First, I'm not certain what the proposed method of recognition is. ? If I have an Order of the Meeple, how do others know it or see it? If it's contained in a sticky topic somewhere in the Forums, I am fine with that. If it is proposed as a banner or symbol or some such on public display on your profile panel adjacent to your avatar, etc. then I am not in favor of that. Any recognition there should be generic in nature. Such as the Merit system, which is generic. Or the Author banner, or Admin banner, etc. Those are generic in that they do not qualify who the best Author or Admin is, or who got the best Merits for what good work, etc. In keeping, any recognition there must be in a generic form - such as some symbol that indicates you have participated in some online play.
Second, It seems odd to lump in the weekly online games with any recognition system. Putting aside the logistics and time zone issues of putting those games together, the nature of them is more casual than league play, and so subjective in outcome and player fancy that it would seem to preclude any measure of sheer ability.
Third, The points differential requirements should be excluded or at least greatly altered. This is purely about style of play and strategy. Speaking for myself, there is a strategy of play in attempting to keep scoring completely muted. Each, or any, game is not necessarily a race to some high score. It's a struggle to score more than the other player. There are different methods for achieving this that straight point differential recognition does not take into account. Requiring a game to be won by X points in order to achieve a particular level is no less arbitrary than requiring one to be won by less than 5 say.
May I suggest a threshold for points differential? I have in mind minus 200. Such threshold would be some sort of safety net that would prevent some of our dear participants to fall into the abyss and still have a fair chance to come back and kick our arses.
But if achieving some of the higher levels requires experimenting with different tactics or styles of play in order to satisfy some of the criteria from time to time then is that really so bad? I don't think it is, hopefully you don't either.
Quote from: Jéré on February 18, 2015, 06:16:39 AMMay I suggest a threshold for points differential? I have in mind minus 200. Such threshold would be some sort of safety net that would prevent some of our dear participants to fall into the abyss and still have a fair chance to come back and kick our arses. Can you elaborate on this Jere? What is meant by a threshold of minus 200?
It simply means that one cannot go lower than -200 for the score differential (ie. Final score diff. calculated at the end of a league/tournament) . I think it is low enough... If you reach -200 then I suggest to stop counting which means you can only improve yourself in the next tournament or league. If your score differential is again negative then you stay at -200. I guess we don't need a maximum.
Quote from: Jéré on February 18, 2015, 11:49:43 AMIt simply means that one cannot go lower than -200 for the score differential (ie. Final score diff. calculated at the end of a league/tournament) . I think it is low enough... If you reach -200 then I suggest to stop counting which means you can only improve yourself in the next tournament or league. If your score differential is again negative then you stay at -200. I guess we don't need a maximum.I see, so that proposal would eliminate the upper end "goal" requirement, but require a minimum threshold which is needed to qualify, that is somewhere below zero? That could work.
Quote from: danisthirty on February 17, 2015, 09:23:41 AMBut if achieving some of the higher levels requires experimenting with different tactics or styles of play in order to satisfy some of the criteria from time to time then is that really so bad? I don't think it is, hopefully you don't either.Haha - I knew your position Dan. I knew you would suggest this That's why I suggested preemptively that requiring someone to win by say 50 points is as arbitrary as requiring someone to win by less than 5 points - neither of which is necessarily a criteria demonstrating a high level of play. If it's about altering our play style to demonstrate we have what it takes to successfully implement various tactics and play styles, we all aught to be comfortable with either scenario...and perhaps others. A straight points differential (high or low) is not necessarily a good indicator of anything.
Quote from: Carcking on February 18, 2015, 01:44:48 PMQuote from: Jéré on February 18, 2015, 11:49:43 AMIt simply means that one cannot go lower than -200 for the score differential (ie. Final score diff. calculated at the end of a league/tournament) . I think it is low enough... If you reach -200 then I suggest to stop counting which means you can only improve yourself in the next tournament or league. If your score differential is again negative then you stay at -200. I guess we don't need a maximum.I see, so that proposal would eliminate the upper end "goal" requirement, but require a minimum threshold which is needed to qualify, that is somewhere below zero? That could work.Unless I am misunderstanding you (Carcking), I don't think this is what Jéré meant. He means that your differential can't go below -200. So if your actual differential is -400, it still counts as -200. That way, you can't dig yourself so big a hole that it's impossible to climb out of. This would solve the problem of having a player start off quite poorly in a tournament or two and accumulate a massive negative points differential, whereby it would be very hard to get this back to a positive number, let alone the target numbers for red and black.
Quote from: Carcking on February 17, 2015, 08:47:37 AMSecond, It seems odd to lump in the weekly online games with any recognition system. Putting aside the logistics and time zone issues of putting those games together, the nature of them is more casual than league play, and so subjective in outcome and player fancy that it would seem to preclude any measure of sheer ability.I'm aware that this doesn't help with the time zone problem for those of us outside of Europe, and I don't really have an answer to that at the moment. I'm sure we will be able to find a solution that suits everyone though, so please don't let this be a barrier for you.
Yes as unfortunately a Sunday night game is Monday morning here and I wonder what my boss would say about me playing online during work hours.
Quote from: Andrew the Ambo on February 19, 2015, 02:41:33 AMYes as unfortunately a Sunday night game is Monday morning here and I wonder what my boss would say about me playing online during work hours. If he knew how great a game Carcassonne is, I'm sure he would be fine with it. Why don't you introduce him to it?
First, I must apologize for my outburst. I was expecting something else and got this instead it caught me by surprise.
Second, I want no record of me to be kept for this Order.
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