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Dragon Rage V2
« on: August 30, 2018, 11:02:58 PM »
The Princess & the Dragon rules (ZMG 2016) now say the Dragon moves on step 1b.

Placing a meeple happens on step 2.

Does the dragon now move BEFORE you place a meeple?

Linkback: http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=4055.0
« Last Edit: August 30, 2018, 11:04:56 PM by Dungeonmasterjoe »

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2018, 01:22:20 AM »
This has been raised with HiG - I'm not aware if it was a deliberate change or accidental.

It also affects fairy placement, which is very important when placing a tile!

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2018, 05:48:33 AM »
noooo my god! it must be necessarily a z-man error

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2018, 10:52:14 AM »
Hmm That's indeed a game changer, maybe check up the german version of the rules
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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2018, 02:19:09 AM »
The german rules are no different.

This isnt an issue created by Zman.

HiG chnaged the rules and hence why the question wqs submitted to them.

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2018, 04:50:37 AM »
So, another big difference between old and new edition...

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2018, 10:07:07 AM »
Or a big accident.  It's not clear.

It may be the section simoly needs a renumber.  Numbering sections is a new approach in Carcassonne. But they should be numbering sections in relation to every other expansion.  It's in principle a massive improvement. But prone to errors like this.

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2018, 03:03:51 AM »
Or a big accident.  It's not clear.

It may be the section simoly needs a renumber.  Numbering sections is a new approach in Carcassonne. But they should be numbering sections in relation to every other expansion.  It's in principle a massive improvement. But prone to errors like this.

+1 to this. Numbering turn elements should help to make things clear and give us something to reference, but all expansions would need to be considered in their numbering and I don't know if they'd ever do this given their "play this expansion with other expansions at your own risk" line.

I hope this is an accident as I think the dragon works well as it is, and it makes sense for any meeples to be deployed before the dragon has a chance to eat them.
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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2018, 02:23:48 AM »
I hope this is an accident as I think the dragon works well as it is, and it makes sense for any meeples to be deployed before the dragon has a chance to eat them.

Me too...
Anyway... the Car has the "Order of Play" numerad. I find it very well made and I made the Italian one starting from this and triyng to update it with the new expansions... it would be great if HIG will make something like that like "the dragon menu"

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2018, 10:24:14 PM »
So...  I played a few games with (1b)the Dragon raging BEFORE you (2)Place a meeple/(move the fairy), and I have to say:  at least in a 2 player game it makes the dragon more dangerous (and in my opinion, more fun).  Otherwise, it's really just a 50/50 you'll draw a dragon rage tile, move the fairy, and thus avoid the dragon (for the most part).  Only tried it once in a 3-player game, so I can't say for sure if this scales up OK with 3 to 6 players, but for a 2 player game, I'd surely recommend it (at least as a house rule).

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2018, 12:57:27 AM »
i tend to agree, which is why I think it was a deliberate choice by Hans im Gluck. but I doubt the die hard fans would like to see such a change. You do lose a couple of sneaky tile placement options, but is it a fairer and more risky experience?

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2018, 01:53:17 AM »
I think so. Now (in V2) he who moves the fairy last receives the fairy protection vs (V1) he who draws the Dragon Rage tile receives the fairy protection (for he'll almost always move the fairy). 

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2018, 12:04:52 PM »
Any official reply yet?

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2018, 12:06:00 AM »
HiG usually work on an annual cycle rather than a weekly one.

I'd be surprised to see any answers before 2019.

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Re: Dragon Rage V2
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2018, 01:54:06 AM »
Thank-you.


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