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Re: The Ferries - Question
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2014, 07:13:45 AM »
I did also read the CAR 6.4 and albeit it can be confusing to some, to me it also states there that the ferry is only placed if a follower is placed on a road segment of that tile.
  What makes it confusing is that the entire text is followed by one another and the error CAR 6.4 has in the numbered list of the turn order. (I.e. the first long description text says a ferry is placed only if a follower is placed but then in the numbered list it says another thing.)

Yellow, I don't see where you are finding the references I emphasized in your text.

I don't find the CAR to be in error - in either place you reference. In no case does it make the Ferry placement requirement contingent on the placement of a follower. It is indicated in the paragraph on page 135 and listed in the turn sequence on page 136 as a separate independent requirement.

Footnote 405 even points out that some RGG English rules were incorrect when they made the placement of the Ferry dependent on the placement of a follwer.
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Re: The Ferries - Question
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2014, 07:32:01 AM »
I did also read the CAR 6.4 and albeit it can be confusing to some, to me it also states there that the ferry is only placed if a follower is placed on a road segment of that tile.
  What makes it confusing is that the entire text is followed by one another and the error CAR 6.4 has in the numbered list of the turn order. (I.e. the first long description text says a ferry is placed only if a follower is placed but then in the numbered list it says another thing.)

Yellow, I don't see where you are finding the references I emphasized in your text.

I don't find the CAR to be in error - in either place you reference. In no case does it make the Ferry placement requirement contingent on the placement of a follower. It is indicated in the paragraph on page 135 and listed in the turn sequence on page 136 as a separate independent requirement.

Footnote 405 even points out that some RGG English rules were incorrect when they made the placement of the Ferry dependent on the placement of a follwer.
???

I just read footnote 405. I missed that one completely! My bad. This literally explains everything, even why the Swedish rules differ.

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Re: The Ferries - Question
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2014, 10:41:54 AM »
I think the confusion stems from the statement, "If he chooses to place a follower on a road, he or she must place the follower on one of the three or four road segments." As intended, this is an enclosed if...then statement, with the implied "then" coming after the comma. The word "then" beginning the next sentence simply indicates the next thing to come in the sequence of gameplay. 

However, I understand how the "Then" at the beginning of the next sentence looks like it could belong with the "If". I will tweak the wording for the next version of the CAR.

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Re: The Ferries - Question
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2014, 11:26:39 AM »
However, I understand how the "Then" at the beginning of the next sentence looks like it could belong with the "If". I will tweak the wording for the next version of the CAR.
Thank you!

Also, excellent way of describing it.  Would you have some programming backgroup?
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Re: The Ferries - Question
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2014, 11:32:47 AM »
However, I understand how the "Then" at the beginning of the next sentence looks like it could belong with the "If". I will tweak the wording for the next version of the CAR.
Thank you!

Also, excellent way of describing it.  Would you have some programming backgroup?

Nope, no programming background. That's just the way my mind works. Of course, for all anyone knows, my mind works that way because I'm just a software algorithm that is currently passing the Turing Test...

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Re: The Ferries - Question
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2014, 12:06:45 PM »
Nope, no programming background. That's just the way my mind works. Of course, for all anyone knows, my mind works that way because I'm just a software algorithm that is currently passing the Turing Test...
Who told you that you passed?

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Re: The Ferries - Question
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2014, 01:07:26 PM »
Nope, no programming background. That's just the way my mind works. Of course, for all anyone knows, my mind works that way because I'm just a software algorithm that is currently passing the Turing Test...
Who told you that you passed?

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Re: The Ferries - Question
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2014, 01:01:08 PM »
Clarification of rules - Email with HiG - 05 05 2014 - Reply #2

The player, who places the tile, also puts a ferry on the lake. It doesn't matter if a follower is placed on a road, or as a farmer or if no follower is placed on that tile.


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