Author Topic: What is the value/rarity of your Carcassonne collection?  (Read 9375 times)

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Commandeur
  • *
  • Posts: 5353
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Re: What is the value of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2017, 12:00:16 PM »
 :(y)

Offline SRBO

  • Chatelain
  • ******
  • Posts: 1166
  • Merit: 40
  • The Robber Dragon King
    • View Profile
Re: What is the value of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2017, 11:17:56 PM »
Maybe it would be better to determine a rarity of an item rather than its cost?  The recommended price and rarity are usually a good way of determining an item's worth.
But this is something we can do?

But how would we determine it?
some kind of formula?

Offline SRBO

  • Chatelain
  • ******
  • Posts: 1166
  • Merit: 40
  • The Robber Dragon King
    • View Profile
Re: What is the value of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2017, 11:53:33 PM »
What determines the rarity?

- Out of print? yes/no
- year of release, the more earlier, the more higher the rarity
- multiple editions, first edition is more rare then before
- big expansion/mini expansion
- printed by HiG or someone else.
- amount of releases (impossible to determine)

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Commandeur
  • *
  • Posts: 5353
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Re: What is the value of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #33 on: February 06, 2017, 12:05:58 AM »
So:

Offline SRBO

  • Chatelain
  • ******
  • Posts: 1166
  • Merit: 40
  • The Robber Dragon King
    • View Profile
Re: What is the value of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #34 on: February 06, 2017, 12:13:13 AM »
I was trying to answer seriously. but it seems that yet again, this is all just a simple joke..

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Commandeur
  • *
  • Posts: 5353
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Re: What is the value of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #35 on: February 06, 2017, 12:26:02 AM »
I was quite serious: A formula like that can be used to determine a possible cost.  The only issue is if one of the factors is wrong costs may vary from $70-billion to $0.07, but we can no doubt factor that into the error-bars.

Offline danisthirty

  • (well, 39 actually)
  • Administrator
  • Chatelain Grand Officier
  • *
  • Posts: 6446
  • Merit: 239
  • "First to 4 points wins?"
    • View Profile
Re: What is the value of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #36 on: February 06, 2017, 12:35:52 AM »
If we're trying to be serious about estimating actual monetary worth then I think condition needs to be a factor too as "mint (in shrink-wrap)" would appeal to a potential buyer much more than "used". Whether there are levels in between this, I don't know. Maybe. But most of the spin-offs I own are still in shrink-wrap so would hopefully be considered more valuable than they would be if I'd opened them and punched tiles etc. Everything being present in terms of components should be required the minimum standard.
Heroically snatching defeat from the jaws of victory since 2018

Offline SRBO

  • Chatelain
  • ******
  • Posts: 1166
  • Merit: 40
  • The Robber Dragon King
    • View Profile
Re: What is the value of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #37 on: February 06, 2017, 12:45:47 AM »
Then I apoligize for my previous post.

We can start with a rarity value of 100.
and eliminate value points, by some factors..

Out of print: yes = 0, no = -10 points
Age of expansion: year of release - release of carcassonne (example: die Katharer 2004 - 2000 = -4 points of rarity.  Goldmines: 2012 -2000 = -12 points)
and so on..

This goes kind of OK. But we need to think of a lot of factors,
mostly, what makes the corn circle 1 be more rare then carcassonne itself?


Offline danisthirty

  • (well, 39 actually)
  • Administrator
  • Chatelain Grand Officier
  • *
  • Posts: 6446
  • Merit: 239
  • "First to 4 points wins?"
    • View Profile
Re: What is the value/rarity of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #38 on: February 06, 2017, 01:45:47 AM »
Remember there are two version of CC1: one is a shrink-wrapped set of 6 tiles available via Cundco, the other is the Carcassonne box that includes it.

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Commandeur
  • *
  • Posts: 5353
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Re: What is the value/rarity of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #39 on: February 06, 2017, 01:53:24 AM »
There were 2 print-runs of the shrink-wrapped versions - the greens are different  :(y) :(y)

Offline jungleboy

  • Viscount Chevalier
  • ****
  • Posts: 3025
  • Merit: 89
  • Nine points!
    • View Profile
    • English in 10 Minutes
Re: What is the value/rarity of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #40 on: February 06, 2017, 03:05:11 AM »
Firstly, the financial value of your collection is the amount someone else is willing to pay for it.

Trying to put a fixed value on your own collection based on factors other than what someone else is willing to pay for it (i.e. the market value) seems a bit pointless to me. You can say, "I think my collection is worth $X," but if no one wants to buy it for that much, then it's not worth that. I'm sure we'd like to think that we have financially valuable collections but the truth is that the value of all of our collections is far less than we actually paid for them.

To take this further, you'd have to determine the resale value of second-hand items based on condition. Unless your collection is still in shrink wrap, we are talking about non-new items which are sold far less frequently and for less. Game components are not like old coins or old baseball cards or some other types of collectables where condition is important but 'newness' doesn't really exist. 

Take the Cathars as an example using sale history on the BGG marketplace. There have been 142 sales and 131 of these (92%) were in new condition. Similarly, the Tunnels is 80/85 sales (94%) in new condition. The different currencies and the small sample size of the various non-new conditions mean that price comparison cannot be done accurately, but the takeaway for me is that people aren't that interested in buying non-new versions of even these rare expansions. Or perhaps precisely because they're rare, people fear fraud and only want new versions for which authenticity can be confirmed. Basically, there is not much market demand for your Carcassonne collection.

At the end of the day, our collections are extremely valuable to us personally mostly for sentimental reasons. This does not translate into re-sale value, which is the financial value. The actual dollar amount doesn't really mean anything to me since I won't sell my collection. But if I had to take a wild guess, I would be surprised if anyone would pay much more than €100 for my essentially complete Carcassonne 1 collection.

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Commandeur
  • *
  • Posts: 5353
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Re: What is the value/rarity of your Carcassonne collection?
« Reply #41 on: February 06, 2017, 03:11:53 AM »
Having said this - I actually paid more for an open/used copy of Cathars, just so I didn't have to open the sealed copy I had  :(y) :(y)


Share via delicious Share via digg Share via facebook Share via furl Share via linkedin Share via myspace Share via reddit Share via stumble Share via technorati Share via twitter

  Subject / Started by Replies / Views Last post
xx
Catapult Rarity

Started by Ry4Christ

7 Replies
2011 Views
Last post January 28, 2017, 08:07:37 AM
by dirk2112
xx
Calculating the value of your Carcassonne Collection

Started by asp204

34 Replies
2590 Views
Last post September 14, 2018, 01:48:56 PM
by Willem
xx
FS - Instant Carcassonne Collection

Started by CKorfmann

18 Replies
7867 Views
Last post August 25, 2013, 10:32:58 AM
by Paul
xx
Carcassonne Collection Overview (*.doc-file) Need Help for Translation

Started by BigBoss

4 Replies
1099 Views
Last post September 22, 2017, 12:12:17 PM
by Willem
xx
Keep track of your Carcassonne collection in your forum profile

Started by Scott

16 Replies
6083 Views
Last post October 24, 2013, 12:10:08 AM
by wicke