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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2021, 02:39:22 AM »
It looks like every tile in the Jubilee box has alternative art work to the typical base game.  If alternative art is sufficient to increment a version, this would be Carcassonne 3  :o :o :o :o

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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2021, 05:23:43 AM »
It looks like every tile in the Jubilee box has alternative art work to the typical base game.  If alternative art is sufficient to increment a version, this would be Carcassonne 3  :o :o :o :o
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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2021, 08:47:48 AM »
It looks like every tile in the Jubilee box has alternative art work to the typical base game.  If alternative art is sufficient to increment a version, this would be Carcassonne 3  :o :o :o :o
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Indeed, I think that he has sparked the debate about the following topic. If the change is more of a change in quantity of the amount of buildings in a city or other eye-candy, rather than the quality, then does it qualify as a full iteration? If it's not really different, does simply more count as a new version? -  :pink-meeple:

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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2021, 08:56:48 AM »
The cropped city edges are a sneak peek of C3...  >:D
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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #34 on: March 08, 2021, 09:18:08 AM »
Well, given that the Peasant Revolts and now 20th Jubilee both have them, you very well could be correct. -  :pink-meeple:

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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #35 on: March 08, 2021, 12:29:05 PM »
The cropped city edges are a sneak peek of C3...  >:D

It looks like every tile in the Jubilee box has alternative art work to the typical base game.  If alternative art is sufficient to increment a version, this would be Carcassonne 3  :o :o :o :o

I really do not understand why it'd be called C3...  ???

All the added flags, banners and easter eggs are for the jubilee edition only, that's a special edition design, not a new design.

So the only change that may be kept for future releases are the buildings density (and thus the chopped buildings at the tile's edge).
That's not a new design either, nothing changes, roads are the same, fields are the same, monasteries are the same, even cities are the same design, they only have an increased amount of houses, houses that still have the same design as previous releases.

Where's the "new" in copy/pasting houses on a city tile? That could eventually be C2.2 (2.1 beeing the city's lighter background), but C3 ? ? ?  :o :o :o
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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2021, 12:50:17 PM »
I agree with corinthiens13, this is not C3. It is C2.2. A C3 will have a new artist just like C2 replaced Doris Mäthaus with Anne Pätzke. When they replace Anne with someone else (and I don't just me an overzealous tile editor, as seems to be the case for the Jubilee Edition), then we can start talking about C3.

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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2021, 05:28:43 PM »
Agreed. Certainly not C3.
C3 would only start with a new art style..
« Last Edit: March 08, 2021, 05:30:19 PM by tp10053 »

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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2021, 08:37:17 PM »
Well folks, I couldn't decide on which C1 River to purchase, so I just tracked them all down. I also added a few extra fan made tiles. The C1 addiction has hit hard.

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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2021, 09:43:07 PM »
Would you mind explaining each of them from left to right, please? -  :pink-meeple:

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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2021, 10:53:15 PM »
Would you mind explaining each of them from left to right, please? -  :pink-meeple:

It's river 2 expansion, river 2 from expansion 6, river 1 from big box 5 (also called river 3), original river 1, and city with a river through it +GQ11 tiles http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4874.0 :yellow-meeple:
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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #41 on: March 08, 2021, 10:59:10 PM »
Wow, amazing!

What's the one on the far right? A fan expansion?

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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #42 on: March 08, 2021, 11:01:41 PM »
Wow, amazing!

What's the one on the far right? A fan expansion?

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Yes (I listed them from left to right).

Oh, and I didn't see that the right one do also contain GQ11 tiles (river source and river with two cities).

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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2021, 11:59:46 PM »
You got them corinthiens13! There are also a few tiles mixed in on the right from "Pirate Coast" and "Fairy Tales".

http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=173
http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=50.

Allograft, both River IIs are the same mechanically. The only difference is that they come from different packages and one has a watermark while the other does not. As stated, River I and "River III" are basically the same. River III has tiles with sheep and vineyards for play with the Hills and Sheep expansion though. Here is the Wikicarpedia link for more info on the River tiles if you are interested:
https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/River_(1st_edition)

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Re: Need help deciding which "The River " to buy.
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2021, 01:32:39 AM »
Well I know about 38 fan expansions contains river tiles :D (ok some of them are from spin offs - maybe 8-9)


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