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Little Summer Quiz 2020
« on: August 11, 2020, 04:44:56 AM »
Dear all,

Here you are a tiny quiz to entertain these summer days... I will be posting a few questions you can answer during August. All your answers are welcome.

Have fun!



Question #1:

:red-meeple: places a tile that completes a small city occupied by him and another city occupied by :yellow-meeple:.



Instead of scoring his small city, :red-meeple: decides to convert it into a castle.



How many points do :red-meeple: and :yellow-meeple: score in this scenario?


Linkback: http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4749.0
« Last Edit: August 16, 2020, 03:18:23 AM by Meepledrone »
Questions about rules? Check WICA: www.wikicarpedia.com

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2020, 05:40:06 AM »
If there are no other bonuses (messages, robbers, teacher etc.), then the red player receives 6 points (the city just completed) for the castle (the watchtower is applicable for the meeples placed on the watchtower tile; the red meeple it is not placed on a particular tile) and the yellow player receives 6 points for the city (3 normal city tiles; no Coat of Arms, no siege, no cathedral, not mage, no witch, no German castle, no little building, no bathhouse).
Edit: Red player receives 0 points, because of "Placing a castle does not score you any points. Instead, you score points when a neigboring feature is completed in a later turn."
« Last Edit: August 15, 2020, 11:43:05 AM by Carcassonne93 »

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2020, 05:45:35 AM »
Well, that official rules are for Watchrowers just for basic game, so here is my suggestion

1. Yellow - 6 points
- 6 points for city
2. Red - 9
- 0 points for small city converted to castle
- 3 points for watchtover (city is converted to castle - meaple is not on watchtower anymore)
- 6 points for yellow's city


« Last Edit: August 12, 2020, 01:12:46 AM by Bumsakalaka, Reason: Updating »

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2020, 05:47:01 AM »
... (the watchtower is applicable for the meeples placed on the watchtower tile; the red meeple it is not placed on a particular tile ...

Not true, red is on watchtower tile on city, so he will get points (I hope ;D)

Only thing is, in which orders are steps, if castle is converted before gaining points from watchtower, then you are right.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2020, 05:48:47 AM by Bumsakalaka »

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2020, 06:21:33 AM »
Oooohhhh! You can see this tiny example has several parts moving...  ;D

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2020, 06:32:12 AM »
3 for red for watchtower. Then conversation of city to castle, then 6 points for yellow. Red meeples remains on castle waiting for a feature on a future turn to be completed.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2020, 07:04:24 AM by Halfling »
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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2020, 06:57:45 AM »
The carcopedia thingy says that watchtowers are scored first, then the road/city, but we shall see when we have an adjudication from MeeplerulesgeekDrone

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2020, 07:04:17 AM »
Ha ha ha!

My lips are sealed for the time being... And my fingers tied. ;)

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2020, 07:05:00 AM »
Amended my earlier answer.

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2020, 09:27:03 AM »
My guess:

 :red-meeple: 3 points
 :yellow-meeple: 6 points

1. Red completes city, and scores watchtower = 3 roads around. (it is no necessary scoring a feature to score watchtowers [WICA]).
Despite red meeple decides put a castle instead of score 4 points for the mini-city, he does not score yellow castle because is the same turn [WICA ref HiG rules].
BTW, http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Bridges,_Castles_and_Bazaars#cite_note-13 is not very clear to me: "This reference to "a later turn" should be interpreted as a later round"
If HiG rules explicitly said "later turn", why should we interpret later turn as "round"?

2. Yellow scores city = 6 points

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2020, 10:22:30 PM »
 :red-meeple: = 9
 :yellow-meeple: = 6

 :red-meeple: When I follow the 'Scoring During Turn Sequence'.
- First you have the watchtower that you count. 3 surrounding roads around the watchtower, 3 points.
- Then you have the converted city to castle that takes 6 points from  :yellow-meeple:.

 :yellow-meeple: Yellow only scores his city.

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I change my answer. By better reading the rules of the game. I discovered that when you place the castle, you have to wait a turn before you can score. This means that the city of yellow cannot be scored by red.
 :red-meeple: - score only the watchtower: 3 points
 :yellow-meeple: - Yellow scores only his city. 6 points
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« Last Edit: August 20, 2020, 09:08:51 AM by Windekind »

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2020, 01:19:00 AM »
I updated my answer and here is reason:
1. When scoring small city, player can choose, if small city will score 4 points or small city is converted to castle and get 0 points.
2. When scoring city or road with watchtower and meeple is on tile with watchtower, then watchtower is scored first.

Steps for rules 1+2 together:
1. If finishing small city with watchtower - score watchtower first - red gets 3 points for road tiles arround watchtower
2. Red convert small city to castle - ret gets 0 points
3. City with yellow meeple is finished - yelow gets 6 points

Rules for Watchtowers send scoring of watchtower before scoring of cities (and converting city to castle is in scoring phase of city).

And this is another questionable part:
4. City arround castle was finished, but castle was not yet established in that time - so castle rule is not applying in this turn
« Last Edit: August 12, 2020, 01:32:13 AM by Bumsakalaka »

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2020, 08:34:04 AM »
So how are you doing my friends?

These four tiles seem to entail more than meets the eye...  O0
« Last Edit: August 12, 2020, 08:39:11 AM by Meepledrone »

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2020, 08:54:23 AM »
So how are you doing my friends?

These four tiles seem to entail more than meets the eye...  O0

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Re: Little Summer Quiz
« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2020, 03:37:01 AM »
You seem relaxed, so here you are another question, this time involving scoring tiles. Why not?  ;)

Note: You can enlarge the image by clicking on it.



Question #2:

:yellow-meeple: has just placed the tile highlighted in yellow completing several features. Can you help :yellow-meeple: and  :red-meeple: score their features according to the active scoring tiles?



« Last Edit: August 13, 2020, 03:40:23 AM by Meepledrone »


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