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The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« on: April 10, 2015, 10:02:15 AM »
HiG has finished the meal plan for the Dragon.

Here is the link to the news:
http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/news/newsdetails/news/speiseplan_fuer_drachen/

and here is the new meal plan:
http://www.hans-im-glueck.de/fileadmin/data_archive/Regeln/Carc_3Erw_Drache_FAQ.pdf

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Obervet,
now you have some more new details for the CAR.

Linkback: http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?topic=1677.0
« Last Edit: April 10, 2015, 11:01:11 AM by kettlefish »

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2015, 11:15:28 AM »
I like this. The definitive guide to the dragon's snacking preferences.

I can't imagine that anyone thought that the dragon could eat landscape tiles (hmm, idea for new mechanic?), but as long as you're trying to make a complete reference, you might as well go all in.
« Last Edit: April 10, 2015, 11:17:18 AM by obervet »

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2015, 02:39:58 PM »

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Speiseplan für Drachen
Der Drache frisst Gefolgsleute. So weit so gut.
Doch mit all den Sonderfiguren aus Erweiterungen ist es manchmal schwierig nachzuvollziehen, was sonst noch auf dem Speiseplan des Drachens steht.
Die Regeln standen oft im Widerspruch zu dem normalen Menschenverstand.
Daher haben wir zusammen mit Klaus Jürgen Wrede entschieden, den Speiseplan möglichst intuitiv zu gestalten.
Die neue Devise lautet: Der Drache frisst alles aus Fleisch und Blut.
Vor der Fee hat der Drache aber nach wie vor Angst.
Gefolgsmänner in der Burg und in der (Grafen-)Stadt Carcassonne sind ebenfalls weiterhin geschützt.

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Meal Plan for the Dragon
The Dragon eats followers. So far so good.
But it is sometimes difficult to understand with all the special figures from the expansions, what's else is on the menu of the Dragon.
The rules were often in contrast with the normal common sense.
Therefore we have decided together with Klaus Jürgen Wrede that the meal plan needs a new intuitive fashion.
The new motto is: the Dragon eats everything from flesh and blood.
But the Dragon still has fear about the fairy.
Followers in the Castle and in the (Count) City of Carcassonne are also protected.

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2015, 03:31:27 AM »
Translation for the headlines

Page 1
Dragons' meal plan
Everything what the dragon eats
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Page 2
Dragon's diat plan
Everything what the dragon doesn't eat

Protection against Dragon
Figures in the following places are safe from the Dragon

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2015, 09:45:56 AM »
It's a pickle. Dragon does not eat the wagon but its 'follower' driving it. Or maybe it deatroys/eat anything that moves.

I wonder how we would feel about it destroying a Tower. :)
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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2015, 03:30:59 PM »
I can't imagine that anyone thought that the dragon could eat landscape tiles
Not a far fetched idea. Especially since HiG stated now, that the dragon is interesting in EVERYTHING with meat, not wood. Consider the pig heard tile, or the ones of Cathars & Besiegers. The Princess? ;)

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2015, 11:05:44 PM »
Wait, so the dragon eats the teacher and then the teacher is out of the game? That's a rule change right? I always thought the school was safe.

Does that mean that you have to decide which of the two school tiles the teacher sits on, or can it be eaten when the dragon is on either tile?

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2015, 01:57:20 AM »
Wait, so the dragon eats the teacher and then the teacher is out of the game? That's a rule change right? I always thought the school was safe.

Does that mean that you have to decide which of the two school tiles the teacher sits on, or can it be eaten when the dragon is on either tile?
It contradicts the rule that dragon cannot get to places which are located  on multiple tiles. Also he can now eat the mage and witch as well ? >:( It was stated that he cannot eat neutral  figures. Teacher is neutral figure and he is also in the protected area... so... I definetly don't like the new rules  :(

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2015, 02:46:07 AM »
And what about rat tokens in Plague? Flesh and blood! :D
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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2015, 02:05:12 PM »
I don't mind the flesh and blood rule if it means that phantoms can't be eaten by the dragon. Surely a phantom is a ghost and therefore has no body...  ???

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2015, 04:12:20 PM »
And what about fleas: they're mainly blood!

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2015, 06:08:03 PM »
And what about fleas: they're mainly blood!

I say we pull a War of the Worlds and have the fleas take down the dragon.

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2015, 04:42:18 AM »
And what about fleas: they're mainly blood!

I say we pull a War of the Worlds and have the fleas take down the dragon.

"If the dragon moves to at least 4 tiles that are currently occupied by active flea tokens during his movement phase, the dragon is overwhelmed and becomes infected by the plague. He is removed from the board until his equally hungry brother takes his place the next time a volcano tile is placed"

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2015, 06:11:23 AM »
Surely a phantom is a ghost and therefore has no body...  ???
The German expression is "das Gefolge" meaning "the following" and it is not stated, that this meeples are "ghosts". I think, some players consider them more as camouflage knights or "ninja soldiers", although I don't know, what the official opinion of HiG is.

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Re: The Dragons' Meal plan - What can the Dragon eat?
« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2015, 06:20:00 AM »
Surely a phantom is a ghost and therefore has no body...  ???
The German expression is "das Gefolge" meaning "the following" and it is not stated, that this meeples are "ghosts". I think, some players consider them more as camouflage knights or "ninja soldiers", although I don't know, what the official opinion of HiG is.

In my head, the fact that they were referred to as "Phantoms" and that they were transparent suggested that they were ghosts since the words in English are synonymous and regardless of whether they exist, most ghost stories and tales of people who say they've seen ghosts describe them as being able to see through them. If they're not ghosts but are simply stealthy followers then if they're stealthy enough to claim an extra feature without anyone else noticing then they ought to be able to elude the dragon too!


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