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« Reply #375 on: December 16, 2020, 08:09:30 PM »
Is this pigsty considered by tollhouses?

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« Reply #376 on: December 16, 2020, 08:10:41 PM »
Is this garden considered by tollhouses?

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« Reply #377 on: December 17, 2020, 12:55:16 AM »
Is this pigsty considered by tollhouses?
Yes. There is not defined distance between item and road ;-)

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« Reply #378 on: December 17, 2020, 12:56:10 AM »
Is this garden considered by tollhouses?
Similar to Pigsty. I will count it to tollhouse

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« Reply #379 on: December 17, 2020, 01:15:16 PM »
But the garden is blocked by houses.

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« Reply #380 on: December 17, 2020, 01:47:19 PM »
Same problem here.

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« Reply #381 on: December 18, 2020, 02:08:18 PM »
It could be done a guide on WikiCarpedia, that would can say which sheds, gardens, highwaymen... applies to a certain road from a certain tile.

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« Reply #382 on: December 18, 2020, 03:27:33 PM »
[246] Is this pigsty considered by tollhouses?



[246.] I would say yes. There is no written rule about this. The principle I'm applying is that there is nothing blocking the line of sight between the pigsty and the road.



[247.a] Is this garden considered by tollhouses?



[247.b] Same problem here.



[247.a+247.b] In these cases I would say no. The garden seems to be detached from the road. The village is blocking the sight of line form the road to the garden ... If there was a road at the other end of the tile between the village and the edge of the tile, the garden would be certainly on the other road segment.

In any case I sent a question to HiG about these cases. I'll keep you posted about their answer.
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« Reply #383 on: December 22, 2020, 05:19:28 PM »
A meeple placed on a bridge that is placed on a watchtower tile should receive the watchtower bonus when the road with the bridge will be completed?

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« Reply #384 on: December 22, 2020, 08:59:33 PM »
A meeple placed on a bridge that is placed on a watchtower tile should receive the watchtower bonus when the road with the bridge will be completed?

I would say no since the bridge is not physically connected to the watchtower.

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« Reply #385 on: December 22, 2020, 10:27:59 PM »
A meeple placed on a bridge that is placed on a watchtower tile should receive the watchtower bonus when the road with the bridge will be completed?
You can read on WICA the answer: ‘The Watchtowers: A watchtower scoring for neighboring tiles with road segments will also consider tiles with a bridge’
The anwer is YES

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Re: Questions
« Reply #386 on: December 22, 2020, 11:16:43 PM »
A meeple placed on a bridge that is placed on a watchtower tile should receive the watchtower bonus when the road with the bridge will be completed?
You can read on WICA the answer: ‘The Watchtowers: A watchtower scoring for neighboring tiles with road segments will also consider tiles with a bridge’
The anwer is YES

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I think you're misinterpreting WICA.

The question here is:

I have a meeple on a bridge, a watchtower is under that bridge. When the road is scored, will my meeple on the bridge get the watchtower bonus?

The quote from WICA
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The Watchtowers: A watchtower scoring for neighboring tiles with road segments will also consider tiles with a bridge
means:
I have a meeple scoring a watchtower (so the meeple is on a city or road segment on a watchtower tile, not on a bridge), the watchtower gives points for neighboring tiles with road segment, if there's a neighboring tile with a bridge, it is counted as a neighboring tile with a road segment when scoring the watchtower.


But we still do not have the answer to our question. Another clue on WICA would be:
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Scoring bonuses and actions affecting locally printed roads on a tile by proximity (the feature must be on the road) or connectivity (the feature must be connected to the road) will not affect bridges passing over the tile automatically
Watchtowers are not mentioned there, but I think I'd apply this.

Meepledrone, what do you think? If that's correct, then maybe it'd be useful to add watchtowers to the list of bonus considered by this note  ;)
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Re: Questions
« Reply #387 on: December 22, 2020, 11:43:50 PM »
A meeple placed on a bridge that is placed on a watchtower tile should receive the watchtower bonus when the road with the bridge will be completed?
You can read on WICA the answer: ‘The Watchtowers: A watchtower scoring for neighboring tiles with road segments will also consider tiles with a bridge’
The anwer is YES

PD: Read WICA ;)

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« Last Edit: December 22, 2020, 11:45:41 PM by Vital Pluymers »

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« Reply #388 on: December 22, 2020, 11:45:48 PM »
A meeple placed on a bridge that is placed on a watchtower tile should receive the watchtower bonus when the road with the bridge will be completed?
You can read on WICA the answer: ‘The Watchtowers: A watchtower scoring for neighboring tiles with road segments will also consider tiles with a bridge’
The anwer is YES

PD: Read WICA ;)


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I think you're misinterpreting WICA.

The question here is:

I have a meeple on a bridge, a watchtower is under that bridge. When the road is scored, will my meeple on the bridge get the watchtower bonus?

The quote from WICA
Quote
The Watchtowers: A watchtower scoring for neighboring tiles with road segments will also consider tiles with a bridge
means:
I have a meeple scoring a watchtower (so the meeple is on a city or road segment on a watchtower tile, not on a bridge), the watchtower gives points for neighboring tiles with road segment, if there's a neighboring tile with a bridge, it is counted as a neighboring tile with a road segment when scoring the watchtower.


But we still do not have the answer to our question. Another clue on WICA would be:
Quote
Scoring bonuses and actions affecting locally printed roads on a tile by proximity (the feature must be on the road) or connectivity (the feature must be connected to the road) will not affect bridges passing over the tile automatically
Watchtowers are not mentioned there, but I think I'd apply this.

Meepledrone, what do you think? If that's correct, then maybe it'd be useful to add watchtowers to the list of bonus considered by this note  ;)
Yes, I know that is not exacly the answer of your question but, I don't understand your doubt. For scoring a watchtower you must to be ON the tile. A bridge ON the watchtower tile= you are ON the tile = you score the watchtower. It' the same like little buildings... You are ON the tile to score the bonus... SAME
I think there's no doubt...

 Scoring bonuses of printed roads is another thing very different... You must to be connected to the road... It's not the case...



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« Reply #389 on: December 22, 2020, 11:57:00 PM »
A meeple placed on a bridge that is placed on a watchtower tile should receive the watchtower bonus when the road with the bridge will be completed?
You can read on WICA the answer: ‘The Watchtowers: A watchtower scoring for neighboring tiles with road segments will also consider tiles with a bridge’
The anwer is YES

PD: Read WICA ;)


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I think you're misinterpreting WICA.

The question here is:

I have a meeple on a bridge, a watchtower is under that bridge. When the road is scored, will my meeple on the bridge get the watchtower bonus?

The quote from WICA
Quote
The Watchtowers: A watchtower scoring for neighboring tiles with road segments will also consider tiles with a bridge
means:
I have a meeple scoring a watchtower (so the meeple is on a city or road segment on a watchtower tile, not on a bridge), the watchtower gives points for neighboring tiles with road segment, if there's a neighboring tile with a bridge, it is counted as a neighboring tile with a road segment when scoring the watchtower.


But we still do not have the answer to our question. Another clue on WICA would be:
Quote
Scoring bonuses and actions affecting locally printed roads on a tile by proximity (the feature must be on the road) or connectivity (the feature must be connected to the road) will not affect bridges passing over the tile automatically
Watchtowers are not mentioned there, but I think I'd apply this.

Meepledrone, what do you think? If that's correct, then maybe it'd be useful to add watchtowers to the list of bonus considered by this note  ;)
Yes, I know that is not exacly the answer of your question but, I don't understand your doubt. For scoring a watchtower you must to be ON the tile. A bridge ON the watchtower tile= you are ON the tile = you score the watchtower. It' the same like little buildings... You are ON the tile to score the bonus... SAME
I think there's no doubt...

 Scoring bonuses of printed roads is another thing very different... You must to be connected to the road... It's not the case...



Enviado desde St. Meeple Hospital

The rules for Watchtowers state:
When a completed road or a city contains a tile which features a watchtower, and there is a meeple on the feature (city, road) on that tile, the watchtower is scored first. The completed road or city is scored afterwards. [1] [2]

This does not apply to farmers. Farmers do not trigger scoring for watchtowers.


So, although it feels odd to me since all the other features are physically connected to the Watchtower, I think you are right after all. That connectivity is not required by the rules. And a bridge on a tile can be considered as a road on the tile.
So, I agree with Dr. Meeple, I think the answer is indeed 'yes'.


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