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Title: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Kirk Sellman on September 11, 2020, 06:11:14 PM
Hello,

Do the Swan 47x47mm sleeves come in thin and thicker (premium)? I just received the thin sleeves, and they do seem slimmer than I hoped.

Thank you,

Kirk
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on September 12, 2020, 12:51:55 AM
Hi Kirk,

The sleeves for Carcassonne tiles are in the thin category. There are no thick 47mm x 47mm sleeves.

They are a protective film as you can see.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: DrMeeple on September 12, 2020, 02:57:22 AM
The result once sheathed is very good. And the protection is amazing. Even if they are thin they work better than you think.  :D
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Kirk Sellman on September 12, 2020, 08:02:08 AM
I agree that any protection is better than none. I'm just a little surprised at how thin they are. Now, the decision is which version do I use them on, C1 or C2, since I don't have enough for both?

Thanks, Meepledrone and DrMeeple.

Kirk
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on September 12, 2020, 10:10:56 AM
How many additional pack of sleeves would you need? I found a place that has some left.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Kirk Sellman on September 12, 2020, 10:38:00 AM
At least 3, maybe as many as 6.

Kirk
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Drodo on September 12, 2020, 05:27:40 PM
How many additional pack of sleeves would you need? I found a place that has some left.

Are you talking about that Malaysia site? Im. Still lookikg for some
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on September 12, 2020, 05:47:36 PM
Swan Panasia is out of stock of sleeves for Carcassonne tiles for the time being.

How many sleeve packs were you looking for, Drodo?
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Drodo on September 12, 2020, 11:11:12 PM
For my whole C1 collection. I think I need around 400 sleeves for it.

I also have a full C2 collection which would require around 400 more but I care mostly about the C1 collection, since that's the one difficult to replace and also the one that gets played the most. Someone linked me to some Malaysia shop that has some but they dont ship to Mexico.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Kirk Sellman on September 13, 2020, 06:55:09 AM
Do they deliver to the US?

Thanks,

Kirk
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on September 13, 2020, 02:34:04 PM
It seems so...

I don't know if Drodo was looking at the same site...

https://meeples.com.my/store/item_details.php?iid=1276 (https://meeples.com.my/store/item_details.php?iid=1276)

I selected 99 packs, tried an address in USA and it didn't show error message. Followed the purchase process until right before payment. It is necessary to order at least 6 packs to get the shipping method working...

Haven't tried this site first. If anyone can tell about it, I would appreciate it.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Drodo on September 14, 2020, 03:52:05 AM
It seems so...

I don't know if Drodo was looking at the same site...

https://meeples.com.my/store/item_details.php?iid=1276 (https://meeples.com.my/store/item_details.php?iid=1276)

I selected 99 packs, tried an address in USA and it didn't show error message. Followed the purchase process until right before payment. It is necessary to order at least 6 packs to get the shipping method working...

Haven't tried this site first. If anyone can tell about it, I would appreciate it.

Yes that's the malaysia site. When I try to check out, the only available shipping method is a small one that it says only works within Malaysia. No international choices.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on September 14, 2020, 04:07:59 AM
Did you try to contact customer support?
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Murphy013 on September 14, 2020, 04:51:22 AM
Maybe Malaysia is a sleeping Carcassonne giant and keep all the sleeves. ????????
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Kirk Sellman on September 15, 2020, 07:01:02 AM
Just heard from them. They aren’t allowed to ship them out of Malaysia.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on September 15, 2020, 09:01:54 AM
No way! I can't believe it :o
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Murphy013 on September 17, 2020, 07:19:01 AM
Just heard from them. They aren’t allowed to ship them out of Malaysia.


Malaysia the world biggest Carcassonne nation in the world keep all their sleeves
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: tp10053 on September 18, 2020, 02:36:58 PM
Malaysia is the biggest Carcassonne nation?
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on September 19, 2020, 04:38:16 AM
It rather seems that Malaysia has plenty of sleeves in stock since there is not enough domestic demand and they don't sell abroad.  :o
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Murphy013 on September 20, 2020, 01:51:17 AM
Malaysia will not ship outside Malaysia during Corona.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Kirk Sellman on September 20, 2020, 07:43:29 PM
This is the response I received from Swan about their Premium sleeves:

'We have no plan for a premium sleeve of 47x47 because the premium material would be too thick and wide, that would increase the distance between the two tiles, that's why we only have the standard type of 47x47 sleeve.'

I thought they already produced premium sleeves, but he probably means that they're not going to produce any more.

Kirk
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: DrMeeple on September 28, 2020, 10:43:47 AM
In your answer they don't say that they will not produce more sleeves... In any case, it is rare that they aren't yet available ... It seems that the sleeves of the tiles will disappear ... If it were true, It would be very sad news....
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Kirk Sellman on October 01, 2020, 10:16:13 PM
It looks like the standard sleeves are 40 microns thick, and the premium sleeves are 90 microns thick. I have two packs of standard sleeves, and I think the premium would be what I'm looking for. Maybe after this virus goes away, the supply will be better.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: MeisterAbababa on October 03, 2020, 09:45:15 AM
Hi,

I have one question about the sleeves' avaibility. Malasyan page aside, are they made sporadically, or can we consider them discontinued? On a Google search I found this blog post (in Spanish: https://carcassonneblog.wordpress.com/tag/carcassonne-sleeves/), saying that they were not made anymore, and it is from 2016, but I have seen some on some shops (not anymore) around last year. I think its weird they'd stop making them, considering they are good for C2, too.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on October 03, 2020, 11:09:00 AM
It seems the blog page was updated recently without altering the initial posting date.

I didn't recall this comment from earlier visits, so I tried to access an earlier version with web.archive.org and you can see this comment wasn't there as of April 2017:

http://web.archive.org/web/20170402073437/https://carcassonneblog.wordpress.com/tag/carcassonne-sleeves/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20170402073437/https://carcassonneblog.wordpress.com/tag/carcassonne-sleeves/)

This is the paragraph you are mentioning:

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Lamentablemente en estos momentos no quedan unidades en stock tanto en la web de Swan Panasia como en Smiling Monster Games Shop, siendo el resto de alternativas que tienen sobres a la venta bastante costosas. Esperemos que esta situación sea meramente transitoria y pronto vuelvan a poner nuevas unidades a la venta.

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Unfortunately they are currently out of stock on both the Swan Panasia website and the Smiling Monster Games Shop. Other available sites selling sleeves are rather too expensive. We hope that this is just a temporary issue and they are back on stock soon.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: MeisterAbababa on October 03, 2020, 12:08:33 PM
It seems the blog page was updated recently without altering the initial posting date.

I didn't recall this comment from earlier visits, so I tried to access an earlier version with web.archive.org and you can see this comment wasn't there as of April 2017:

http://web.archive.org/web/20170402073437/https://carcassonneblog.wordpress.com/tag/carcassonne-sleeves/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20170402073437/https://carcassonneblog.wordpress.com/tag/carcassonne-sleeves/)

This is the paragraph you are mentioning:

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Lamentablemente en estos momentos no quedan unidades en stock tanto en la web de Swan Panasia como en Smiling Monster Games Shop, siendo el resto de alternativas que tienen sobres a la venta bastante costosas. Esperemos que esta situación sea meramente transitoria y pronto vuelvan a poner nuevas unidades a la venta.

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Unfortunately they are currently out of stock on both the Swan Panasia website and the Smiling Monster Games Shop. Other available sites selling sleeves are rather too expensive. We hope that this is just a temporary issue and they are back on stock soon.

Oh, thanks for the info! I hadnt noticed it was an edit... That means is more likely they have been discontinued :( . On the other hand, despite being square and supposedly fit to the milimeter, even after cutting the extra part, they had empty spaces (and only on two sides, weird), so they wasn't a perfect option. Definetly I'm not using the bag anymore, but I think there may exist a better way to preserve our tiles, we just haven't found it yet.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Kirk Sellman on October 03, 2020, 01:02:22 PM
I haven't taken the time to prove this, but I wonder if there's a way to shrink protection onto the tiles and cut anything extra off around the edges. This would take hours to sleeve every tile, but would be worth it.

Kirk
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: DrMeeple on October 05, 2020, 10:52:01 PM
Perhaps a legal issue... Because they still produced other sleeves for other cards... Maybe asmodee will produce sleeves??? HiG??


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Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on November 13, 2020, 09:22:08 AM
I just saw this on Cundco.de, Swan Panasia card sleeves for Paleo (the collaborative game HiG released recently):

https://cundco.de/en/detail/index/sArticle/360/sCategory/36 (https://cundco.de/en/detail/index/sArticle/360/sCategory/36)

I wonder if HiG signed any type of agreement with Swan Panasia and there will be some sleeves for Carcassonne tiles on Cundco.de too  ;D
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: DrMeeple on November 13, 2020, 09:55:11 AM
Surely. In fact I'm surprised they didn't sell them before. There's still hope!  :))
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Kirk Sellman on November 22, 2020, 08:17:49 AM
The sleeves are back in stock at Board Game Extras.
https://www.bgextras.co.uk/swan-card-sleeves-47x47-160pcs-selfadhesive-i1074.htm
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: totor66 on November 28, 2020, 06:23:40 AM
quick silly question, once sleeved, I guess cards don't fit into tuckboxes right ? Tight ones I mean
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: corinthiens13 on November 28, 2020, 01:33:45 PM
quick silly question, once sleeved, I guess cards don't fit into tuckboxes right ? Tight ones I mean

I tried with cundco's cardboard small boxes and I could fit them in without too much difficulty  ;)
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: corinthiens13 on November 28, 2020, 01:42:39 PM
Oh, and I don't know if some of you did already try it, but I sleeved cutcassonne's tiles together with blank tiles by removing the blank tile's top layer, it worked perfectly. And that way you don't even have to put glue or tape on the back of cutcassonne  :)
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on November 28, 2020, 04:26:15 PM
Looks good!

Did you try to play a game to see how smoothly it goes?
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: corinthiens13 on November 28, 2020, 09:48:10 PM
Looks good!

Did you try to play a game to see how smoothly it goes?

It goes perfectly when mixed with with other sleeved tiles.

Of course, when mixed with non sleeved tiles, it's difficult to align them correctly.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Linksux on December 07, 2020, 02:28:37 AM
Oh, and I don't know if some of you did already try it, but I sleeved cutcassonne's tiles together with blank tiles by removing the blank tile's top layer, it worked perfectly. And that way you don't even have to put glue or tape on the back of cutcassonne  :)
Nice!
Thanks for the tip !


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Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on December 17, 2020, 01:05:13 PM
I just checked and it seems there is some stock left on Smiling Monster (171 packs as of today):

https://www.smiling-monster.com/Card-Sleeves/Standard-Card-Sleeves/Swan-card-protection-sleeves-47mm-x-47mm-160-pcs-thin::69.html (https://www.smiling-monster.com/Card-Sleeves/Standard-Card-Sleeves/Swan-card-protection-sleeves-47mm-x-47mm-160-pcs-thin::69.html)

Have fun!
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: totor66 on December 18, 2020, 02:33:53 AM
ahhh still strugling

I made all my tuckboxes perfect fit and it took me a lot of hours to put all together, I am scared that it won't fit anymore

and on top of it, it adds a looooooooooot of hours to sleeve all tiles for CI, CII + spin off (2000 + maybe ? didn't count exactly
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Willem on December 18, 2020, 02:43:48 AM
I bought a few packs of these a few years ago. Back then through BoardgameExtras.
I've only sleeved the rarest of tiles which I'll not play with. So Russian Promo's (got printed ones to play), Spiel tiles, signed tiles, that kinda stuff.

I don't wanna think about sleeving everything!
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: DrMeeple on December 18, 2020, 02:46:26 AM
I bought a few packs of these a few years ago. Back then through BoardgameExtras.
I've only sleeved the rarest of tiles which I'll not play with. So Russian Promo's (got printed ones to play), Spiel tiles, signed tiles, that kinda stuff.

I don't wanna think about sleeving everything!

haha you should try it! It's very funny!  >:D
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Decar on December 18, 2020, 02:50:31 AM
I've ordered from smiling-monster before (not sleeves), they're a very reliable shop in my experience.

I had a long conversation with the owner (?) at the UKGE in 2018, because they had a lot of old £10-notes that needed exchanging, as they had been removed from circulation and they were worried about how to go about it.

I just use small ziplocks for those 'special' tiles.  At least until I can invest in a humidity controlled storage cabinet  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Drodo on December 18, 2020, 06:22:05 AM
How much does shipping to Germany cost?
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Decar on December 18, 2020, 06:35:50 AM
Can you try to add some to your basket and find out?
It looks straightforward:

https://www.smiling-monster.com/Kartenhuellen/Standard-Huellen/Kartenhuellen-47mm-x-47mm-160-Huellen-duenn::69.html

Looks like it's free over 20€, smiling-monster is based in Germany, so I'd expect reasonable rates.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Drodo on December 18, 2020, 07:47:57 AM
How many sleeves do I need for both C1 and C2 collections? Including all of the promo mini expansions.

Are 1600 enough?
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Decar on December 18, 2020, 08:07:33 AM
Do you need sleeves for the Russian tiles?
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on December 18, 2020, 09:37:46 AM
How many sleeves do I need for both C1 and C2 collections? Including all of the promo mini expansions.

Are 1600 enough?

Check this WICA page and select the  editions, sets and expansions you want to sleeve and you'll get the total number of tiles...  ;D

https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Tile_Reference (https://wikicarpedia.com/index.php/Tile_Reference)

Remember to check all tile edge configurations and features...
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Drodo on December 18, 2020, 03:13:39 PM
Looks like 900 should be more than enough for a complete C1 and C2 collection.

I ordered 1600, gonna sleeve the Star Wars and old Hunters & Gatherers too since they are played often. Perhaps Ark of the Covenant too considering the bad quality of the tiles. Everything else should be fine without any sleeves.

Is it possible to sleeve double tiles like Castles in Germany's? Using 2.
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on December 18, 2020, 03:45:47 PM
DrMeeple did it for Halflings and MeepleFan for double tiles (if I remember correctly)... So everything is feasible...

A tutorial on sleeving simple tiles by MeepleFan is available here in Spanish (you can use Chrome to translate the page on the fly to your language of choice):
https://carcassonneblog.wordpress.com/tag/sobres-carcassonne/ (https://carcassonneblog.wordpress.com/tag/sobres-carcassonne/)

Still waiting for DrMeeple to post about his tricks about sleeving he promised some time ago. >:D
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: DrMeeple on December 19, 2020, 04:39:10 AM
I don’t forget that! I will post it before this year ends.. I promise!  :yellow-meeple:
Title: Re: Swan 47x47mm sleeves for Carcassonne tiles
Post by: Meepledrone on December 19, 2020, 04:58:46 AM
With nice pictures!  >:D