Author Topic: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)  (Read 5708 times)

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Officier
  • *
  • Posts: 5327
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« on: February 27, 2016, 04:03:23 AM »
There is an old playground law (here in Britain anyway), that goes something like this:
Quote
First's the worst,
Second's the best,
Third's the one with the hairiest chest.

Such laws are hard to deny! Thus I struck upon an idea for a mini-tournament.



Put simply: In a 3-player game of Carcassonne, could the 'best' player manipulate the game in order to score the second highest number of points?

I think there's some interesting strategic ideas to be pondered.  Mainly:
  • How do you score enough points to not come last, but prevent other players from helping you score too many points?
  • Is it better to get a head start then hold back, or aim for second place throughout the game

For me, such a competition is about taking part and having fun.  What better way of celebrating competition than not coming first?

Format
At the moment I'm looking for 9-players, which will be randomly split into 3 groups [A,B,C] to comprise a first round.
The players in each Group will schedule 3 games to be played with all 3 players.  Each game will compose of different expansions (TBD).
A running total of score will be kept for the round. After all three games are played each group will have a Best (2nd), Worst (1st) and Hairiest (3rd) player.

After all the games are played there will be a final play-off round to determine who is the 'Best of the Best', the 'Worst of the Worst' and the 'Hairiest of the Hairiest' and other humorous titles.  I've got my eye on 'Best of the Hairiest'  but I suspect the competition to be tight.

Example
Code: [Select]
             
             Game 1          Game 2       Game 3    Total      Rank
Player 1     120              76           100       196     Hairiest
Player 2      56             135            65       256     Best
Player 3     100              86            71       257     Worst

The Best of the Group would be Player 2, The Worst: Player 3 and the Hairiest: Player 1. 

Prizes
There's nothing like a small-motivator when taking part. I'm not very good at surprises, so here's some gifts.  The prizes will be given to at the group stages.  Everyone who takes part will get a special commemorative STBT Tile, plus:
  • Second Place: STBT podium tile + a custom Victory meeple (Grey/Blue)
  • Third Place: A Custom Hairy Chested Meeple (choice of Grey/Blue)
  • First Place:

There will be some spot prizes to be determined too.

When does it Start?
We need enough interested parties.  Don't forget The Last Man Standing, Dream Team Games & Princess and Dragon Tournaments are still running.  I doubt this this mini-tournament will start until one of these is finished.  Please make sure to prioritize your existing games over new ones.

Other Considerations
Please only put your name down if you can easily schedule your games to play.  3-player games are notoriously difficult to schedule.  Though I said grouping will be random, I suspect some timezone manipulation to take place to make scheduling easier  :(y)  If there's more than 9 players, I'll consider some other rankings.

As always, open to suggestions and please let me know if you have any questions.

Who is Playing
1.Mr Numbers - Latvia  - UTC +2
2.Chuck - Germany - UTC +1
3.Merlin_89 - Poland - UTC +1
4.Decar - UK - UTC +0
5.Rosco - UK - UTC +0
6.Leven - Hungary - UTC +1
7.Danisthirty -UK - UTC +0
8.Valheru - Belgium - UTC +1
9.jma03 - Spain - UTC +1

Linkback: http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=2486.0
« Last Edit: February 28, 2016, 08:57:28 AM by Decar »

Offline MrNumbers

  • Global Moderator
  • Duke Chevalier
  • *
  • Posts: 1828
  • Merit: 91
    • View Profile
    • Carcassonne Latvia
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2016, 04:33:20 AM »
I am in! Interesting idea from strategic point of view! :)
While reading the post, I thought that scoring would be different: I imagined that for finishing 2nd you receive 3pts, for 1st - 2pts, and for 3rd - 1pts, and then after 3 games you have a sum of these points.
In your variant we will have to keep in mind (or in parallel opened Excel spreadsheet) our previous scores (also opponents scores) in order to understand strategy for the next game (and during the game).
"I never lose. Either I win or I learn." (Nelson Mandela)

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Officier
  • *
  • Posts: 5327
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2016, 05:35:47 AM »
That's right. We'll need to be careful with expansions and the score deviation. But we have lots of stats from tournaments to tweek this.  The problem I foresaw with allocating points was after winning two games, it's almost impossible to purposely lose to earn 2nd place.  I think we'd need to play a lot more 3-player games to achieve deviation.

That's the idea anyway. 

Great to have you aboard too Mr Numbers!

Offline Chuck

  • Nobleman
  • ******
  • Posts: 138
  • Merit: 3
  • I haven't updated my profile yet!
    • View Profile
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2016, 06:41:06 AM »
Count me in!!! (y) :-)

Offline Merlin_89

  • Nobleman
  • ******
  • Posts: 135
  • Merit: 10
    • View Profile
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2016, 08:54:39 AM »
It sounds fun!  :(y)  I'm in!

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Officier
  • *
  • Posts: 5327
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2016, 09:46:24 AM »
First three players already - Great Stuff :)

Offline Rosco

  • Duke Chevalier
  • *
  • Posts: 1546
  • Merit: 38
  • Racing, and playing hard!
    • View Profile
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2016, 09:58:52 AM »
That sounds interesting.  I am in
Just lay the damn tile!

Offline Leven

  • Viscount
  • ****
  • Posts: 608
  • Merit: 38
    • View Profile
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2016, 11:23:11 AM »
So am I.  :(y)

Decar: are you in?

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Officier
  • *
  • Posts: 5327
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2016, 11:24:06 AM »
That would make 6 - Yes, I'm in :)  :(y) :(y)

Offline danisthirty

  • (well, 39 actually)
  • Administrator
  • Chatelain Grand Officier
  • *
  • Posts: 6424
  • Merit: 238
  • "First to 4 points wins?"
    • View Profile
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2016, 12:27:06 PM »
Yes please! :(y)
Heroically snatching defeat from the jaws of victory since 2018

Offline Valheru

  • Marquis
  • ***
  • Posts: 417
  • Merit: 19
  • More tiles, less rules!
    • View Profile
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2016, 05:23:41 PM »
Count me in as well. I predict a lot of brainfarts.
"In his house at R'lyeh, dead Cthulhu waits dreaming..."

Offline jma03

  • Count
  • **
  • Posts: 308
  • Merit: 6
    • View Profile
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2016, 12:47:52 AM »
Why not?? I am holidays  i go
 :yellow-meeple:
When you lose, do not look at what you lost, but what's left to win ..

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Officier
  • *
  • Posts: 5327
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2016, 02:01:33 AM »
Wow!  That makes 9 players!

I'll leave this open a little longer just in case we get 18 or 27 players  :@

Offline Hounk

  • Baron
  • *****
  • Posts: 965
  • Merit: 15
  • I haven't updated my profile yet!
    • View Profile
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2016, 03:22:04 AM »
I am in! Interesting idea from strategic point of view! :)
While reading the post, I thought that scoring would be different: I imagined that for finishing 2nd you receive 3pts, for 1st - 2pts, and for 3rd - 1pts, and then after 3 games you have a sum of these points.
Can you confirm that, Decar? Regarding the term "first's the worst", I would assume 3rd place to net more points, then 1st?

However, count me in, too. :(y)

Offline Decar

  • Global Moderator
  • Chatelain Officier
  • *
  • Posts: 5327
  • Merit: 238
  • Shut up and take my money!
    • View Profile
    • tehill.net
Re: Second's The Best Tournament (STBT)
« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2016, 03:26:48 AM »
Thanks Hounk - We'll put you down for the second group

Quote
A running total of score will be kept for the round. After all three games are played each group will have a Best (2nd), Worst (1st) and Hairiest (3rd) player.

There will not be points awarded for a victory.

There's nothing stopping you winning all your games, you just won't win any prizes :p


Share via delicious Share via digg Share via facebook Share via furl Share via linkedin Share via myspace Share via reddit Share via stumble Share via technorati Share via twitter

  Subject / Started by Replies / Views Last post
xx
Tournament in a Day?

Started by danisthirty

94 Replies
12901 Views
Last post August 05, 2017, 09:38:52 AM
by thodekey
grin
Welcome Tournament

Started by Decar

11 Replies
4503 Views
Last post August 23, 2015, 09:24:51 AM
by Decar
xx
Archery tournament

Started by asparagus

1 Replies
1845 Views
Last post June 21, 2014, 07:37:52 AM
by Scott
xx
A Welcome Tournament for New Members

Started by Decar

312 Replies
51805 Views
Last post January 12, 2016, 08:07:02 AM
by franks
xx
Welcome Tournament 2016

Started by Decar

256 Replies
50718 Views
Last post January 07, 2017, 02:36:52 AM
by Adrornalin