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Re: WikiCarpedia update
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2020, 05:57:43 AM »
Hi all,

I have referenced all the questions of the Advent Calendar Quiz 2019 from the WICA Quizzes page, so you can directly access any question by number or expansions included. They are grouped in their own section for easier access.

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Quizzes#Advent_Calendar_Quiz_2019

Feel free to test yourself or your friends  O0 

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Re: WikiCarpedia update
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2020, 09:17:33 AM »
Hi all,

I just came across this post by Kettlefish:

http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=3384.msg58360#msg58360

So after reading...

In the BigBox6 we remembered HiG to put the Abbot into the first row, but forgot to put the Abbot also in the second row (with the flying machines). The Abbot can only land onto a monastery/cloister and onto a garden (CAR footnote 385, from 03/2015).

...I just updated the WICA Abbot page to reflect this comment. So no open issue anymore about why the abbot could not be a flier as per the Order of Play in Big Box 6.

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Abbot

Hallelujah!!!  O0

PS: I was wondering why this last week a third of the WICA visitors consulted the Abbot page... Is it that exciting? Are the rules such a crap? If anyone has a clue, please let us know.  ;)
« Last Edit: January 02, 2020, 02:20:28 AM by Meepledrone »

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Re: WikiCarpedia update
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2020, 05:42:15 AM »
Hello dear development team:

I was wondering if there was a tile reference section available on the website ? I have a feeling I saw one once but I can't seem to find it back.

For CI or CII, I think it would help, it was available on the CAR to maybe make it easier to implement.


Bonus point:

Also a stupid question I was wondering: If we play with expansion dragons and expansion hills and sheep, what if dragon lands on a tile with a sheep painted like on River III for example ? If there is action gather flock, should we score point for the sheep ? That would seem counterintuitive since it should be eaten, but poor sheep is just painted on tile. I don't think it was ever discussed.
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Re: WikiCarpedia update
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2020, 06:22:03 AM »
Hi totor66,

It is something that I started working on, but it is a little clumsy at the moment, and hasn't been updated for about a year.

meepledrone and I were discussing how we should develop it further, mainly in terms of whether it was possible/sensible to code it so that you could select individual sets of features from across some, or all, of the different expansions - such as "show me all tiles with cloisters, or trade tokens" - rather than just by individual expansions. This is something we know we have to get back to.
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Re: WikiCarpedia update
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2020, 09:56:04 AM »
My internal discussion regarding goes like this:

The current Expansion Selector falls short as we need:

1. The base game should be an additional option
2. Each expansion should allow you to select its tiles in full or by groups (normally associated to a primary feature). For example:
     * I&C (18):
         a) Inns (6)
         b) Cathedrals (2)
         c) Rest (10)
      * T&B (24):
         a) Trade Goods (20)
         b) Rest (4)
      ...
      * H&S (18)
         a) Hills (8)
         b) Vineyards (8)
         c) Rest (2)
3. It is also necessary a second level of filtering related to secondary features available in many tiles: pennants/coat of arms, monasteries, C1 farmhouses, C2 gardens, C2 highwaymen, C2 sheds (various types), C2 farmhouses, C2 water towers,...
4. There are primary features that work as secondary (tie-in) features in some other expansions: pig-herds/pigsties, volcanoes, inns,...

So I have to make up my mind about how the selector has to be organized to avoid redundancies and also if it should be compatible (and add-on) or a separate one of the existing one...

Any comments are welcome...  ;) 

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Re: WikiCarpedia update
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2020, 04:02:37 PM »
Hi all,

WikiCarpedia (WICA) was updated to include the most recent additions to Carcassonne from Essen 2019:

* The Spiel 19 tile (along with the previous Spiel tiles)

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Spiel_Promos

* The Tollkeepers:

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Tollkeepers

* The new Carcassonne Maps rules and all the Map-Chips rules

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps

Notes:

For the time being, both the German and English rules in PDF format available on Cundco.de contain several mistakes: mistranslations and mismatches between both languages, missing rules in English, errors in images in both versions,... A total delight!

The corresponding WICA pages provide a reviewed version of the text and corrects those images with errors, The text was reviewed in order to provide an align set of rules using the German version as a guideline, when possible, in case of mismatch.
 
I also sent HiG a 7-page document with comments covering the mistakes I found and a few clarification questions. As soon as they reply and/or provide updated rules on Cundco, I will update the Carcassonne Maps and Map-Chips pages accordingly.

Cheers!

Hi all,

I had three interactions already with HiG and I just reported two final typos and some comments on the Selling Wine action for Carcassonne  Maps - France.

You may have noticed that the Carcassonne Maps rules on Cundco.de were updated several times as a result of this process on Jan 14th 2020, Jan 23rd 2020 and Jan 24th 2020. Hope the final version is released this week.

The process has covered typos, wording issues and several major issues such as:
* Inconsistencies between the German and the English rules:
   - Same actions assigned to different phases
   - Discrepancies in the scoring rules 
   - Missing sentences and paragraphs in the English rules
* Error in some example images

As a result:
* Some clarifications only present in the German rules have been also included in the English rules.
* The paragraph describing Large Cities has been restored.
* The Map-Chip placement rules have been revised (France, Benelux, Iberian Peninsula and Germany).
* The action to sell wine has been placed in the same phase in both languages (France).
* The action to get meeples back from the Isle of Man has been corrected (British Isles).
* The scoring of treats collected has been reviewed and aligned (Iberian Peninsula).
* The meeple upgrade action has been placed in the same phase in both languages (Germany).
* The updated rules use "coat of arms" instead of "emblem," so the English rules by HiG are closer to ZMG.
* The ambiguous use of "town" to refer to small town and city segments on the border is removed.

You'll find all these updates already in WICA.

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Carcassonne_Maps

Cheers!

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Re: WikiCarpedia update
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2020, 12:32:16 AM »
Hi all,

I just moved this topic to the "Official Rules" board and made it sticky so it appears at the top section.

I also created another sticky topic called "WikiCarpedia: request corrections or submit suggestions here" so you can find a centralized place for your suggestions and requests for WICA. Your feedback and comments are also welcome. Here is the link just in case:

http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4489.0

Thank you wolnic for suggesting this after a conversation with cicerunner and thank you everyone for helping us improve WICA.

Cheers!

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Re: WikiCarpedia update
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2020, 04:57:05 AM »
The Ferries for C2 has been updated to clarify the rules involving the placement and repositioning of ferries. The ZMG rules are confusing at times so the version incorporates some additional information found in the German BB6 rules.

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Ferries

An additional footnote in C1 has been added:

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Ferries_(1st_edition)#cite_note-2

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Re: WikiCarpedia update
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2020, 08:56:06 AM »
Hi all,

The Toolkeepers page has been updated to correct some issues with the scoring examples I notified HiG on January 9th 2020 (more detailed here).

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/The_Tollkeepers

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Re: WikiCarpedia update
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2020, 09:37:00 AM »
Hi again,

I just added page "Selected Rules Variants" in the "Others" section on the WICA home page:

http://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Selected_Rules_Variants

The source material came from the CAR v7.4.

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