and the fairy? [1 point]
5) After scoring, what possible features can the Yellow Wagon be moved to? [1 point]
6) After scoring, which player gets the Orange Teacher? [1 point]
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 24, 2020, 07:49:09 AM
Hi davide,

There are no green meeples. There are red, yellow and blue. Do you need me to tag them?

Cheers!
I wondered about this too - if green or red or both were present - in earlier questions too.
Good to know as ever that Meepledrone is looking after us all.
+1 merit from me for remembering to account for colourblindness.

- Meepledrone: Thanks! It is the least I can do.  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: oldbonz on December 24, 2020, 08:47:49 AM
cette tuile est officielle ?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 24, 2020, 09:02:12 AM
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Welcome to the oracle of THE WIZARD OF CARCASSONNE!
- Lion: Er... Today you are wearing your Sunday clothes? Where is the cloak?
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (sharply) The dry cleaner's...  ???
- Scarecrow: Where is the smoke and the special effects?
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (sharply) We are downsizing...
- Tin Man: Where is the suggestions box?
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (sharply) Got rid of it! Too many contradicting requests...
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Well, thank you for coming. Your three questions have been ANSWERED! Goooood bye! Gooooood b...! (interrupted)
- Dorothy: NO WAIT! I came here to because I wanted to go back home!  >:(
- Tin Man: And I heartedly wanted to be declared innocent from all charges of tile theft!
- Scarecrow: And I wanted to witfully solve who stole the tile and the red slippers.
- Lion: And I would like to bravely apprehend the culprit.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: OK, OK.... Please be calm. I shall comply with your requests in time... But first you will have to answer the following questions...
- Wizard of Carcassonne: I will grant 1-5 points for the first question as usual, and 1 extra point per additional question answered correctly, even if you don't answer the first question correctly. Such is the power of the Wizard!
- Scarecrow: Come on, Dorothy! You are ready for this, right?
- Dorothy:  :o



Question #24: The Wizard of Carcassonne places the tile with the Yellow Wagon, and asks the following questions:
1) How many points does each player score? The Wizard of Carcassonne is only interested in the highest score for each player. [1-5 points]
2) What feature(s) did Red complete to get the Orange Teacher? [1 point]
3) What is the least points Red can receive from the Orange Teacher? [1 point]
4) After scoring, what happens to the Blue Meeple and the fairy? [1 point]
5) After scoring, what possible features can the Yellow Wagon be moved to? [1 point]
6) After scoring, which player gets the Orange Teacher? [1 point]
If the teacher is Orange and is in the Red's supply, is the Red meeple a Phantom ?  ???
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 24, 2020, 10:07:33 AM
- Meepledrone: Elementary, Gagoune! The Red Meeple is a phantom!  ;)
- Gagoune: Ah ok. Good to know!
- Meepledrone: You know, I will give everyone some days to review their responses. On Monday Dec 28th I will start posting the results of the quiz. And finally we will have a winner!  ;D
- Gagoune: Sounds perfect to me!
- Meepledrone: OK.
- Gagoune:  OK.
- Meepledrone:  OK. I'm leaving
- Gagoune:  OK.
- Meepledrone: Bye.
- Gagoune:  OK.
- ...

30 minutes later!

- ...
- Meepledrone:  OK. I'm off.
- Gagoune:  Bye. Short farewells are so depressing...
- Meepledrone: Bye. I agree.
- Gagoune:  Bye bye.
- Meepledrone: Bye bye.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 24, 2020, 10:15:40 AM
Ha ha ha!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 24, 2020, 10:18:54 AM
cette tuile est officielle ?

- Wizard of Carcassonne: I'm the almighty Wizard of Carcassonne so I added some Print And Play expansions (PnP) to the mix. Behold my magnificence! Behold my grandeur!
- The Grinch: Stop boasting! You are so full of... yourself!
- Wizard of Carcassonne: I'm the almighty Wizard of Carcassonne so I can do as I please.
- The Grinch: I have the almighty Pencil Sharpener of Death  around here... let me see...
- Wizard of Carcassonne: I'm the almighty Wizard of Carcassonne  and I gotta go...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 24, 2020, 02:56:59 PM
And the french version in PDF is updated !  O:-)
See there : http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532)
Just in the same time as Santa...

Ho ! Hello Santa, How do you... Er... Bye Santa ! Have an nice journey... night... Er... Deliveries !!! O:-)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 25, 2020, 02:58:02 PM
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Greetings everyone! I have summoned you all to answer your concerns.
- Scarecrow: Thank you, Wizard!
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (looking back with utmost disdain) Ahem ahem!  >:(
- Dorothy: Thank you, oh almighty Wizard of Carcassonne...
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (slowly) That's more like it!
- Wizard of Carcassonne: I invited the most honorable Meeple Council and all the figures involved in the Advent Quiz.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Close the doors until I say so.
- Blue Meeple: (murmuring) I have to go back to my owner's supply.
- Yellow Wagon: (whispering) I can stay long. I have to move to another feature.
- Red Meeple: (whispering back) The sooner you shut up, the sooner this will be over.

(https://i.imgur.com/YRPeqoU.png)

- Wizard of Carcassonne: SILENCE!  >:(
- Wizard of Carcassonne: As you all know, the Spiel'20 tile was stolen on Day 5 under Tin Man's watch. It was hidden under a hill tile and was found by Danisthirty and the Mini Meeples by chance on Day 23.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: A green ribbon was left behind at the crime scene on Day 5 and another one was found on Day 22 after the Wicked Witch of the West suffered an unfortunate accident...
- Lion: (interrupting) How is she?
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (another disdainful look)  >:(
- Lion: Sorry for interrupting.  :-X
- Wizard of Carcassonne: She is fine. She only has a splintered ankle. DrMeeple attended to her.
- Wicked Witch of the West: Hey I'm here! You can ask me. Shall I can convert you into a sheep token?
- Lion: Shhhhh! :(
- Wizard of Carcassonne: When the dust settled, her red slippers were gone.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Officer Scarecrow received an anonymous letter with his own writing accusing the Gingerbread Man... but it was signed by Baba Yaga.
- Tin Man: How can that be? Who is that?
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (another disdainful look) >:(
- Wizard of Carcassonne: I will come to that later. Baba Yaga is the Wicked Witch of the West's maiden name.
- The Mini Meeples and Scarecrow: Ooooooooooh! :o
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Ahem ahem!
- Scarecrow: (muttering) Sorry!
- Wizard of Carcassonne: On top of this mess, the interference of The Wicked Witch of the West and Frankie Stein disguised as Dorothy was adding some noise to the picture.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: They were trying to spy on their kid, The Grinch! But their actions seemed to set things in motion on Day 5.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: They also facilitated the escape of Tin Man on Day 19.
- Wicked Witch of the West: Thanks for the recap, honey, but we want to solve all this mysteries. They already replied to your questions. Will you cut to the chase?
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (absolutely disdainful) I am the almighty...
- Wicked Witch of the West: Blah blah blah... SHUT UP, little brother!!! >:D
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Ok, ok...
- Frankie Stein: Well done, my evil hearted one!
- Wicked Witch of the West: (whispering) I don't have time for this. I'm going to be late for my hair appointment.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (pulling himself together) I lay the truth before you ...
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Guards, apprehend the Red Phantom.
- Red Phantom: (struggling) This is outrageous!
- Wizard of Carcassonne: You wanted to ruin the Advent Quiz since the beginning.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: You are not the Red Phantom, you paid him a vacation to Carcassonne. You are actually the White Phantom!
- Fir Tree: I'm AM GROOT! >:(
- Easter Bunny: How is it possible?
- Red Phantom: You can't prove that! Mwahahaahah!
- The Grinch: Hey, don't steal my lines!
- Wizard of Carcassonne: But you couldn't control all the details. You couldn't prevent Danisthirty and the Mini Meeples from finding the stolen tile....
- Wizard of Carcassonne: By the way, the real Red Phantom sent me a postcard from the city of Carcassonne with the Count.  >:D
- Red Phantom: Blimey!
- Wizard of Carcassonne: You used your almost invisibility to steal the Spiel'20 tile at night.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: You also "suggested" the Scarecrow to write the anonymous note... He would not remember later in any case.
- Scarecrow: Oh dear! Now I remember...
- Wizard of Carcassonne: And you tried to frame the Wicked Witch of the West by planting false evidence.
- Wizard of Carcassonne: Finally, you also stole her red slippers to disguise as the Red Phantom!
- The Audience: Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!

(https://i.imgur.com/U3WHsQN.png)

- Ex-Red Phantom: You discovered me! I just want to be a proper meeple! Not just a phantom! I get lost on a tile and everybody ignores me! Am I bad for that?
- Tin Man: You, nasty meeple! I'm so grateful, oh almighty Wizard of Carcassonne!
- Easter Bunny: I'm in shock! Did you steal any of my Easter eggs? Tell me!
- Wizard of Carcassonne: So, Tin Man, you are free to go...
- Lion: Fear not, I will take the White Phantom to prison myself and return the red slippers.
- Dorothy: And what about me?
- Wizard of Carcassonne: (to Dorothy) If you want to go back to Kansas, you may have called an Uber a few days ago. Nobody told you?  >:D
- Dorothy:  :o
- The Meeple Council: He he he!  ^-^
- Wizard of Carcassonne: While your sort out your differences.... Merry Christmas to all!

(https://i.imgur.com/0uPLgSO.png)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 28, 2020, 06:55:44 AM
And the french version in PDF is updated !  O:-)
See there :
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532)
A bit late, sorry...  :-[

Spent so much time to unpack Santa's delivery !  O:-) ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 28, 2020, 04:19:44 PM
- Meepledrone: Hi all! I will start posting the answers and the ranking.
- Snowman: How exciting!
- Fir Tree: I AM GROOOOT!
- Santa Claus: Remember that the scoring scenarios happen mainly during a game except those indicated as happening after the game, featuring the scoring of a field, a barn or a German Castle, for example.
- Meepledrone: I've ignored the scoring after the game provided in those cases where only scoring during the game was necessary.
- Easter Bunny: The figures belonging to the Meeple Council are just a decoration... (whispering) Don't tell The Grinch.
- The Grinch: (approaching) I'm here! Tell me what?
- Meepledrone: (continuing quickly) They don't represent a particular turn or player color.
- Gingerbread Man: We just indicate the number of expansions featured (tiles or figures) in the scenario.
- Meepledrone: I assumed C2 rules for Halflings but I will also consider valid those answers with old rules.
- Danisthirty: Cheers and good luck to the participants!
- The Grinch: May I leak the winner to the press?  >:D
- The rest of the Meeple Council: NOOOO!  >:(
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 28, 2020, 04:41:35 PM
Question #1: The Gingerbread Man completes these two cities. How many points does Yellow score?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13320)



Answer #1: The tile completes two cities at the same time:
* Yellow scores 12 points for the larger city, which has 2 Halfling tiles, 3 square tiles and 1 coat of arms (5 tiles x 2 points + 1 coat of arms x 2 points = 12 points).
* Yellow scores 4 points for the small city (2 tiles x 2 points = 4 points).

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 16 points in two separate scoring events (12 points for the larger city + 4 points for the small city).



For those applying the old Halfling rules (2 Halfling tiles are counted as 1 tile), the results would be as follows:
* Yellow scores 10 points for the larger city, which has 2 Halfling tiles (counted as 1 tile), 3 square tiles and 1 coat of arms (4 tiles x 2 points + 1 coat of arms x 2 points = 10 points).
* Yellow scores 4 points for the small city (2 tiles x 2 points = 4 points).

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 14 points in two separate scoring events (10 points for the larger city + 4 points for the small city).
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 28, 2020, 04:52:06 PM
Question #2: The Snowman completes this road. How many points does Yellow score?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13323)



Answer #2: The completed road has 5 tiles (The Spiel'20 tile is counted only once even if the road passes through it twice). The Yellow meeple is placed on a road segment on the watchtower tile that cannot be seen. So the the scoring will follow these steps:
1. You score the watchtower at the end of the completed road first for the Yellow meeple: 2 neighboring tiles with city segments / 1 point per tile = 2 points.
2. You score the road itself: 5 tiles x 1 point per tile = 5 points

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 7 points in two separate scoring events (2 points for the watchtowers + 5 points for the road).
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 28, 2020, 05:00:23 PM
Question #3: Santa Claus placed this tile wishing you the best for Christmas... How many points will score each meeple?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13327)



Answer #3: The Peasant Revolts tile will affect any unprotected meeple placed on a monastic building. In this case, the Yellow Meeple will be removed without scoring any points as soon as the tile is drawn.

The resulting scenario then shows:
1. A completed road occupied by the Blue Meeple, that scores 5 points (5 tiles x 1 point per tile)
2. An unoccupied completed monastery worth 12 points (9 points for the monastery + 3 points for the adjacent vineyard)
3. A castle occupied by the Red Meeple that is also completed by the previous two features. Both of them overlap the castle fief. So both of them trigger the scoring of the castle even if the monastery is unoccupied. The player occupying the castle may choose to score the points for only one of these two features: either 5 points for the road or 12 points for the unoccupied monastery.

Bottomline:
* Blue scores 5 points
* Red scores either 5 points for the road or 12 points for the monastery plus the adjacent vineyard, according to Red's decision.
* Yellow scores no points, it is returned to  its owner's supply.

Note: Blue and Yellow would like to thank all those participants who only allowed Red to score 5 points for their castle. Unless they wanted to receive a message, those missed 7 points can be of great help in a real game. Remember that unoccupied features also trigger the scoring of a castle. :)   
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 28, 2020, 05:09:33 PM
Question #4: How many points does each player score after Danisthirty places this tile?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13332)



Answer #4: This question combines the following elements:
* A completed road occupied by the Blue Meeple where we have to consider:
  - An inn
  - A German cathedral where the road ends twice
  - A German castle
* A completed German cathedral occupied by the Red Meeple with two completed roads:
  - The road occupied by the Blue Meeple
  - An unoccupied 2-tile road connecting  the German cathedral and the German castle
 
1) Scoring the completed road occupied by the Blue Meeple:

Blue Meeple will score [ (4 square tiles + 1 double-sized tile + 2 road segments on the German cathedral tile) x (1 point / tile + 1 point for the German cathedral + 1 point for the inn) ] + 3 points for the German castle  = [ (4 + 1 + 2) x 3 ] + 3 = (7 x 3) + 3 = 21 + 3 = 24 points

Note that each road segment on the German cathedral tile is considered separately.

2) Scoring the German cathedral occupied by the Red Meeple

Each road is scored independently and their points added together.

2a) The road occupied by Blue Meeple is scored for the archbishop considering:
- the inn
- the road segments on the German cathedral tile considered separately
This road is then worth (4 square tiles + 1 double-sized tile + 2 road segments on the German cathedral tile) x (1 point / tile + 1 point for the inn) = (4 + 1 + 2) x (1 + 1) = 7 x 2 = 14 points

2b) The 2-tile road

This road is worth (1 double-sized tile + 1 road segment on the German cathedral tile) x 1 point / tile = (1 + 1) x 1 = 2 x 1 = 2 points.

So, the Red Meeple scores 14 + 2 = 16 points for the German cathedral.

Note that the German castle bonus does not apply when scoring the roads connected to a German cathedral. Archbishops only care about plain roads and possible inns on them.

Bottomline:
* Blue scores 24 points for the road
* Red scores 16 points for the German cathedral
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on December 28, 2020, 05:11:19 PM
hi, I did not understand why the monastery was not occupied, it is not a German or Dutch monastery, so I thought it was marked, occupied by yellow, could you clarify this doubt?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 28, 2020, 05:21:59 PM
hi, I did not understand why the monastery was not occupied, it is not a German or Dutch monastery, so I thought it was marked, occupied by yellow, could you clarify this doubt?

No problem!

The monastery in Question #3 is occupied by Yellow when the turn starts, but the Peasant Revolts tile drawn by the active player (see bottom right corner) affects unprotected meeples on monasteries.

As a result, as soon as the tile is drawn, the Yellow Meeple is removed from the monastery.  Then the tile is placed.

At this moment, only the Red Meeple and the Blue Meeple remain on the board.

The trick here is that a castle can score points for an unoccupied feature that was just completed. This is the case of the monastery just vacated by the Peasant Revolts tile.

Did I answer your question?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on December 28, 2020, 05:36:14 PM
hello sorry I had not seen that it had the loseta of the Campesina revolt, another doubt, I did not meet specifications in the rules of German cathedrals and German castles that said that they did not give the bonus if the road closed in the German cathedral, can you clarify this doubt?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: DrMeeple on December 28, 2020, 05:51:31 PM
hello sorry I had not seen that it had the loseta of the Campesina revolt, another doubt, I did not meet specifications in the rules of German cathedrals and German castles that said that they did not give the bonus if the road closed in the German cathedral, can you clarify this doubt?
True. Bonus on roads will be or not will be but you can’t decide some yes and some no like little buildings for example yes but german castle not...


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Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 28, 2020, 05:52:38 PM
hello sorry I had not seen that it had the loseta of the Campesina revolt, another doubt, I did not meet specifications in the rules of German cathedrals and German castles that said that they did not give the bonus if the road closed in the German cathedral, can you clarify this doubt?

The rules of German Cathedrals are written with the base game and Inns & Cathedrals in mind only. You can check the interaction here and especially the scoring summary in footnote #3:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Cathedrals_in_Germany#Inns_and_Cathedrals (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Cathedrals_in_Germany#Inns_and_Cathedrals)

The fact that German castles are not considered when scoring the roads for the archbishop was confirmed in some "riddles" Kettlefish created after discussing the rules with HiG. Pay special attention to these two scoring riddles combining German cathedrals and German castles (click on the images to magnify them):

* During the game:
   - Question:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2580.msg37680#msg37680 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2580.msg37680#msg37680)
   - Answer:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2580.msg37695#msg37695 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2580.msg37695#msg37695)

* During and After the game:
   - Question:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2580.msg37715#msg37715 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2580.msg37715#msg37715)
   - Answer:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2580.msg37723#msg37723 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2580.msg37723#msg37723)

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on December 28, 2020, 06:01:19 PM
tank you very much, i print this rule to insert at anothers rules I have
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 28, 2020, 06:02:33 PM
My pleasure! Que lo disfrutes!  ^-^
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 04:48:04 AM
Question #5: The The Grinch places this tile and places Red's barn. How many points does each player score in this case?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13345)



Answer #5: The placement of the barn causes the scoring of the field. Both Red and Yellow have one meeple each in the field but the Red Ringmaster is placed on a hill tile, so the tie is broken in Red's favor.

So, only Red scores 9 points for the field:
1) The completed city is worth 4 points (3 points + 1 point for the pig)
2) The castle is worth 5 points (4 points + 1 point for the pig)

Additionally, the Red Ringmaster will also score 2 ringmaster points for the circus space on the adjacent tile (1 circus space x 2 points).

On the other hand, Yellow will score no points for the field, since it doesn't have the majority.

The Yellow Castle Lord will not score any points either, since field scorings do not complete a castle.

As a result of the barn placement, the Red Ringmaster, the Red Pig and the Yellow Meeple in the field will return to their owners.

Bottomline:
- Red scores 11 points in two separate scoring events (9 points for the field + 2 ringmaster points)
- Yellow scores 0 points.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 05:34:34 AM
Question #6: The Gingerbread Man completed this road. How many points does each player score?

Note: The Yellow Meeple on the tower was placed on an earlier turn.

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13351)



Answer #6: Red and Yellow share the majority in the road with one meeple each. So, both Red and Yellow score 5 points (5 tiles x 1 point / tile )

Notes:
* The Yellow Meeple on top of the tower does not affect the majority.
* The Yellow Meeple capping the tower does not allow any player to capture meeples with it.

Bottomline:
- Red scores 5 points
- Yellow scores 5 points
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: corinthiens13 on December 29, 2020, 07:08:31 AM
So much suspense... It's breathtaking  :o  :D

Thanks for this calendar and every riddles!  :yellow-meeple:

+1 merit for Meepledrone, and Gagoune for French translation.  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 29, 2020, 07:25:49 AM
+1 merit for Meepledrone, and Gagoune for French translation.  ;)
Hey, thanks corinthiens13 !
I see you know the rules of the game ! Editing your french file sure helps to know the rules better and better ! ^-^
I'll edit the file with al the 24 answers.
After, I'll try to make a fille that can be used/printed for next years ! with some tips like links to the rules of the expansions or something like that ! I'll see...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on December 29, 2020, 09:16:00 AM
I am sure I will not win this year as I have been offline for quite some time at the end of the advent quiz.
But I am happy to see that I got at least the first seven questions right  ;D

And I am also happy to see that there is much more competition than last year.
Gagoune, corinthiens13, Bumsakalaka and Carcassonne 93 to name a few are doing really great!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 29, 2020, 09:26:28 AM
I am sure I will not win this year as I have been offline for quite some time at the end of the advent quiz.
But I am happy to see that I got at least the first seven questions right  ;D

And I am also happy to see that there is much more competition than last year.
Gagoune, corinthiens13, Bumsakalaka and Carcassonne 93 to name a few are doing really great!
So maybe we get a chance !  >:D
You're strong with the rules, it must be fun to play with you !  :))
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: DrMeeple on December 29, 2020, 09:40:29 AM
I am sure I will not win this year as I have been offline for quite some time at the end of the advent quiz.
But I am happy to see that I got at least the first seven questions right  ;D

And I am also happy to see that there is much more competition than last year.
Gagoune, corinthiens13, Bumsakalaka and Carcassonne 93 to name a few are doing really great!

7?  :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on December 29, 2020, 10:13:42 AM
I am sure I will not win this year as I have been offline for quite some time at the end of the advent quiz.
But I am happy to see that I got at least the first seven questions right  ;D

And I am also happy to see that there is much more competition than last year.
Gagoune, corinthiens13, Bumsakalaka and Carcassonne 93 to name a few are doing really great!

7?  :o
It might be 6  ;D
But let's hope also my seventh answer is correct  >:D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 11:27:23 AM
So much suspense... It's breathtaking  :o  :D

Thanks for this calendar and every riddles!  :yellow-meeple:

+1 merit for Meepledrone, and Gagoune for French translation.  ;)

Thanks!  ;D

I'm doing several tasks in parallel... That helps building up the suspense!  >:D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 11:28:40 AM
Question #7: The Snowman just placed this tile triggering the scoring of the big top. How many points does each player receive?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13356)



Answer #7: Each player will score 3 points per meeple on the tiles neighboring the circus space. Castles overlapping those tiles should be considered as well.

This said, Blue will receive points for the Blue Farmer, Red will receive points for the Red Castle Lord and the Red Acrobat, and Yellow will receive points for the Yellow Acrobat.

Note that:
* The meeples on castles are considered as indicated in the rules (see the interactions with Exp. 8 - Bridges, Castles & Bazaars)
* The scoring of the big top happens at the end of the scoring phase, after all the completed features have been scored and the meeples on them have been removed. This is sequence of actions is relevant in some scenarios (as shown in the scoring example in the Exp. 10 rules), but this not the case. The meeples involved in the scoring stay where they are.
* The big top scoring does not trigger the scoring of castles.

Bottomline:
- Blue will score 3 points (1 meeple x 3 points)
- Red will score 6 points (2 meeples x 3 points)
- Yellow will score 3 points (1 meeple x 3 points)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 11:39:22 AM
Question #8: Santa Claus places this tile and completes the road. Check the active scoring tile for roads. How many points does each player receive?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13360)



Answer #8: The tile completes a road a 4-tile road affected by the Street Fair scoring tile. The completion of the road will also trigger the scoring of the tollhouse and the neighboring castle.

The tollhouse will be scored first considering the large toll: Blue will score 10 points (2 point for the farmhouse + 2 point for the highwaymen + 6 points for the group of travelers)

The road will be scored after the tollhouse: Yellow will score 8 points for the road (4 tiles x 2 points per tile for the Street Fair scoring tile).

The castle occupied by the Yellow Meeple will score the same points as the road. It does not get any points from the tollhouse. So, Yellow will score another 8 points for the castle.

Bottomline:
- Blue scores 10 points for the tollhouse.
- Yellow scores 16 points in two separate events (8 points for the road and another 8 points for the castle).
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 11:52:00 AM
Question #9: Danisthirty completed this magnificent city. Check the current scoring tile for cities. How many points does each player score?

PS: There are no large meeples in this question.

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13363)



Answer #9: The city has two coats of arms so there it a tie between the Yellow Mayor and the 2 Red Regular Meeples. So both players score for the city.

Note that the city has 8 tiles, but two of them present semicircular segments discarded by the Bad Neighborhood scoring tile, so they will not be considered for the basic city scoring:
* The CFRR tile with the Yellow Mayor will not be considered in the tile count for the city.
* The CCFF tile with the Red Meeple at the far end will not be considered either since both semicircular segments are ignored.

The city is worth 32 points (24 points for the city itself + 8 points for the mage):
* Basic city scoring: (6 tiles + 2 coat of arms) x (2 points + 1 point for the cathedral) = 8 x 3 = 24 points
* Mage bonus = 8 tiles x 1 point = 8 points

Bottomline:
- Red scores 32 points
- Yellow scores 32 points
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 12:46:13 PM
Question #10: How many points does each player score after The Grinch completed this road?

Note: Let's use the advanced variant rules for the Labyrinth!

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13366)



Answer #10: There are two events happening in this scenario: The road network is completed but also the field with the shepherd is completely surrounded so its has to be scored too. The shepherd is scored in phase 2. Placing a meeple and the road is scored in phase 3. Scoring a feature.

We will explain here the result applying the rules for Halflings provided in 2020 (the same as the clarifications from 10/2015 in this case). At the end, a note explains the difference with the results if applying the rules from 2014).

1) Scoring the shepherd

Red extends the field with their shepherd. Then he/she may grow their flock or score it right away. If Red grows their flock, it will be scored anyway, since tile completes the field (it is completely surrounded by city, road segments and the exterior of the labyrinth).

Note: I was interested in the scoring of the shepherd no matter what. So option a) was good enough for the answer. Congrats to those considering all the options.  :(y) :(y)

The following actions may happen:
a) Red score the shepherd right away and receive 6 points (3 points for the sheep tokens + 3 points for the printed sheep).
b) Red grow your flock and draw a token with 1-4 sheep, and then score your shepherd receiving from 7 to 10 points depending on the token you draw (3 points for the sheep tokens + 3 points for the printed sheep + 1-4 points for the sheep on the token just drawn).
c) Red grow your flock and draw a wolf token, so you score no points.

The shepherd will be removed and the sheep tokens will be returned to the cloth bag for future draws.

2) Scoring the road

The road has:
- 10 tiles (including two Halfling tiles sharing the same space)
- 1 bathhouse
- 1 labyrinth tile
- 2 watchtowers

2.1) Scoring  watchtowers

Watchtowers are scored before the completed feature triggering their scoring.

There are two watchtowers on the road but only one with the Blue is scored. It complies with the requirement to be scored: the meeple on the watchtower tile is placed on a road segment belonging to the completed road. Note that the majority in the feature does not apply to watchtowers. The meeple on the watchtower tile received the bonus.

The other watchtower is not scored for this road, since there is no meeple placed on the road segment on the watchtower tile connected to the road network.

So, Blue will score 4 points, that is, 1 point per tile with road segments neighboring the watchtower. Those tiles include the watchtower tile itself, the labyrinth tile and two more tiles with roads.

2.2) Scoring the road network itself

Red has the majority in the road (2 meeples), since Yellow and Blue have only one meeple each. The Yellow Builder is not taken into consideration when calculating the majority. It is not a meeple.

So only Red will score points for the road network, which is worth 23 points (10 + 5 + 8 points):
* 10 points for the road (10 tiles x 1 point per tile). Note: The watchtower tile with the Blue Meeple is counted once even if it participates in the road network twice.
* 8 points for the meeples on the road network with the labyrinth (4 meeples x 2 points per meeple). Note the builder is not considered here, since it is not a meeple; it is a special figure.   

No meeple will be moved to the bathhouse, since this scoring involves more than one meeple.

Bottomline:
- Blue scores 4 points for the watchtower.
- Red may score:
   a) 29 points in two separate scoring events and rounds of scoring (6 points for the shepherd and 23 points for the road), if the shepherd is scored right away.
   b) 30-33 points in two separate scoring events and rounds of scoring (7-10 points for the shepherd and 23 points for the road), if Red expands their flock and draws a sheep token.
   c) 23 points for the road, if Red expands their flock and draws a wolf token.
- Yellow scores no points.



Note: If considering the rules from 2014 where two Halflings share the same square are counted as one tile. As a result, the scoring for the road would be 1 point less, since the road is scored as a 9-tile road.

Bottomline:
- Blue scores 4 points for the watchtower.
- Red may score:
   a) 28 points in two separate scoring events and rounds of scoring (6 points for the shepherd and 22 points for the road), if the shepherd is scored right away.
   b) 29-32 points in two separate scoring events and rounds of scoring (7-10 points for the shepherd and 22 points for the road), if Red expands their flock and draws a sheep token.
   c) 22 points for the road, if Red expands their flock and draws a wolf token.
- Yellow scores no points.

Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: carlium on December 29, 2020, 12:55:18 PM
 :( was I the only one who saw a semicircular city segment here?  :'(

(https://i.ibb.co/H4ScLhN/Annotation-2020-12-29-154836.jpg)
https://i.ibb.co/H4ScLhN/Annotation-2020-12-29-154836.jpg
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 01:01:25 PM
:( was I the only one who saw a semicircular city segment here?  :'(

(https://i.ibb.co/H4ScLhN/Annotation-2020-12-29-154836.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)

I think there is a problem with the image you tried to embed...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: carlium on December 29, 2020, 01:08:49 PM
hmmm, that is weird, bbimg has never failed me, thanks for letting me know. I was talking about this tile Meepledrone:
https://wikicarpedia.com/images/8/80/Abbey_And_Mayor_C2_Tile_E.jpg

I considered this a semicircular segment and this modify my scoring of course.

(https://i.ibb.co/H4ScLhN/Annotation-2020-12-29-154836.jpg)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 01:18:52 PM
hmmm, that is weird bbimg has never failed me, thanks for letting me know. I was talking about this tile Meepledrone:
https://wikicarpedia.com/images/8/80/Abbey_And_Mayor_C2_Tile_E.jpg

I considered this a semicircular segment and this modify my scoring of course.

The rules tell you to discard semicircular segments like the ones in the base game, that would be the same type you may use to build a castle. So you discard the tile for the basic scoring of the city if all the city segments contributed by the tile have this shape.

Quote
Bad Neighborhood | During the scoring of a city, these completing city segments (https://wikicarpedia.com/images/5/5d/Land_Surveyors_C2_Semicircular_City_Segment.png) are not part of the scoring and do not get you any points.


In this case, even if you discard the semicircular by error, you should consider the tile due to the other city segment on it.  >:D

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: carlium on December 29, 2020, 01:24:28 PM
Yes I considered the tile but not the shield in that segment  :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: corinthiens13 on December 29, 2020, 01:28:33 PM
The rules tell you to discard semicircular segments like the ones in the base game, that would be the same type you may use to build a castle. So you discard the tile for the basic scoring of the city if all the city segments contributed by the tile have this shape.


Agreed  ;)

Quote
In this case, even if you discard the semicircular by error, you should consider the tile due to the other city segment on it.  >:D

But if you discard the semicircular part by error, you discard the pennant as well, so the scoring is indeed different  :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 01:37:01 PM
The rules tell you to discard semicircular segments like the ones in the base game, that would be the same type you may use to build a castle. So you discard the tile for the basic scoring of the city if all the city segments contributed by the tile have this shape.


Agreed  ;)

Quote
In this case, even if you discard the semicircular by error, you should consider the tile due to the other city segment on it.  >:D

But if you discard the semicircular part by error, you discard the pennant as well, so the scoring is indeed different  :o

Yes, this is another matter...  >:D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 01:39:23 PM
Yes I considered the tile but not the shield in that segment  :o

Yep... That's the issue.

And this segment should not be discarded as it does not match the requirements in the rules.  :'(
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Bumsakalaka on December 29, 2020, 01:56:15 PM
I forgot, that in #10 was red on turn, that he can take new flock.
Anyway, what if all flocks are used?
Bad question: there are alsways wolf in bag...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 29, 2020, 04:05:11 PM
I definitively hate that Grinch...  :'( :'( :'(
I don't get any brain to understand anything... And now, impossible to stick even to the 3rd place... ;D

There are too many "meeple masters" around there ! Even if We don't already know the winner, I can say that those guys are incredible ! (Not to mention that Meepledrone has done all the work and has even told us a pretty story ! +1 merit for it...  :(y) before I definitively fall in the bottom of the scoreboard... :-[)

Edit : French version pdf here (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532) until answer #10 (but without scoreboard... don't want to suicide tonight !  :o  O:-) )
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 04:37:13 PM
- Meepledrone: Thanks! It is a great experience to share all this with you...
- Santa Claus: Oh Dear! The document is almost 60 pages now...  :o
- The Grinch: What did you expect? Why do you let him explain all this? People should be kept in the dark!
- Fir Tree: (a woodpecks pecks on the trunk)  ::)
- Easter Bunny: (to The Grinch) I have "Home Alone" waiting for you... again.  >:D
- The Grinch:  :-X
- Danisthirty: Hey! Here comes another answer...  ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 29, 2020, 04:42:54 PM
Question #11: The Gingerbread Man closed this city. How many points does Yellow score?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13368)



Answer #11: The city has 8 tiles and 2 coats of arms. Yellow will score 20 points for it ( ( 8 tiles + 2 coat of arms ) x 2 points = 10 x 2 points ).

Note: Don't be fooled by tiles participating twice in the feature: the tile with the city overpass or the tile with two semicircular segments. They are counted only once.

Bottomline:
- Yellow will score 20 points for the city
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 30, 2020, 01:43:33 AM
Question #12: The Snowman places this tile, which completes a road connected to Leipzig through a village. It is Red's turn, who would like to send his meeple to Leipzig, to the Wainwrights quarter. How many points does each player score?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13371)



Answer #12: The tile placed completes the road occupied by Red and the monastery occupied by Blue. Red has a meeple on the road and decides to it to Leipzig (this is possible since the road just completed is connected to Leipzig through a village). Also the fairy could have been placed in this turn or in a previous one. Let's analyze each element separately.

1) The Fairy bonus at the beginning of Red's turn

There may be two scenarios:
a) The fairy was placed in a previous turn, so Red would score 1 bonus point
b) Red just placed the fairy in this turn, so Red would score no bonus point

2) Scoring the road

Since Red wants to send a meeple to Leipzig, Red scores 0 points for the road, that is, the player renounces to score the road. However Red scores the fairy scoring bonus, since the fairy was next to the meeple occupying the road being scored. So Red will score 3 points for the fairy.

Note: Red cannot score the Wainwrights quarter bonus right away, since it would require at least two Red Meeples on the road.

3) Scoring the monastery

Blue will score 9 points for the completed monastery.

Additionally, The players with meeples in the Bookbinders quarter in Leipzig will score the bonus. So Yellow and Blue will score 4 points each..

Notes:
* Scoring the monastery for 9 points follows the ruling for monasteries with tiles in other shapes like Halflings from 2014 and 2020, where a monastery is scored by occupied spaces no matter the tiles placed in those spaces. So the monastery is always worth 9 points in this grid-oriented approach. All the participants chose this approach.
* Another option would be to score the monastery by tiles, following the clarifications from 10/2015. In this case Blue would score 7 points for the monastery ( (2 double sized tiles + 5 square tiles)  x 1 point = 7 points)

Bottomline:

>> Grid approach for scoring the monastery:

A) Fairy placed on a previous turn

- Red will score 4 points in two separate scoring events in two rounds of scoring (1 point for the fairy at the beginning of the turn and 3 points for the fairy during scoring)
- Blue will score 13 points in two separate scoring events (9 points for the monastery and 4 points for the Bookbinders quarter bonus)
- Yellow scores 4 points for the Bookbinders quarter bonus too.

B) Fairy placed in this turn

- Red will score 3 points for the fairy
- Blue will score 13 points in two separate scoring events (9 points for the monastery and 4 points for the Bookbinders quarter bonus)
- Yellow scores 4 points for the Bookbinders quarter bonus too.

>> Tile approach for scoring the monastery:

A) Fairy placed on a previous turn

- Red will score 4 points in two separate scoring events in two rounds of scoring (1 point for the fairy at the beginning of the turn, 3 points for the fairy during scoring)
- Blue will score 11 points in two separate scoring events (7 points for the monastery and 4 points for the Bookbinders quarter bonus)
- Yellow scores 4 points for the Bookbinders quarter bonus too.

B) Fairy placed in this turn

- Red will score 3 points for the fairy
- Blue will score 11 points in two separate scoring events (7 points for the monastery and 4 points for the Bookbinders quarter bonus)
- Yellow scores 4 points for the Bookbinders quarter bonus too.



Note on scoring for this question

Due to a misunderstanding of the rules, I initially considered that Red could score the Wainwrights quarter bonus when sending a meeple to that quarter in Leipzig. The wording of the Markets of Leipzig rules on WICA was correct, but the information on the Reference Pages covering the scoring during the game were reflecting the misinterpretation.

So I decided to award points to both options as if correct in order to be as fair as possible in this case. In the long run, this doesn't affect the final ranking for any participant, just the total points obtained.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 30, 2020, 04:14:43 AM
Question #13: Santa Claus places this tile. What is the highest number of points each player can score after deploying meeples from the city of Carcassonne? Just in case anyone is interested, it is Yellow's turn.

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13382)



Answer #13: The placement of the tile completes two features:
* A city worth 17 points (16 points for the city + 1 point for the little building)
  - The city itself: (6 tiles + 2 coats of arms ) x 2 point = 8 x 2 = 16 points
  - The little building: 1 point for the shed (from Little Buildings)
* A road worth 6 points (5 points for the road + 1 point for the little building)
  - The road itself: 5 tiles x 1 point per tile = 5 points
  - The little building: 1 point for the shed (from Little Buildings)
 
Note that each feature being scored allows all the players in turn to redeploy as many of their meeples in Carcassonne to the feature being scored, as desired, even zero. In this case Yellow will be the last player to move meeples and has the last word in this case to control all the features and score the maximum number of points.

So let's explore two scenarios depending on whether the Yellow Mayor is deployed from Carcassonne:

A) When all the meeples in Carcassonne are redeployed:

In this case Yellow takes control of the city and the road:
  - The city would be occupied by the Yellow Mayor (with two majority votes thanks to the two coats of arms in the city), the Red Meeple (with one majority vote) and the Blue Meeple (with one majority vote too). So Yellow Mayor would score the city.
  - The unoccupied road would be controlled by the Yellow Meeple, the sole occupier deployed from Carcassonne.
 
So, the scoring would be as follows,
- Yellow would score 23 points as two separate scoring events (17 points for the city + 6 points for the road)
- Red would score 0 points
- Blue Meeple would score 0 points

Note: Players would obtain the same result if the Red Meeple is not redeployed in this case. Red, fearing for the worst case scenario against Yellow , could keep their meeple in Carcassonne.

B) If all the meeples in Carcassonne but the Yellow Mayor are redeployed:

It would be very bad for Yellow, who would only control the road. In this case, Red Meeple (with one majority vote) and the Blue Meeple (with one majority vote too) would share the city and score points for it, obtaining their maximum number of points.

So, the scoring would be as follows:
- Blue would score 17 points for the city.
- Red would score 17 points for the city.
- Yellow would score 6 points  for the road.

In this case, Red and Blue receive as many points as they can get. However this only can happen if Yellow allows it.

Note: Would you allow this to happen in a game if you were playing Yellow? If so, Yellow is giving away an advantage of 34 points to their two opponents: 17 points they are scoring for the city plus the 17 points Yellow did not to score.

Bottomline:
- Blue would score 17 points for the city for scenario B)
- Red would score 17 points for the city for scenario B)
- Yellow would score 23 points for scenario A)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 30, 2020, 04:36:04 AM
Question #14: After Danisthirty places this tile, how many points does each player score, if any?

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Answer #14: The Blue Abbot scores no points. It was just placed on an incomplete monastery.

The tile placed completes an unoccupied 2-tile road. Nobody scores for the road itself but it triggers the scoring of the castle occupied by the Yellow Mayor. The castle is entitled to receive 2 points for the completed road (2 tiles x 1 point per tile) but the Yellow Mayor cannot score those points since the castle is a feature with no coats of arms.

So the Yellow Mayor will score 0 points for the road but will be able to receive the fairy 3-point scoring bonus. This means that Yellow scores 3 points after all.

Additionally, the completion of the castle occupied by Yellow triggers the scoring of the castle occupied by Red, since the castles overlap each other's fiefs. The Red Castle Lord will also be entitled to score the same 2 points the previous castle was entitled to for the road. As a result, Red will score 2 points.

Notes:
* A key point here is the dissociation between the points a feature is worth and the points a meeple can score (the mayor effect so to speak). Castles see the points completed features are worth, even if the meeples on them cannot score those points (the Yellow Mayor in this case). 
* Red will not be able to receive any points from the fairy. The fairy bonus is not part of the scoring of a feature but a bonus associated to a meeple.

Bottomline:
- Blue scores 0 points
- Red scores 2 points
- Yellow scores 3 points
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 30, 2020, 04:51:58 AM
Question #14: After Danisthirty places this tile, how many points does each player score, if any?

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Answer #14: The Blue Abbot scores no points. It was just placed on an incomplete monastery.

The tile placed completes an unoccupied 2-tile road. Nobody scores for the road itself but it triggers the scoring of the castle occupied by the Yellow Mayor. The castle is entitled to receive 2 points for the completed road (2 tiles x 1 point per tile) but the Yellow Mayor cannot score those points since the castle is a feature with no coats of arms.

So the Yellow Mayor will score 0 points for the road but will be able to receive the fairy 3-point scoring bonus. This means that Yellow scores 3 points after all.

Additionally, the completion of the castle occupied by Yellow triggers the scoring of the castle occupied by Red, since the castles overlap each other's fiefs. The Red Castle Lord will also be entitled to score the same 2 points the previous castle was entitled to for the road. As a result, Red will score 2 points.

Notes:
* A key point here is the dissociation between the points a feature is worth and the points a meeple can score. Castles see the points completed features are worth, even if the meeples on them cannot score those points. 
* Red will not be able to receive any points from the fairy. The fairy bonus is not part of the scoring of a feature but a bonus associated to a meeple.

Bottomline:
- Blue scores 0 points
- Red scores 2 points
- Yellow scores 3 points
Hahahaha I was waiting for another contradiction rules with no sense hahaha


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- Meepledrone: ...and you thought mayors were dull!  :P
- DrMeeple: I could strangle one right now with my bare meeple hands!
- The Grinch: I have to see this!  >:D
- DrMeeple:  :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: corinthiens13 on December 30, 2020, 08:33:41 AM
Aaw, questions 13 and 14 are marking the end of my correct answers streak...  :'(
Maybe the beginning of my wrong answers streak?  >:D

13: I did only explore the first scenario, the second seemed to unlogical to me, as yellow would never allow it  :o ???

14: I thought the second castle would get the same number of points than the first (without fairy of course), 0 points.
Here's a correction I have to make to the French order of play  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 30, 2020, 08:46:13 AM
Aaw, questions 13 and 14 are marking the end of my correct answers streak...  :'(
Maybe the beginning of my wrong answers streak?  >:D

13: I did only explore the first scenario, the second seemed to unlogical to me, as yellow would never allow it  :o ???

You missed half the fun...  ;)

14: I thought the second castle would get the same number of points than the first (without fairy of course), 0 points.
Here's a correction I have to make to the French order of play  ;)

Castles "clone" points for features, not points scored by figures. That why castles can score points for unoccupied features, but they don't receive points for bonuses to meeples. Otherwise it would be inconsistent.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: carlium on December 30, 2020, 08:47:45 AM
In Q12

Quote
* The Wainwrights quarter bonus, since Red can score the bonus right away in the same turn he sends a meeple to Wainwrights quarter in Leipzig. So Red will score 5 points for this bonus (5 tiles x 1 point per tile).

why?  :'(
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 30, 2020, 03:56:04 PM
Note by Meepledrone:

This post closes part of a discussion about the wrong interpretation of the rules for the Wainwrights quarter bonus in Question 12.

Check this topic for more information and the additional issues discussed about The Markets of Leipzig:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4956.0 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4956.0)



Wainwrights quarter is overpowered  ;D ;D ;D I thought that case only applied when you had two meeples.  :P

Thanks for the info Meepledrone!



In Q12

Quote
* The Wainwrights quarter bonus, since Red can score the bonus right away in the same turn he sends a meeple to Wainwrights quarter in Leipzig. So Red will score 5 points for this bonus (5 tiles x 1 point per tile).

why?  :'(

This is a tricky thing in the rules:  >:D

Quote
If you send a meeple into the Wainwrights Quarter you will get the bonus points (see below) immediately.

Check the last sentence in first bullet after the example where a meeple is sent to Leipzig...
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Markets_of_Leipzig (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Markets_of_Leipzig)
Don't be cheat Meepledrone. The context says

‘If you have more than one meeple on the road you are allowed to send one of them to Leipzig. With the other(s) you can, however, score the points for the road [4]. If you send a meeple into the Wainwrights Quarter you will get the bonus points (see below) immediately.’

Therefore if you write one sentence followed by the other in that context you are talking about the case of more than 1 meeple on a road and that you place one in Leipzig. If what you want to say is that THAT ALWAYS HAPPENS and not only with the example of more than one meeple, you have to put the phrase apart at another point to differentiate it. Not point and followed ... Because it can lead to misinterpretation...


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I think that both of you are right. I think the impression made in me by that post (the one I referenced above) made me interpret the rules in a wrong way. Thank you for pointing out the issue.  :(y) :(y)

As per the arrangement of the text, the sentence I quoted has to be considered only if you have more than one meeple on a road and you send one of them to Leipzig.

I will have to reevaluate Q12 accordingly. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: carlium on December 30, 2020, 08:07:11 PM
 :) Thanks to you Meepledrone for organizing this quiz (and even to hear our complains and questions hehehe). I can imagine the time you put to do it. It is remarkable. This is my second quiz since I am registered here and I have enjoyed both a lot.

+1

 :red-meeple:
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 01:50:36 AM
Thanks, Carlium!

It is my pleasure. Yep, it is taking some time to post all the results, but I think any discussion around the results is beneficial for everyone. As you can see, we all can learn new stuff from each other, including myself.  ;)

BTW, I already updated the rankings for question 12, 13 and 14.

I proceed then with the next one...
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 01:51:34 AM
Question #15: The Yellow Messenger landed on a dark space. As a result, Yellow receives the message shown by
The Grinch. How many points does Yellow score for this message when applied to this feature?

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Answer #15: after receiving this message, Yellow will have to score the city as if after the game and remove the meeple.

Yellow will the score 5 points for the city:
- The city itself is worth 0 points ( 5 tiles x 0 points for the cathedral)
- The Mage bonus is 5 points ( 5 tiles x 1 point per tile for the mage )

Yellow will also receive 3 points for the fairy next to their meeple.

Notes:
* The German castle bonus is not applicable during final scoring.
* The Mage bonus is applied during the game and after the game for incomplete features, even if the incomplete feature scores 0 points due to an inn or a cathedral, like in this case. The Mage bonus is applied after the inn or cathedral.

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 8 points in two scoring events (5 points for the city with the mage + 3 points for the fairy)

Final note: Yellow could also renounce to score any points for the feature and receive 2 points for the message instead. However this case is not the answer expected for this question.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 02:31:19 AM
Question #16: The Snowman places this abbey on behalf of Blue. How many points does each player score?

PS: There are no large meeples in this question.

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Answer #16: They abbey placed is incomplete so Blue scores no points for it.

The completed city has 5 tiles and 2 coats of arms. Note that the bridge on the Spiel'19 tile connects both city segments. Additionally, Yellow has the majority in the city thanks to their mayor and the two coats of arms. So only Yellow scores for the city, which is worth 14 points ( (5 tiles + 2 coats of arms) x 2 points = 7 x 2 = 14 points)

Bottomline:
- Blue scores 0 points, since the abbey is not complete.
- Red scores 0 points.
- Yellow scores 14 points.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 03:03:43 AM
Question #17: Santa Claus places this tile. How will manage Red and Yellow to be robbed the least points possible? How many points will each player score?

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Answer #17: The tile placed completes:
- A city occupied by Red worth 6 points (3 tiles x 2 points)
- A road occupied by Yellow worth 3 points (3 tiles x 1 point)
- A castle occupied by Red worth 3 points, as the scoring is triggered by the road.

So Red has to score the city and the castle and Yellow has to score the road. The field is not scored so Blue receives no points for it.

As a result of the configuration on the scoreboard...
- The Red Robber will steal 0 points from Yellow if Yellow scores with their messenger.
- The Yellow Robber may steal points from any of the Red Scoring Figures. So Red has to score both features with the same scoring figure starting by the one with the least points to minimize the points stolen by Yellow Robber.

Note that scoring with robbers has to be planned ahead, not per feature scored. If Red decides to score each feature with a different scoring figure, Yellow Robber would be able to choose which one to steal from, since it would have visibility over the first scoring of each scoring figure used. So the key point here is to move only one of the scoring figures to allow the Yellow Robber no choice but the least evil for Red.

So the scoring sequence would be as follows, assuming Red decides to score with their scoring meeple only (it would have the same effect if Red would decide to use their messenger for both scorings instead):
1. First features scored:
  - Red scores 3 points for the castle with the Red Scoring Meeple
  - Yellow scores 3 points for the road with the Yellow Messenger.
2. If possible, robbers steal points and they are removed:
  - The Yellow Robber steals 2 points from the Red Scoring Meeple (3 points / 2 rounded up)  and is then removed from the scoreboard and returned to its owner.
  - The Red Robber cannot steal from Yellow so it stays on the scoreboard.
3. The remaining feature is scored.
  - Red scores 6 points for the city with the Red Scoring Meeple so no more points can be stolen.
 
Notes: If it was Yellow's turn and the 2 points stolen by the Yellow Robber were scored by the Yellow Scoring Meeple, Yellow would receive a message. That would mean a separate scoring or 2 points.
 
Bottomline:
- Red scores 9 points in two separate scoring events (3 points for the castle + 6 points for the city)
- Yellow scores 5 points in two separate scoring events (3 points for the road + 2 stolen points)

Final note: When playing with robbers, the order followed to evaluate each feature may not match the order used to score them. In this case, the castle is evaluated last (due to its dependencies) but it has to be scored first to minimize the points stolen from Red.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 03:11:11 AM
Question #18: Danisthirty places a tile that completes two road networks. How many points does each player receive?

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Answer #18: The tile completes two road networks with several tunnels.

The road network with blue tunnels is occupied by Red. The road has 5 tiles so Red scores 5 points (5 tiles x 1 point per tile).

The road network with yellow and red tunnels is occupied by Yellow and Blue. Each of them score 9 points (9 tiles x 1 point per tile).

Note: Don't be fooled by tiles that participate more than once in a road because they contain a printed road segment and a bridge, or two printed road segments belonging to the same road network (roads looping back, road connected by tunnels,...). You only count each tile once no matter if it contributes more than once in a road network.

Bottomline:
- Blue scores 9 points
- Red scores 5 points
- Yellow scores 9 points
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: corinthiens13 on December 31, 2020, 04:45:41 AM
Question #17:
[...]
- The Yellow Robber may steal points from any of the Red Scoring Figures. So Red has to score both features with the same scoring figure starting by the one with the least points to minimize the points stolen by Yellow Robber.
[...]

Aaw, I thought the two robber and meeple lines on the scoreboard were on two separate spaces (one on 3, one on 4)  :'(
Stupid mistake, I should have looked more carefully ! :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 31, 2020, 05:03:27 AM
That's not a big deal... You're still first... But you surely give us some points !  >:D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on December 31, 2020, 05:04:32 AM
 :( :( I had the same mistake,eheh
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: carlium on December 31, 2020, 08:17:37 AM
My case with Q17 was worst, I got the right score (Same as Meepledrone reports) but apparently something in my explanation makes my answer invalid :( that mini expansion is tricky  :)

happy to see how it goes in the following questions hehe
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 09:35:31 AM
Question #19: The Grinch completes this road. How many points does Red scores if the Fairy was placed next to the meeple this turn? The Fairy was by the scoreboard previously.

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Answer #19: The fairy is placed during the current turn, so Red scores no fairy bonus at the beginning of this turn.

The completed 5-tile road will be affected by the following elements:
- An inn
- A German cathedral
- A German castle
- The Witch

Red will score for the road 11 points, according to the following steps:
1. The road core feature scoring is 15 points (5 tiles x (1 point per tile + 1 point for the German cathedral + 1 point for the inn) = 5 x 3 = 15 points)
2. The Witch penalty is applied on top of these points, so the road is worth 8 points at this point (15 points / 2 for the Witch = 8 points after rounding up)
3. The German castle bonus is applied after the Witch, so the road is worth 11 points (8 for the road + 3 points for the German castle)

Note that the German castle bonus is scored only once even if two legs of the road end at the same German castle.

Additionally, Red will score 3 points for the fairy next to their meeple.

Bottomline:
- Red scores 14 points in two separate scoring events (11 points for the road + 3 points for the fairy).
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 09:38:25 AM
Question #20: Gingerbread Man and Dorothy are also intrigued with this monastery just completed on the border. How many points does Red score for it?

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Answer #20: The monastery on the border is completed although it is not fully surrounded by tiles. Red will score 7 points for it.

Note that you have to consider normal tiles and printed tiles but printed semicircular segments on the border are not considered. In this case there are 6 normal tiles and 1 printed tile featuring "München".

Bottomline:
- Red scores 7 points for the monastery.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 09:45:49 AM
Question #21: The Snowman places a tile that completes the road occupied by Yellow. How many points does each player score?

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Answer #21: As soon as the tile is placed, the road is completed. Since the road is connected to the Solovei Razboynik tile, the Yellow Meeple is trapped right away by Solovei Razboynik and moves to that tile. As a result, the completed road is left unoccupied. As a result, Yellow scores no points for the road.

However, the completion of the road triggers the scoring of the nearby castle occupied by Red. The player will score the same points the road is worth, that is, 7 points (7 tiles x 1 point per tile).

Notes:
* The road segment on the Solovei Razboynik tile passes behind the tree and is not interrupted.
* The Bogatyr tile features a stone that delimits two separate road segments:
   - One with three connected legs, which is part of the road being scored in this case
   - Another separate road segment, connected to the monastery in this case, which is not part of the road being scored

Bottomline:
- Red scores 7 points.
- Yellow scores no points
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 10:16:32 AM
Question #22: The game ended. How many points does each player score in this scenario Santa Claus has put together for you?

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Answer #22: In this after the game scenario we have two features:
* A German monastery occupied by a Yellow Meeple placed as an abbot
* An incomplete German castle occupied by Blue

If we apply the C2 rules from 2020, we have the following outcome. In this case, all tiles are counted individually (the same as in the clarifications from 10/2015), except when scoring features that are completed when surrounded by tiles. In the latter case, we score the features by counting occupied spaces no matter the tiles occupying them (a mixed tile/grid-oriented approach). Note: In case of the Baba Yaga tile, we would count empty square paces as usual.

Yellow will score 7 points (1 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 2):
* 1 point for the monastery tile
* 2 points for the Halfling tiles on the column above it
* 1 point for the tile on the column below it
* 1 point for the tile on the row to the left
* 2 points for the tiles on the row to the right, the Halfling tile and the German castle tile.

Blue will score 6 points (2 points for the German castle tile + 1 point per occupied space adjacent to it). Note that it does not matter if a space is occupied by a regular square tile, one Halfling tile or two Halfling tiles.

Bottomline:
- Blue scores 6 points.
- Yellow scores 7 points.



We can also have two other possible results if we apply the previous rulesets:

>> C1 rules from 2014 (extended to all features): Two tiles in the same square are counted as 1 tile (full grid-oriented approach).

Yellow will score 6 points (1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 2):
* 1 point for the monastery tile
* 1 point for the Halfling tiles on the column above it, counted as 1 tile
* 1 point for the tile on the column below it
* 1 point for the tile on the row to the left
* 2 points for the tiles on the row to the right, the Halfling tile and the German castle tile.

Blue will score 6 points (2 points for the German castle tile + 1 point per occupied space adjacent to it). Note that it does not matter if the space is occupied by a regular square tile, one Halfling tile or two Halfling tiles.

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 6 points.
- Blue scores 6 points.

>> C1 rules with clarifications from 10/2015: Each tile is counted individually even for monasteries and German castles (full tile-oriented approach):

Yellow will score 7 points (1 + 2 + 1 + 1 + 2):
* 1 point for the monastery tile
* 2 points for the Halfling tiles on the column above it
* 1 point for the tile on the column below it
* 1 point for the tile on the row to the left
* 2 points for the tiles on the row to the right, the Halfling tile and the German castle tile.

Blue will score 7 points (2 points for the German castle tile + 1 point per tile adjacent to it). Note that Halflings are counted individually.

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 7 points.
- Blue scores 7 points.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 10:26:32 AM
Question #23: Danisthirty put together this final-scoring scenario for you. How many points does each player score?

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Answer #23: In this scenario there are two fields to be scored: one occupied by Red and the other has the Yellow Barn
 
Red will score the field with the besieged city, taking into account the pig. Red will score 8 points (1 city x ( (3 points for the city + 1 point for the pig) x 2 for the siege) = 1 x (4 x 2) = 8 points)

Yellow will score the barn taking into consideration the 2-tile city and the same city as Red. Note the city bridge on the Spiel'20 tile touches the field with the Yellow Barn.

Yellow will then score 12 points:
- The 2-tile city is worth 4 points for the barn
- The besieged city is worth 8 points (4 points x 2 for the siege)

Bottomline:
- Red scores 8 points
- Yellow scores 12 points
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 11:39:30 AM
Question #24: The Wizard of Carcassonne places the tile with the Yellow Wagon, and asks the following questions:
1) How many points does each player score? The Wizard of Carcassonne is only interested in the highest score for each player. [1-5 points]
2) What feature(s) did Red complete to get the Orange Teacher? [1 point]
3) What is the least points Red can receive from the Orange Teacher? [1 point]
4) After scoring, what happens to the Blue Meeple and the fairy? [1 point]
5) After scoring, what possible features can the Yellow Wagon be moved to? [1 point]
6) After scoring, which player gets the Orange Teacher? [1 point]

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Answer #24: This scenario includes two official PnP Expansions: The City Gates and the Fortune Teller.
* The Red Phantom occupies the road just completed leading to the school.
* The Yellow Wagon occupies the 1-tile city completing the road leading to the school and the fortune teller tent.
* The Blue Meeple occupies the fortune teller tent just completed

The answer to the questions is as follows:

1) Points scored per player

Yellow will score 4 points for the 1-tile city. This is a special case from The City Gates. Yellow will also score 3 points for completing the fortune teller tent.

Blue will score 0 points for the fortune teller tent itself. However, Blue will receive the 3 points for the fairy next to the fortune teller.

Note: Remember that it is Yellow's turn so Blue does not get the 1-point bonus for the fairy.

Red will score 5 points for the road (5 tiles x 1 point per tile).

Additionally, Red is in possession of the Teacher. Red may choose which completed feature to receive points from:
- The completed fortune teller tent worth 0 points (note that points for the completion of the tent or the fairy bonus are not considered part of the feature scoring)
- The completed city worth 4 points
- The completed road worth 5 points
Red will then score 5 points for the Teacher, in order to get the most points as requested.

Bottomline:
- Blue will score 3 points for the fairy.
- Red will score 10 points in two separate scoring events (5 points for the road + 5 points for the teacher).
- Yellow will score 7 points in two separate scoring events (4 points for the city + 3 points for completing the fortune teller tent).

2) Feature(s) completed by Red to get the Teacher

Red completed the first road to the right of the school with a City Gates tile. At that point this tile could be the first tile placed for that city or the second, completing it.

3) Least points the Teacher can score in this scenario

The Teacher may decide to score 0 points for the fortune teller tent.

4) What happens to the Blue Meeple and the fairy

The Blue Meeple on the fortune teller tent will be removed and returned to its owner's supply, since it is completed. The fairy stays on the tile.

As an additional note, Blue will not be able to draw an additional tile in next draws without this fortune teller.

5) Where the Yellow Wagon can move

The Yellow Wagon will be returned to its owner's supply in C1 and C2:
- In C1: the wagon cannot drive through the school to an unoccupied incomplete road. The school is a special area that can only be occupied by a Teacher.
- In C2: there is no incomplete unoccupied feature on any adjacent tile. 

6) Who gets the Orange Teacher

After scoring, Yellow will get the Teacher for completing a road leading to the school.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 11:42:05 AM
- Meeple Council: Congratulations, corinthiens13!!! You are the winner of the Advent Calendar Quiz MMXX.  ;D
- Meepledrone: I would also like to thank all the participants, who worked so hard answering all the questions.
- Meepledrone: I hope that everyone enjoyed it as much as I did running it.   ;D
- The Grinch: (to Meepledrone) What's up with you? You love the spotlight, huh?  >:(
- Meepledrone: Er... I was just...
- The Grinch: Will you shut up for once and for all?
- Santa Claus: Come on, he's been working really hard!
- The Grinch: Have any proof?
- Meepledrone: I can show you...
- The Grinch: You show me what? Shut up and do your thing... quick!
- Meepledrone: I just wanted to remind the winner to send me his address by PM so I can send him the prize...
- The Grinch: And?
- Danisthirty: (whispering something)  :-[
- The Grinch: And?
- Fir Tree: (a branch bends in the winds)  :o
- Snowman: (muttering) ...participants...
- Meepledrone: Ah yes... and also those participants who want a little something... please send me your address by PM to.
- The Grinch: Shoo, shoo! Go back to your box! If you send them something other than a toothpick, I will...
- Wicked Witch of the West: (shouting from the distant) Grinchieeee? Don't forget your bad deed of the day!!!
- The Grinch: (squealing back) YEEEESS, MOTHER!!! I'M ON IT!!!
- Wicked Witch of the West: Otherwise you will...
- The Grinch: ...have to smile for 10 seconds! (to himself) Yes, I know  :(
- Santa Claus: (to the Grinch) Go to your mother and tell her the bad news... We have a winner!  ;)
- Meepledrone: May I... go?
- The Grinch: Why are you still here? You have some stuff to mail >:(
- Easter Bunny: Will you shut up?
- The Grinch: (leaving) I'm just warming up for 2021...
- Danisthirty: (thinking out loud) I'm so happy the issue with the tile was not my fault...
- Fir Tree: (making a fart) >:D
- Danisthirty: Are you implying something?  :o
- Easter Bunny: (whispering) Well... This is a never ending story... ???
- Easter Bunny: Happy 2021 to everybody!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: carlium on December 31, 2020, 11:50:34 AM
Thanks Meepledrone for the quiz, it was very good. I had pretty good time answering it :)

Congrats to corinthiens13 well done! 

:red-meeple:

Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on December 31, 2020, 12:19:50 PM
CONGRATULATION CORINTHIEN 13 !! HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY and special thank's to MEEPLEDRONE !!!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: corinthiens13 on December 31, 2020, 12:43:27 PM
Wow, thanks everybody. I did never think I could win when answering the questions!

Congratulations to every participant, and specially to Meepledrone for the hard work! +1 merit

And congrats Carlium, you were a really good opponent! +1 merit too

Happy new year to everyone!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: wolnic on December 31, 2020, 12:51:10 PM
Well done Corinthiens 13, and a big thank you to meepledrone for the effort he's put in creating the quiz, doing the scoring and explanations, and keeping us amused with the ongoing chatter between the individuals. Merit from me.

For next year I must try and remember to look for hidden and half tiles, and not to assume that all meeples are the same - didn't spot at least one builder and mayor ...

Happy and safe New Year to all.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on December 31, 2020, 02:08:33 PM
Congratulations to corinthiens13, that is a really great result! You were very quick all of the time and have a fantastic knowledge of the rules!
+ 1 merit from me!
????

The competition was a tough one this year, the level of experience has increased tremendously ????

@Meepledrone,
Would it be possible to post also the ranking with just the number of the  correct answers, in other words pretending that the reaction times would not matter. Just wondering if I would be able to keep up with all these great competitors knowledge wise  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on December 31, 2020, 04:15:11 PM
hello everyone looking at a ranking of all the questions, I would also give a premium
 to vital pluymers who answered correctly to 23 questions out of 24
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on December 31, 2020, 04:23:41 PM
ranking sorry Meepledrone if I check the list
vital pluymers 23 correct
corinthien13 and carcassone93 correct 21
dr,meeple correct 19
gagoune and carlium 18
wolnic and 6rouge4 14
wilem 13
davide 12
bumsakalaka 10
sinscerly,oldbonz,cicerunner 3
ker42,my1050220,halfing,mmike,kaleostro 2
decar,dugrand1,bonsomcarcf,murphy013 1
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 31, 2020, 04:32:03 PM
Hello everyone !

@Meepledrone : Thank you very much for this quiz (a first for me).

And congratulations to Corinthiens13 for his victory !

I would like to had that I wish an happy new year to each yof you, members of CarcC !!

@Meepledrone, I've got a question :

One sentence said the contrary of the other... On the one hand, it's said that points for the completion of the tent (...) are not considered part of the feature scoring and on the other  hand, the same teacher may decide to score 0 points for the fortune teller tent...
Question #24: ...
- The completed fortune teller tent worth 0 points (note that points for the completion of the tent or the fairy bonus are not considered part of the feature scoring)
AND
3) Least points the Teacher can score in this scenario
The Teacher may decide to score 0 points for the fortune teller tent.
I don't understand if something is not allowed at first, why is it just few line in a second time without any change in the game ?

Could you explain it to me please ? And thank again for this really nice story and game !
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 05:07:46 PM
First of all, Happy New Year!

Hello everyone !

@Meepledrone : Thank you very much for this quiz (a first for me).

Thank you! It's been a pleasure and even a more challenging experience than last year!  ;D

And congratulations to Corinthiens13 for his victory !

I would like to had that I wish an happy new year to each yof you, members of CarcC !!

I would like to congratulate everyone, I've sitting on the edge of my seat everyday checking the answers and following who was  becoming the leader in this quiz. Anything could happen each day. I've been surprised with the level of the participants...  :(y) :(y)

@Meepledrone, I've got a question :

One sentence said the contrary of the other... On the one hand, it's said that points for the completion of the tent (...) are not considered part of the feature scoring and on the other  hand, the same teacher may decide to score 0 points for the fortune teller tent...
Question #24: ...
- The completed fortune teller tent worth 0 points (note that points for the completion of the tent or the fairy bonus are not considered part of the feature scoring)
AND
3) Least points the Teacher can score in this scenario
The Teacher may decide to score 0 points for the fortune teller tent.
I don't understand if something is not allowed at first, why is it just few line in a second time without any change in the game ?

Could you explain it to me please ? And thank again for this really nice story and game !
Sure!

The Fortune Teller Tent is a very particular feature. When completed...
* The occupier receives 0 points for the feature itself (the player already enjoyed the beneft of drawing additional tiles). These are the points the teacher (or a castle) could receive. (This is what I mention in the second sentence in red: the points for the feature itself)
* The player who places the tile completing the fortune teller tent receives 3 points. This is a bonus for the player, like getting the trade goods for completed city when playing with T&B, but this time the bonus consists in points. It has nothing to do with scoring  the feature itself. Therefore this bonus cannot be trigger the scoring of a castle or be received by the teacher. (This is what I mention in the first sentence in red: the points bonus points for the player completing the feature)

Let me know if this makes things more clear.  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: corinthiens13 on December 31, 2020, 05:25:40 PM
ranking sorry dr meeple if I check the list
vital pluymers 23 correct
corinthien13 and carcassone93 correct 21
dr,meeple correct 19
gagoune and carlium 18
wolnic and 6rouge4 14
wilem 13
davide 12
bumsakalaka 10
sinscerly,oldbonz,cicerunner 3
ker42,my1050220,halfing,mmike,kaleostro 2
decar,dugrand1,bonsomcarcf,murphy013 1

Congratulations Vital Pluymers, correct answers winner!  :(y)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on December 31, 2020, 05:26:38 PM
@Meepledrone : Ok... So, the Teacher can score the 0 points from the scoring of the Fortune Teller Tent ?  ???

--------------------
@Everyone :
INFO : French pdf version completed here : http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532(/url] (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on December 31, 2020, 05:44:38 PM
@Meepledrone : Ok... So, the Teacher can score the 0 points from the scoring of the Fortune Teller Tent ?  ???

--------------------
@Everyone :
INFO : French pdf version completed here : http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532(/url]
 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=532)

Sad, but yes. It is the points the player gets for the feature. Something similar would happen with a small city with a mayor for example (sorry no coats of arms :'()
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 01, 2021, 08:46:05 AM
@Meepledrone thank you for this quest :)
+1 is not enought
We all see that it's a lot of rules which we use not correctly even on standard large expansion (castle).
So we start again in Slovakia quarantine so it will be more time for play and read rules :)

Odoslané z SM-A202F pomocou Tapatalku

Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on January 01, 2021, 09:27:27 AM
ranking sorry dr meeple if I check the list
vital pluymers 23 correct
corinthien13 and carcassone93 correct 21
dr,meeple correct 19
gagoune and carlium 18
wolnic and 6rouge4 14
wilem 13
davide 12
bumsakalaka 10
sinscerly,oldbonz,cicerunner 3
ker42,my1050220,halfing,mmike,kaleostro 2
decar,dugrand1,bonsomcarcf,murphy013 1

Congratulations Vital Pluymers, correct answers winner!  :(y)

Thank you! Happy I got a decent result after all! ????
Still a pity that I made that one stupid mistake. It was not that I didn't know the correct rules, just stupid ????
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 01, 2021, 10:43:17 AM
@Meepledrone thank you for this quest :)
+1 is not enought
We all see that it's a lot of rules which we use not correctly even on standard large expansion (castle).
So we start again in Slovakia quarantine so it will be more time for play and read rules :)

Odoslané z SM-A202F pomocou Tapatalku

Thanks, Bumsakalaka!

Thank you so much for participating  ;D

There are many small details in the wording with terrible implications when combined. Hope this helped shed some light in weird cases that may happen... When I started with this I got amazed with all the complexity you could accumulate with a few tiles...  ;)

Hope the lockdown ends soon and you can lighten up those hours at home with a bit of Carcassonne.

Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 01, 2021, 10:47:29 AM
ranking sorry dr meeple if I check the list
vital pluymers 23 correct
corinthien13 and carcassone93 correct 21
dr,meeple correct 19
gagoune and carlium 18
wolnic and 6rouge4 14
wilem 13
davide 12
bumsakalaka 10
sinscerly,oldbonz,cicerunner 3
ker42,my1050220,halfing,mmike,kaleostro 2
decar,dugrand1,bonsomcarcf,murphy013 1

Congratulations Vital Pluymers, correct answers winner!  :(y)

Thank you! Happy I got a decent result after all! ????
Still a pity that I made that one stupid mistake. It was not that I didn't know the correct rules, just stupid ????

Congrats Vital Plymers!

Don't be so hard on yourself! Your knowledge of the rules and their intricacies is remarkable.

Thank you so much for participating. I imagine your timing was tighter than last year too.

Have fun and a Happy New Year!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 01, 2021, 11:15:34 AM
Congratulations to corinthiens13, that is a really great result! You were very quick all of the time and have a fantastic knowledge of the rules!
+ 1 merit from me!
????

The competition was a tough one this year, the level of experience has increased tremendously ????

Thanks, Vital Pluymers!

While posting the responses, I was wondering if any of you would end up hating the game...  :o

I can tell you it's been thrilling and exciting even behind the scenes.

@Meepledrone,
Would it be possible to post also the ranking with just the number of the  correct answers, in other words pretending that the reaction times would not matter. Just wondering if I would be able to keep up with all these great competitors knowledge wise  ;)

ranking sorry Meepledrone if I check the list
vital pluymers 23 correct
corinthien13 and carcassone93 correct 21
dr,meeple correct 19
gagoune and carlium 18
wolnic and 6rouge4 14
wilem 13
davide 12
bumsakalaka 10
sinscerly,oldbonz,cicerunner 3
ker42,my1050220,halfing,mmike,kaleostro 2
decar,dugrand1,bonsomcarcf,murphy013 1

Thanks for the stats, davide!  I got the same result just by assigning 1 point to each correct response.

Here you are the results considering only the main questions (same result as davide) and a second version considering also the extra questions from Day 24... just for fun!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on January 01, 2021, 11:40:58 AM
hello Meepledrone, you should, always if you have time, heheh give a course to learn to point out carcassone characteristics and expansions !! would be very nice
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 02, 2021, 05:56:25 AM
hello Meepledrone, you should, always if you have time, heheh give a course to learn to point out carcassone characteristics and expansions !! would be very nice

 :o

For example?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on January 02, 2021, 10:22:24 AM
for example,we can start to  answer about ..small buildings how many point give in alls variants expansions,or the barn how many point give in all variants expansions ,,,,some like that
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: DrMeeple on January 02, 2021, 11:46:27 AM
for example,we can start to  answer about ..small buildings how many point give in alls variants expansions,or the barn how many point give in all variants expansions ,,,,some like that

Do you know the wikicarpedia website or WICA?
Perhaps you could make a topic. with tutorials on how to combine expansions etc ... What do you think Meepledrone?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 02, 2021, 11:51:06 AM
OK!

For the barn, I don't if you have seen this summary available on WICA:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Abbey_and_the_Mayor#Scoring_summary (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Abbey_and_the_Mayor#Scoring_summary)

You can check this page on Little Buildings as well:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Little_Buildings_(1st_edition) (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Little_Buildings_(1st_edition))

But if you want to see how everything fits together, you can check this page about scoring during the game and after the game (you can select what expansions you want to combine):
* During de game:
   - Full detail:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Scoring_During_Turn_Sequence (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Scoring_During_Turn_Sequence)
   - Summary:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Scoring_During_the_Game (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Scoring_During_the_Game)
* After the game:
   - Summary:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Scoring_After_the_Game (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Scoring_After_the_Game)

Let me know if this helps  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 02, 2021, 11:57:12 AM
If on the other hand, you are interested in the sequence of actions, you can check the following (you can select what expansions you want to combine):
- Global structure of a game:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Game_Reference (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Game_Reference)
  - It has sections on game setup sequence and final scoring sequence 
- Turn sequence during the game:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Order_of_Play (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Order_of_Play)

Some ideas for Mega Carcassonne games too:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Mega-Carcassonne (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Mega-Carcassonne)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 02, 2021, 11:59:13 AM
I'm always open to suggestions for new contents for WICA. What is the angle you suggest: Sequence of actions, scoring...?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Decar on January 04, 2021, 03:37:29 AM
Well done Meepledrone.

Sorry I couldn't take part. I was hoping to sit down a few days after Xmas before New Year and give these a go.  Unfortunately, I wasn't able to make it before the answers started coming out....

I'm guessing it's too late to submit answers now.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on January 04, 2021, 04:21:14 AM
Quote
Thanks, Vital Pluymers!

While posting the responses, I was wondering if any of you would end up hating the game...  :o

Not me, I like it all the way.
I liked that there was a lot of variation in the questions, that most of the expansions got their moment of fame and that I always had to look very carefully for the snag in the grass  :D

For me personally, winning the quiz is not my objective as I cannot cope with the time element anyway. But I am always interested in applying the correct rules (also when playing one of my 350 other board games  >:D ). Therefore I really appreciate the challenges you gave us to test our knowledge of the game rules and the interaction between all the different features of the expansions.

Some people may think that all these expansions are not necessary and take away the original spirit of the base game. But on the other hand, without them, how would so many people ever stay so active on a forum sharing their thoughts about just one particular board game? ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: MeepleFriend on January 04, 2021, 03:34:44 PM
Well done Meepledrone.

Sorry I couldn't take part. I was hoping to sit down a few days after Xmas before New Year and give these a go.  Unfortunately, I wasn't able to make it before the answers started coming out....

I'm guessing it's too late to submit answers now.


Yes, well done Meepledrone! Apart from my participation the first day, I too was hoping to quickly catch up after Advent was over, but alas, it wasn't meant to be! I've really enjoyed both the puzzles you created and the whimsy with the story that went along with it-- bravo!  :))
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 05, 2021, 06:23:59 AM
Well done Meepledrone.

Sorry I couldn't take part. I was hoping to sit down a few days after Xmas before New Year and give these a go.  Unfortunately, I wasn't able to make it before the answers started coming out....

I'm guessing it's too late to submit answers now.


Yes, well done Meepledrone! Apart from my participation the first day, I too was hoping to quickly catch up after Advent was over, but alas, it wasn't meant to be! I've really enjoyed both the puzzles you created and the whimsy with the story that went along with it-- bravo!  :))

You are welcome!I'm glad you liked it all. ^-^

December passed in a jiffy, even for me. I could also tell how busy you all were.  :o
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: 6ruoge4 on January 06, 2021, 03:48:06 AM
Thank you very much also from me for the game which, besides the fun, allows a thorough study of the rules.
For WICA I suggest to insert a reference to the score of the castles connected to the German cathedrals (Q4)
Happy New Year

6ruoge4
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Carcassonne93 on January 11, 2021, 06:49:42 PM
Question #15: The Yellow Messenger landed on a dark space. As a result, Yellow receives the message shown by
The Grinch. How many points does Yellow score for this message when applied to this feature?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13392)



Answer #15: after receiving this message, Yellow will have to score the city as if after the game and remove the meeple.

Yellow will the score 5 points for the city:
- The city itself is worth 0 points ( 5 tiles x 0 points for the cathedral)
- The Mage bonus is 5 points ( 5 tiles x 1 point per tile for the mage )

Yellow will also receive 3 points for the fairy next to their meeple.

Notes:
* The German castle bonus is not applicable during final scoring.
* The Mage bonus is applied during the game and after the game for incomplete features, even if the incomplete feature scores 0 points due to an inn or a cathedral, like in this case. The Mage bonus is applied after the inn or cathedral.

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 8 points in two scoring events (5 points for the city with the mage + 3 points for the fairy)

Final note: Yellow could also renounce to score any points for the feature and receive 2 points for the message instead. However this case is not the answer expected for this question.

The mage remains on the tile?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on January 12, 2021, 01:01:23 AM
Question #15: The Yellow Messenger landed on a dark space. As a result, Yellow receives the message shown by
The Grinch. How many points does Yellow score for this message when applied to this feature?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13392)



Answer #15: after receiving this message, Yellow will have to score the city as if after the game and remove the meeple.

Yellow will the score 5 points for the city:
- The city itself is worth 0 points ( 5 tiles x 0 points for the cathedral)
- The Mage bonus is 5 points ( 5 tiles x 1 point per tile for the mage )

Yellow will also receive 3 points for the fairy next to their meeple.

Notes:
* The German castle bonus is not applicable during final scoring.
* The Mage bonus is applied during the game and after the game for incomplete features, even if the incomplete feature scores 0 points due to an inn or a cathedral, like in this case. The Mage bonus is applied after the inn or cathedral.

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 8 points in two scoring events (5 points for the city with the mage + 3 points for the fairy)

Final note: Yellow could also renounce to score any points for the feature and receive 2 points for the message instead. However this case is not the answer expected for this question.

The mage remains on the tile?

Yes, the mage stays in the city until the city is completed or until he is relocated after placing a new mage/witch tile.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Bumsakalaka on January 12, 2021, 01:14:30 AM
Question #15: The Yellow Messenger landed on a dark space. As a result, Yellow receives the message shown by
The Grinch. How many points does Yellow score for this message when applied to this feature?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13392)



Answer #15: after receiving this message, Yellow will have to score the city as if after the game and remove the meeple.

Yellow will the score 5 points for the city:
- The city itself is worth 0 points ( 5 tiles x 0 points for the cathedral)
- The Mage bonus is 5 points ( 5 tiles x 1 point per tile for the mage )

Yellow will also receive 3 points for the fairy next to their meeple.

Notes:
* The German castle bonus is not applicable during final scoring.
* The Mage bonus is applied during the game and after the game for incomplete features, even if the incomplete feature scores 0 points due to an inn or a cathedral, like in this case. The Mage bonus is applied after the inn or cathedral.

Bottomline:
- Yellow scores 8 points in two scoring events (5 points for the city with the mage + 3 points for the fairy)

Final note: Yellow could also renounce to score any points for the feature and receive 2 points for the message instead. However this case is not the answer expected for this question.

The mage remains on the tile?
Yop ;-)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 12, 2021, 01:43:45 AM
Correct. The feature was not properly scored in 3. Scoring a feature, so the Mage stays put.

In other cases, there may be more meeples on the same feature that would participate in the usual scoring when the feature is completed. So the Mage should stay on the feature until that moment, unless moved elsewhere of course.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Carcassonne93 on January 21, 2021, 04:25:05 AM
Question #17: Santa Claus places this tile. How will manage Red and Yellow to be robbed the least points possible? How many points will each player score?

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4911.0;attach=13402)



Answer #17: The tile placed completes:
- A city occupied by Red worth 6 points (3 tiles x 2 points)
- A road occupied by Yellow worth 3 points (3 tiles x 1 point)
- A castle occupied by Red worth 3 points, as the scoring is triggered by the road.

So Red has to score the city and the castle and Yellow has to score the road. The field is not scored so Blue receives no points for it.

As a result of the configuration on the scoreboard...
- The Red Robber will steal 0 points from Yellow if Yellow scores with their messenger.
- The Yellow Robber may steal points from any of the Red Scoring Figures. So Red has to score both features with the same scoring figure starting by the one with the least points to minimize the points stolen by Yellow Robber.

Note that scoring with robbers has to be planned ahead, not per feature scored. If Red decides to score each feature with a different scoring figure, Yellow Robber would be able to choose which one to steal from, since it would have visibility over the first scoring of each scoring figure used. So the key point here is to move only one of the scoring figures to allow the Yellow Robber no choice but the least evil for Red.

So the scoring sequence would be as follows, assuming Red decides to score with their scoring meeple only (it would have the same effect if Red would decide to use their messenger for both scorings instead):
1. First features scored:
  - Red scores 3 points for the castle with the Red Scoring Meeple
  - Yellow scores 3 points for the road with the Yellow Messenger.
2. If possible, robbers steal points and they are removed:
  - The Yellow Robber steals 2 points from the Red Scoring Meeple (3 points / 2 rounded up)  and is then removed from the scoreboard and returned to its owner.
  - The Red Robber cannot steal from Yellow so it stays on the scoreboard.
3. The remaining feature is scored.
  - Red scores 6 points for the city with the Red Scoring Meeple so no more points can be stolen.
 
Notes: If it was Yellow's turn and the 2 points stolen by the Yellow Robber were scored by the Yellow Scoring Meeple, Yellow would receive a message. That would mean a separate scoring or 2 points.
 
Bottomline:
- Red scores 9 points in two separate scoring events (3 points for the castle + 6 points for the city)
- Yellow scores 5 points in two separate scoring events (3 points for the road + 2 stolen points)

Final note: When playing with robbers, the order followed to evaluate each feature may not match the order used to score them. In this case, the castle is evaluated last (due to its dependencies) but it has to be scored first to minimize the points stolen from Red.

"Example 3: The Blue player completes the city and scores 16 points. Because part of the city is neighboring your castle and is the first completed neighboring feature, you also score 16 points." The correct order should be:
- Yellow scores 3 points for the road with the Yellow Messenger.
- Red scores 3 points for the castle with the Red Scoring Meeple
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 21, 2021, 12:47:08 PM
Players may decide the order of their scorings affecting the same scoring figure. Robbers are not limited by the evaluation loop. That's the issue with the scoring loop and ROBBER CHOICE in the Order of Play I was talking about. You have to evaluate features following the order required but may score them in the order you decide. It is the only way to reconcile the scoring requirements with robbers.

Please check this clarification:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Robbers#cite_note-7 (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Robbers#cite_note-7)
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If a single scoring figure moves multiple times due to scoring of more than one feature with placement of a single tile, the player receiving the points chooses the order that points are awarded. If there is a robber beside that figure, the owner of the robber would thus receive half the points of only the first feature that is scored. Of course, if multiple figures on the same space receive points, the robber’s owner can still choose which figure to steal points from. (5/2013, 11/2014)

If you follow a strict scoring loop, especially with castles, you will end at impossible situations to score, like the ones in the following thread:
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=3151.0 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=3151.0)

Check the example below:
* How do you score this scenario if you handle only one feature at a time?
* Which castle do you score first?
* How many points does each castle score?
Mix this with robbers and bathhouses...  >:D

(http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3151.0;attach=7291)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: corinthiens13 on January 27, 2021, 02:51:21 AM
I did just get my prize, thanks a lot Meepledrone, I didn't expect such a prize !  :o   :D

But I'm gonna keep it secret, let's participate in next year's quizz, and maybe you'll get your prize  ;)

Everyone, let's practice and read WICA as bedtime reading to be prepared for next year  :yellow-meeple:


Oh, and +1 merit for Meepledrone for the amazing work for that quizz, it was really fun !  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Gagoune on January 27, 2021, 04:00:54 AM
Hey corinthiens13,
Once again congrats for your score!
Thanks to Meepledrone for the gift he sends to the participant! It was so nice!
I hope every one will want to participate to the next one!  :))
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Vital Pluymers on January 27, 2021, 04:26:45 AM
I did just get my prize, thanks a lot Meepledrone, I didn't expect such a prize !  :o   :D

But I'm gonna keep it secret, let's participate in next year's quizz, and maybe you'll get your prize  ;)

Everyone, let's practice and read WICA as bedtime reading to be prepared for next year  :yellow-meeple:


Oh, and +1 merit for Meepledrone for the amazing work for that quizz, it was really fun !  :yellow-meeple:

Got a present as well last week. And I admit, I was really happily surprised with this nice attention and kind words!  :D ^-^ 8)
So, thank You, Meepledrone!  :D

Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Willem on January 27, 2021, 09:56:18 AM
Same here!

Thank you very much Hector! It was good fun to participate, and if anything, it has taught me to pay a bit more attention to the rules hahaha
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 27, 2021, 11:00:54 AM
You are welcome!

It was worth it if you had fun!  ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: ny1050220 on January 27, 2021, 03:37:23 PM
Mine arrived, too! Thanks again, Meepledrone.
I had a lot of fun and a lot of "now I need to catch up with the new expansions" moments.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on January 27, 2021, 04:27:11 PM
Glad to hear! It didn't take long compared to the deliveries to Europe.  ???

You can see we started 2021 throwing away anything we took for granted in 10/2015 about double-sized tiles and halfings... So be ready for anything.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Allograft on February 08, 2021, 11:27:52 AM

Got a present as well last week. And I admit, I was really happily surprised with this nice attention and kind words!  :D ^-^ 8)
So, thank You, Meepledrone!  :D

Wow! Are those hand-painted?
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on February 08, 2021, 11:35:13 AM
Nope! They are character meeples you can find on Meeplesource.com (http://www.meeplesource.com (http://www.meeplesource.com)). Their size is around 19mm, similar to a large meeple. You can browse their catalog here:

https://www.meeplesource.com/products.php?cat=17 (https://www.meeplesource.com/products.php?cat=17)

You can even find a Danisthirty meeple:  :o

https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=Dan- (https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=Dan-)

(https://www.meeplesource.com/prodimages/NewCharacters/Dan1a.jpg)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Allograft on February 13, 2021, 12:01:14 PM
Nope! They are character meeples you can find on Meeplesource.com (http://www.meeplesource.com (http://www.meeplesource.com)). Their size is around 19mm, similar to a large meeple. You can browse their catalog here:

https://www.meeplesource.com/products.php?cat=17 (https://www.meeplesource.com/products.php?cat=17)

You can even find a Danisthirty meeple:  :o

https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=Dan- (https://www.meeplesource.com/proddetail.php?prod=Dan-)

(https://www.meeplesource.com/prodimages/NewCharacters/Dan1a.jpg)

Oh wow. I had no idea that there's such a universe of meeples out there. I'm a bit bewildered.

Here's a funny though...I had mentally inserted an extra "h," such that I thought @danisthirsty was danisHthirsty....which always made me think of Tak for kaffe!!. Now, I see where I didn't before.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Decar on February 13, 2021, 12:04:45 PM
You weren't the first... and you wont be the last  ;D
Unless Dan updates his screenname.
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on February 13, 2021, 12:07:18 PM
Dan was thirty-something for 10 years... But now he should be Danisforty!

About being thirsty, who knows?  ;)
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on February 13, 2021, 12:11:31 PM
Regarding the crazy world of meeples at Meeplesource.com, they are extremely cute and a bit expansive... No matter what I say those little guys deserve the trouble...  >:D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on March 17, 2021, 11:01:24 AM
hi Meepledrone,Iwant thanks you for the gift,today I have recived my adwent quiz gift ,the meeples are beautiful !!
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on March 17, 2021, 11:16:00 AM
hi Meepledrone,Iwant thanks you for the gift,today I have recived my adwent quiz gift ,the meeples are beautiful !!


You are welcome!

WOW! It took them more than three months to get there. The meeples must be very tired... Such a long walk!  :o

Have fun with them! ;D
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: davide on March 17, 2021, 09:24:34 PM
yes the meeples arrived tired because they stopped in Mexico City to eat tacos and drink lots of tequila, in fact they were all a little drunk when they arrived, ahah mille thank you I have already 'played to understand the rules
Title: Re: Carcassonne Central: Advent Quiz MMXX
Post by: Meepledrone on March 19, 2021, 07:30:17 AM
Shame on them! They should have called home before that to let you know.  ;)

The rules are somewhat crazy! Hope you had some fun. Sure the meeples did...  ;D