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Robber and Messages - Examples
« on: May 10, 2013, 07:02:43 AM »
Here are some Examples with the Robber and the Messages:

(Telephone call with HiG - Georg Wild - 10 05 2013)
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The situation:
Robber BLUE - Scoring figures: Follower RED and Woman Follower RED - The Woman Follower stands on the same space as the Robber - the follower stands on a different space.
RED scores points for a road (3 points) and for a city (6 points)

Each feature scores separated. RED decided with which of his/her scoring figures is moving on the scoring board. BLUE receives only robber-points for the first moving of scoring points from the scoring figure which stands on the same space as the Robber - here it is the Woman Follower.

That means follows:

First Woman Follower scores 3 points for the road. After that the Follower scores 6 points for the city. Then the Robber robs a half of the points from the Woman Follower- 2 Points.

First Follower scores 3 points for the road. After that the Woman Follower scores 6 points for the city. Then the Robber robs a half of the points from the Woman Follower- 3 Points.

First Woman Follower scores 3 points for the road. After that the Woman Follower scores 6 points for the city. Then the Robber robs a half of the points for the road (the first score) from the Woman Follower- 2 Points.

First Follower scores 3 points for the road. After that the Follower scores 6 points for the city. Then the Robber robs nothing from RED because the Follower was not on the same space as the Robber.

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« Last Edit: May 10, 2013, 03:20:23 PM by kettlefish »

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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 07:36:35 AM »
First Woman Follower scores 3 points for the road. After that the Woman Follower scores 6 points for the city. Then the Robber robs a half of the points for the road (the first score) from the Woman Follower- 2 Points.

Aha! A definitive clarification on this one. Thus, the player who is getting the points (RED in this case) gets to decide what order the features are scored in, and should thus choose to score the lowest feature first so the Robber doesn't get as much. We had previously wondered if the Robber player got to choose in instances of "simultaneous" scoring of multiple features, but this is obviously not the case.

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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 08:33:37 AM »
Here are some Examples with the Robber and the Messages:

(Telephone call with HiG - Georg Wild - 10 05 2013)
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The situation:
Robber BLUE - Scoring figures: Follower GREEN and Woman Follower RED - The Woman Follower and the Follower are standing on the same space where the Robber stands - the other scoring figures from GREEN and RED are standing on different spaces.
GREEN scores points for a road (3 points) and RED scores points for a city (6 points)

The Robber is on a space occupied by more than one scoring figure  and both of them (more than one) is scoring points, the Robber chooses from which player he is “robbing” half the points.
GREEN and RED can choose which of their scoring figures is scoring the points. The Robber can only receive points from a scoring figure that stands on the same space.


That means follows:

GREEN and RED - both decided to score with their scoring figures which are standing on the same space like the Robber.
The Robber decided to rob the half of the points from the Woman Follower - 3 Points.

GREEN decided to score with the Follower and RED also like to score with the Follower .
The Robber can only rob the half of the points from the Follower from GREEN - 2 Points.
The Follower from RED is not on the same space as the Robber.

GREEN and RED - both decided to score with their scoring figures which are standing on different spaces as the Robber.
The Robber can't rob any points from Woman Follower or Follower.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2013, 03:15:38 PM by kettlefish »

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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2013, 09:47:35 AM »
Here are some Examples with the Robber and the Messages:

(Telephone call with HiG - Georg Wild - 10 05 2013)
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The situation:
Robber BLUE - Scoring figures: GREEN with Follower + Woman Follower and RED with Follower - The scoring figures from GREEN and the Follower are standing on the same space where the Robber stands - the other scoring figure from RED stands on a different space.
GREEN scores points for a road (3 points) and for a city (6 Points)
RED scores points for a road (2 points) and for a city (8 points)

Each feature scores separated. GREEN and RED can choose which of their scoring figures is scoring the points. The Robber can only receive points from a scoring figure that stands on the same space - In this case the Robber can receive points from GREEN because both scoring figures from GREEN are on the same space. The Robber is on a space occupied by more than one scoring figure  and more than one figure is scoring points, the Robber chooses from which player he is “robbing” half the points. The Robber gets all the information from the ohter players GREEN and RED that it's needed for the best result to choose which points he like to rob.

That means follows:

GREEN and RED - both decided to score with one of their scoring figure which are standing on the same space like the Robber.
GREEN scores first the road with 3 Points with his/her Woman Follower and RED scores first the road with 2 Points with his/her Follower.
The Robber decided to rob the half of the points from the Woman Follower - 2 Points, because there were only 1 Point from the Follower.

RED decided to score first with his/her Woman Follower who doesn't stand on the same space like the Robber and likes to score the road with 2 Points.
GREEN decided to score first the road with 3 Points with his/her Woman Follower and RED likes to score the second the city with 8 Points with his/her Follower.
The Robber decided to rob the half of the points from the Follower - 4 Points, because there were only 2 Points from the Woman Follower.

RED decided to score first with his/her Woman Follower who doesn't stand on the same space like the Robber and likes to score the road with 2 Points and then RED likes to score the second the city with 8 Points with his/her Woman Follower.
GREEN decided to score first the city with 6 Points with his/her Follower .
The Robber can only rob the half of the points from the Follower - 3 Points, because the Woman Follower doesn't stand on the same space.
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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2013, 12:18:04 PM »
I think I am finished now with my examples.

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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2013, 12:22:38 PM »
Do you like to know what happens if more Robbers and more Scoring Figures are on the same space?

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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2013, 12:23:41 PM »
Do you like to know what happens if more Robbers and more Scoring Figures are on the same space?

Other than my brain exploding?  ;D

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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2013, 12:26:09 PM »
I think I would dreaming all night tonight about the Robber and the Scoring figures...

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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2013, 12:35:59 PM »
I think I would dreaming all night tonight about the Robber and the Scoring figures...

And rainbow-colored examples...

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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2013, 12:45:11 PM »
I think I would dreaming all night tonight about the Robber and the Scoring figures...

And rainbow-colored examples...

We need the next colour:  :meeple: Yellow
That would be the second Robber on the same space like the Robber  :blue-meeple: and the two scoring figures from GREEN   :green-meeple: and the Follower from RED :red-meeple:
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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2013, 12:51:57 PM »
The situation:
Robbers BLUE and Yellow - Scoring figures: GREEN with Follower + Woman Follower and RED with Follower - The scoring figures from GREEN and the Follower are standing on the same space where the BLUE and the Yellow Robber stand - the other scoring figure from RED stands on a different space.
GREEN scores points for a road (3 points) and for a city (6 Points)
RED scores points for a road (2 points) and for a city (8 points)

Each feature scores separated. GREEN and RED can choose which of their scoring figures is scoring the points. The Robbers from BLUE and Yellow can only receive points from a scoring figure that stands on the same space - In this case the Robbers from BLUE and Yellow can receive points from GREEN because both Scoring Figures from GREEN are on the same space. The Robbers BLUE and Yellow are on a space occupied by more than one scoring figure  and more than one figure is scoring points, the Robbers BLUE and Yellow can choose from which player GREEN or RED they like to rob a half of the points. The Robbers BLUE and Yellow get all the information from the ohter players GREEN and RED that it's needed for the best result to choose which points they like to rob.

That means follows:

GREEN and RED - both decided to score with one of their scoring figure which are standing on the same space like the Robbers BLUE and Yellow.
GREEN scores first the road with 3 Points with his/her Woman Follower and RED scores first the road with 2 Points with his/her Follower.
The Robber decided to rob the half of the points from the Woman Follower - 2 Points, an the other Robber decided to rob only 1 Point from the Follower.
This should be interesting for Yellow if he/she is the aktive Player and can receive a message.

RED decided to score first with his/her Woman Follower who doesn't stand on the same space like the Robbers BLUE  and Yellow and likes to score the road with 2 Points.
GREEN decided to score first the road with 3 Points with his/her Woman Follower and RED likes to score the second the city with 8 Points with his/her Follower.
Both Robbers BLUE and Yellow decided to rob the half of the points from the Follower - 4 Points, because there were only 2 Points from the Woman Follower.

RED decided to score first with his/her Woman Follower who doesn't stand on the same space like the Robbers BLUE and Yellow and likes to score the road with 2 Points and then RED likes to score the second the city with 8 Points with his/her Woman Follower.
GREEN decided to score first the city with 6 Points with his/her Follower .
The Robber and also the other Robber can only rob the half of the points from the Follower - 3 Points, because the Woman Follower doesn't stand on the same space.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2013, 03:25:26 PM by kettlefish »

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Re: Robber and Messages - Examples
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2013, 03:30:34 PM »
Now I have finished the examples.

If you like to have some more - than ask.

More information you can find in the next S-CAR 6.3.

obervet03 is working on it.

« Last Edit: May 16, 2013, 01:12:12 AM by kettlefish »


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