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Title: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: obervet on December 11, 2013, 05:33:34 PM
It's here! It's in the downloads section! Go get it!

http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=238 (http://www.carcassonnecentral.com/community/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=238)

In case you still have to decide if you want it, there are tons of new clarifications and the Besiegers are there. Plus, your satisfaction is guaranteed or I will fully refund the purchase price.

 :))
 

Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: evmillan on December 12, 2013, 02:26:15 AM
Thank you so much for your excellent work!  :(y)

It's a very nice Christmas gift
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: kettlefish on December 12, 2013, 05:03:26 AM
obervet,
thanks for the new CAR...

Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: kettlefish on December 12, 2013, 05:48:24 AM
obervet,
did you post the information about the CAR v6.4 at BGG and  at CarcF?

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CAR 6.4 - page 237:

CC
this is the short form for CarcassonneCentral, also for the game Carcassonne itself.
(Even Klaus-Juergen Wrede uses CC for Carcassonne)...
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: evmillan on December 12, 2013, 06:44:39 AM
I suggest and I use CarcC like the short form for CarcassonneCentral
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: aenima on December 12, 2013, 10:11:36 AM
yeeea!!  :(y)
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: quevy on December 12, 2013, 10:47:49 AM
 :(y) :(y) :(y)
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: Carcking on December 12, 2013, 12:58:34 PM
obervet - you have once again outdone yourself...and we are truly spoiled rotten. Awesome work! You deserve infinite Merits and I would gladly give you mine!
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: obervet on December 12, 2013, 03:21:12 PM
obervet,
did you post the information about the CAR v6.4 at BGG and  at CarcF?

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CAR 6.4 - page 237:

CC
this is the short form for CarcassonneCentral, also for the game Carcassonne itself.
(Even Klaus-Juergen Wrede uses CC for Carcassonne)...

I tried to put the CAR v.6.4 up on BGG, but the file server was down, so I'll try again. I will also put it up at CarcF -- I ran out of time last night.

I have actually always used CC as an abbreviation for Carcassonne in notes to myself too. Life would be boring if I didn't have something to add to the CAR for next time...  :D
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: kettlefish on December 12, 2013, 03:26:40 PM
I think you will get some more work to do in some months...  >:D
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: kettlefish on December 12, 2013, 03:28:43 PM
Chris,
what are you thinking about a CAR for the new series of Carcassonne Spin-off games?

The first of the new spin-off games "around the world" is Carcassonne South Sea...
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: obervet on December 13, 2013, 06:25:09 AM
I think you will get some more work to do in some months...  >:D

Ahh, once again kettlefish is leaving us sneaky little hints.  :)
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: obervet on December 13, 2013, 06:29:26 AM
Chris,
what are you thinking about a CAR for the new series of Carcassonne Spin-off games?

The first of the new spin-off games "around the world" is Carcassonne South Sea...

I think it would probably be a good idea to have a CAR for the new spin-offs, since there have obviously already been some questions.

I also think that there is no way that I'll be able to add that to my list of tasks for a little while. Maybe in a few months...
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: evmillan on December 17, 2013, 06:53:22 AM
I think that would be a nice idea put into Downloads Sections a History Version with the links to the olders CAR,  it will show us the evolution of this file and the great work that you are doing
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: Scott on December 17, 2013, 07:43:37 PM
I think it's best to have only the most recent version. The older versions are obsolete, and we don't want people referring to them when asking questions.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: wicke on December 19, 2013, 03:47:14 AM
I think it's best to have only the most recent version. The older versions are obsolete, and we don't want people referring to them when asking questions.

I agree Scott, but a Version History with dates (or at least year and month) would be nice anyway.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: kettlefish on December 19, 2013, 06:28:42 AM
I think it's best to have only the most recent version. The older versions are obsolete, and we don't want people referring to them when asking questions.

I agree Scott, but a Version History with dates (or at least year and month) would be nice anyway.
Each expansion has become a different new update from HiG.
In the CAR v6.4:
The minis 1-6: Version 2013 in combination with some parts of the BigBox4 (2012)
Princess and the Dragon: Version 2013 in combination of some parts of the BigBox3 (2010)
The Tower: BigBox1 (autumn 2006) - At HiG homepage is the old version (spring 2006) online
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: Paul on April 05, 2014, 01:52:58 AM
Request: Anyone able to convert the CAR .pdf to .doc (Microsoft Word Document)?

I have looked for a decent free converter but can't find any that works. I do not have Office 2013 which supposedly should be able to open it.

Reason: Need to truncate the document by setting the text to 5 pixels before printing.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: Scott on April 05, 2014, 12:43:49 PM
The CAR is purposely distributed in PDF format to protect against making changes.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: whaleyland on April 14, 2014, 03:56:25 PM
Heavily formatted documents such as the CAR do not translate well into .doc formats. Word hates images. Period.

So, with Sheep & Hills and The Cloisters/Monasteries/Whatever now released, when can we expect to see CAR 6.5? I've already got both expansions en route to me now.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: Paul on April 14, 2014, 04:28:27 PM
Heavily formatted documents such as the CAR do not translate well into .doc formats. Word hates images. Period.

Well, I did get my Word 2013 installed and it loaded up CAR beautifully. Everything intact. I abandoned the project, though. I just wanted to change the textsize of the entire file to 5 pixels to save paper when printing. I managed to truncate it down to 96 pages but still it's a lot of paper.

Sticking to the .pdf original, but at least now I know it's the best option.  O:-)

Note: This was meant as a one copy for personal use and certainly not to spread or share.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: rfielder on April 15, 2014, 04:34:25 AM
Well, I did get my Word 2013 installed and it loaded up CAR beautifully. Everything intact. I abandoned the project, though. I just wanted to change the textsize of the entire file to 5 pixels to save paper when printing. I managed to truncate it down to 96 pages but still it's a lot of paper.
In the For What It's Worth column, I keep mine on a table, and on my smartphone (Samsung Galaxy S3).  Not nice reading on the phone, but it can be done.  Very nice reading on the 10.1" tablet.

Have not tried it on my 7" tablet yet.  It has a lower resolution screen.  It was purchased used for $20, so I can't complain....

Tablets are getting real cheap.  A 7" with half-decent resolution should be sufficient for reading books or documents like the CAR.  They are small enough to carry with you, so you always have reading material with you.  This is above and beyond their abilities to access the internet for email, browsing, etc.

When playing Carcassonne in my dining room, I have my 10.1" Samsung Tab (free! from Rogers as part of a package) handing the scoring.  It also have the CAR loaded and ready.  It is also playing music on a Bluetooth speaker that is hidden on top of a wall unit.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: kettlefish on April 15, 2014, 09:07:47 AM
Hi whaleyland,
I told to obervet that it would come around Easter time a new mini.
He was waiting for this mini expansion. Now we need a translation of  the rules...
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: obervet on April 16, 2014, 06:42:52 AM
Now that HiG's flurry of Carcassonne activity has paused again (I think), and I have some awesome English translations of the new expansions (thanks wamboyil!), the CAR machinery is slowly cranking up again. In a couple of weeks I'll be through the heavy part of my lecture and lab schedule, so I should be able to see about getting v. 6.5 out.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: whaleyland on April 16, 2014, 09:28:31 AM
Now that HiG's flurry of Carcassonne activity has paused again (I think), and I have some awesome English translations of the new expansions (thanks wamboyil!), the CAR machinery is slowly cranking up again. In a couple of weeks I'll be through the heavy part of my lecture and lab schedule, so I should be able to see about getting v. 6.5 out.
Excellent...  >:D
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: AlbinoAsian on April 17, 2014, 09:44:16 AM
Great work... It will definitely help me get my head around sheep and hills before I obtain a copy
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: coyote on April 17, 2014, 04:42:29 PM
Hey -
Was reading this just now, and ran across something in The Phantom -

The text reads:
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After placing a tile, the player may deploy the phantom to it as a second follower (on a
second feature).368 369 Thus, in one turn the player may deploy two followers370 371 372 373 to two different features of the tile he or she just placed.374 375 376 When the phantom follower is returned to the player's supply, it may be deployed again in the same way in a later turn.

However, Footnote #369 reads:
Quote
A Phantom can also be played to areas such as the Wheel of Fortune or a tower - the Phantom is not restricted to placement on the tile that was just placed. Note, however, the prohibition on double use of magic portals and flier symbols below. (11/2013)

So which one's right? I don't have the Phantom, so I haven't been playing with it either way. :)
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: whaleyland on April 17, 2014, 07:38:10 PM
Hey -
Was reading this just now, and ran across something in The Phantom -

The text reads:
Quote
After placing a tile, the player may deploy the phantom to it as a second follower (on a
second feature).368 369 Thus, in one turn the player may deploy two followers370 371 372 373 to two different features of the tile he or she just placed.374 375 376 When the phantom follower is returned to the player's supply, it may be deployed again in the same way in a later turn.

However, Footnote #369 reads:
Quote
A Phantom can also be played to areas such as the Wheel of Fortune or a tower - the Phantom is not restricted to placement on the tile that was just placed. Note, however, the prohibition on double use of magic portals and flier symbols below. (11/2013)

So which one's right? I don't have the Phantom, so I haven't been playing with it either way. :)
Both, but the wording is a bit wonky. Basically, the Phantom is placed like a normal follower. Period. A player may place it after placing a follower (or can just place it as a follower) and it can only go on a feature on the just-placed tile. However, the City and the Wheel of Fortune are always places that Followers can be placed, so they are also allowed.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: Fritz_Spinne on April 17, 2014, 10:40:08 PM
In all cases where you can place a follower outside the tile (City, Wheel, tower) you can use the phantom, too. You cannot use features like magic gate or flyer for follower and phantom - only one follower or phantom per tile.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: whaleyland on April 17, 2014, 10:47:41 PM
I was under the impression that the entire point of the Phantom was so that players could claim two features on a single tile. Also, the Magic Portal, when used normally, can allow two followers on a single tile.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: Fritz_Spinne on April 17, 2014, 10:57:58 PM
You're right - you can use a follower and phantom on a single tile, but it has to be on different features (city / street / field). And you can not use the magic portal or flyer twice. I only tried to add something to your post, not to dissent.
My probably bad use of the english auxiliary verbs may have counteracted that.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: Carcking on April 18, 2014, 02:48:40 AM
...only one follower or phantom per tile.

I think you probably meant "per feature."
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: Fritz_Spinne on April 18, 2014, 02:56:02 AM
...only one follower or phantom per tile.

I think you probably meant "per feature."

Yes - I'll try to explain it the other way: You can use a feature like magic portal and flyer on one tile only once, not twice with follower and phantom.
Title: Re: New Complete Annotated Rules v. 6.4
Post by: coyote on April 19, 2014, 07:30:47 PM
Both, but the wording is a bit wonky. Basically, the Phantom is placed like a normal follower. Period. A player may place it after placing a follower (or can just place it as a follower) and it can only go on a feature on the just-placed tile. However, the City and the Wheel of Fortune are always places that Followers can be placed, so they are also allowed.
AH! Okay, that explains it! I have the count, but we've never played it, and we don't have Wheel, so I didn't know about eiher of those situations. :)

Thanks!
-Mike